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[Q] Best settings for optimal battery life?

Hey,
What would be the best settings for optimal battery life?
- Brightness: I set backlight to +/- 50% in the menu. I disabled auto-backlight as I like my screen brighter generally.
- Screen lock: I set 2 minutes.
- Exchange: I have my work e-mail connected through Exchange. I just set the "Peak times" setting. I normally don't receive e-mails after work or during weekends, will that make a big difference?
- E-mail: I have (obviously) a Gmail account, however I do not use it for e-mails, I have one almost only because of the Market and other Google services. Can we disable push Gmail? I looked into the Gmail app and into Accounts and Sync and couldn't find anything, unless I missed something. I use mainly my (sigh) Hotmail account through the Hotmail app. I set it to update every hour.
- Facebook: I have initially synced my phone contacts with Facebook, but don't require update the minute a change is made. I set the refresh interval at 4 hours.
- "Always-on mobile data": Not exactly sure what this is, can anyone clarify? If that matters, I usually disable LTE as it's a battery-drainer and I don't necessarily need that much speed; HSPA+ is more than enough for me.
- Location Services: I turned everything off. I hate "checking-in" somewhere and barely use Google Maps/Navigation. I usually enable and disable when needed.
Can I change anything else to get a better battery life? I LOVE my Raider, but the battery has to be the worst I have ever experienced.
Thanks for your help!

I have the same settings but the exchange and the brightness (which is set to auto) plus location on. I get about 10 hours of use till the battery hits ~15% with 2 hours of screen time. I can't call it awful because I don't need more than that, as I charge it every night.
Unless you have a widget or an app that drains it really bad or you need more juice, I would suggest to keep the settings you like/want/need and get an extended battery.
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Sharing my settings
I usually have the following settings:
- Turn on Wifi, GPS Satellites, Mobile Network only when I need them.
- Use less widgets
- Sound: Disable Quiet ring on pickup, pocket mode, flip for speaker, vibrate feedback
- Display: Sleep 30 seconds, brightness 45% is good for me
- Account & Sync: I disabled the accounts I don't use (News, Stocks...)
- Disabled keyboard key vibration
hope it helps and apologies if any of this is abvious

Haven't thought about the keyboard feedback, I assume it'll make some sort of difference. I'll try it out.
I don't make/receive that many phone calls, so I can definitely live without the "flip for speaker" and "pocket modes".
Silly question: I've returned my phone back to stock Rogers through the RUU last night as I need to send the phone in for a faulty headphone jack (had unlocked bootloader + running RumRaider Beta 11), and I noticed the battery was significantly better today with it than when I was running RumRaider. Using the same widgets on my home screens, same accounts (Exchange, Hotmail, Facebook, etc), mostly same settings.
I even forgot to turn off LTE so it has been on all day (don't get LTE in the office, I guess it's been searching for it all the time?) and even with it on, battery was better. Can a ROM affect battery life that much? Can it have something to do with the kernel or anything like that?
I sound a bit n00b, my apologies lol I know how to unlock a bootloader, how to flash a recovery, flash a ROM, and I understand the concept of the inwards of a phone like a Raider, but I'm unsure how software can affect hardware (i.e. the battery).
Anyway, I'll tweak the settings a bit as per your recommendations guys and see how it goes from there!
(P.S.: I'll miss my Raider as of next Friday, I'll have a BB Bold 9000 w/o a data plan for 2+ weeks...)

cedrikfd said:
Haven't thought about the keyboard feedback, I assume it'll make some sort of difference. I'll try it out.
I don't make/receive that many phone calls, so I can definitely live without the "flip for speaker" and "pocket modes".
Silly question: I've returned my phone back to stock Rogers through the RUU last night as I need to send the phone in for a faulty headphone jack (had unlocked bootloader + running RumRaider Beta 11), and I noticed the battery was significantly better today with it than when I was running RumRaider. Using the same widgets on my home screens, same accounts (Exchange, Hotmail, Facebook, etc), mostly same settings.
I even forgot to turn off LTE so it has been on all day (don't get LTE in the office, I guess it's been searching for it all the time?) and even with it on, battery was better. Can a ROM affect battery life that much? Can it have something to do with the kernel or anything like that?
I sound a bit n00b, my apologies lol I know how to unlock a bootloader, how to flash a recovery, flash a ROM, and I understand the concept of the inwards of a phone like a Raider, but I'm unsure how software can affect hardware (i.e. the battery).
Anyway, I'll tweak the settings a bit as per your recommendations guys and see how it goes from there!
(P.S.: I'll miss my Raider as of next Friday, I'll have a BB Bold 9000 w/o a data plan for 2+ weeks...)
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If the phone is over clocked or the gpu is messed with, it can change your battery life for the better or worse. Not sure about RumRaider settings so can't tell you why you got bad battery life out of it.

