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Is it just me or can this phone not do it?
On my iphone if I leave wifi on and turn the screen off, it will connect only when needed using the auto send/receive schedule.
My xperia no matter what i do just wont seem to send receive with auto send/receive set to 5 minutes, wifi enabled, and i turn screen off with power button (or even leave it automatic).
Does it work for anyone else or is this just the way the xperia works? It only sends/receives when it's awake, in which case, pretty stupid,cause i can just do it manually if i'm using it.
I think winmo only sends/receives over a cellular connection while the phone is asleep. Wifi on the other hand is disabled when the phone goes asleep in order to preserve battery life....so no sending or recieving emails over wifi with the device in sleep mode
sonus said:
I think winmo only sends/receives over a cellular connection while the phone is asleep. Wifi on the other hand is disabled when the phone goes asleep in order to preserve battery life....so no sending or recieving emails over wifi with the device in sleep mode
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That's really disappointing, it's a feature I had come to expect, thinking the device could atleast witch it on long enough to sync my email just like the iphone does before switching it off again.
guess my only option is to buy a data plan.
Try Advance config
Bottom right softkey "Menu" --> More Settings --> Connections --> Enable Wi-fi on standby mode
Ashwm said:
Try Advance config
Bottom right softkey "Menu" --> More Settings --> Connections --> Enable Wi-fi on standby mode
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Thanks, I have just tried this, but I see that basically what it does is prevent the wifi from sleeping on standby mode, which is going to kill the wifi I presume in a couple of hours.
I guess it's just not possible for it to do what exactly I wanted it to do which is to connect and disconnect when required, to send and receive, while left switched on and the phone is in standby.
I believe that even when the phone is on and wifi is on I think the normal wifi power save (middle slider position) switches itself off after an idle period to save power when not in use, "on" just means available for use, not necessarily powered up.
I need this too, could someone try a mort-script or something to connect to WiFi automatically and then send/receive emails every desired set hours? Think it is possible..
Well
I tried enabling this (and yes, the wifi stays on while asleep) and putting my power save slider all the way to the right, however, after waiting the set time for my auto send/receive (5 minutes) and infact more, it did not send/receive until the moment I woke it, so I don't know if it was just about to do it, or if waking it caused the update.
i will give it another go and see how it goes, if you say that the wifi does infact just sleep itself when idle it shouldn't harm the battery life too much.
Strange
Ok, after further experimentation, I got it to send/receive my email while sleeping with the mode set for standby wifi enabled, however, with the refresh time setto 5 minutes, it took almost 15 minutes to update.
15 minutes is about the time I want, but will it take more power if I leave it on 5 minutes, or will it take even longer still if i set it to 15 minutes?
I'll try leaving my wifi on for a couple of days and see how it goes.
Try the program rk-OSR. It can connect/disconnect wi-fi automatically only for synchronizing e-mail.
Thanks
maedox said:
Try the program rk-OSR. It can connect/disconnect wi-fi automatically only for synchronizing e-mail.
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Thanks, I'm going to see how it fairs over the next couple of days with the wifi set to work during standby (in terms of battery life) and if that doesn't work out i'll take a look at the app.
I don't know what it is but i just have a phobia of running extra 3rd party software on a phone that can only just about handle itself.
You pretty much have to run 3rd party apps on WinMo. In my opinion it's like using a normal computer with windows without installing any other applications. It's barely usable for anything at all without getting really annoyed.
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You pretty much have to run 3rd party apps on WinMo. In my opinion it's like using a normal computer with windows without installing any other applications. It's barely usable for anything at all without getting really annoyed.
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Yeh, but what annoys me is that my desktop computer is designed with the hardware to run its OS and a hell of a lot more, the hardware in this thing barely runs the naked OS, so I'm reluctant to add any more.
Anyway, after experiments it's been pretty much a total failure with the sleep wifi thing.
Looks like that 3rd party app will be my last resort, lets just hope it's unobtrusive and has litttle battery drain (aside from the obvious).
Failing that, it's either keep lugging around an iphone or get a data plan. Might sell the iphone to fund it.
You can't seriously consider using the iPhone for this. It's a toy.
I'm sure you'll be happy with rk-OSR.
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You can't seriously consider using the iPhone for this. It's a toy.
I'm sure you'll be happy with rk-OSR.
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You;re right, iPhone is a toy, but considering the problems I'm now having downloading email attachments (mp3) and the fact that it doesnt check my mail properly while sleeping, it seems almost worth carrying just to make sure I get my email without having to actively check for it.
I'll take your word though and try rk-OSR and hopefully find a solution to my attachment problem, then I'm a happy happy xperia owner in heaven.
Ok...but.
