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[Q] Rear camera blur problem. Anyone?

This is my first post here, so first of all, hello everyone and greetings from Finland!
I bought the IS about two weeks ago. Today I took my first outdoor pics and noticed a strange phenomenon. If I focus on a distant object (typical for outdoor shots), the extreme right-hand side of the photo is quite mushy and blurred. The affected area is only about 200 pixels wide (starting from the edge) and goes all the way from top to bottom. Everything else, including the left side, is tack sharp (well, as sharp as it can be with this camera anyway). This happens with every photo, if the focusing distance is relatively long. Close-range shots (indoor pics, for example) are just fine, also the right-hand sides of the photos turn out sharp. This is very strange.
I'm a very experienced photographer, so it's not my technique. Something is wrong with the optics alignment, sensor or it could be a software issue. With optical problems the close-range shots are usually more problematic because of short depth-of-field, which makes the alignment errors much more visible.
Anyone else having similar experiences? Take an outdoor shot using a focusing distance of, let's say, 20-50 meters (or yards) and see if the right side of the image is as sharp as the left side. Make sure there's something with lots of detail near the edges of the image. I would be much less worried, if both sides of the photos were softish. After all, that would be quite typical for less-than-stellar optics found in camera phones. It's the asymmetry that bothers me.
This is actually my only gripe with this phone. Apart from this unpleasant surprise I really like the IS.
Pete
P.S. No fingerprints on the lens, it's clean!

There's an ongoing thread about the camera quality issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021940

chobie said:
There's an ongoing thread about the camera quality issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021940
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Thanks for the tip!
I did a bit more controlled experimenting and sadly it seems that also close-distance shots suffer from the same right-hand side blurriness. If I take a photo of a completely flat surface, focusing on the center part of the viewing area, the extreme right-hand side of the photo is soft. There's nothing wrong with the left-hand side. Also, the affected area is almost 400 pixels wide (wide angle setting, no zooming). I also rotated the phone 180 degrees and took comparison shots. And...the left-hand side was blurry.
Maybe I have a bad sample. I can't exchange it for a new one, so I guess I have to live with it or have the local HTC service take a look at it. I'm not too keen on doing that.
Pete

Nothing like this in mine. Photos are good. No blur at the right.

cooljais said:
Nothing like this in mine. Photos are good. No blur at the right.
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Thanks for your comment, good to know your camera is working fine!
I'm suspecting there's dirt inside the lens assembly or on the sensor. My IS is now being serviced at the local HTC service center. I'll let you know how this turns out.

Guess caused by auto focusing

Camera issue: Straight lines

I've just been running some tests on my Z1 camera.
I noticed that it's virtually unable to produce straight lines.
I've attached a picture of my PC's monitor (in admittedly difficult light) and as you can see the normally straight lines of the bezel and windows all bulge.
Does anyone else have that issue? Is my camera a duff one?
I'm extremely hesitant to send it in to Sony for repair. Currently they have my old Xperia Z for repairs, to replace the camera module that developed black spots. It's been three weeks and still waiting for it to come back (UK repair centre).
It's those kind of issues that make choosing a Sony extremely frustrating, as much as I want to love the brand.

It's.from the lens of the camera. If someone else's camera doesn't show that aberation you should go to Sony. Only way to get it right is post processing every picture.
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For comparison I took some shots with an old 350D, with kit objective (18-55mm).
One shot with at 18mm, one at 55mm, one with my Z1 and one with an old Xperia Pro.
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For comparison I took some shots with an old 350D, with kit objective (18-55mm).
One shot with at 18mm, one at 55mm, one with my Z1 and one with an old Xperia Pro.
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Your Z1 is also quite bumpy, not perhaps not as much as mine.

naujoks said:
Your Z1 is also quite bumpy, not perhaps not as much as mine.
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Although I don't know how much of distortion is acceptable, it's probably because of the very low focal length and wide angle? I'm no photographer but I expected it to bulge a bit.

yeah i mentioned this in the camera thread in the general section. every Z1 i've tested does this (10+ phones plus every image i've seen of a grid or line from the z1 on this forum). depending on the way the lense is mounted most deformation will normally appear towards the extreme top or bottom of an image.
ps. if you bought your phone from a uk network and are outside of your in store exchange period and wanted to get it repaired (not that i think there are any current z1's without this problem and therefore a lense that would be much better to be put into your phone) than send it through the network shop for a warranty repair and it will be repaired or replaced by anovo (all network shops use them) in around 5 working days.

