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Chromecast will not connect to my TELUS ROUTER

Chromecast wont connect to my telus router (Actiontec V1000H). I can't see any option to enable/disable AP Isolation. Is there any solution for this?
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mydrl said:
Chromecast wont connect to my telus router (Actiontec V1000H). I can't see any option to enable/disable AP Isolation. Is there any solution for this?
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How?

try changing the wifi channel the router uses

mydrl said:
Chromecast wont connect to my telus router (Actiontec V1000H). I can't see any option to enable/disable AP Isolation. Is there any solution for this?
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How did you fix this?

MadBob said:
try changing the wifi channel the router uses
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Good advice.
Remember that the WiFi bands (channels) are not exactly the same between countries. So if you're in a non-US country and your router happens to choose a channel that is not available in the US, Chromecast may not detect your wireless AP.

But Telus is Canadian, and Canada has the same WiFi channels as the U.S. (Canada and the U.S. necessarily share identical radio spectrum allocation).

DJames1 said:
But Telus is Canadian, and Canada has the same WiFi channels as the U.S. (Canada and the U.S. necessarily share identical radio spectrum allocation).
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Didn't know that. Thanks! Still applies to other countries though. I think Channel 13 is one of the channels that applies to Europe but not US. I should put it in the FAQ...
EDIT: Seems there's far less exclusion than I thought... but added a note in the FAQ just in case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WLAN_channels

So I can get through the setup phase up until the Chromecast tries to connect to my wifi network. I get a message saying it couldn't connect, and when I click the link in the message it brings me to a page that mentions AP filtering, UPNP enabling and .NET 3.5. I checked and UPNP is enabled, and I can't find an option for AP filtering (I have the Actiontech V1000h). I am using a Macbook pro.

Kipp34 said:
So I can get through the setup phase up until the Chromecast tries to connect to my wifi network. I get a message saying it couldn't connect, and when I click the link in the message it brings me to a page that mentions AP filtering, UPNP enabling and .NET 3.5. I checked and UPNP is enabled, and I can't find an option for AP filtering (I have the Actiontech V1000h). I am using a Macbook pro.
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In some cases you have to go through a couple of times. I just reset my Chromecast to test a few things and had to go through the setup twice before it connected to my WiFi.

Chromecast in Canada, on Telus
A friend lent me his chromecast. He uses an iphone and Shaw cable. I use a Nexus 4, and have Telus as my internet provider.
It was a bear trying to get chromecast to work. Tried 5 separate days. Got it to work and i could watch netflix/youtube on it about 3 times and played with it for a couple of hours each. That's the success.
The fail is that I had to trouble shoot more then 4+ hours to get it to work those 3 times. Reboot the chromecast. Reboot the router. Reboot my Nexus 4. Try my wife's Nexus 4. Try the Nexus 7 tablet. It was a horrible experience. I got the AP recommendation like the earlier post in this thread. I tried that. Tried calling telus and signed into my router to check that those settings were correct. As far as I understand it's a gateway 11n wireless router.
So my conclusion is change my internet provider to Shaw unless someone has a smart solution to this problem. The router says it's a 50ghz signal? So it isn't the 2.4vs 5.0 ghz signal problem that I've googled and read about.
Please provide some brains to my situation. I've used all of mine up.
bhiga said:
In some cases you have to go through a couple of times. I just reset my Chromecast to test a few things and had to go through the setup twice before it connected to my WiFi.
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Still not fixed.
So I took the plunge and bought one. Maybe it'd be different than my friends. Looks like this is a me problem. The chromecast still doesn't work. I thought it might be the tv that it's plugged into? Maybe shielding the chromecast from the wifi? I don't know. Will trouble shoot with a different tv or a long hdmi cable that will get the chromecast out from behind the tv. Maybe that'll help.

johnson2423 said:
So I took the plunge and bought one. Maybe it'd be different than my friends. Looks like this is a me problem. The chromecast still doesn't work. I thought it might be the tv that it's plugged into? Maybe shielding the chromecast from the wifi? I don't know. Will trouble shoot with a different tv or a long hdmi cable that will get the chromecast out from behind the tv. Maybe that'll help.
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TVs are great at blocking/scrambling radio signals.
Use the included HDMI extender. If that doesn't help (enough), get an HDMI extension and move Chromecast away from the TV. One of mine is on a 10-foot HDMI extension. The other is connected upstream of a another device that connects to my TV, so both of my Chromecasts are at least a foot away from its associated TV.

