[Q] Questions after rooting. - Galaxy Ace S5830 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.

Hi,
Okay, after you rooted, you cannot just delete an item right away, i think you need to set permission first before you can delete a system file.
so make sure you set permission first so you can do changes in your system file.
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Nightwing-1 said:
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
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when you flashed a different rom, your old rom will be fully deleted, however make sure you follow the correct procedure in CWM, and also for your apps that you don't want to be deleted everytime you flash a new rom, kindly make a backup.. Titanium Backup app is free in google store and very usefull.. and regarding deleting or editing a system file, you need to set permission to do that, you can try to use Es file manager for that.
hope i helped.

jhay0017 said:
Okay, after you rooted, you cannot just delete an item right away, i think you need to set permission first before you can delete a system file.
so make sure you set permission first so you can do changes in your system file.
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when you flashed a different rom, your old rom will be fully deleted, however make sure you follow the correct procedure in CWM, and also for your apps that you don't want to be deleted everytime you flash a new rom, kindly make a backup.. Titanium Backup app is free in google store and very usefull.. and regarding deleting or editing a system file, you need to set permission to do that, you can try to use Es file manager for that.
hope i helped.
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Is not necessary to change permissions in /system/app folder, the only you need is to mount /system partition as R/W to delete or modify whatever you want, use root explorer (e.g.) to do it, because /system apps have the 644 permissions (THE ROOT USER IS ALLOWED TO EDIT THIS FILES)
And yes titanum back up is a great tool, but all GB apps won't work properly in CM roms so sometimes to restore apps using TB is really painful, you can find at Google Playstore similar apps as ThinkFree even the same app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tf.thinkdroid.amlite so be careful with TB
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Nightwing-1 said:
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
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1. If you remove .apk file you'll remove the app, but not data files
2. I've already explained it

Thanks for your quick replies. I see I still have a lot of learning to do.
@Viper: Can you post a link to your reference on how to remove the datafiles?
I think I'll wait with flashing a ROM, until I completely know what I'm doing.
Rob.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick replies. I see I still have a lot of learning to do.
@Viper: Can you post a link to your reference on how to remove the datafiles?
I think I'll wait with flashing a ROM, until I completely know what I'm doing.
Rob.
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...?
There is no reference, just instal TB and do it deleting data (TB can also clean your cache and dalvik-cache partition even backup your apks and data) or use a filebrowser as root explorer go to /system/app, mount it as R/W and delete what you want, be careful with apps as SystemUI, Statusbar, Phone, Contacts, etc
well you could have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542749

Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
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yes a CWM backup is prefered mostly as it backups everythin including your system apps n data.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
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CWM can backup your whole rom with all you user data(includes all your apps!), etc.
TB can only backup apps
Now you could think: When CWM backups the rom and my data + apps why I need TB?
The answer is that you can only restore the full rom in CWM. You can restore single apps.
In TB you can restore single apps.
You can use any file explorer with root permissions to delete system apps. Idk, but I like Root Explorer, because of its easy usage
Sent from my GT-S5830 using xda app-developers app

Thanks for the clear answers.
I'll install Titanium Backup too and start experimenting.

Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for the clear answers.
I'll install Titanium Backup too and start experimenting.
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there is a separate button for thanx dude! n we all need it!

Mandark52 said:
there is a separate button for thanx dude! n we all need it!
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why do you need thanks? you'll be better... you'll be worse than now?...
I can't belive it :laugh:

Viper The Ripper said:
why do you need thanks? you'll be better... you'll be worse than now?...
I can't belive it :laugh:
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well thats my peraonal problem. It encourages me. N I believe it!!