That´s not unexpected.
If you make a wideangle lens this small there will be always quite a lot of distortion. Almost all cameras nowadays correct this distortions in the image-processing.
The problem is that the optical distortion changes with very close focus-distances and most software-corrections only adjust to the lenses focal-length (when having a zoom-lens), but not to the focus-distance, so the software-correction is wrong.
It seems that Sony does a combination of optically correcting the distortion in the lens, additionally to the software-corrections, which causes this very complex distortion, which quite strong pincushion-distortion in the center while still having some barrel-distortion at the edges of the image.
In distances 1m+ there is hardly any visible distortion left.

*R2D2* said:
That´s not unexpected.
If you make a wideangle lens this small there will be always quite a lot of distortion. Almost all cameras nowadays correct this distortions in the image-processing.
The problem is that the optical distortion changes with very close focus-distances and most software-corrections only adjust to the lenses focal-length (when having a zoom-lens), but not to the focus-distance, so the software-correction is wrong.
It seems that Sony does a combination of optically correcting the distortion in the lens, additionally to the software-corrections, which causes this very complex distortion, which quite strong pincushion-distortion in the center while still having some barrel-distortion at the edges of the image.
In distances 1m+ there is hardly any visible distortion left.
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That's very interesting and the most insightful reply on this topic in any thread yet, thanks. My only concern is that i have read a report of a picture of a horizon have both the barrel distortion and pincushion problems which is at some distance. I'll have to check for long distance distortion. If it's not there i'm happy.

Thanks for the replies!
On top of the above problem I also noticed a distinct out of focus area (top left corner in my case) in shots taken at a wide distance.
I can't say I every detected either of these problems on my old iPhone 5. Maybe Apple's camera is simply better and the algorithms even things out more.
I'm currently having the Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3 at home and try to decide which one to keep, and it's proving very difficult. Both phones have their distinct positive and negative sides.

naujoks said:
Thanks for the replies!
On top of the above problem I also noticed a distinct out of focus area (top left corner in my case) in shots taken at a wide distance.
I can't say I every detected either of these problems on my old iPhone 5. Maybe Apple's camera is simply better and the algorithms even things out more.
I'm currently having the Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3 at home and try to decide which one to keep, and it's proving very difficult. Both phones have their distinct positive and negative sides.
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the bottom right side of my pictures are blurred. gsmarena had a similar issue with their test unit.

Today I conducted some more tests with both Z1 and GN 3.
At 100 ISO the Z1 showed considerable noise and much less in focus than the GN3, in good light.
At first I thought that the Z1 camera complaints might be not so visible to the untrained eye and that the average user such as myself wouldn't notice anything amiss, but the differences in direct comparison are really striking.
There are many things I like about the Z1, and its design is far superior to the GN 3, but knowing that there are virtually no conditions under which the Z1 would be able to take good pictures is a deal break for me, so the Z1 will go up on eBay. Hopefully better luck in 6 months with the Z's next iteration.

naujoks said:
At 100 ISO the Z1 showed considerable noise and much less in focus than the GN3, in good light.
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I think Sonys decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was a good (although unexpecting when looking at their cameras which usually use quite heavy NR). Chroma-Noise is very well under control up to the highest sensitivities and the luminance-noise is very fine grained and not objectionable at all. Unfortunately thats not true for ISO 1600+, where NR gets so high everything becomes a blurry mess. Of course these sensitivities are hardly usable for 1/2,3"-Sensors, regardless of the strength of the NR
Finally you can always use some additional NR in PP, but you never can bring back detail that has already been destroyed by heavy processing.
Also contrast (at least in manual) mode is quite low (at least for a consumer-device), which leads to surprisingly good DR, unlike the blocked shadows (which also hide noise) you get on most phones (and most compact-cameras as well). Again increasing contrast in PP is not a problem, unlike the other way around.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
Of course there will be less in focus as well, a bigger sensor + larger aperture means less DOF and therefore less in focus.
This can also become a problem at close focus-ranges, because the focus-plane is in reality not flat, instead it is somewhat spherical shaped. At close focus-distances therefore soft corners can become a problem.

demoniality said:
My only concern is that i have read a report of a picture of a horizon have both the barrel distortion and pincushion problems which is at some distance. I'll have to check for long distance distortion. If it's not there i'm happy.
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I've taken pictures of a sea horizon...
They get the strange distortion too
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I think Sony's decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was good.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
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I'm completely agree
High detail is better than a very little bit of noise
I think the only thing I would like to see in next firmware is a stronger sharpness algorithm. XZ with Honami Camera driver produces sharper pictures (obviously they get more grain and pixelled than XZ1 when zooming in because of sensor, lens and mpx)