slimslim said:
Unless you have a widget or an app that drains it really bad or you need more juice
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Any examples of stock widgets that uses a lot of battery?
I have the HTC clock w/ weather but it's disabled in Accounts and Sync + location is off, so it really is just for the actual clock. I have the music one, e-mail, calendar, SMS.

cedrikfd said:
Any examples of stock widgets that uses a lot of battery?
I have the HTC clock w/ weather but it's disabled in Accounts and Sync + location is off, so it really is just for the actual clock. I have the music one, e-mail, calendar, SMS.
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Well, the clock one would if you had it enabled with location, check weather when screen unlocked, etc. Email would be a battery abuser if you had it check for email and send it to you every time you got one.

cedrikfd said:
I'm unsure how software can affect hardware (i.e. the battery).
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it's the same thing like laptops as well... some apps are either poorly developed or they just use more processing power (or other resources like GPS, bluetooth...). and the more processing power is used, the more battery power it consumes.
you can always check the battery information under settings, and see what consumes your battery the most. (Settings > Power > Battery Use)
Mine is consumed by Screen, Wi-Fi, Cell Standby, Phone idle,...)
you can get programs to analyse it, and give you more info on apps and their battery consumption.

I found Wi-Fi consumes much less power than mobile network. When leaving the phone connected to Wi-Fi over the weekend with a few texting and moderate email internet browsing, I got 24h and still 53% remaining.
BTW I have two Google accounts synching and one voip app always running. Brightness is around 20%.
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What rom are you using
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Rum raider
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Droid 4 battery issues...unbearable.

I spent a few hours looking through other threads, but nothing seemed to quite fit my scenario.
Stock droid 4 with the latest over the air update.
I use the phone very sparingly during the day, and my battery drains very quickly...
Usually take off the charger around 8am and battery is below 20% by 2pm.
My usage is usually one or two 5 minute calls, and probably 10mins of facebook.
Is there a good smart action I could try?
I had one that turned off the 4g while the screen was off, but it made sending picture messages unbearable...
My battery use indicator blames screen, then OS, then facebook....
I feel as if it's not reporting the culprit correctly...
Any help is much appreciated.

F3M4 said:
I spent a few hours looking through other threads, but nothing seemed to quite fit my scenario.
Stock droid 4 with the latest over the air update.
I use the phone very sparingly during the day, and my battery drains very quickly...
Usually take off the charger around 8am and battery is below 20% by 2pm.
My usage is usually one or two 5 minute calls, and probably 10mins of facebook.
Is there a good smart action I could try?
I had one that turned off the 4g while the screen was off, but it made sending picture messages unbearable...
My battery use indicator blames screen, then OS, then facebook....
I feel as if it's not reporting the culprit correctly...
Any help is much appreciated.
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I've had similar issues, not sure what I did to cause them. When I first got the phone, 16hrs+ with what I would consider moderate usage was normal. I've flashed AOKP and the battery life is back to normal (on track for 15hrs today), but the stock rom is a disaster.
I'll let you know what I turn up (if anything), but I have a feeling I'll probably be wiping everything out since I actually like the stock ROM (plus no hw accel in ICS).
Edit: Also, how did you have a smart action turn 4G on/off? I was under the impression we can't control that at all, except via system menu. Is a downside to VZW's 4G...

I believe that was actually via the app Juicedefender.
even with it on i was still only getting about 8 hours...
I am semi interested in rooting/flashing a rom etc, but my last experience there was a disaster(thanks to a ****ty droid eris)

I disabled all widgets except for facebook, being that it's the only one I use...
The only non essential apps running all the time are battery circle, and facebook(widget i guess?)
I'm now charged to 100%, gonna see where these changes take me.

