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I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject making them unacceptably too soft.
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EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
Nothing like this for me ... Pictures are perfect ... I love the cam ... Maybe its cuz u zoom in too much or something.
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Hmmm, I never zoom though.
Or maybe its just our diff opinions ... For me its perfect ... Maybe u expected something better
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chobie said:
I've noticed that the camera of the IS blur parts of photos a lot. I noticed this problem on subjects with finer details eg. skin, rocks etc. It tends to blur or supress the finer details within the subject.
Opinions?
EDIT: I meant to say NOISE REDUCTION
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I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I hope this is just a software problem and hopefully they could patch it via an update.
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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I'm no photographer, but I noticed the file size as well, too much compression.
And waaaay to much noise reduction.
Also, you can switch of standard widescreen to normal 4:3 which results in this:
5:3 = 3264 x 1952 = 6371328 = 6.4 megapixel
4:3 = 3264 x 2448 = 7990272 = 8.0 megapixel
Hopefully we can turn off noise reduction and/or compression in the next update. Shouldn't be too hard for HTC to disable stuff right
Yes... I just upgraded from HTC Desire and I found that pics are not as detailed as before...
The compression thing should be an option, like many other DC.
I noticed the same with my IS...
My Camera 360 app's night enhancement mode is unusable now.
My N1 took beautiful sharp pictures of this same spot I took.
Now it's all blocky, soft, and washed out even though I've maxed out the resolution and size.
This makes me mad!
If it can take macroshots well, why can't it take landscape / non-macroshots well too?
1st photo: Nexus One
2nd Photo: HTC Incredible S
nikant said:
I agree.. I'm a photographer and would love to use the IS camera for some projects.. they obviously -in my eyes- compress too much.. It's impossible for an 8MP camera to produce files under 1MB..
Was'nt there a patch for that or is it only for rooted phones?
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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Here's the patch for CM7 (N1). Root is required as it is replacing a file in the /system partition.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011810
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We dont have root yet though. Makes me sadder =/
HTC should update the firmware and fix this themselves. I wonder if theyll have this problem on Verizon's Incredible 2.
I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
when i load the photos to my laptop, i found all of them a little bit red...
I really can not be satisfied with this so-called 8 mega-pixel camera.
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I've send an email to HTC support just out of curiosity of their official response.. Although I don't believe they'll say something significant. Companies tend to defend their choices..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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got a reply today.. they asked me for samples of photos that show the problem.. I sent them.. let's see..
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The most terrible scenario is using zoom. You would want to move forward a few steps, it entirely defeats the purpose of zoom.
We should rally this and send more samples to them.
What email contact did you guys use?
Hopefully they patch this with the Gingerbread update!
Maybe they had used to the bad quality of camera, because from now on, HTC is really not good at the entertainment field in mobile phone, no matter camera or music.
Hi guys
the camera quality of this phone is terrible, the image are always affected by blurry effects and low details and much noise.
Is it normal ?
There's a FIX for this ?
SW or HW issue ?
Thank U
No fix for now...
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When I had my Lg p990 I was also trying to investigate the reason of the bad camera quality.
Then I read somewhere: Better have a goo quality camera with lesser MP then have a ****ty quality camera with higher MP.
My Nokia N95 8GB with 5 MP took better photos vs LG o2x P990 8 MP.
Another deal-breaker, I was actually thinking in buying p880.....
Thank you for saving me
We're relying on LG to fix this one.
By the sound of things it's a good camera that has been badly configured.
Ksekhar has done all that he can here, but the frustration got the better of him and he's abandoned the device.
Can't say I blame him.
Can't a third party camera app fix this?
I think that only changing lenses
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Guys, what do you expect? There is a reason why this phone is cheaper than the competition...
chalid said:
Guys, what do you expect? There is a reason why this phone is cheaper than the competition...
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..yes. It doesn't have overly advertised and expensive bloatware on it that drains the battery in a day no matter what you do. Never mind force you to use some proprietary solution to transfer any files onto it, while making it impossible to use external storage media
The camera default settings just aren't calibrated very well. If you turn down the exposure time so the "correction" algorithms don't try to mesh two completely different pictures, it's no worse or better than any other camera with a plastic lens.