Since u r totally new I would like u to use a slightly different and easier to understand approach.
Its similar to what others hav said but i feel a lot easier for newbies.
Steps.
1. Install ES File Explorer.
2. Go to system/apps.
3. From options click on TOOLS
4. Then click Root Explorer or Root manager Option.
5. You see the option to uninstall system app. Click on it. Long press the app u wana delete. And uninstall.
To reatore apps from previous ROM.
1. Create a backup of that ROM using CWM.
2. Download Nandroid Manager on your new ROM.
3. Click on the Backup File displayed.
4. Restore the apps you want.
I hope this was usefull.
Sent from my GT-S5830 using xda app-developers app

After all of your suggestions, I did some research about deleting system apps and freeing up memory. On a Dutch forum, someone said that if you delete system apps, it doesn't give you space for new apps, because this memory space is reserved.
Can anyone tell me if that is correct, or does the answer form Omega_Warrior really free up memory?
Now I've come across a new item: Bootanimations.
I have found a lot of bootanimations on XDA. Problem is, my Phone has .qmg files, instead of .zip files. Some forums suggest that you can rename the Original files to 'bootsamsung.qmg'.bak' and replace them with the .zip files. Other forums insist that you need the .qmg format, in order to make the bootanimation work.
Which of the comments is true?

Nightwing-1 said:
After all of your suggestions, I did some research about deleting system apps and freeing up memory. On a Dutch forum, someone said that if you delete system apps, it doesn't give you space for new apps, because this memory space is reserved.
Can anyone tell me if that is correct, or does the answer form Omega_Warrior really free up memory?
Now I've come across a new item: Bootanimations.
I have found a lot of bootanimations on XDA. Problem is, my Phone has .qmg files, instead of .zip files. Some forums suggest that you can rename the Original files to 'bootsamsung.qmg'.bak' and replace them with the .zip files. Other forums insist that you need the .qmg format, in order to make the bootanimation work.
Which of the comments is true?
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Yes if u delete a system App u do free up some space but that space cannot be used by u unless u install an app as a system app... But it still frees up space, reduces background process and in some cases affects performance in positive way.
Regarding Bootanimations .zip files do the trick. Simply download the zip file u want as bootanimation. Rename it as bootanimation.zip. go to system/media and paste it there. Reboot n it's done... This method has been tried by me. N it works. I hav no idea abt the.qmg files u tlkin abt...
Sent from my Xperia GT-S5830

omega_warrior said:
Yes if u delete a system App u do free up some space but that space cannot be used by u unless u install an app as a system app... But it still frees up space, reduces background process and in some cases affects performance in positive way.
Regarding Bootanimations .zip files do the trick. Simply download the zip file u want as bootanimation. Rename it as bootanimation.zip. go to system/media and paste it there. Reboot n it's done... This method has been tried by me. N it works. I hav no idea abt the.qmg files u tlkin abt...
Sent from my Xperia GT-S5830
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Well you can transform useful apps as Operamini or Quickpic as system app using Titanium backup e.g. so you can use this free space as you elwant...
About Bootanimations you need to flash a CUSTOM KERNEL (CF-ROOT, BATTERY EXTENDER,...) to enable this feature and the correct path, if you don't flash it you can't use this path and bootanimation.zips
Be careful with system apps or follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542749

New ROM
OFF TOPIC
Instead of starting a new topic, I decided to post my question in this topic. Just incase someone else is following the same path as I am.
Back on topic:
I found this ROM review and I'm thinking about installing it to my Galaxy Ace.
Here is the link to the review: http://www.technobuzzing.com/sgs-ii-v11-2-samsung-galaxy-ace-custom-rom/
These are the steps I intend to follow:
Create a backup of all my personal files.
Use Titanium backup and CWM to backup the Phone itself.
Next steps:
Boot into CWM
Choose 'wipe data/factory reset'.
Choose 'Wipe cache'.
Choose 'Advanced' and 'wipe dalvik cache'.
'Install zip from SD-card'.
If I left any safety precautions out, or missed a step, please tell me.
Anyone who has this ROM installed, feel free to share your comments on this ROM.
@Omega Warrior: The QMG files for the bootanimations are aparently a Samsung thing.
Thanks for any reactions.