Ok, got rk-OSR installed and it is working perfectly if I use the "test" button. However, I put the device to sleep, set to sync in a couple of minutes, wait 5 or 6, wake it up myself and nothing. Even the log doesnt have anything after my test attempt. What could be the problem?
still wondering how to get the phone to do this... is it not possible for the phone to check emails while it's in your pocket? such a simple concept yet...
alias_neo and dinan, I found a solution!!! All you have to do is to install GProfile and this program called rk-OSR. You create a time-based profile (in GProfile) and choose a specific time (eg: 1am) to run rk-OSR. You don´t have to select anything else (wifi toggle, etc). Then you select the same time in rk-OSR (1 am) and in this program you select the wifi options. It worked for me.
Hope it helps you
Ever since upgrading to ATT ICS, my WiFi and Mobile Data connections both are turned on during the night. During the day, I don't run either. When I am at home, I use WiFi and then turn WiFi off and plug in the charger before I sleep. When I wake up in the morning, WiFi and Mobile Data are turned ON. This happens constantly for me.
The second thing I tried was not putting the phone on the charger for the night. Come the next morning, WiFi is ON but Mobile Data remained off.
Something is triggering WiFi and Mobile Data to automatically turn on. I can't seem to find the setting that is allowing this to happen.
With GB, I never had this issue. If I recall correctly, GB had a setting for the sleep period of the phone. I don't remember much else of what was adjustable in that menu and I can't remember if I set anything in there for GB and data. I cannot find anything remotely like that in ICS. ICS is bloody annoying me right now with these quirks.
I wish I could downgrade back to GB right now so I don't have to deal with data turning on during the course of the night.......
If you want to go back to gb look under the development tab for return to GB from ics. It's down a ways. Not sure what to tell you about the other issues but to try and reflash ics.
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Try Airplane Mode
Sounds like you have some app trying to make a connection to run an update. It's turning on WiFi and/or the Mobile Data connections. I'll check mine tonight to see what happens.
Try turning on the Airplane mode when you go to bed. Hold down the power button and select the Airplane Mode option. If that doesn't keep the radios off, something is really wrong.
I sometimes use the Airplane mode at night to conserve the battery, but since you're charging, that's not an issue.
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If you want to go back to gb look under the development tab for return to GB from ics. It's down a ways. Not sure what to tell you about the other issues but to try and reflash ics.
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I found the thread. Thanks. I just need to read about unlocking the bootloader now before proceeding. The only downside of downgrading is I will lose the ICS radio which is giving me such good signal strength. Before in my room at home, I would get 1 bar, now I get 2 or 3. LULz.
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Sounds like you have some app trying to make a connection to run an update. It's turning on WiFi and/or the Mobile Data connections. I'll check mine tonight to see what happens.
Try turning on the Airplane mode when you go to bed. Hold down the power button and select the Airplane Mode option. If that doesn't keep the radios off, something is really wrong.
I sometimes use the Airplane mode at night to conserve the battery, but since you're charging, that's not an issue.
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This happened since day 1 of upgrading to ICS. The only software that I installed were some games and utilities that I had on GB. I never had an issue with either data connection turning on.
I might try another flash of ICS but that would mean running it for a night without the downloaded software for a couple nights and then installing each one by one, night by night.
I can use airplane mode but not for long term. I need to be able to receive calls from work when issues arise during the 2nd and 3rd shifts.
This only happens at night. It never happens during the day which makes me believe something is happening during the phone sleep time. And there's no setting that I can find for the phone sleep time like GB. Grr.....
Why not just leave data on if u don't mind me asking. Can't be using that much data really
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Yep I have the same issue.
I have observed the data icon appear on the stroke of midnight. It takes three attempts to keep it off till the next time I use it, or when the damn thing turns back on at 23:59:59.
Spoke to HTC support, they advised to return it to retailer for them to examine it....WTF...lol
Regards
Paul
FPV-GT said:
Yep I have the same issue.
I have observed the data icon appear on the stroke of midnight. It takes three attempts to keep it off till the next time I use it, or when the damn thing turns back on at 23:59:59.
Spoke to HTC support, they advised to return it to retailer for them to examine it....WTF...lol
Regards
Paul
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We have two threads on this issue of WiFi and/or Data turning on at midnight. When I first found the missing voice dialer problem, I e-mailed HTC support. They responded to my e-mail and then a member of their escalation team called me. They recognize that this is an ICS upgrade issue. Of course, they don't know when it will be fixed.
If you have not already done so, log into HTC.com, go to Support and send an e-mail describing the problem. They need as much feedback as we can give them to get HTC and/or Google to fix these problems.
I am not surprised that the ICS upgrade broke some things, but the number of things surprises me.
Check your setting. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Check your setting. Drop the drop bar and enable Wi-Fi connection then touch the bar next to the off-on switch. Touch the icon next to the home icon on the bottom of the phone and click on advanced. See the screen shots.
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Doesn't help.
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Too bad. I noticed mine came on the first night after I installed ICS. Took awhile to find the settings I posted. When I found the settings and clicked on the one in the picture I never noticed Wi-Fi come on on its own since.