Seriously, though -- how much do you guys think the camera modules in these phones actually cost? :laugh:
It's not just bad calibration - its bad hardware. I attached sample shots of my old galaxy s2 and the lg optimus 4x hd.
As you can see, the galaxy s2 image is MUCH sharper and clearer - especially at the edges and the color reproduction is far better as well. That's not just bad calibration ...
no cameramod:
cameramod v4:
cameramod v5:
samsung galaxy s2:
But pretty sure the iso speed is the same on all those pictures.. If you try with the other presets, some custom fiddling, or just use the snap-function while filming -- you won't get the same blur in the picture.
So.. conclusion: the profiles probably would have worked perfectly fine on a super-steady hand, a tripod, and perhaps also in a world where light travels at the speed of sound or so.
(btw, not making the point that the camera is awesome. Just saying that you're not going to take very good pictures with a camera like this no matter what. It is, however, possible to take reasonably good mobile phone pictures - on this camera, just like any other mobile phone camera.)
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But pretty sure the iso speed is the same on all those pictures.. If you try with the other presets, some custom fiddling, or just use the snap-function while filming -- you won't get the same blur in the picture.
So.. conclusion: the profiles probably would have worked perfectly fine on a super-steady hand, a tripod, and perhaps also in a world where light travels at the speed of sound or so.
(btw, not making the point that the camera is awesome. Just saying that you're not going to take very good pictures with a camera like this no matter what. It is, however, possible to take reasonably good mobile phone pictures - on this camera, just like any other mobile phone camera.)
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@UIQrules: Actually I leant onto something when I took those picture - and I took 20 or so on the LG and chose the best. There is no way you can get the same results like with the Galaxy S2. There is better hardware in use with the Samsung phone. It has nothing to do with software configuration.
Acutally I think the Galaxy S2 pictures are pretty awesome - even by a compact camera point of view. The LG is fine for me, because I don't need the camera very often, but I can see why someone would change for another phone, because of all those high-end smartphones out there, the Optimus 4X probably takes the worst pictures.
*nods* agree with that.
But yeah, noticed the same thing. As steady as possible, and still getting the weird blur, even at close range and perfect lighting. Then I took a few "speed" shots, at the same resolution, and it went away. So I don't know what it is, but I suspect it has something to do with the way the picture buffers are used. Amazing that it would go through qa, of course, no doubt about that. It is, like you say, something you notice right away.
Whenever manufacturers pull unexpected moves, I always get a bit curious as to why. Now, I'm perfectly aware of that megapixels doesn't mean much for the outcome of the photo, but it seems that because of the low MP in the HTC One camera, the pictures don't seem to end up as detailed as in 13MP shooters, and the low MP show again when you zoom the photo.
I'm still getting this phone, though. It's the only one that's interesting right now. Lagdung can take a hike.
Good to see that you have seen the light. I flurted briefly with an s3 which was not a bad device but doesn't compare with the 'one.'
The camera has it's pluses and minuses compared with other top end devices but, for me at least, the pluses considerably outweigh the minuses.
I am confident that you won't be disappointed.
Do you use your phone to snap pics of your mates down the pub? 4Mp with 2um sensor pixel is perfect. Fast shutter even in low light and decent file size.
Do you use it to go out and capture windswept vistas at the finest detail level possible? If so then there isn't a phone camera out there that will do them real justice - take the Canon and do the job properly.
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Tetsumi06 said:
Do you use your phone to snap pics of your mates down the pub? 4Mp with 2um sensor pixel is perfect. Fast shutter even in low light and decent file size.
Do you use it to go out and capture windswept vistas at the finest detail level possible? If so then there isn't a phone camera out there that will do them real justice - take the Canon and do the job properly.
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actually there might be one phone Nokia 808 lol
Correction: 4UP not 4MP
anyway, the camera is pretty good for general use, as long as you dont always keep zooming in on the images. quality is fine. at least it blows the Nexus 4 camera out of the water
The larger pixel size equates to a faster shutter speed that makes sense. Pictures are so good.