Nightwing-1 said:
OFF TOPIC
Instead of starting a new topic, I decided to post my question in this topic. Just incase someone else is following the same path as I am.
Back on topic:
I found this ROM review and I'm thinking about installing it to my Galaxy Ace.
Here is the link to the review: http://www.technobuzzing.com/sgs-ii-v11-2-samsung-galaxy-ace-custom-rom/
These are the steps I intend to follow:
Create a backup of all my personal files.
Use Titanium backup and CWM to backup the Phone itself.
Next steps:
Boot into CWM
Choose 'wipe data/factory reset'.
Choose 'Wipe cache'.
Choose 'Advanced' and 'wipe dalvik cache'.
'Install zip from SD-card'.
If I left any safety precautions out, or missed a step, please tell me.
Anyone who has this ROM installed, feel free to share your comments on this ROM.
@Omega Warrior: The QMG files for the bootanimations are aparently a Samsung thing.
Thanks for any reactions.
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You are in the correct way
The most important a CWM backup just in case something goes wrong and you'll need to go back so perfect!
I used this rom, IMO all SpaceCaker works are amazing. He is one of the best themer we have
About QMG files, yes only stock or mainly stock roms have QMG files as bootanimation. Custom roms always or almost always have bootanimations in .zip files, this is allowed due to the custom kernels that support this kind of tweaks, so custom rom = custom bootanimation.zip (mainly)
About the link provided:
You can find the last updated version here in xda , even you can read changelog, install instructions, patches etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453165

So you're saying "go ahead and good luck"?
Because if it goes wrong... my backup Phone is a Nokia 3510. The type that asks "share by sms or smoke signal?".:fingers-crossed:

Nightwing-1 said:
So you're saying "go ahead and good luck"?
Because if it goes wrong... my backup Phone is a Nokia 3510. The type that asks "share by sms or smoke signal?".:fingers-crossed:
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well I'm not forcing you xDDD, but there isn't other way to do it so if you have the GT-S5830 model, there shouldn't be problem
And yes CWM backup works fine and is the best thing you can do before flashing nothing just in case something goes wrong
So good luck and preparing the fire for smoke signals!! (joke ) XDDD

Related

How to access to Vending Database (Content Provider)

Hi guys!!
I want to know how to access to Vending Database (Content Provider), I don´t find the Uri for accessing.
Any idea?
Thanks in advance.
I'm sorry, yours is a development question and, contrary to what you might think, in this forum only half-hacks of roms are allowed and development questions should be tossed to die in Q&A.
Ok, now, seriously, I don't think google provides access to the Vending database (afaik, there's no api for market). What exactly are you trying to do?
I want to make a backup of this database for restore after wipe.
When you wipe, you don´t have a list of installed applications (installed before wipe) in "Downloads" tab. I don´t want a backup of apk´s files, I only want that market show me these the applicactions for downloads under demand.
Thanks,
MyBackup Pro do it.
tolemac said:
I want to make a backup of this database for restore after wipe.
When you wipe, you don´t have a list of installed applications (installed before wipe) in "Downloads" tab. I don´t want a backup of apk´s files, I only want that market show me these the applicactions for downloads under demand.
Thanks,
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Backup for root users (free) will do that also. It will save your APK's and also backup your market database to sd
Yes, I know to do it. I don´t want use Root permissions
My downloads always show what files I had downloaded before I wiped. I don't know why its not working for you. I just went from cyan's to a sense hero and had everything there listed.
tolemac said:
I want to make a backup of this database for restore after wipe.
When you wipe, you don´t have a list of installed applications (installed before wipe) in "Downloads" tab. I don´t want a backup of apk´s files, I only want that market show me these the applicactions for downloads under demand.
Thanks,
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Have a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3655174&postcount=44

