Last night i was messing with my voltages at the lower spectrum of cpu speeds, 384mhz to be exact, when i discovered that i can bring on the issue of the gray bars when the screen goes off. And i can reproduce this every time. If i drop my voltage at 384mhz below 800mV, then i experience gray bars with the screen off. of course i see them for a few seconds when the screen goes on, so i know it happens.
Ive been reading about people having issues with gray bars when the screen goes off for a long time now. Im really curious if these people are undervolting the 384mhz step, or have it undervolted by default in their rom/kernel. Anyways, i just wanted to let everybody know what i found, it might prevent some headaches for some people. So, if you are one of these people that are getting the gray bars at screen off, try raising your voltages some at the 384mhz step. Thats all
the not receiving email/messages when the screen is off relates to this as well.
Nice findings simms!
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748/245
Temp < 50C 245/245 100
Screen Off 245/245 90
Charging/Full 719/245 80
Battery <40% 604/245 70
All ondemand
Temp > 42.1 528/245
Screen Off 528/160
Charging/Full 768/768
Battery <100% 768/245
that's listed by priority
Hungry Man said:
Temp > 42.1 528/245
Screen Off 528/160
Charging/Full 768/768
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Screen Off: 245-480
**Stock is 245-245. 160 as a minimum seems to produce a LOT of wait time from when the call is coming in to when the phone lights up. More than 245 seems to whack the battery.
Keep in mind, when you wake up your phone, this Screen Off SetCPU Profile is active for at least a SECOND or two. The problem is that if you have your maximum at 245, you experience BAD lag trying to pull the lock bar down. At 245-480, the maximum is high enough that a) the lock bar pulls down as smoothly as a stock Eris, and b) even if SetCPU takes a couple of seconds to change the profile, at least you're at 480mhz for the first scrolling of the screen left/right (so you don't embarass yourself in front of iphone users). Anything higher than 480mhz is a different voltage. Almost the whole time your phone is 'Screen Off', it will be operating at 245 anyway. So 480 is a good setup for it to jump up when a call comes in (to play the ringtone and show the picture a little faster, and for the lock screen bar to pull down smoothly, and the first second of SenseUI to be smooth enough, until your phone changes the profile to your <100% profile.
Battery <100% 245-806
** Zanfur's take on how this processor clocks up/down its speeds will lend itself to a general wisdom that 768mhz isn't really slower than 806mhz, and that in instances of high variability of clock speed (aka you have some Power Save bias in SetCPU keeping it lower/higher at random, or you're doing very intermittent tasks), the processor rests at 768mhz more quickly, and wastes less time/'effort' changing speeds. Changing to 806 is another 'step' altogether, where 245 to 528 is one 'step', and that to 768 is another 'step'. Going to 806 is absolutely another step yet after that (which means your phone responds a LITTLE slower because it has one more step to 'throttle' up to). BUT, if you're doing a dedicated task, such as running a Linpack benchmark (which is a terrible benchmark anyway) your phone will move faster at 806, or if you're playing a game, or playing a video... generally the processor will stick at one speed (and not have to 'step' up or down), so 806 is faster. I clock friends' phones at 768 to avoid problems, keep it clean, etc etc. Some people put the minimum here at 160mhz, but I feel that this is too low (and another 'step', just like 806 is over 768, 160 is another step down from 245).
Charing (any) 480-806
** I keep the minimum here HIGHER than when the phone is on battery, because I'm less concerned about how much energy it's consuming, and having a minimum of 480 makes the phone very snappy no matter what, from the second you touch it
Overheating > 48C 122-528
** Clock speed here matters a LOT less than just getting your phone out of the heat. This phone doesn't overheat because it's overclocked, it overheats because you run it at an overclocked speed for a long time. MOST overheating instances are from wireless tethering and from broken charging systems (that keep trying to charge the battery and generate a lot of heat). The 'Failsafe' profile here provides a 'notification' option which I HIGHLY recommend.
