[Q] Personal Music Library and Smart DJ - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So after fighting with xbox music for a couple days with my new Lumia 928, I'm wondering if it's possible to use Smart DJ without having Microsoft completely destroy your tags? Coming from a Zune HD and Zune pass a couple of years ago I made extensive use of Smart DJ and was hoping to tap into that again(and auto playlists which I haven't done much research into how to get back if it's possible at all)
Is there a particular tag structure that works? I have my library setup with Artist + Album artist tags, year, genre, title, track, cover, only using ID3v2.3 tags in mp3tag.
A setting that I am missing?

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[Q] How to play .mp4 audio files (iTunes)

I have converted from an iPhone to the HTC Fuze. I still have some audio files that are .mp4. I am interesting in playing audio more than video. Can I get the stock player to play these?
If not, what is the best player to download (for free) for playing audio .mp4 files?
Thanks
If they are DRMed, you'll have to search on how to un-DRM them (I wouldn't ask about that here though). If they are not DRMed, you can play them in Windows Media Player.
I know about the DRM thing, but last time I checked, Windows Media does not play mp4. Am I wrong?
With regard to audio files from iTunes (m4a/AAC/mp4 or whatever you want to call them), they will play just fine via the music player interface in Touch Flo 3d. The only problem I've encountered is that for some reason the audio manager will not sort songs in track order. As yet I have not found a fix for this (and no one else seems to be asking about it either). Still, at least I didn't have to convert my iTunes library into MP3 files ; )
Purchased tracks will not play (in fact they will not even be visible).
Digital Rights Management (DRM) is a coding/decoding algorithm mainly used by iTunes to protect the artist and to ensure that the artist gets money for his work since you as a consumer ay have purchased a song or album online. All your own CD's which you may have read-in (ripped) through iTunes will play without any problems.
DRM files, though they appear as MP4 files, cannot be played without the appropriate decoder (iTunes for example).
Ways and methods HOW to bypass this mechanism MUST NOT be discussed here in the forum, do a google research if you interested in.
BTW same issues may happen if you go from iPhone to iPhone or transfer files from PC to PC even if you backed up your iTunes license.
You may bear an Apple store a visit or call Apples cust. support they can provide you with a special key that you do not have to purchase all your songs again.
Ouzo said:
The only problem I've encountered is that for some reason the audio manager will not sort songs in track order.
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Track sorting seems to be a general problem of the TF3D player. If you for example have an album which contains two CDs the TF3D player is not able to sort it correctly. It's stupidly sorting:
Track 1 CD1
Track 1 CD2
Track 2 CD1
Track 2 CD2
[...]
Therefore I'm using Pocket Player instead.
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Track sorting seems to be a general problem of the TF3D player. If you for example have an album which contains two CDs the TF3D player is not able to sort it correctly. It's stupidly sorting:
Track 1 CD1
Track 1 CD2
Track 2 CD1
Track 2 CD2
[...]
Therefore I'm using Pocket Player instead.
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Is there a way to launch Pocket Player from TF3D in place of the in-unit player?? I have been searching for an answer for a week here and found not a clue. Any help with this would be appreciated, otherwise I will just launch from programs as I am now doing, but it seems a waste to have a nice tab wasted!
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rac said:
Is there a way to launch Pocket Player from TF3D in place of the in-unit player?? I have been searching for an answer for a week here and found not a clue. Any help with this would be appreciated, otherwise I will just launch from programs as I am now doing, but it seems a waste to have a nice tab wasted!
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No, I don't think so. Unfortunately the only think you can do is completely disabling the TF3D player by removing it with AdvancedConfig.
I wonder if it's possible to at least get the Audio Manager to play tracks according to file name. At least that way if tracks were numbered 01, 02 etc that would get around the problem of it not seeing the track number in the tag.
Trouble is I can't work out how to do this.... I've been rumaging in the registry under HKLM\software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng but there doesn't seem anything obvious to me. Maybe a key could be added? Anyone got any ideas?
How about mp4 video?
It took 20 minutes to load a video mp4 file onto my microsd card, but it's there. Windows Media Player won't recognize it. The video player app portion of the camera will actually play the file, but it takes several seconds to launch and is generally choppy after that. It's a shame, too, because the video quality is great ... it's just very choppy.
Is there Windows Mobile player out there somewhere that plays these mp4 files SMOOTHLY? I knew the Tilt had issues with the driver not playing video smoothly, but I didn't think it was a problem with the Fuze. Sure would like to watch some quality video in mp4 mode on my Fuze rather than my video ipod.
I love this forum, alot of smart people here (usually).
To talk of disabling software or this drm would be wrong. But Itunes itself posesses a way for you to back up your music. Its totally legit, and a common problem out there. (itunes not playing on winmo or other devices).
So if its a totally legit way of using the itunes program itself, to simply create a backup of your songs... why is it so horrible to discuss?
No one is suggesting hacking or disabling the drm, simply getting the music they paid for to work.