[Q] Sampsung Fascinate OEM Apps or APK's

I know there will be someone saying that this is already posted but I have not seen as with multiple searches and extensive readings.
Can all the Apps from the SCH-I500 be posted somewhere and I mean the APK's or zipped versions on this site? With all the flashing there are a few from the original that are very good, then they are lost. Or an area to teach us how to abstract them from the ROM's we found them on or the originals. Or link's to where they can be found?
Like Desk Cradle etc. I have flashed many of the ROMs like the Froyo (Kaos), Super Clean, DJ05, DL09 the new Red recovery kernel etc. but always there was something good from the original that I can not find or wished I had back.
Also, is there a moderator on the site that can get the non Fascinate stuff out of here or move? Like Eris, Telus, I9000 we are confused enough without keeping it pure - Samsung Fascinate SCH-I500.
Thaks for any help or suggestions,
norm883
You can back your apps up with titanium back up or astro file manager
Skillz360 Reply
Skillz360 Thank you for your reply.
But Lucy please Esplain!
I have used Titanium and backed up some but as usual the wrong ones the VZW crap.
Do I just backup all that I like or would be interesed in? Then when I reload Titanium on the new ROM the apps will be there for reinstall? Also in Astro all I see are the APK's I downloaded from Market or not the OEM's. And I am rooted.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
norm883
norm883 said:
Skillz360 Thank you for your reply.
But Lucy please Esplain!
I have used Titanium and backed up some but as usual the wrong ones the VZW crap.
Do I just backup all that I like or would be interesed in? Then when I reload Titanium on the new ROM the apps will be there for reinstall? Also in Astro all I see are the APK's I downloaded from Market or not the OEM's. And I am rooted.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
norm883
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use Titanium to backup what ever apps you want and you can just use it to restore the app or apps that you want on a new rom ect.. yes when you reinstall Titanium on a new rom you can just load your app or app that you want
If you go into Rom Manager, under sonofskywalker3's section, most of the stock apps can be reinstalled from there.
Thanks
I have seen under ROM Manager but they do not have many and does anyone know where they go when you use ROM Manager or are they only temporary?
norm883
Actually as well as I'm aware, by default Titanium Backup does not backup system apks, it only makes a backup of system app data. I use Root Explorer, go into the /system/app/ folder and manually select and copy over desired apks onto the sdcard.
Look for stock deodexed ROMs, you can unzip them and get your desired apks onto your sdcard, and use Root Explorer to copy them into your /system/app/ folder.
If you need any of the system APKs let me know. I have most of them available in deodexed form.... I believe from the DJ05 leak. But should work on whatever. Just let me know which ones you need and I can send you a link for them.
norm883 said:
I have seen under ROM Manager but they do not have many and does anyone know where they go when you use ROM Manager or are they only temporary?
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they will be installed in system/app like normal when you pull them down in RM

[ZIP] Sick of losing all your installed apps/widgets when flashing a ROM? Look here!

I don't know about you, but I was sick of that.
I flash new ROMs a few times a day on my phone, losing my /data/app apps some times a day.
So I made a flashable zip that solves this problem.
This ZIP is ONLY for pushing apps into /data/app!
Right, there are a few things you need:
- The flashable zip, download it below
- Root Explorer
- WinZip
Do the following:
- Using Root Explorer, copy the apps installed in /data/app to /sdcard
- They will have names like com.***.***-1, leave them like that. DO NOT RENAME!
- Connect your phone through USB to your PC
- Copy the apps from /sdcard to your pc
- Unzip 'data_app_install.zip' and put the apps into /data/app
- Select '/META-INF' and '/data', rightclick, 'Add to archive'
- Choose .ZIP as type
- Let it zip
- Copy the new .ZIP file to your external SD
- Flash a new ROM
- Flash the new .ZIP file containing your /data/app apps
- Reboot and enjoy!
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Nice one, i use MyBackup Pro
ionhide said:
Nice one, i use MyBackup Pro
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Titanium backup free edition
peewster said:
Titanium backup free edition
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same same Works for me..
Does it keep also all the settings in the apps?
When the app settings are saved in the app itself, then yes.
When the app settings are saved somewhere else (meaning NOT in /data/app), then no.
Does that mean it should also be possible to exchange the data folder in a ROM zip and flash it directly with it?
When you know how to edit the updater-script so that it adds the /data folder to your phone aswell, then, yeah, it's possible.
I haven't found the mounting command for /data tho so I can't help you there.
my backup root
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
<3 this but is there any way how i could backup app data which are not saved in data/app?
Good zip for flash app direct in data,thanks
martan1981 said:
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
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I can explain that one for you.. You came from a stock MRXX rom, flashed a CM7 nightlies and lost your backed up data.. Because MyBackup uses 1st sd partition on stock rom, and sd-ext/mnt on CM7.. Your backup is still there after flash, you just need to move it from sd to sd-ext..
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martan1981 said:
My backup root sukcs, it did not recover any settings for me. Titanium backup is nice, but it takes too long to get the apps one by one.
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Get titanium backup pro. It has a batch restore feature. I use all the time and am very happy with it. Now I'm flash-frenzy

[Q] what is update.zip in titanium backup app..?