What are your settings as far as Brightness, Haptic Feedback, Screen Timeout, Vibration (Incoming Message/Call or End Call). Also, I recommend just using the FB app instead of the widget as I notice most of the widgets draw power even when the screen is off.
I am currently running Eclipse 1.3.7 w/ xrjxMod, Brightness all the way down, all vibration and haptic feedback is off. Since I am rooted I also used ROM Toolbox to adjust my scan interval to the minimum. I have the screen timeout to the max, but I always turn it off manually after use. I am constantly on either FB, XDA, txt messages or the occasional game/Netflix use and with the exception of watching a full episode or movie on Netflix, I am averaging about 6 to 8 hours on a full charge.

My battery is now sitting at 46%.
Since my last post I used the phone for 18mins of phone calls and nothing else.
The breakdown is 46% voice, 23% android OS, 12% display, 9% phone idle, 8% cell standby...
The brightness is as low as possible, haptic feedback is off, phone is set to vibrate(thats the only way I get calls)
All three location settings are on....Should I turn them all off? I dont know which are important...

I agree with azreal. Check your setting. Haptic feedback sucks up juice and unless you like it is more of an annoyance imo. There is an option for it in language and keyboard as well as in the screen menu for your soft keys.
Do you have your gmail setup to constantly sync? If its not needed un-check it in you accounts menu.
Are you leaving wifi on when your not in range of a remebered router?
If you are not in a strong 4g area set it to cdma only in your wifi and networks menu.
My opinion of apps to extend battery life is a negative one. Its an app that always runs to make things stop running???? Some work ok but most do not.
If all else fails I would suggest the eclipse rom for the d4. As long as you are safestrapped and follow directions properly you can't go wrong. In the case of a bootloop shut the phone off and reboot and you will come back to the recovery screen to try it again or go back to stock. Its nearly foolproof.
You may also want to do a battery stat wipe if your still having issues. Just discharge your phone completly, then fully charge wipe stats and completly discharge again then fully charge once more, and see if you notice a difference.
I get around 15-16hrs on stock and up to 22hrs on eclipse (varies with usage) by following these few things.
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I have wifi permanently off...
I have 4g almost all the time.
I use a gmail, but I cannot find a way to limit it's syncing...I still want it to check for emails, I guess just not as frequently.

F3M4 said:
I have wifi permanently off...
I have 4g almost all the time.
I use a gmail, but I cannot find a way to limit it's syncing...I still want it to check for emails, I guess just not as frequently.
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I would hazard a guess that having 4G on all the time is one of the main culprits. I leave 4G off unless I am browsing the web, forums, or something else where the extra speed is nice. I use the 4G Toggle widget from the market to turn 4G on and off. I always turn it off before hitting the power button to turn off the screen. No need for it to be sucking juice when I'm not actively using my phone.
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I just installed the toggle switch, I'm gonna give it a go.

To turn off the gmail sync go to accounts click on you tap the account. Then uncheck the sync box.
When you want to check your email go to the gmail app hit the menu and sync. Takes about 30 seconds extra but saves some battery.
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I'm always skeptical when people blame gmail sync or 4G on battery issues. When the phone was new on stock, and on ICS now, I have three gmail accounts, a yahoo account, and one Exchange account all syncing in the background + 4G on 24/7 and getting around 16hrs of battery life. This was the case for weeks. Then I started having trouble with Verizon's Backup Manager, did a factory reset, and now stock battery life is ~ 8hrs, with 4G OFF
I'm thinking at the very least, there is an issue with the stock battery information panel. My feeling is it hides battery use by the stock bloatware...

podspi said:
I'm always skeptical when people blame gmail sync or 4G on battery issues. When the phone was new on stock, and on ICS now, I have three gmail accounts, a yahoo account, and one Exchange account all syncing in the background + 4G on 24/7 and getting around 16hrs of battery life. This was the case for weeks. Then I started having trouble with Verizon's Backup Manager, did a factory reset, and now stock battery life is ~ 8hrs, with 4G OFF
I'm thinking at the very least, there is an issue with the stock battery information panel. My feeling is it hides battery use by the stock bloatware...
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I agree that there is probably more to it than just 4G or syncing. Especially where people are getting only 8 hours or so battery life. I personally have noticed definite battery savings with 4G toggled off when not in use though. I can usually still go most of the day even with it toggled on all day but with 4G off, except when I actually need it, I usually get to bed with 30% - 40% battery left as opposed to 10% - 20% left with 4G on all day.
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I would also turn all 3 locations off. No need to run the gps when not using navigation. I keep my 4G on as I use it frequently but I am going to try the toggle as well for the extra savings on battery when not netflixing/browsing.
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Yep. I'm also having big issues with my Droid 4 battery. First I thought it was the firewall. But even after uninstalling the app, the drainage is absurd. The battery drains so fast, the phone gets warm.
I don't know where to look. I read something about logcat in another thread but could't find it anymore.
My Droid 4 can work about 5 hours on one battery charge. No gps, no 4g and no wifi. If I turn on wifi, it lasts about 8 hours, so I'm suspecting that some process loops when in non WIFI mode.