We need a better mp3 player for android

I use my phone as a mp3 player alot but the software that came with android is very limited and does not give you enought options to use our phone as a fully funcional mp3 player. Like for example creating playlist, search songs by name or artist with the keyboard. etc.
I hope some developer is working on a better player...
You can do all of that you mentioned already. To add to a playlist long-press on a song and choose add to playlist and you can make a new one or add to an existing one. To search just slide out the keyboard and type it will return all results for artist, song, album, everything. Hope this helps
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You can do all of that you mentioned already. To add to a playlist long-press on a song and choose add to playlist and you can make a new one or add to an existing one. To search just slide out the keyboard and type it will return all results for artist, song, album, everything. Hope this helps
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thanks you right about everything. I just found something else I have every album in separate folders let say I would like to select just one folder to play that album only, is there any way to do that, because as far as I see the player looks for all the music files in the sd card and display them in the library together.
thanks
I don't think you can organize by folder but maybe try clicking album on the home page of the MP3 app? That will read all the ID3 tags of the MP3's and sort them by album to play. Unfortunately what sucks for me is a lot of my music files are .m4a from my iPhone which the G1 can play but I don't have album art or tags or anything and it blows because you can't add tags to them and I don't have the time to convert them to mp3. Oh well, hope this helps you!
i think we will see a lot more once paid apps come- coreplayer are working on an android version for one.
I just figure another issue, I create a folder with ringtones .mp3s and the player put them on the play list to This is crazy it should at least ask you if u want to add the new audio files to the play list. now I have 10sec ringtones playing on my playlist
I'll pay for a player with all the features that an audio player should have.
What folder are you putting your ringtones in?
I have my ringtones in a folder named 'ringtones', my notifications in a folder called 'notifications' and the media player doesn't pick any of them up.
One thing for sure, Shuffle blows for some odd reason. It's always the same damn order! The only way to get something different is to Shuffle -> Party Shuffle. This needs to be fixed.
Also, it would be nice if they added the fast search (like in contacts, dragging letters on the right) to the song list, as well as speed it up quite a bit.
I'm not impressed with the MP3 player. I'm hoping someone is working on one that is a little bit more iPhonish, as I like the looks/usability of that. S2P for WindowsMobile nailed it.
Is there something wrong with tunewiki? maybe that is more to your liking?
I like the double click headset to change tracks, single click to pause/resume. Although i'm not sure if this functionality would exist with A2DP? It could do with a few more features i'll admit, but it looks fine to me.
Need an Eqaulizer
nuff said.
Samsung Galaxy 4.0 Android MP3 Player.
Samsung calls this an MP3 player, but it is really a great Android phone -- without the phone. The form factor is great for carrying around. I find I'm using it much more than my iPad to access email, listen to podcasts, watch videos, and more. The Gingerbread Android OS is snappy and easy to use. With Skype and Wifi, you get voice/video connectivity.
Samsung Galaxy Player 50
Agreed. The stock app never allows me to view my playlist like the iPod does.
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Check out MKZIplayer.
Great for video and music
If you use a custom rom you can download "PlayerPro". Best MP3 Player.
(Or try "Apollo", its included in Cyanogenmod from FreeXperia)