Hi guys..
Can someone explain to me in detail ref: Titanium Backup, what is update.zip function..what is it & what does it do..??
I read somewhere it can be used to create a zip file of your backup apps.. in your next flash you can flash the update.zip in order to restore your apps from "cwm recovery"..!!
Thanks for any help or better tips/solutions..!!
It creates an unsigned update.zip file for installing TB in recovery mode.
soumya_digi said:
It creates an unsigned update.zip file for installing TB in recovery mode.
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So is it only for installing TB..!!
"Is it possible to create a zip file with all my apps which I can restore from recovery mode"..??
It's only tb. App u flash with cwm,but do a nandroid backup and tb. can extract and restore from your nandroid.quite easy
When u make a tb.zip then use titaniumbackup.zip name,so it's easy to locate and flash.
U use this when u wipe and instal new rom.
Btw.if u extract your rom using root explorer u can modify,delete/add apps and kernel,everything to your liking,then zip it with rootexplorer and flash in cwm.then it's only a few apps u have to restore depends on how many apps u have installed.
Remember if this file doesn't exist then create it and put your 3' apps in there
DATA/app
zodiaxe66 said:
It's only tb. App u flash with cwm,but do a nandroid backup and tb. can extract and restore from your nandroid.quite easy
When u make a tb.zip then use titaniumbackup.zip name,so it's easy to locate and flash.
U use this when u wipe and instal new rom.
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Can you explain more clearly..I'm confused on what you said about make tb.zip..(how)..?
So do I make zip > use update.zip function..??
Open settings in tb. There is an option to make a "update.zip" of tb. This one u can flash from cwm,but its only needed to flash when u wipe your phone and it's only tb. App that is restored,the rest of your missing apps u restore from tb.
In tb. settings there is also an option to extract your nandroid backup(of cause u got 1) and restore apps from that.
About "root explorer". read a bit more on how to add and remove things from roms u downloaded.even though it's quite easy to do
@Zodiaxe.. Many thanks cleared up my confusion..
The update.zip is only used for tb..!!
I was hoping there would be a method whereby all my apps could be compressed in one zip file, which I can then flash in cwm to "restore" all my apps..
I hate the tiring method of restoring them manually..!!
Yeah I know what u mean.its a drag,LOL
but buy the premium its worth the money.
When u restore in premium u select the apps(as in free) but it's then 1-click restore and tb. do the rest.and a whole lot nice features comes with the premium
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Btw. I think what u are looking for is APP2ZIP try search play store.don't know if sgs‘s is supported.
Thanks mate.. Have been very helpful..!!
I will have a look at that app, many thanks again.
What exactly is an update.zip file used for? I know I had to run it when I flashed AOKP to my Droid Inc. It was in the instructions to do so, but I was not completely sure what I was doing at that exact step of the process.
Also, I have TB (Premium). I use it to back up all system data and user apps. I have never needed it to restore any data, but I am sure I will in the future. This is mainly because I flashed AOKP M5 to my Galaxy Nexus a little over 2 weeks ago and have not looked back.
My last question at the moment is this. If I wipe/clear cache, clear dalvik cache and wipe user data (factory reset) how does my TB data stay in tact exactly?
-Kris
KRJ_87 said:
What exactly is an update.zip file used for? I know I had to run it when I flashed AOKP to my Droid Inc. It was in the instructions to do so, but I was not completely sure what I was doing at that exact step of the process.
Also, I have TB (Premium). I use it to back up all system data and user apps. I have never needed it to restore any data, but I am sure I will in the future. This is mainly because I flashed AOKP M5 to my Galaxy Nexus a little over 2 weeks ago and have not looked back.
My last question at the moment is this. If I wipe/clear cache, clear dalvik cache and wipe user data (factory reset) how does my TB data stay in tact exactly?
-Kris
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This is a general explanation of update zip
There are several ways to install applications or library
files to an Android Phone . You can use Market application
to find and install or adb command line tool to install or
push the files to Android file system. These are all easy to
implement for single file but if you have several
applications or library files to install at once, it might be
better to use update zip file. The update zip file is Android
advanced system to install applications or lib files to
Android file system using recovery tool. This method is
commonly used by rom or theme developers to distribute
their package.
Hope that makes sense
Answer to your last question all data saved in TB will stay in tact..so when you flash you can restore apps & data nothing will be lost (as long as you don't format sd card)