*R2D2* said:
I think Sonys decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was a good (although unexpecting when looking at their cameras which usually use quite heavy NR). Chroma-Noise is very well under control up to the highest sensitivities and the luminance-noise is very fine grained and not objectionable at all. Unfortunately thats not true for ISO 1600+, where NR gets so high everything becomes a blurry mess. Of course these sensitivities are hardly usable for 1/2,3"-Sensors, regardless of the strength of the NR
Finally you can always use some additional NR in PP, but you never can bring back detail that has already been destroyed by heavy processing.
Also contrast (at least in manual) mode is quite low (at least for a consumer-device), which leads to surprisingly good DR, unlike the blocked shadows (which also hide noise) you get on most phones (and most compact-cameras as well). Again increasing contrast in PP is not a problem, unlike the other way around.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
Of course there will be less in focus as well, a bigger sensor + larger aperture means less DOF and therefore less in focus.
This can also become a problem at close focus-ranges, because the focus-plane is in reality not flat, instead it is somewhat spherical shaped. At close focus-distances therefore soft corners can become a problem.
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An interesting and well informed reply, however, in my test shots we were not just talking about "a bit" of noise, but a considerable amount, and the picture was noticeably less sharp than the GN 3 picture I took, with its 13MP camera. So if there are any advantages to be had on the Sony, I can't see them. And while I theoretically could tinker with improving the pics in Photoshop I don't think I would have had the patience to do this with every little picture I take.
So, out of the box, the Samsung produces the better pictures, with less hassle for me, and I don't need to have specialist knowledge in photography or Photoshop in order to get a good result, and that's what tipped the scale for me.

hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?

shawnhalu said:
hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.

shawnhalu said:
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.

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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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haha i cant see the softness u stating. i try take afew more picture head on and let u see. thanks

naujoks said:
I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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actually i cant see the crooked line where is it?
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naujoks said:
I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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photo retake for u, can u help me have a look of the softness and the crooked line?

shawnhalu said:
photo retake for u, can u help me have a look of the softness and the crooked line?
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First picture again shows severe softness on the right side, just look how hard it is to read the text.
Corner-sharpness isn´t the greatest with this camera, which is to be expected considering the relatively large sensor with a relatively small lens, but this shouldn´t extend that far into the picture.
Your camera seams to be especially strange, as the corners are actually sharper, the small text of the clock in the bottom right corner for example is much easier to read then the text in the center right side, which is very unusual. Normally the corners are the softest, but as you use 16:9, which crops the extreme corners, there shouldn´t be much of a problem at all.
There is nothing to notice on the rest of the pictures.
I don´t really know what´s going on there, the strange sharpness-pattern could be a result of the rather unusual distortion and the correction for it, but then left and right side should be identical. A misaligned lens/sensor should show worse corners (top right corner is quite good as well).
If the camera had some image-stabilization I would say, that maybe the moving sensor/lens-element moved to an area of the lens which isn´t optically as good, but as this camera doesn´t have any stabilization this isn´t possible.
One guess would be that there is some dirt on one side of your lens, or the covering-glass, or maybe some scratches.
Another guess would be that the camera chose one of the multi-shot-modes. Sonys cameras usually are quite good discovering softer parts of the image and multiple instances of the same objects their multi-shot-modes, but of course the algorithm isn´t fool-proof, so their might be a chance that software combined a softer image in the final picture on the right side, while not using this soft image on the left side.

Front Camera Alignment

Anyone's front facing camera seem like it's out of perfect alignment or is this normal? It's not just a shadow I'm sure if it. http://imgur.com/oYVflP2

Mine is perfectly aligned, so I guess it is not normal. I suppose the front camera does work, and it is only a design issue.

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Anyone's front facing camera seem like it's out of perfect alignment or is this normal? It's not just a shadow I'm sure if it. http://imgur.com/oYVflP2
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Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape, if it really bothers you, you can unclip the back and move it into alignment. But if its functional and lens isn't blocked, I wouldn't worry about it.

Mine looks similar to yours. Doesn't affect the pictures, so I don't care.

It works perfectly. Just aesthetically it bothers me.
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Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape, if it really bothers you, you can unclip the back and move it into alignment. But if its functional and lens isn't blocked, I wouldn't worry about it.
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n19htmare said:
Does it work?
As long as the lens isn't covered, it should be 100% functional. it's held by sticky tape [...]
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Jesus, they really like their double sided sticky tape over there at LG... Isn't the vibrator held with sticky tape too?