BookDroid audiobook listener for Android

Absent Oy has published BookDroid audio book listener
for Android Platform
Want to take your audio book library on the go with your mobile,
but your phone doesn´t have a good player for them, well now you have.
Product homepage: http://www.absent.fi/mobile/bookdroid
BookDroid audio book listener features are:
* Player portion designed audio books in mind
* Supports all audio files that Android platform supports
* Contains personal audio book library, where you can
add/remove/modify audio books
* No matter if your audio book is in a single file or multiple
files, you can combine them into one audio book
* Supports bookmarks in audio books
* Auto save keeps the right position whether application is
shut down unexpectedly
* Undo button remembers last position if mistakenly you
seek or skip while listening
* Supports skip seeking (with configurable skip step) and
track seeking
* You can download thousands of royalty free books straight
within the application
* Downloads can be either audio files, or zip files, which BookDroid
automatically extracts them if they are archives
* Audio books can be transferred through USB or similar method
to device´s memory card (just like music)
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Wrong forum; this should be in Apps & Games.
There is an app on the market called Books WordPlayer that is free and has many royalty free books available. How is this different than WordPlayer?
edit: this is an honest question, not meant to bag on your app at all. I'd be interested if it is worth the money.
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Jay652 : Sorry about this, can moderator move this to correct position?
tekkitan : Thanks for showing interest If I read correctly WordPlayer reads ebooks from texts. BookDroid is quite the opposite, it's audio book player, meaning that it is a media player focused on features for audio books. Many mp3 audio books are really long(8-20 hours) or they are chopped into many files(~100 mp3s). BookDroid aims to ease listening to audio books and specializes to features such as time skipping, autosave, undo skipping, bookmarks, collecting mp3s into one big entity etc. to make audio book listening as much comfortable as it can. Using regular media player with audio books is ockward at best.
Hope I clarified what BookDroid really is
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Hi!
Jay652 : Sorry about this, can moderator move this to correct position?
tekkitan : Thanks for showing interest If I read correctly WordPlayer reads ebooks from texts. BookDroid is quite the opposite, it's audio book player, meaning that it is a media player focused on features for audio books. Many mp3 audio books are really long(8-20 hours) or they are chopped into many files(~100 mp3s). BookDroid aims to ease listening to audio books and specializes to features such as time skipping, autosave, undo skipping, bookmarks, collecting mp3s into one big entity etc. to make audio book listening as much comfortable as it can. Using regular media player with audio books is ockward at best.
Hope I clarified what BookDroid really is
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Thanks, you did.
I'd try it, but the Android market lets your refund apps you don't like. Can't do that from an untrusted source.
I am using an audiobook player I got from the Android Market called Ambling BookPlayer. It lets you combine multiple audio files into a single audiobook which it treats just the same as a single audio file for playing and bookmarking. It also has a bookmarking history feature that tracks the positions where you start and stop playing and has undo and redo buttons that let you go back to where you were, so you can't lose your place. The free version of this player is called Ambling BookPlayer Lite and it can automatically download the free audiobooks at librivox.org. They have a web site that shows the features in the different versions that are available at http://amblingbookplayer.com/
There's this app too.
ttps://market.android.com/details?id=com.inzi.dreamland2&feature=search_resu lt
That seems pretty cool for a 99 cent app.
I uses motion or speech to determine if you are awake.
Has links to a bunch of free audiobook like Librevox.
I don't think it's a general media player though.
Still haven't found an audio book program I am completely happy with. I will check some of these out
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Still haven't found an audio book program I am completely happy with. I will check some of these out
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check out MortPlayer. I've been looking for a good audio book player. Here are some quotes I collected from various forums.
MortPlayer Audiobook Player. Best audiobook player I've used on any device, and it's free.
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MortPlayer is one of the better dedicated non-DRM audiobook players.
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MortPlayer plays & lists files in correct order. Has every option I can imagine!
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MortPlayer allows you to add bookmarks to the track you’re listening to, so that when you return to your audiobook (from a selection saved on your microSD card) you can carry on from where you left off!
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mydiamarks
check out mydiamarks you can find them on the android market.
Bookmarks all local media (including audiobooks) and even YouTube videos. They even have other clients that android can synchronize with.