Roots said:
This is a general explanation of update zip
There are several ways to install applications or library
files to an Android Phone . You can use Market application
to find and install or adb command line tool to install or
push the files to Android file system. These are all easy to
implement for single file but if you have several
applications or library files to install at once, it might be
better to use update zip file. The update zip file is Android
advanced system to install applications or lib files to
Android file system using recovery tool. This method is
commonly used by rom or theme developers to distribute
their package.
Hope that makes sense
Answer to your last question all data saved in TB will stay in tact..so when you flash you can restore apps & data nothing will be lost (as long as you don't format sd card)
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It definitely makes more sense now, but I am not quite there yet. Are you saying that update.zip file is just one option and that using TB would be an alternate to using update.zip file?
As far as your explanation on the TB file staying in tact, that makes sense. Thank you.
-Kris
If you go back read first few posts..
In tb the update.zip function used to restore tb only from cwm.. Or you can create an update.zip in order to restore/update something in your rom (as in your case when you installed aokp you also flashed update zip)
An update.zip is flashable file, this can be a rom, theme or apps.
there is a update.zip on your SD-card, this is your costum recovery(cwm) do not remove or rename this file
No, clearing cache or dalvik cache nor factory reset will affect TB. or it's data.
And wipe cache + dalvik is a good thing to do once in a while.
Factory reset is is done i u flash a new rom or have trouble with your phone, lag,slow or other problems
Usually this is caused by some app or settings. Then do a factory reset,if u can't find the problem
zodiaxe66 said:
An update.zip is flashable file, this can be a rom, theme or apps.
there is a update.zip on your SD-card, this is your costum recovery(cwm) do not remove or rename this file
No, clearing cache or dalvik cache nor factory reset will affect TB. or it's data.
And wipe cache + dalvik is a good thing to do once in a while.
Factory reset is is done i u flash a new rom or have trouble with your phone, lag,slow or other problems
Usually this is caused by some app or settings. Then do a factory reset,if u can't find the problem
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But can update.zip file be created where all my apps are inside or compressed inside..??
So when I flash new rom can I flash that update.zip file (after renaming it) in order to restore my apps..?? "Yes I'm aware of tb batch one click restore..
No, not with TB but u can extract and restore apps from your cwm(nandroid) backups.
check out the APP2ZIP,that can do do exactly what u are looking for,make a flashable zip with your apps and settings.u can find it here on xda and in play store.
regarding on the topic
Im just newbie on android and i have intentionally delete the folder App on my system files thinking that it was just a back up file
and my android phone just stock on boot up!
I have to same android phone
rooted
is it possible to make an TB update zip containing the system app on my other android phone and
flash it on the broken one using the CWM?
No. It isn't that simple. While you could install titanium backup with the update . zip the phone still won't boot. And you need a running system to even start tb.
So you would need the Rom you were using. Flash that first and flash the tb update.zip afterwards. Then you will get a rom with tb already installed.
From there you can start to restore apps you hopefully have backed up before...
KRJ_87 said:
What exactly is an update.zip file used for? I know I had to run it when I flashed AOKP to my Droid Inc. It was in the instructions to do so, but I was not completely sure what I was doing at that exact step of the process.
Also, I have TB (Premium). I use it to back up all system data and user apps. I have never needed it to restore any data, but I am sure I will in the future. This is mainly because I flashed AOKP M5 to my Galaxy Nexus a little over 2 weeks ago and have not looked back.
My last question at the moment is this. If I wipe/clear cache, clear dalvik cache and wipe user data (factory reset) how does my TB data stay in tact exactly?
-Kris
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Yes.. It's all there as long as you don't wipe or format sd card. (tb data folder)
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Reviving this to add that last month tb added support for update.zip which holds all backups.
Theres 2 now:
1. settings > update.zip is a flashable zip with only tb
2. batch > recovery update.zip is a flashable zip with all backups
Everyone should be using one of these two methods to ensure u have the latest tb to restore from (since roms are always out of date), or to restore everything straight in recovery.