If you're out of options try using an app called watchdog. It let's you see if there is an app that's draining your battery unusually fast.

Thanks for the tip. But what whatchdog should I use? There are many apps called watchdog

vmu said:
Thanks for the tip. But what whatchdog should I use? There are many apps called watchdog
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Watchdog task manager lite (free version).

I tried that this morning. Still poor battery life on stock, but watchdog doesn't flag anything. Very weird
Oh well, I would definitely recommend AOKP for anybody having battery problems.
For me today: 4 hours 55 minutes since unplug, 80% left.
Screen time on: 50 minutes (!)
That being said, I do keep my screen on pretty low. Still, you can tell I've been using it...

Watchdog couldn't help me but. My data monitor showed that motorola.services was generating a lot of data the past few days (800+ MB :O ) and responsible for the battery drainage. I blocked it with droidwall. It's better now, but sometimes it still pops up and generates data despite the fact it's blocked.
So glad that I have an unlimited internet plan or else I was really screwed

'How To Get Better Battery Life' tips and tricks

I haven't seen one of these threads yet, and I think it will benefit users of our D4 forum.
If you have any tips/tricks, feel free to add them here.
My first tip: TURN OFF 4G AT ANY TIME POSSIBLE. 4g is a battery vacuum.
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Here's the biggest....Widgets and Social Networks.
Watch your widgets (weather, news, facebook, etc..) that update/refresh. Most will allow you to adjust the refresh time. Set it high or to manual refresh.
Social Networks.....set them to refresh only. You don't need them refreshing their data in the background, just have them pull the latest down when you are actually using them (Facebook, Twitter, Google +, etc..). Set to manual refresh so that they only refresh when you are using the app. You don't need the latest status messages your friends are posting hitting your phone when it's in your pocket.
WiFi and. 3G/4G.....if you are in a location that makes your phone drop/search for signal and WiFi is available....use WiFi. The constant searching/seeking and establishing a 3G/4G network connection will kill your battery faster than having a constant 4G connection. This leaves the cellular band free for calls and all your apps that sync/pull data from the internet can happily run over the WiFi connection instead of killing your battery.

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tcrews said:
Here's the biggest....Widgets and Social Networks.
Watch your widgets (weather, news, facebook, etc..) that update/refresh. Most will allow you to adjust the refresh time. Set it high or to manual refresh.
Social Networks.....set them to refresh only. You don't need them refreshing their data in the background, just have them pull the latest down when you are actually using them (Facebook, Twitter, Google +, etc..). Set to manual refresh so that they only refresh when you are using the app. You don't need the latest status messages your friends are posting hitting your phone when it's in your pocket.
WiFi and. 3G/4G.....if you are in a location that makes your phone drop/search for signal and WiFi is available....use WiFi. The constant searching/seeking and establishing a 3G/4G network connection will kill your battery faster than having a constant 4G connection. This leaves the cellular band free for calls and all your apps that sync/pull data from the internet can happily run over the WiFi connection instead of killing your battery.
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I second this, keep your widgest, number of home screens, and social networking apps down. Phones haven't reached the point of being able to be computers quite yet. Here are some apps to keep it snappy though:
Fast Reboot (by Great Bytes Software)- same as a battery pull without having to. Clears up a lot of RAM.
Lte On/Off - with this, you can switch to 3G (CDMA) only, and have it set to automatically default to that setting in the case of you switching to airplane mode for some reason. But it does reset the app if you turn of your phone. Fast Reboot doesn't clash with this app.
App Cache Cleaner - clears out a lot of the cache you otherwise would have to go to Manage Applications to clean out.
That's all I can think of at the moment for non-rooted users. I won't go into rooted b/c this is not the right place. But here are a few battery saving settings:
GPS - have only the Google one on, it's the fastest in my experience.
Display - have it set to the lowest setting when at all possible. Only lowers color distortion in my experience.
Developer optionss - go in here and turn on the force GPU settings. This may not be the case with everyone, but it gives my phone a little more zip and makes things smoother.
Apps (this is the very bottom of the developer settings) - Adjust these to your liking. Perhaps try setting the max number of backgrounded processes to 4.