My ex-gf's Eris actually CAUGHT FIRE, as in it looked like it was a zippo, right above the volume buttons. It used to overheat EVERY NIGHT that it was on the charger, excessively, so hot that you couldn't touch it. For a month or two it did this, actually, and caused no real damage to the phone. Since the night of the Flame (you can actually see the melted plastic and even on the outer case - she has a blue snap shell case on it that is melted as well), the phone has NOT overheated even one time on the charger. (Sorry for the story, it was a waste of time).
The point is that, the first time it happened, her phone System sound was on Silent, and she DIDN'T hear the notification that her phone was overheating. Apparently it doesn't matter (or she's very lucky her phone isn't damaged in terms of its operation!) how much it overheats for some people, but I like to have it warn me it's getting close to 50C. The notification's the important part there (so u can cool your eris), not the clock speed.
@pkopalek I like your settings you posted with a full description of each. I changed my settings to yours and give it a day or so and will report a status update as to performance quality
I've never lagged at 160mhz =p but that could just be my phones/ roms.
Hungry Man said:
I've never lagged at 160mhz =p but that could just be my phones/ roms.
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my audio skips and it won't wake up when in a call at 160mhz. I keep mine at 245mhz minimum to keep phone working smoothly.
What does the different prioritys mean? Is that like what one its.focused on more?
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How do you guys clock your CPU so high? Whenever I try anything over 729 bad stuff happens. If I put it on 748 it lags and if i try 768 it freezes up. You guys are all using the droid eris right? What ROMs and kernels are you running? I'm on Kaosfroyo
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How do you guys clock your CPU so high? Whenever I try anything over 729 bad stuff happens. If I put it on 748 it lags and if i try 768 it freezes up. You guys are all using the droid eris right? What ROMs and kernels are you running? I'm on Kaosfroyo
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When a processor is made at the factory, it will always have flaws in it. The chip is tested to see what frequency it is stable at. So that is the speed that is stamped on the chip and the frequency that it is set at to operate for the consumer and not have any problems. When you overclock a processor, you are bypassing the frequency that the chip as been deemed to be stable at. After that, there is no set speed that your processor can handle, because each one is different according to the flaws it might have.
So in short (what I'm trying to say), the processor in your phone just can't handle those without causing problems. That's why when you overclock it, it's kind of a trial-and-error process to see what speed you can get out of it, but be careful, because too high can cause permanent damage.
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Temp > 42.1 C: 480/245 Priority: 100
Screen Off: 480/245 Priority: 95
Charging/Full: 480/245 Priority: 90
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I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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I honestly don't think anyone has been messing with the CPU until the CM ROM is released.
hadookee said:
Long time lurker, but 1st time poster.
I've noticed on my Revolution that the CPU always runs at 1ghz. I thought CPU throttling was a standard feature in android?
Anyhow I installed CPU tuner and I get much better standby battery life now (~2% drain/hr when not using phone vs. ~5% drain/hr on standby). The phone runs mostly at 124mhz w the screen off. My problem is my revolution reboots pretty frequently and sometimes even just completely shuts down w CPU tuner on. I still get reboots once in awhile w CPU tuner turned off, but much less frequently.
Anyone else having this problem? I also have green power running in the background to turn off the data connection w the screen off. Are you guys who use setCPU not getting reboots? If so I'll spend the $2 and give that a try.
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As far as I've seen, the Revo's CPU does automatically speed scale to the necessary load.
If you're running lots of apps in the background, with the screen on Android will keep the cpu at full throttle to provide a smooth experience for you.
As soon as you turn off the screen, it will throttle it down as much as it can.
If the phone's rebooting on you, that's because whatever cpu tuner is doing may be keeping the cpu speed too low for the demand of the OS, then the watchdog kicks in when it thinks the cpu is stuck in a loop. (watchdog wants to be petted every 30 seconds, if the cpu misses that, the watchdog reboots the phone)
I use setcpu and have no reboot issues.
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I use android system info to show the CPU speed. It shows the % of time my revolution is running at each speed. W/o using a 3rd party app it always shows 100% at 1Ghz. W CPU tuner running it shows 50% at 122Mhz, 25% at 1Ghz, and 25% in between.