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Whenever manufacturers pull unexpected moves, I always get a bit curious as to why. Now, I'm perfectly aware of that megapixels doesn't mean much for the outcome of the photo, but it seems that because of the low MP in the HTC One camera, the pictures don't seem to end up as detailed as in 13MP shooters, and the low MP show again when you zoom the photo.
I'm still getting this phone, though. It's the only one that's interesting right now. Lagdung can take a hike.
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Lagdung? Is that like slow crap? LOL Uh oh, I have a laggy dung
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Correction: 4UP not 4MP
anyway, the camera is pretty good for general use, as long as you dont always keep zooming in on the images. quality is fine. at least it blows the Nexus 4 camera out of the water
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Many cameras blow the N4's one out of the water. It's crap.
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Lagdung? Is that like slow crap? LOL Uh oh, I have a laggy dung
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Lagdung = A nickname I made up for Samsung.
bobsie41 said:
Good to see that you have seen the light. I flurted briefly with an s3 which was not a bad device but doesn't compare with the 'one.'
The camera has it's pluses and minuses compared with other top end devices but, for me at least, the pluses considerably outweigh the minuses.
I am confident that you won't be disappointed.
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I hope so too.
The 808 comes with a 30-300 lense? How do you fit it in your pocket?
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LOL!
4 is definitely enough for day to day shots.
But my 808. Wow. No comparison
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Don't forget about OIS. Obviously that helps with videos, but it seems to really help stabilize the hand for quick shots as well.
Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days now. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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Howdy! I've got this phone for 3 days one. One of the main reasons to choose this one, is the camera. It should give stunning pictures, right? Wrong.
I can't for the love of me get even one good picture. Each and every one is either out of focus, distorted in some way, or it looks like there's not enough light (even when the picture is taken outside).
I started out with the automatic mode. What I dislike there, is that it never chooses the max. resolution. Manual mode, I can't get it to make good pictures either; though that might be because of lack of expertise.
Is my device broken? Am I doing something wrong? Help would be appreciated.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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What is your firmware version? 354 i guess.
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Thank you for your reply. I'm currently on the newest firmware. I'm running RomAur v3.2. I had the same problem on a different modified stock ROM of the latest firmware build.
I only know for good light condition, you set the ISO to as low as possible and 20mp manual and need a pair of steady hands. I still havent figure out low light condition, some ppl suggest twilight mode.
1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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1. manual mode. the automode is bull****
2. fullsize. you can resize after the shooting^^
3. let the iso as low as possible. remember that the image becomes a little brighter than in the preview. use flash if its dark
i dont have any problems with the camera, even if taking pictures of moving obejcts in dark conditions. just stop shaking your hands and geht the iso lower^^
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Yea iso to a lower value
Here is a picture with iso over 100
And one at 50 (if picture can't be attached then I'll post it next - having issue with xda app)
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Meh I'm not happy with xda app
Here is pic with 100 iso
U may need to adjust ev accordingly
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This is with bad lighting (Sun was shining at the cam), a view from my window. Is this the quality I should expect from this phonecam?
Inside, it's never sharp. There simply seems to be too little light to make sharp pictures. The flash does nearly nothing. The low ISO setting makes it lag very much as well, reducing the screen fps to 3 or something like that. I guess it's difficult for the device to keep up.
http://aciai.me/i/uk0v.jpg
Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
im not satisfied at all with z1 camera , am i missing something ??
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I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
Angelusz said:
Those do look better. Do I understand correctly that I should take a course in photography and buy a an app to get decent pictures out of this thing? I've heard about FV-5 before. Is it that much better than the stock camera app?
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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I've not done photography either mate and the pictures were taken with stock camera application, except the picture of my can
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Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
guybrush2099 said:
there are two apps much better than FV-5
1) Pro Capture: More details. Sharper pictures. aiding grid to get great shots. (but you can't manage ISO level and the max resolution is 8MPX)
2) Camera Zoom FX: Faster focus. More MPX option (18MPX resolution is available)
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Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Check out my images in this topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47315006#post47315006
Nothing wrong with the camera with the right settings and don't have shaky hands!
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Mmm, can you explain me better auto mode? Do you selected a scene? Do you select single focus point or multi point?