I wonder how it looks on you ...
on my droid 4 and with Jelly Bean i lost ~5,5% battery by hour no matter what i do even on airplane mode.. still aroud 5% by 1h
please can you advice how its look from your side ?

I had the same thing with my Droid 4. I finally sbf'd it, and reinstalled everything one at a time. This fixed it.
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i try SBF many time, formats, pull out sd card no matter what i do.. still lost 5,5 % battery by hour.. so max my battery keep 16-18h
(its there any possibility to move back to ICS ? )

Is there any way for the Droid to use only 2G networks? 3G/4G while idle seems to be the biggest battery drainer.

fathermocker said:
Is there any way for the Droid to use only 2G networks? 3G/4G while idle seems to be the biggest battery drainer.
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you just turn off your network data and you will still be able to run 2g

Jahoovi said:
you just turn off your network data and you will still be able to run 2g
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What I meant was if it was possible to just use 2G for Internet connections, instead of 2G+3G+4G.

a battery calibration after rooting device should help.. what it does is delete the fake information from the old/stock ROM and cleans up your battery to new life... better explained here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration...

MiLoS R2D2 said:
a battery calibration after rooting device should help.. what it does is delete the fake information from the old/stock ROM and cleans up your battery to new life... better explained here... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration...
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I have not found that to be the case at all. The battery tools make that claim but it has not helped my battery life (stock or rooted) on any of my multiple droid 4 or d2g

karlsdroids said:
I have not found that to be the case at all. The battery tools make that claim but it has not helped my battery life (stock or rooted) on any of my multiple droid 4 or d2g
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Same here. In a couple cases its just made it worse. I will be trying out the extended battery in a couple weeks though. Hopefully it'll let me go at least a day without charging.
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The Droid 4 firmware just isn't very battery friendly... and it's not a new phone so your battery probably isn't either. Two things to consider.
LiIon batteries lose capacity over both cycles (cycling losses) and time (calendar losses.) If your battery is 18 months old and was charged nightly, you've lost 25% or more of the life anyhow... much more if the phone was kept plugged in after the charge and ran warm. And the drop accelerates with more cycles. It may be time to change the battery.
Adding JuiceDefender ( I use Ultimate) triples my battery life even in basic mode.
Replacing the battery is really simple; buy one from Amazon, open the back, carefully pry out the old one (it's held down by a double-sided tape), unscrew the connector (very small Torx, but jewelers screwdrivers work), swap and reassemble. $30 later (and a few hours to charge), you have your capacity back.

Wotta said:
The Droid 4 firmware just isn't very battery friendly... and it's not a new phone so your battery probably isn't either. Two things to consider.
LiIon batteries lose capacity over both cycles (cycling losses) and time (calendar losses.) If your battery is 18 months old and was charged nightly, you've lost 25% or more of the life anyhow... much more if the phone was kept plugged in after the charge and ran warm. And the drop accelerates with more cycles. It may be time to change the battery.
Adding JuiceDefender ( I use Ultimate) triples my battery life even in basic mode.
Replacing the battery is really simple; buy one from Amazon, open the back, carefully pry out the old one (it's held down by a double-sided tape), unscrew the connector (very small Torx, but jewelers screwdrivers work), swap and reassemble. $30 later (and a few hours to charge), you have your capacity back.
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yeah after trying juice defender for about a month or so i noticed my phones battery life extend much more. so i opted to buy the ultimate juice defender and sure enuff more battery life... i am very pleased with this app. however if in the future i do want to extend the battery a lil more, then i will purchase a brand new battery and then replace the old one...