I don't think I'm running any apps thats sucking up a lot of CPU. I'm rooted w most of bloat removed.
Am I the only one not seeing any CPU throttle on stock?
i'm not seeing any throttling on stock.
setcpu drastically improved battery life when the phone's off, and no reboot issues.
some issues initially with the phone not throttling back up quickly enough when i got a call, making me unable to answer the call, but played with the settings and made it so it automatically throttles back up to 1024 when i get a call, and now it's fine.
Exactly Im much happier with my phone now. I had the same issue when I received a call but set up the profile as u did and have no problems at all
newkick said:
i'm not seeing any throttling on stock.
setcpu drastically improved battery life when the phone's off, and no reboot issues.
some issues initially with the phone not throttling back up quickly enough when i got a call, making me unable to answer the call, but played with the settings and made it so it automatically throttles back up to 1024 when i get a call, and now it's fine.
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I am using setCPU as well with no issues. I have mine set were the screen is off it goes to 124 and clocks back up to full 1GHz when it is on. Helps greatly improve my battery.
So what settings do you use? I get really bad lag when waking my Revo. Sometimes it will reboot after waking too.
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I don't know if this is a CPU throttling issue, or a general REVO issue, but I get horrible horrible lag sometimes trying to get any programs to respond. Like press the home key, or click send, or anything like that. I'm running Decrap 1.1, I don't know if I have too many processes running or what.
Interesting. The Thunderbolt has the same issue. Is it the same CPU in that phone?
Hey guys,
I just wondered if you guys have the same problem that you lose 1% battery every 2 minutes when you´re having your display on. I know it´s quite known that big screens suck the battery like a vampire but that´s just odd, because I don´t even have to do anything with the phone just staring at the activated display.
I´ve had these troubles from the beginning with FW 10G then updatet to 10H and did factory reset- nothing changed. I tried different brightness levels without any differences in battery consumption, which is totally uncommon. And the freaky thing is there is no difference whether I have airplanemod on, wifi turned off and so on. It is always the same... Although when the display is off there is as good as no consumption but really 1% battery per 2 minutes that´s just sick. I can´t believe it.
Now i wondered if this is normal or if I should turn it to the customers service to check it.
Please tell me if you explored the same things with your LG 4X HD
Well i found it odd too but if you would root the phone and install something like setcpu you would actually see
Min CPU Freq --------------- 1.5 GHz
Max CPU Freq -------------- 1.5 Ghz
Er yeah .... after saying that i think you know why its using the battery so fast. I rooted my brothers phone and changed the clockspeeds , but no matter how low i set the min freq on "no frills cpu control" it always shows on the toast message 750 Mhz or somewhere around that.
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Well i found it odd too but if you would root the phone and install something like setcpu you would actually see
Min CPU Freq --------------- 1.5 GHz
Max CPU Freq -------------- 1.5 Ghz
Er yeah .... after saying that i think you know why its using the battery so fast. I rooted my brothers phone and changed the clockspeeds , but no matter how low i set the min freq on "no frills cpu control" it always shows on the toast message 750 Mhz or somewhere around that.
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Well thank you... I´ve rooted it and thought it had something to do with apps running in the background but it didn´t help at all so I thought this can´t be, mine must be wrong somehow.
Especially because i haven´t heard anything in reviews or forums about this rapid battery drain. This is something I´m wondering most, how can a phone taking so much battery be rated so high It sucked 3% watching a 3 minute video on youtube...
I won´t think I´m going to be happy with this phone and the best is when I contacted customers service later today they told me to send it in because its not normal, but now that you said the cpu is set this high no matter what, I can just suggest they don´t know anything about their phones...
Bet the only reward I get sending it in is "all is fine our phone likes to suck your battery, so what? Just keep the display off"
Screen off "deep sleep" battery drain is quite bad too ..
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Screen off "deep sleep" battery drain is quite bad too ..
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For me. The battery says its fully charged after 1hr. But it actually takes 3-4hrs befire it reaches the absolute full capacity.
Battery lasts twice as long then...