Metering? (Can you explain this)
HDR or image stabilizer?
Do you use the hardware button to take pictures or the software one? I noticed that using the hw one after you press focus and then more to shoot produce a little movement that can make your photo bad. Am I the only one that find the camera button too hard?
Thanks a lot!!!!
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Angelusz said:
Then my device is broken. I tested a few shots next to a Galaxy Note 3, and it made much (MUCH) better pictures than my Z1. Tried all kinds of settings, no way to make it right. So mine must be ****. I'm getting it exchanged because of a lazy pixel anyway, but I'm really disappointed in Sony here. I thought they made quality products. :x
Okay, thanks for the tips.
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Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
ganex said:
Got my Z1 today.
I have exactly the same problems as you have. Even my Galaxy Nexus with 5mp does better photos :crying:
Also tried some different camera settings without any success.
Don't know what to do now...
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My advice: Contact the seller and have it exchanged. I think it's a hardware problem.
yes..nexus can't take better pictures than xz1..there's a problem
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what do you think?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-21310660/DSC_0030.jpg.html
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settings: manual, iso 200, light +0,7, 5284x3963.
what is wrong? what focus do you use?
Alot of the reviews says, nexus 6 camera experience has been a "hit or miss" from taking a good pic even with HDR on. Would it help to install a new camera app and do some tweakings over it, or better yet use an xposed module (if any) to fix the issue?
I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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A lens is proportionate to the sensor. On top of that? It's a fixed lens. They can make those extremely small when we're talking about phone sensors. There is also no mechanical shutter, meaning the lens can be even more compact. This is why mirrorless cameras have small lenses. This of course goes for cell phone lenses in general, but the reason is there's really no need to put a huge lens on a phone.
The dual LED flashes won't overexpose the image, don't worry. In the studio we use a ring flash - same concept - there are some versions that operate as a regular flash, and there's some versions that operate constant on. You can shoot with either. Studio LED lighting is even becoming a thing now, it's cool because you can control the color temp directly and change the brightness.. it's also always on so WYSIWYG. Either way your flash will operate TTL and will not overexpose Xenon - what a hotshoe flash uses - will just use a lot of energy and drain your batteries. LED is very efficient.
The ring flash appears to be too small to have the "ring flash effect", which is uniform lighting around a subject that is popular in fashion and hides blemishes.. I mean it's like the size of a finger. The source of the flash is too small to produce any meaningful difference between the "ring" flash and the regular samsung/iphone flashes. It's going to look about the same. If you see a difference, it's software.
I am just excited about the RAW support in 5.0. I am okay with an f/2.0 aperture on a device in my pocket. If I needed something better, my DSLR has a 50mm f/1.5 which is only a camera bag away
The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy
I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
rmagruder said:
The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy
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Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
Smallsmx3 said:
Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
Pilz said:
I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
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Let us know how it goes
rmagruder said:
No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
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Then something is broken on your phone. Completely stock N6, not even root let alone disabling encryption, without HDR+ or Flash... the phone takes pictures within half a second every time.
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Let us know how it goes
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It's still FC's even after I moved the camera.apk and camera.odex into the system/app and I wrote over the Nexus's libs with the G3's. I'm not sure why its FC's maybe I can install the framework.apk from my G3 and see if that works.
Try some low light shots....
tripler6 said:
I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Any chance for Slo Mo video (at least 120fps) with this "mythical camera app"?
rmagruder said:
Try some low light shots....
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I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
Cwoomer said:
I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
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The pics are great when you are in a very well lit place. The moment you start to lose even a little light (semi lit), the camera really struggles. I'm very disappointed to start, but I'm going to stay patient and wait for Google to fix this.
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I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
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The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
dannieloco said:
The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
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The G3 uses the IMX135 sensor while the Nexus uses the IMX214 which is a better sensor. So in theory the Nexus 6 is capable of better photos if the software can back it up. The G3 still uses the lib's and framework from LG no matter what camera app you are using from what I understand.
Anyone know anything about the Slo Mo capabilities? Im wanting to buy the N6 but the Slo Mo feature is really important to me. Hopefully it is possible with the sensor which everyone seems to regard as a pretty high quality sensor.