Turning off auto sync, turning off WiFi while on 4G works. Also make sure there's not any apps running in the background. Being root, there's apps you can download to close any open app
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fathermocker said:
What I meant was if it was possible to just use 2G for Internet connections, instead of 2G+3G+4G.
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just go into your settings of your networking section:
settings-wireless&networks-mobilenetworks-networkmode
and choose ur favourite mode!
gsm=2g
wcdma=3g
lte=4g
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with CM it is an easy to safe much energy! and if you really want to do this on a right way, you really need to own a rooted system....
1. underclocked my cpu for 200mhz, dont have to comment.... if you use lightweight lounchers and care for background apps, it will noprob
2. use only 2g-networks, those are more available than every other networks, and even tcp/ip works with it, for whatsapp etc it is way enough bandwitch
very important!!!!
3. check your internal recievers after installing an app!! with "autorun manager" on a rooted device you can uncheck every function from every app, even autostart of an already killed facebook app, or statistical functions from apps which comes with most of them
4. get your brightness automated, if it is dark, you can automatically safe energy by a automatically regulation
5. maybe you would prefer to deactivate vibrations/haptic feedback/call vibration completely, its very energy consumpting.....
6. deactivate the gps-reciever complete, and just turn it on if you need it
7. set your display timeout as less than possible for your behaviour, 15 seconds may be enough
8. know what runs in background, evrything in background, sucks energy.....
9. deactivate nfc
10. deactivate bluetooth
with this i get a standby about ~1-3 days! and if im phoning and writing to much maybe not fully to one day. if i watch now on my energy tables, my display is consumpting still 40-60% battery per charge, but i dont think that even more safings would be possible
and with the app "tasker" you can even script this in endless environments

MiLoS R2D2 said:
yeah after trying juice defender for about a month or so i noticed my phones battery life extend much more. so i opted to buy the ultimate juice defender and sure enuff more battery life... i am very pleased with this app. however if in the future i do want to extend the battery a lil more, then i will purchase a brand new battery and then replace the old one...
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How does JuiceDefender save the battery? I have used many battery saver apps (including Juicedefender) and I always find that they run in the background and kill the apps which I would close anyway. Does it do anything besides kill background apps? By now I've deleted most background apps and have only kept the apps I want (which are few) and I still find battery life subpar.
Also definitely keeping 3G/4G off is a huge help. Wouldn't be able to make it very far without turning those off

I use Autorun Manager pro to freeze Google Play Services. Funnily enough, Play Store and Google Maps still work like a charm yet Google Play Services don't run background
Edited: With stock rom, install SetCPU and change the governor to hotplug. Underclock max frequency down to 800 MHz. You won't notice much different for normal tasks like watching videos, sms,...That setting is enough for me to play FF4 on MyBoy but playing heavy graphic games might not be snappy tho.

For me not using gaaps improve battery life. Every one knows for google play service that you cannot stop Instead I use calldav for my contacts.

me battery drain in me droid 4 jb 4.1.2 with gsm patch is of 60% for screen, the battery only run about 6hs, can i fix this? thanks

Google services is killing my battery on HTC one

According to gsam Google service Is the culprit if ny high awake times (see screenshot below). But how can I reduce this problem without defeating the purpose of having a smartphone,and according to the battery graph u don't see Google services listed at all.

/facepalm
A 21-minute wakelock out of a 12 hour recording session. The sky must be falling.
Unless you shut down any Google app using Google Play Services, no, there's nothing to do. The only reason it comes up as a larger power use is because it's essentially aggregating the power previously used by six or seven different apps. You seriously need to get some perspective on what constitutes "bad" battery life because you just keep posting "my battery suxorz" threads with less and less justification each time.

Hmm. I get pretty crappy battery life, but that battery life doesn't look too good. How much screen time? Your kernel should use about 25% of your battery. If you're on stock, that is.
Try clearing cache for GP services. Try using the phone for a day. See if that works. If not, then clear data.

sauprankul said:
Hmm. I get pretty crappy battery life, but that battery life doesn't look too good. How much screen time? Your kernel should use about 25% of your battery. If you're on stock, that is.
Try clearing cache for GP services. Try using the phone for a day. See if that works. If not, then clear data.
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Here is my current stats also I'm completely stock (no root) and my herbal US currently 23%,how much higher(percentage wise) can it get before it will start causing orovkens?