Actually mine is a little like yours too. Guessing its "normal"? Unless im looking for it I dont see it.

Mine isnt completely center, so i'm chalking this one up to normal/within spec.

Perfectly centered here and I'm ocd
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Not centered on mine. Damn you for pointing it out to be.
Does anyone else find the angle of the camera to be a bit odd? When looking at it, in Portrait mode, like for a Hangout .. The angle towards you seems to be slightly "off" - anyone else?
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are u really trying to find small things to complain about this phone and post it on here?

Mines a tiny bit off like yours but photos come out fine so I don't care. Not going to replace something that's a non-issue for a potential real issue.

cyburke said:
Not centered on mine. Damn you for pointing it out to be.
Does anyone else find the angle of the camera to be a bit odd? When looking at it, in Portrait mode, like for a Hangout .. The angle towards you seems to be slightly "off" - anyone else?
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I don't complain much, but I'm with you on this one... Sadly, its just something I've come to expect on smartphones now days. I never understood why everybody puts the front facing camera off-center. WHY put it on the right or left side of the phone (when holding in portrait). Placing the camera off center like that makes using the front cam for video chats annoying, because when our holding the phone in perfect alignment to see the screen, the camera isn't center on you, so you have to move the phone so that the camera will be center on you and then the screen is not. Why can't they just place the camera at the top center of the device, above or below the speaker? Or at least a lot closer to center.

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I don't complain much, but I'm with you on this one... Sadly, its just something I've come to expect on smartphones now days. I never understood why everybody puts the front facing camera off-center. WHY put it on the right or left side of the phone (when holding in portrait). Placing the camera off center like that makes using the front cam for video chats annoying, because when our holding the phone in perfect alignment to see the screen, the camera isn't center on you, so you have to move the phone so that the camera will be center on you and then the screen is not. Why can't they just place the camera at the top center of the device, above or below the speaker? Or at least a lot closer to center.
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I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Because of the distance and degree of movement required (if any at all) it's really NOT an issue if the camera is off-set and not in the center of the phone.
Case in point, I just tried it. When looking straight at the headset grill and point that towards me, I'm dead center of the screen. The camera itself already takes into the account of the left offset in portrait mode.
Did you try it?
Most if not all who test this right now on the phone will see they are well centered when viewing the screen straight on...
That's why a lot of phones still off-set the camera to right or the left because it's a NON ISSUE

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I'm sorry but I just don't see it. Because of the distance and degree of movement required (if any at all) it's really NOT an issue if the camera is off-set and not in the center of the phone.
Case in point, I just tried it. When looking straight at the headset grill and point that towards me, I'm dead center of the screen. The camera itself already takes into the account of the left offset in portrait mode.
Did you try it?
Most if not all who test this right now on the phone will see they are well centered when viewing the screen straight on...
That's why a lot of phones still off-set the camera to right or the left because it's a NON ISSUE
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Haven't tried it on the Nexus 5 yet (it's "Out For Delivery" so it should be delivered any moment now), but on my HTC One if I did exactly as you described by holding the phone directly in front of my face looking straight at the headset grill, my face was not centered on the screen image. I had to line my face up perfectly center with the camera lens for it to show my face centered on the screen. This was with the phone held in one hand at a comfortable distance for video chat.

Mine is off center as well. First thing I noticed when I got the phone. It seems to be working fine so I won't RMA it but it does bug the crap out of me when I look at it.

Looks center to me
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mine is off center too- to the bottom right. doesn't effect pictures.

Fairly Intense Camera problems

Hey Guys,
I'm running the most recent firmware and have started to notice some fairly serious problems with white balance on my camera.. I honestly don't use it that much, but i hadn't noticed anything this bad. The problem is consistent whether I'm using Auto mode or semi auto and i've noticed that adjusting some of the settings makes it less intense but it's still present either way.
This first photo here was taken during a sunset the colour on the left is almost okay, the colour on the right is washed out and grey
Note the gradient , the left hand side of the the photo was under slightly lighter conditions (sun was over that way before it set): https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3ju8rxr5hok5hj/DSC_0279.JPG?dl=0
This photo here was outside during day: Note the sunlight actually flaring into the picture, this happens anywhere there is a lot of light next to solids:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rp517a7dcjc0r69/DSC_0281~01.jpg?dl=0
Any suggestions? Should i try to return this under.... warranty, actually are these things still even under warranty??
Cheers guys.