Media Manager for Android - They all Suck

So my father and step mother recently got new Android phone, they both got Evo 4G's. My father has been working non stop to get his wife's music and audio books setup so that it's really easy to make playlist, sync them, play them back, etc. He has used WMP, had issues with that, so I suggested DoubleTwist. He messed with it and didn't like the interface, felt that it wasn't that intuitive. I decided that I would actually mess with dT myself so that I could see if it was worth suggesting to others. I found it pretty easy to make playlist and sync them and stuff, but there is one major problem with it, it ignores track numbers. I can't get it to show me track numbers at all, and can't get it to organize track in an album by track number, and if I drag a whole album into it's own playlist, it organized in alphabetical order, I can't get it to play by track number.
Next, I decided to mess with Motorola Media Link. I never even got to the point of seeing if it will work with my N1 cause I couldn't get it to sort by album, or artist or whatever when I clicked on the column header like would happen in Windows explorer. I can accept Motorola Media Link opening in artist mode first, but I should then be able to click a song, then go and hit the album column header and it will keep the fist song selected and resort the song by album showing the other songs in the same album above and below the original selected song, but that did not happen.
I'm not even going to mess with WMP anymore as I feel that is utter s**t when it comes UI. Doubletwist makes making playlist easy, but ignores track numbers, Motorola Media link doesn't sort things properly. Are there no other truly intuitive, easy to use, fully featured media player/manager for Android devices. I feel that this is going to make it difficult for Android devices to truly win over the hearts of iPhone users, who phone's just work. As much as I hate Apple's communist control over their platform and hardware, you have to give them credit for making a phone that even the technologically inept can use and work without problems
What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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What's wrong with just drag and drop your files? I think that's the easiest way. Don't even need any software, just plug in the cable, it pops up as mass storage, drag over your files to a folder, done
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That's what my father and I do for ourselves, but that's not a good solution for my step mother who's not good with that kind of stuff and really doesn't have any desire to learn that. The ultimate goal of all this is to make it as easy as possible for her so that she can do it all without having to ask my father how or have him do.
sosquidtaste said:
I made the iPhone to N1 jump recently myself and had some similar growing pains in the media management side of things. Although I only really care about music (not podcasts or audiobooks) and have some real anal retentive requirements for playlist management, I've found bTunes as my media player and iSyncr for media management to be a great combination.
bTunes copies the navigation of the iOS iPod app perfectly, but adds in on-the-fly playlist creation and editing under the hood.
iSyncr lets me copy over playlists directly from my iTunes account, and updates playcounts and everything when I run the program.
I'm not sure if those things will apply to your parents' needs as elegantly as they have to my own. But hopefully it might help!
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Thanks, I'll send the info to my father and see if that works for him. He's still trying to find a solution for the audio books though. He's does some reading on the Audible Android app that's in beta and it appears to be having issues, so he's leery of installing it. But hopefully the music aspect will work for him.
Playlists and WMP
I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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I am the father.
The biggest issue being able to easily have the playlists show upon the phone.
It can be accomplished with WMP by manually saving the play list as an M3u, then drag and drop that to root of the music folder on the phone, then you have to delete the auto generated WPl list from the pc in order to not have the play list show up twice in the play list list. This has to be repeated each time a change is made to the list.
Wish for WMP:
Allow you to set default play list file type.
For WMP to sync the list to the phone.
Thanks for any future help or advice.
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i use fusion media player, excellent for making/viewing/playing playlists.
i dont know what format playlists are saved as, but the playlist i made in fusion works in other media players as well, like google play music, es media player, and stock gingerbread music player app.
i never even touched the playlist files, not move them, not edit or anything, idk where the file even is and my playlists work on all above mentioned players. enjoy!

Music App & ID3 Tag Problems

Hi All,
So, I recently went through my MP3 collection and finally cleaned up all my ID3 Tags (Specifically Artist and Album Artist fields) using Mp3Tag which tags in ID3v2.3 which is suppose to be android friendly (which took HOURS). Now when I actually sync any large amount of songs to the device many (tons) of them many of them display unknown artist, which just cant be because they all have these fields filled in. Now I know the XOOM uses the MTP protocol and so I have tried using WMP and Songbird to sync over to the device as well as just using window's 7 explorer to copy files over to Xoom. In all cases as soon as the MP3's actually get on the device it self it starts reverting the metadata taging on my MP3's back to the way they were before I cleaned them up. I have no idea how. This is honestly driving me nuts. To test this out I have removed all tagging data from some of the files and manually refreshed it and it still happens. Any other music nuts out their seeing this, and if so have you figured out a way to get around it?
Thanks,
Jvward
PS I honestly love the Xoom even with this problem its my fav
what program did you use to do all your tag editing? i recently did this with my 120GB music collection (96% legal too) so i can sympathize with the amount of effort it takes. i have however, not experienced the problem you described.
drop one of the affected files into your dropbox and pm that long with the correct and incorrect tag data to me. lets see if i can duplicate problem.
I sent you all the info please let me know anything you find, this is driving me nuts lol.
Please let me know what program works best for getting album art for my collection.
having the same issues what a pain in the ass, have to edit in winamp/itunes! WTF
Actually check out STAMP ID3 Editor very easy and its adding everything to the correct folder, artist, album and album cover...let me know how it works for you!

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