For stock non rooted,that seems about right. That's what I get. Around 13 hours a day with 3 how screen time.
Actually, you are getting much better battery life than I do.
What are your settings? WiFi? LTE? Battery saving apps? Facebook? I can't for the life if me get decent battery life. As I said, the kernel uses up 25% of my battery.
EDIT: Also, I looked at my stats, and it seems that Google services wakes my device a lot too. So yeah, your stats are normal. :good:

Is this normal for me? I left my phone overnight and it goes to deep sleep with barely no screen time but there's major drain. What is the difference between screen on time and awake? Is it some background services running? I checked the wakelocks and nothing seems wrong.
Edit: Looks like something is keeping the kernel awake. Does anyone know what is msm_hsic_host?

sauprankul said:
For stock non rooted,that seems about right. That's what I get. Around 13 hours a day with 3 how screen time.
Actually, you are getting much better battery life than I do.
What are your settings? WiFi? LTE? Battery saving apps? Facebook? I can't for the life if me get decent battery life. As I said, the kernel uses up 25% of my battery.
EDIT: Also, I looked at my stats, and it seems that Google services wakes my device a lot too. So yeah, your stats are normal. :good:
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I only use the power saver with cpu,and data connection enabled,auto sync disabled,I'm on wifi when at home,and 3g/lte enabled when im away from home all the time,auto-sync disabled (no need for it). NFC and all location services are on all the time (google's location service along with GPS),brightness set from 0%-20% (depending on lighting conditions). I also use the facebook app with syncing disabled.If you have any other questions or if I missed something feel free to ask.

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I only use the power saver with cpu,and data connection enabled,auto sync disabled,I'm on wifi when at home,and 3g/lte enabled when im away from home all the time,auto-sync disabled (no need for it). NFC and all location services are on all the time (google's location service along with GPS),brightness set from 0%-20% (depending on lighting conditions). I also use the facebook app with syncing disabled.If you have any other questions or if I missed something feel free to ask.
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That's exactly what I do! But I get really crappy signal and I'm on mible data quite a bit. What am I missing out on?
What percent of battery does your kernel use?

sauprankul said:
That's exactly what I do! But I get really crappy signal and I'm on mible data quite a bit. What am I missing out on?
What percent of battery does your kernel use?
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it ranges from 20%-25%,once it got up to 28% but I was doing some heavy gaming,but after that it went down to 23% according to gsam's app sucker on the % power used screen. I'm rarely in a low signal area, but when I am i'm not in that area for long enough time for it to really impact my battery.

Rirere said:
/facepalm
A 21-minute wakelock out of a 12 hour recording session. The sky must be falling.
Unless you shut down any Google app using Google Play Services, no, there's nothing to do. The only reason it comes up as a larger power use is because it's essentially aggregating the power previously used by six or seven different apps. You seriously need to get some perspective on what constitutes "bad" battery life because you just keep posting "my battery suxorz" threads with less and less justification each time.
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I'm going to have to agree here. I think people are expecting way to much out of these machines. Especially if your gaming and browsing a lot. Assuming your not crippling your smartphone functions by disabling data and such,This phone is only rated for about 3 or 4 hours screen on time max, especially while gaming. 12 hours of battery is perfectly fine. Especially for the use case of the OP.
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Nexus 5 BETTER Battery Performance