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Hello, I'm using Titan Stock ROM and it was working quite OK, but I noticed that with high CPU usage during longer periods of time (Like when you are calling on Skype with both webcams on) after like 5 minutes (depending on ambient temperature) the CPU throtling kicks in and you can barely end the call because the whole GUI of Android gets completely unresponsive.
Quick questions:
- What is the maximum "safe temperature" for the CPU to not break? 60ºC is way too less.. as it gets easily to that temperatures.
Now in hope of getting this a bit fixed I recently installed the "Stellar Kernel". I set the CPU settings as recomended on its kernel page (Undervolted to Min Freq. 98MHz and Max Freq. to 1190MHz). Now its just a nightmare. It overheats even quicker.. and when it throttles you can just pray to do anything.. (I changed finally to Min Freq to 385MHz but that doesn't helps much).
And on the other hand thanks to the underclocking the phone doesn't wants to wake up during minutes.. which is quite unpractical when somebody is calling you.. you can hear the phone ringing but you cannot accept the call because the phone doesn't want's to wake up. But that got somehow fixed putting it back to the Min Freq. +300Mhz.
Just want to know if somebody knows about some magic setting which allows the phone to function properly during longer time.. as far as I'm aware 1190MHz is the original maximum Freq. of this phone so no overclicking is done here. So it looks that the only way to have it working somehow decently is to underclock the maximum frequency and leave the minimum frequency high enough to work properly. I don't really care about battery anymore, as I just need the phone to be functional, and as it is now it's just not. Any advices? Thanks for any reply.
You probably have a hardware problem
rhp07 said:
Hello, I'm using Titan Stock ROM and it was working quite OK, but I noticed that with high CPU usage during longer periods of time (Like when you are calling on Skype with both webcams on) after like 5 minutes (depending on ambient temperature) the CPU throtling kicks in and you can barely end the call because the whole GUI of Android gets completely unresponsive.
Quick questions:
- What is the maximum "safe temperature" for the CPU to not break? 60ºC is way too less.. as it gets easily to that temperatures.
Now in hope of getting this a bit fixed I recently installed the "Stellar Kernel". I set the CPU settings as recomended on its kernel page (Undervolted to Min Freq. 98MHz and Max Freq. to 1190MHz). Now its just a nightmare. It overheats even quicker.. and when it throttles you can just pray to do anything.. (I changed finally to Min Freq to 385MHz but that doesn't helps much).
And on the other hand thanks to the underclocking the phone doesn't wants to wake up during minutes.. which is quite unpractical when somebody is calling you.. you can hear the phone ringing but you cannot accept the call because the phone doesn't want's to wake up. But that got somehow fixed putting it back to the Min Freq. +300Mhz.
Just want to know if somebody knows about some magic setting which allows the phone to function properly during longer time.. as far as I'm aware 1190MHz is the original maximum Freq. of this phone so no overclicking is done here. So it looks that the only way to have it working somehow decently is to underclock the maximum frequency and leave the minimum frequency high enough to work properly. I don't really care about battery anymore, as I just need the phone to be functional, and as it is now it's just not. Any advices? Thanks for any reply.
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acquire kernels and other que rooms have different governors Study on them and the Best That was enough pro you and your needs .
I think this will help you , give will take this need to manually change the clock all, the governor will operate according to its governor preferably .
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http://androidforums.com/threads/android-cpu-governors-explained.513426/
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Thanks if helped :highfive:
If you are into custom kernels and messing with CPU frequencies, governors and such, you should take a look here.
https://developer.android.com/studio/profile/dev-options-rendering.html#ProfileGPURendering
Basically, turn it on and scroll around some things, it doesn't work on chrome for me, but works on just about everything else. This tool has existed for a while, but I wasn't sure how to use it until researching, and I really wish I had figured it out earlier. Basically, you want the bars to stay below the green line as much as possible. Anytime they go above the green line, you are dropping frames and not running locked at 60FPS. Willing to sacrifice some battery, I ended up settling on 960mhz undervolted to 740mV as my min freq, and increased my touch boost to 1574Mhz. It seems to be a good balance between smoothness and battery life, I still got 5hrs screen time yesterday with these settings.