Replacing Sony's apps

I'm looking for a way to replace the system apps with their AOSP counter part.
E.g. dialer, email, contacts etc.
Does someone know if it's possible for all apps or are their any problems to be expected?
And second question, is there probably a flash able zip for this?
I'd be curious to know as well. Coming from a Nexus device I hate Sony's attempts to "improve" the basic apps like dialer and messaging. They all look like they were designed in 1998.
That should be possible....
Nebucatnetzer said:
I'm looking for a way to replace the system apps with their AOSP counter part.
E.g. dialer, email, contacts etc.
Does someone know if it's possible for all apps or are their any problems to be expected?
And second question, is there probably a flash able zip for this?
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I think at the moment there is no available zip. You need CWM for your idea - do you have your phone rooted ?
If so there should be a possiblity to create such a flashable zip , that erase the not needed apps and install the new apps...
If your phone is not rooted maybe a batch file could do the trick via ADB for you - in a first step it should block the not wanted apps and in a second step it should install the new apps.
So you need the Names of the packages / apps that should be erased and before that, you should find the AOSP-Apps that run on the Z3C.
pipspeak said:
I'd be curious to know as well. Coming from a Nexus device I hate Sony's attempts to "improve" the basic apps like dialer and messaging. They all look like they were designed in 1998.
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My favorites are
Textra for messaging
Quickpic for album
MX Player for Videos
Rhonin86 said:
I think at the moment there is no available zip. You need CWM for your idea - do you have your phone rooted ?
If so there should be a possiblity to create such a flashable zip , that erase the not needed apps and install the new apps...
If your phone is not rooted maybe a batch file could do the trick via ADB for you - in a first step it should block the not wanted apps and in a second step it should install the new apps.
So you need the Names of the packages / apps that should be erased and before that, you should find the AOSP-Apps that run on the Z3C.
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Yes it's rooted.
I would be happy too, to replace the dialer & contact apps with AOSP ones.
Regarding messaging, i'm using this one : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.slvn.mms
Collecting of required information
Hi folx,
in this post i try to get all required information to replace the not wanted SONY stuff by the desired stuff mostly AOSP.
Your phone should be rooted and CWM should be installed.
Then we have to build a fitting flashable zip file.
But to succeed we fist need to test if the wanted apps will work on our phone. (i will test for example: Dialer from CM11)
If these Apps work, then we should have a deeper look on the creating of such a flashable.zip file. I have found a lot of howtos in the web. But to be sure we should backup those SONY-Apps
Here are 2 links i would use:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-hacking-modding-fuer-lenovo-ideapad-a1/268272-how-cwm-update-zips-erstellen.html german
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721680 english here at XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2764533 this can also be useful
The updater - script within this zip-file could be adjusted to our needs. Deleting the not wanted Sony.apps from /system /app and replace them with the wanted Apps. If i find the time i could provide such a file - but i can't test it.
The simple Trick:
But you could do it more simple - you just need a root explorer (i prefer ES File Explorer). Go to the above mentioned folder /system/app or system/private. There you should find the not wanted apps. Just copy them in a backup folder on your sdcard, delete the sony apk in the system - partition, copy your desired apk in the folder, where you have deleted the Sony-apk, give the right permissions and then reboot.
If the new app fails - just delete it in the same manner as described above and copy the backupped app in the corresponding folder and check the permissions again. - reboot.
I would really appreciate posting your results and if there are any further questions.... do not hesitate - we are all here to learn and get our phone better
Cheers
Rhonin
I probably have time to test this on the weekend.
I'll let you know how it goes.
I copied over Contacts, Contacts Prvovider and the Dialer apks.
However I couldn't get them to work.
Neither the Contacts nor the Dialer app showed up in the app drawer.
Email didn't work either.
Deskclock works fine. I'd love dialler to work...

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