johnson2423 said:
So I took the plunge and bought one. Maybe it'd be different than my friends. Looks like this is a me problem. The chromecast still doesn't work. I thought it might be the tv that it's plugged into? Maybe shielding the chromecast from the wifi? I don't know. Will trouble shoot with a different tv or a long hdmi cable that will get the chromecast out from behind the tv. Maybe that'll help.
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It could be a few things not related to the router directly but related in how the Router connects to your ISP.
So a couple of questions...
What kind of service is your ISP? (DSL, CABLE, OTHER)
What Public IP does your router report? (Usually found on the status page that shows connection data) If it starts off 192.168 then your Modem is doing a double nat translation and you need to call your ISP and tell them you want the Modem to be put into gateway mode and just pass a public IP to your router.
Does the CCast actually connect to the Router but not work or will it not connect at all period? If it doesn't connect at all it is possible you need to change the Security method used to WPA or WEP. To test shut off security alltogether and try to connect the CCast. If there is currently NO security try putting WPA on and trying again (but it should work on an open AP)

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Asphyx said:
It could be a few things not related to the router directly but related in how the Router connects to your ISP.
So a couple of questions...
What kind of service is your ISP? (DSL, CABLE, OTHER)
What Public IP does your router report? (Usually found on the status page that shows connection data) If it starts off 192.168 then your Modem is doing a double nat translation and you need to call your ISP and tell them you want the Modem to be put into gateway mode and just pass a public IP to your router.
Does the CCast actually connect to the Router but not work or will it not connect at all period? If it doesn't connect at all it is possible you need to change the Security method used to WPA or WEP. To test shut off security alltogether and try to connect the CCast. If there is currently NO security try putting WPA on and trying again (but it should work on an open AP)
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Service is Telus DSL.
Solution: I changed the security settings. It still tries to stop the CCast from talking to my phone once in a while, but I just log into my router and log into the firewall settings. The firewall settings are "high, medium, low, NAT". It started working once I started turning it off of NAT and onto Medium or High.
I don't know why this is the solution, but it is a solution. I suspect that either Telus will fix the prolbem for everyone else or this thread will become popular. Now CCast is coming to Canada. So either Telus fixes it or there'll be a lot of searching leading to this post.
As a reminder, a friend of mine on telus never toughed his firewall settings and never had a problem with using his CCast. Go figure.

johnson2423 said:
Service is Telus DSL.
Solution: I changed the security settings. It still tries to stop the CCast from talking to my phone once in a while, but I just log into my router and log into the firewall settings. The firewall settings are "high, medium, low, NAT". It started working once I started turning it off of NAT and onto Medium or High.
I don't know why this is the solution, but it is a solution. I suspect that either Telus will fix the prolbem for everyone else or this thread will become popular. Now CCast is coming to Canada. So either Telus fixes it or there'll be a lot of searching leading to this post.
As a reminder, a friend of mine on telus never toughed his firewall settings and never had a problem with using his CCast. Go figure.
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Well if the Telus was set to NAT perhaps Double Nat Translation was the issue.
DO you have another router connected to your modem or is this one of those all in one Hybrids supplied by the ISP?

Asphyx said:
Well if the Telus was set to NAT perhaps Double Nat Translation was the issue.
DO you have another router connected to your modem or is this one of those all in one Hybrids supplied by the ISP?
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I have a friend that is struggling with this as well. While setting up the WiFi connection between the chromecast and the router (the Actiontec V1000H - which is a modem/router combo if that helps). The chromecast will see the WiFi, but it seems to time out while trying to connect to the router.
I did find a comment on a blog somewhere (sorry, I forget where) that suggests unchecking the "IGMP snooping enabled" option in the router (Advanced Settings>IGMP Setting). Once this was done, the chromecast connected to the WiFi without any issues and we were able to stream it without any issues.
However after going out for dinner we had major issues trying to connect to the WiFi on our phones and his laptop (laptop would try to connect to the WiFi but continually fail). It seems like this is a temporary fix at best.
The only permanent solution I can think of at the moment is to go buy a new router that is listed as having no issues on the chromecast compatibility list... Which kind of defeats the whole purpose of having the chromecast as an economic way to stream content to your big screen.

Buy a better router

I don't see why IGMP should have any affect on being able to login and connect.
I Can see it being a problem with streaming but not connection.
IS this an ISP provided Modem/Router? How many devices are connecting wirelessly?
Check settings for IGMP Proxy, Try changing that setting whatever it is but it should probably be disabled (Still don't think this would affect connection but it's worth checking)
Check if UPnP Is enabled (again not really connection related but it does need to be enabled for CCast)
I personally prefer to use a two device setup with separate Modem (in Bridge Mode) and Router....This way the Modem protects the router from the outside world and even if the Modem goes bad the Network still functions properly.
And I pretty much stay away from anything that isn't a Linksys or Netgear product as far as Routers are concerned.
There are a bunch of Actiontec models that are listed as incompatible with CCast on the google site so it's obvious that something about their firmware is not CCast friendly.
So the the previous poster may actually have made a good suggestion in the long run! LOL

I'm using the telus actiontech router with chromcast with no issues....
its a pretty crappy router though and it seems telus disabled the ability for bridge mode in the latest firmware... has anyone found a solution to this so i can buy a better router?
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nolook said:
I'm using the telus actiontech router with chromcast with no issues....
its a pretty crappy router though and it seems telus disabled the ability for bridge mode in the latest firmware... has anyone found a solution to this so i can buy a better router?
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As long as double NAT doesn't cause you problems, you can
Assign the new router's WAN port to an address in the ISP router's LAN range
Set the new router's gateway to the ISP router's LAN address
Connect the two routers LAN port to LAN port
Have all your wired and wireless clients connect to the new router.