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Hey Guys,
I'm running the most recent firmware and have started to notice some fairly serious problems with white balance on my phone... I honestly don't use it that much, but i hadn't noticed anything this bad. The problem is consistent whether I'm using Auto mode or semi auto and i've noticed that adjusting some of the settings makes it less intense but it's still present either way.
This first photo here was taken during a sunset the colour on the left is almost okay, the colour on the right is washed out and grey
Note the gradient , the left hand side of the the photo was under slightly lighter conditions (sun was over that way before it set): https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3ju8rxr5hok5hj/DSC_0279.JPG?dl=0
The same edge of the photo turned grey as above:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vlmq9c8mpk5iz60/DSC_0267~01.jpg?dl=0
This photo here was outside during day: Note the sunlight actually flaring into the picture, this happens anywhere there is a lot of light next to solids:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rp517a7dcjc0r69/DSC_0281~01.jpg?dl=0
Any suggestions? Should i try to return this under.... warranty, actually are these things still even under warranty??
Cheers guys.
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Warranty depends on the country - if you can, it's better to get a replacement rather than attempt to fix yourself.

tomascus said:
Warranty depends on the country - if you can, it's better to get a replacement rather than attempt to fix yourself.
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Hey.... Thanks mate, i am not sure if it is something I can fix myself, or whether it's even hardware related, hopefully someone else see's this thread who can give me some insight into whether this is just bad BIONZ related or it's a hardware problem.

Anyone got any idea?

I'm not really an expert, but it looks like a flash bleed to me

Thanks for the reply mate... Unfortunately it happens anywhere there is a significant amount of daylight, with flash disabled same results unfortunately... I've noticed I get lines through the photos on macro shots if there is insufficient lighting too...
Would love to know whether this is a standard Z1 issue or a latest firmware issue or my camera is screwed? Also whether any of the custom roms address this?
cheers

The first image makes me think you might have some problem with your lens. Did you look at it under a strong light and check for visible damage like scratches?

That doesn't look software related, something's up with the lens or the glass that protects the lens. Is it smudged or scratched or anything?

nah it's definitely clean, routinely clean it... so looks like it's physically hardware related then. I had some water into this thing once, which they fixed by replacing the casing and cleaning... Is there anything which the water could have wrecked that they should have replaced perhaps?

codral said:
nah it's definitely clean, routinely clean it... so looks like it's physically hardware related then. I had some water into this thing once, which they fixed by replacing the casing and cleaning... Is there anything which the water could have wrecked that they should have replaced perhaps?
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Ahh water damage, they just cleaned it and replaced the case? I'm guessing the camera got affected as well. Usually with lenses if it comes in contact with any moisture it might get screwed up. Maybe they should've replaced the camera :/
How much water damage was there? Like, did a lot of water get in your device?

I don't think it was a heap, was enough to stop the thing booting, intermittently so I guess a bit... Might see if i can get it fixed under warranty then, given that my last warranty fix didn't address this current problem. Don't like my chances though, might be time to get a z3...

Pink camera spot issue/ color shading

Here's a thread I made on the Nokia forums: https://community.phones.nokia.com/support/discussions/topics/7000022066
"Here's something I noticed today - taking a picture in certain low light conditions produces a pink/reddish spot in the middle of the picture.
So far I've only been able to reproduce it in my own room, with natural light coming through blue curtains on beige/brown objects.
After doing some research, it appears this issue is rather well documented on many phones from different manufacturers, the Galaxy S2, S5, Xperia phones. Some sources say it might just be an issue with all smartphone sensors, referred to as "color shading", some just hide it better. My old Galaxy S3 appears to have it too, although nowhere near to the same extent. If I may, here's a couple links from androidcentral and xda of people talking about it.
What I'm wondering now is how widespread this is on the Nokia 8 in particular and whether there's any hope of having it better after a replacement. Interestingly enough, the front camera doesn't have that issue, even if it might be the same sensor (is it?), but maybe it's due to the optics too, which are probably quite different.
It also appears possible to compensate for it in the software, so I wonder what are the chances of that in case it's common on the Nokia 8.
I'll try adding a few examples I took in the comments. "
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They haven't approved my pictures there yet, so here's an imgur album - https://imgur.com/a/VccdP
Apparently it happens on certain black fabric and not only in natural light.