I have been reading the many battery threads where people are posting screenshots and either complaining or raving about their particular Nexus 5’s battery performance. I am shocked that some people are turning off their Wifi, Mobile Data, GPS, Google Now, Sync, and every other feature that makes these phones so useful and still suffering with poor battery performance.
In this thread, instead of complaining or bragging about your battery performance, I thought that this could be used as a place where you all can post how you use your device and what you are doing to save juice and how it works. I’ll go first.
I have had 3 different Nexus 5’s. The first had the speaker/microphone problem and was RMAed. The second was doing great until it overheated and the LEDs at the bottom of the screen exploded. It was RMAed. My current one seems to have a weaker vibrator motor, but I’m going to live with it.
I use my phone instead of my laptop. It seems the only time I use my laptop these days it to flash my phone. I browse the web (Chrome), watch YouTube (YouTube App), read my email (Gmail), shop Amazon (Amazon App), manage my schedule (Calendar App, Pure Calendar Widget), get my news (Flipboard), participate in groups (Google Plus), Chromecast (Netflix, YouTube), participate in these forums (XDA Premium App), and various others. I don’t really play games and don’t tax the CPU to hard.
To save juice, I…
use LUX to manage my screen brightness and usually can function with the screen below 0% unless I’m outside.
use Tasker to turn on/off my wifi, data, gps, sync, and perform a few other tasks, kind-of-like juice defender, but a lot more reliable.
use Better Battery Stats to keep an eye on my apps and de-install apps with bad behavior. I plan on installing Greenify, but have not gotten around to it.
I usually get 12 to 14 hours with 3-4 hours screen time before I plug my phone in at night and have 25%-50% battery left. And, I don't feel I'm depriving myself of any performance.
Some things I have read…
With these new batteries, you never want to let them fully discharge. In fact, keeping them charged is very important, so having a charger at work, or in your car is a good practice.
When your phone gets hot, give it a rest. A hot phone is not working efficiently, and you can damage the battery permanently if it overheats.
It takes a few days for your phone to reach its best performance. When you first get it, it is working in the background to index files and such, which is keeping the phone from reaching deep sleep and is using juice.
After an update, if your phone just doesn’t seem right, it might not be. Do a factory reset and try again. If something didn’t update correctly, there is no telling what could be affected…even your battery performance.
If you have ideas on how to increase battery performance, or discovered apps or settings that drain your battery, please post them here.
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Make sure your apps are configured properly. For example, make sure apps such as Google + are configured to only backup while charging.
In Settings / Locations, set mode to 'Battery Saving' . It passively detects your location which uses no battery. It has been reported that turning off 'location reporting' has no negative effect on Now and Maps. This is a big juice saver.
Kill apps when done using them. Some apps, if left open, will continue draining your juice.
Turn off 'Scanning Always Available' in Wifi /Advanced Settings.
Things I Have Been Experimenting With...
Greenify is a great app for battery optimization. I have apps on my phone that I don't use often, but seem to keep the phone awake. Greenify them and put the app to bed until you need it.
I've been experimenting with Kernels. After much experimentation, I used Franco Kernel on my GN, so I tried his out and have noticed a battery savings on my screen off time. This is a recommendation for rooted phones because the Franco Updater app on the Play Store does all the heavy lifting.
If you find this information helpful, please hit the 'thanks' button.
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My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.

Wow. On stock I easily get 5 hours screen on time with everything on, but only 14ish hours total. With light usage (2 1/2 hrs) close to 27 hours. However I've seen guys posting over 3 days so now I'm playing around with kernels (Franco at the moment) and multirom. I'm using ART but not sure how much difference honestly.
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maxpower7 said:
My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.
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You can also just greenify Google+ and also check if you have the photo backup with it turned to on. I found my app running for half an hour while phone was off and it was due to the backing up of the photos.

Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..

I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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rayiskon said:
Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..
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Yea. But mostly you will read people bragging or complaining. There is a lot of good information in those threads, but to find it, you will have to dig. My intention is that this thread will be a place to find, test, and compile solutions for those suffering with poor performance.
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jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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I greenify most apps, keep screen brightness down, GPS Bluetooth always off, data only on when screen on, etc. I got 1 day 15 hours with over 6 hours screen time with my usage. I mostly use my phone for xda, 9gag, some chrome browsing, and a couple other things.
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JamieFL said:
I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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Yup I use that same setting thanks for pointing that out :good:
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IMO, I shouldn't have to do any of this to "save" battery life. It is what it is.

jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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Google+ kills my battery regardless of what my settings are. I literally only used it as an offline photo gallery - there was no syncing being done at all, no auto-awesome, no photo backups or any of that. I don't know how there could possibly be any user error in my setup.

I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.

muyoso said:
I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.
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Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.

maxpower7 said:
Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.
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Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.

For me at least, I went from about half a day on full battery to almost a day and a half by turning off LTE and Wi-Fi scanning with constant usage. I was conflicted a bit for choosing either LTE or battery life but I'm happier with choosing battery life.
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I added the suggestion about setting location reporting off. Thanks.
I've heard that if your area has poor LTE signal, that can cause a big battery drain. Can anyone confirm that? If this is true, this could be a big contributor to unexplained battery drain.

muyoso said:
Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.
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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.

PsychDrummer said:
Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.
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Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.

muyoso said:
Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.
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Gotcha. I mean it's not a huge deal. Google often thinks I'm driving to work/class when I'm not actually doing so and it's more useful to check traffic within the Maps app anyway. I'll try the reporting off for a few days though and see how much of a difference it makes.