802.1x

Why Google you no like college students?

Hmmm this probably raises a good point, it's a bit hard to implement something like 802.1x though on a streamer device (where authentication is required per login of network prior to you having the ability to control the device).
I don't see this coming for awhile to be honest unless someone manages to hack it in - I just can't see Google releasing the ability to cache 802.1x network credential sets unfortunately due to the security implications.

Friend of mine had to buy his own router to plug in to the colleges ethernet ports in the dorm. Solved a variety of issues they were having.
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fchowd0696 said:
Why Google you no like college students?
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Beyond the lack of keyboard/interface, large networks in general fear multicast and UPnP because they have potential to easily clog the network.
Also remember that Chromecast in its current state has little security - it's designed for use within a trusted environment.
You probably don't want to be in the middle of Twilight with your girlfriend and suddenly your Chromecast switches over to SpongeBob SquarePants because someone else in the dorm decided BobsChromecast obviously wants to show SpongeBob...
Having your own router and local network will isolate your Chromecast to just your little piece of the campus network, though double-NAT might be an issue, and you should check with campus policy on use of personal WiFi router/AP hardware.

I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
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ninepoint said:
I've got a similar problem. I use a studentnet, were I can either plug in directly into the wall and log in once every day or setup a router with a PPTP-connection to automatically log into the student-network. I've got the latter set up and it works like a charm.
Thankfully I had a rootable CC so I could set it to use my ISP's DNS but I would love if it if I were able to use a different DNS (aka Unlocator/Unblock) to enjoy the US-version of Netflix, but every time I change the DNS-servers my internetconnection dies.
Is there any way to actually do fix my problem? I know this is more of a network-question than a CC-one, but CC is included in the problem
I use a Netgear WNR3500LV2 as my router.
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First question is whether you can use a different DNS at all (or whether your ISP is blocking somehow).
Try doing a DNS lookup from another server on your phone/tablet via Ping & DNS or another app that lets you do that.
If that's successful, then it might work - go to the Eureka-ROM web panel at http://Chromecast_IP_addresss/ and turn off DHCP-supplied DNS, Apply, then select another DNS.
You will also need to force your phone/tablet to use the same DNS - otherwise your phone/tablet may be making requests from Mars, while Chromecast tries to retrieve stuff from Venus.

[Q] isp issues

So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Jared

theatomizer90 said:
So I got a chromecast for my birthday and was super excited to use it but it wouldnt connect to the wifi for my apartment complex. I called the isp and they block all cc, apple tv, roku ect. I spoofed the mac adress to my tablet to try to gain acees but it wouldn't let my tablet connect. Therefore I think it must be blocked by mac adress? Anyway I have a model h2g2 42 and would like to find a way to connect my device to the internet and use my new toy. Any help is appreciated.
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How do they know what device has what MAC? The only thing I can think of is they're doing some blanket blocking by vendor ID (which is part of the MAC)
Chromecast's vendor is Azurewave, so if they're blanket blocking devices that use Azurewave hardware, that's a LOT of devices.
More likely they're tracking and blocking unknown MAC addresses.
They could also be blocking streaming traffic, but Chromecast should at least be able to reach the Internet.

Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.

Can I ask whats your location what country??

Asphyx said:
Well one way to find out if it is Mac Address....
Clone the CCast MAC Address on your computer and see if it can connect.
I can understand them blocking the protocols needed to discover such devices but I can't see them blocking Mac Addresses cause that means well over a million MAC addresses to block.
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@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?

bhiga said:
@theatomizer90 said they spoofed the CCast MAC to their tablet and their tablet wouldn't connect.
So I'm guessing they're doing something like hotels do and somehow tracking MACs, individually adding them to their Allow list.
What if you call the ISP and just don't tell them the device you're connecting is a media player? How would they handle it if you just had a second tablet that you want to connect?
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I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
Truth is I would tell the ISP to GFT and stop blocking things I pay them to provide.
I bet there is not a single mention of blocked media devices in the contract which means they are essentially in breach for not providing Internet access.