I replased my phone to new one for that reason...this was 6 months ago.
Its the sony image sensor issue same as xperia z3
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simon-sf said:
I replased my phone to new one for that reason...this was 6 months ago.
Its the sony image sensor issue same as xperia z3
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Btw its still there but not so bad...try to use iso speed under 600.

simon-sf said:
I replased my phone to new one for that reason...this was 6 months ago.
Its the sony image sensor issue same as xperia z3
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Btw its still there but not so bad...try to use iso speed under 600.
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So there are variances between devices then. How bad was your first phone and how much did the new one improve? Any chance you could try taking a photo of a worst example? Say black fabric in a dimly lit room.

The pink spot was clearly visible in mousebad...bow its better image from this one coming soon.

Nro:1 nokia camera app
Nro:2 open camera , iso speed 500
So its stil there.

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I guess that does look a little better. Maybe.. Difficult to tell how much the scenarios match. Either way, I've turned the phone in for warranty, will see what happens.

Can you update us what happens? I just got this phone too and have the same issue sadly though the local Nokia agent isn't a very strong one I don't think they'll replace my handset. Anyway anyway out of curiosity... What color are your phones that are making this issue? Mine is the copper and I think that's the issue some how

Today morning we look go worker nokia 8 128gb version it has pinky too.

angvil said:
Can you update us what happens? I just got this phone too and have the same issue sadly though the local Nokia agent isn't a very strong one I don't think they'll replace my handset. Anyway anyway out of curiosity... What color are your phones that are making this issue? Mine is the copper and I think that's the issue some how
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Mine was tempered blue. I very highly doubt the color has anything to do with it.
Nothing to say so far, will probably hear back next week. I'm only wondering if they got the idea that it's happening on all the pictures, as I only showed the bad examples and didn't note 'low light' in the problem description. I hope they're able to reproduce the issue themselves.

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Mine was tempered blue. I very highly doubt the color has anything to do with it.
Nothing to say so far, will probably hear back next week. I'm only wondering if they got the idea that it's happening on all the pictures, as I only showed the bad examples and didn't note 'low light' in the problem description. I hope they're able to reproduce the issue themselves.
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I managed to solve it by contacting Nokia support, they told me to hold the volume up button and power button to clear cache.
After that the pink shade went completely, I couldn't replicate it at all.
Another thing I was wondering is are the lenses exactly centered on the hole opening of the lenses? Mine isn't exactly centered
Look closely to the picture attached. Could this be the culprit?

My upper sensor not fully center.

angvil said:
I managed to solve it by contacting Nokia support, they told me to hold the volume up button and power button to clear cache.
After that the pink shade went completely, I couldn't replicate it at all.
Another thing I was wondering is are the lenses exactly centered on the hole opening of the lenses? Mine isn't exactly centered
Look closely to the picture attached. Could this be the culprit?
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Are you sure? I restored factory settings before bringing it in and it didn't change a thing.
And I can't really tell with the picture at an angle. I never noticed anything like it on my phone. Not completely centered across the length of the phone or the width?

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Are you sure? I restored factory settings before bringing it in and it didn't change a thing.
And I can't really tell with the picture at an angle. I never noticed anything like it on my phone. Not completely centered across the length of the phone or the width?
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I did factory reset too that didn't help though! The volume up and power button helped though.
Not centered as in the lense itself inside the round circle isn't centered! Check the bottom lense in the picture I attached. The lense is slightly shifted downwards

angvil said:
I did factory reset too that didn't help though! The volume up and power button helped though.
Not centered as in the lense itself inside the round circle isn't centered! Check the bottom lense in the picture I attached. The lense is slightly shifted downwards
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Sounds almost too good to be true, but I've got no way to test it out right now. Any chance you could take some pictures where it would've been visible before? Say a black mouse pad or whatever.
Yeah, I can see that. May have to do with where the sensor rests since that's the stabilized color one? Try seeing how it is when taking a video.

I got my phone back. Of course, the service center couldn't replicate the issue. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as it's not easy to notice, even if I did try explaining the situations where it's the most visible. Oh well. I never noticed it on my SIII in four years, though it's not as clear, so I guess I'll just live with it.
Also clearing the cache made no difference no matter how many times I tried.

So its still there?

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So its still there?
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Yes, nothing changed. I got my old phone back, not a new one, just to clarify.

I am going to make sure that repair nan can see the spot in my phone...modules are going to chance so many times that there is no pinky.

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I am going to make sure that repair nan can see the spot in my phone...modules are going to chance so many times that there is no pinky.
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Good luck. I'm honestly doubtful you can find one with no pink spot. Maybe minimally visible at best.