Asphyx said:
I'm not convinced spoofing it on a Tablet would be as solid as doing it on a PC....
Especially if the PC is wired.
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If the PC is wired, it wouldn't connect to the building wireless...
but that brings up a good point - @theatomizer90 is there a wired Internet connection in your flat/whatever?
If so, you could just connect your own router and connect all your devices to that... The building's network wouldn't know about any of your individual devices unless it's very high end. It's the same as I do in hotels.
It wouldn't help if they're doing packet/traffic filtering though... again, same as hotels...

No hard line... such a bummer. I went and complained to the manager but I doubt anything will come of it.
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Krisshp said:
Can I ask whats your location what country??
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Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.

theatomizer90 said:
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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I get to play with enterprise-class routers from time to time and even they have limits. It depends on both the AP hardware (usually there is a maximum number of associated stations before things start going round-robin) and the router hardware itself as the overall traffic load increases.
Some folks in your situation (not specifically with Chromecast, but general connectivity challenges) have success using cantennas to use more-distant wireless, rather than their limited local infrastructure, but it really depends on the individual situation.

theatomizer90 said:
Sorry didnt see that. USA idaho. I am in an apartment complex that kicked them because they only have one router for the whole complex granted it is a beast it can handle 120+ connections. But the whole apple tv roku and chromecast added enough devices to that connection that it just overloaded the router.
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Well one solution that would work is to get yourself a travel router...
(An example not a recommendation as I have not used it do some research before you pick one) http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-WL-330N3G-Wireless-N-Mobile-Router/dp/B004OT05LC

The easiest thing to do would be to spoof a wireless access point, there is all kinds of free software to do it. Connect tablet to Wi-Fi. Spoof a wireless ap. Connect cc to spoofed Wi-Fi.
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Solution for ChromeCast without internet connection

Hello,
I want to show a dashboard on the tv in my company. The app is ready and it works fine ( checked it at home) but through the network policies in the company it is not possible to give the chromecast internet access. Is there a work around for the App id check ? The webserver is installed locally . The Cast should only show a website form the server.
Maybe it would be great if there is a solution without rooting it, but with a good guide it would also be possible.
Is there a way to manipulate the Google DNS ?
Greets,
Sissie

I have not seen a work around. I have seen this same question posted several times. I travel alot for work and when I'm in the hotels, I use my phone as a Hotspot to get my Chromecast to work. That is an option.
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Thats one point but is their a way to switch the call of the chromecast to his "start"screen in the router to a local "manipulated" website ?

sissiekron said:
Hello,
I want to show a dashboard on the tv in my company. The app is ready and it works fine ( checked it at home) but through the network policies in the company it is not possible to give the chromecast internet access. Is there a work around for the App id check ? The webserver is installed locally . The Cast should only show a website form the server.
Maybe it would be great if there is a solution without rooting it, but with a good guide it would also be possible.
Is there a way to manipulate the Google DNS ?
Greets,
Sissie
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If you have a phone with hotspot you could turn it on, connect the Chromecast to it, start up a cast and right after that, turn off your data so it doesn't eat up your data plan and you're all set. Hope this helps!

joeyakaspce1130 said:
If you have a phone with hotspot you could turn it on, connect the Chromecast to it, start up a cast and right after that, turn off your data so it doesn't eat up your data plan and you're all set. Hope this helps!
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Do we need to follow the above steps every time we want to connect cromecast as offline user ?
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joeyakaspce1130 said:
If you have a phone with hotspot you could turn it on, connect the Chromecast to it, start up a cast and right after that, turn off your data so it doesn't eat up your data plan and you're all set. Hope this helps!
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This needs Internet anyway, even if for a short time
I wonder if this can instead be done this way, with a rooted phone acting as tethered wifi hotspot:
- set CC to connect to the tethered wifi network on the rooted Phone (explained elsewhere)
- set the rooted phone to manipulate iptables (but how'? block? redirect to what?) DNS request to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 coming from the CC
This shouldn't need internet at all.

cleansafi said:
Do we need to follow the above steps every time we want to connect cromecast as offline user ?
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Yes, unfortunately
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giancapino said:
This needs Internet anyway, even if for a short time
I wonder if this can instead be done this way, with a rooted phone acting as tethered wifi hotspot:
- set CC to connect to the tethered wifi network on the rooted Phone (explained elsewhere)
- set the rooted phone to manipulate iptables (but how'? block? redirect to what?) DNS request to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 coming from the CC
This shouldn't need internet at all.
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Yea, it does... Not sure how changing the DNS server would help?

Setting up chromecast without WiFi

So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)

I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.

Asphyx said:
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.

exeLz said:
Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.

Asphyx said:
Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right

exeLz said:
To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.

Asphyx said:
Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.

exeLz said:
That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.

Asphyx said:
The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.

All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,

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Asphyx said:
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!

Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.

I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653

I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?