So I finally got around to trying Airplane mode. WiFi still kicks on overnight while plugged in.
vivid x2 - I had that checked to "Never" and I still have WiFi and Mobile Data coming on at night.
brucegil & FPV-GT - I will submit a support email ticket. I'm surprised there aren't more of us on here that are having this issue.
syrkel - I don't want either WiFi or Mobile Data on. If I'm not using it, why have it activated? All I need during the night is 2G voice so I can respond to work issues that may arise.
Just throwing another thing to look into. Try to reset the data counter and check it every few hours to see what apps are using the wi-fi data? Some of the apps even allow you to access the app settings from there as well. Check some of the app permissions and try disabling a few apps at a time that allow changes to wi-fi settings.
what a coincidence. i was just jacking around on my phone in class and found the advanced wifi option and there is a setting to keep wifi on during sleep. it has three options: always, only when plugged in, and never. hope this helps
Try installing a juice defender. It turns off data when your screen is off automatically. Also, (maybe only in the paid versions) you can set a night schedule for it to disable connectivity for a set time automatically. I have mine disable all data connections and go to silent mode from 12:30 to 8:30.
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what a coincidence. i was just jacking around on my phone in class and found the advanced wifi option and there is a setting to keep wifi on during sleep. it has three options: always, only when plugged in, and never. hope this helps
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I tested this last night. Before I went to bed, I turned off WiFi (Data remained on). On the WiFi advanced settings I had the Keep Wi-Fi on During Sleep setting to "Always," which is the opposite of what people here have mentioned. I plugged in the charger. However, I have my Vivid set to remain on while on the charger. So it technically never went to sleep. (Makes a nice night light.) At 2:30 a.m. when I woke up, the WiFi was not on.
Tonight I will keep the same settings, but I will not put it on the charger (I'm testing the 3400 mAh Mugen extended battery). I will see if the WiFi comes on during the night.
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Ever since upgrading to ATT ICS, my WiFi and Mobile Data connections both are turned on during the night. During the day, I don't run either. When I am at home, I use WiFi and then turn WiFi off and plug in the charger before I sleep. When I wake up in the morning, WiFi and Mobile Data are turned ON. This happens constantly for me.
The second thing I tried was not putting the phone on the charger for the night. Come the next morning, WiFi is ON but Mobile Data remained off.
Something is triggering WiFi and Mobile Data to automatically turn on. I can't seem to find the setting that is allowing this to happen.
With GB, I never had this issue. If I recall correctly, GB had a setting for the sleep period of the phone. I don't remember much else of what was adjustable in that menu and I can't remember if I set anything in there for GB and data. I cannot find anything remotely like that in ICS. ICS is bloody annoying me right now with these quirks.
I wish I could downgrade back to GB right now so I don't have to deal with data turning on during the course of the night.......
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I wonder if this is part of Googles data collection. I have gone through 3 vivid phones in the last 2 weeks (long story). I have seen this problem happen with no apps other than what came with the phone. My wifes phone (another vivid) does the same thing. If the phone is turned off for the night, turning the phone back on has the same results (mobile data is on). This seems to be a random problem.
When you allow Google's locaton service part of the message says that you are allowing Google to collect data even when no apps are running.
Just a thought.
I've been trying to figure out what's causing it...see my last couple posts here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589724
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I seem to be having an intermittent problem with notifications on my new Moto G, when using the device and a notification comes through everything works 100%, however I sleep the device by tapping the power button as you do, occasionally notifications will not come through and then I tap the power button and the phone buzzes and the notification light starts flashing like they just came through at that second (when the time on the notification shows as X minuets previous).
I can't seem to replicate this in any fashion, it seems completely random and effects all types of notification, Gmail, WhatsApp and also the Ringer from Android Device Manager.
The Ringer from Android Device Manager is where I first confirmed the problem, I was playing with the Android Device Manager locating my phone which was sleeping right next to me, it located it fine so I hit ring and it said 'successful' or words to that effect, but the device was not ringing at all, picked up the phone and woke it, it immediately started ringing. I tried it a 2nd time and the same thing happened again, the 3rd time it worked as designed.
I've tried restarting the phone and clearing the data of effected apps, but neither worked, a reset of the device is the next logical step but I would like to hear if anyone else has this problem or has any other solutions.
This is happening when the device is connected to WiFi (even while sleeping) with the mobile data either enabled or disabled, I have not tried what happens if WiFi is not turned on, because when I'm at home I want it to use WiFi.
TLDR: sometimes by random I don't get notifications until I manually wake the device when they did actually come through X minutes previous it just didn't tell me.
Try resetting it! I never had such a problem
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Droids king said:
Try resetting it! I never had such a problem
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Ok will do, is the 'Factory Reset' option in the menu sufficient, or is there something else I should do?
Check your advance wifi settings and also check Motorola Assist just in case!
sahil kaul said:
Check your advance wifi settings and also check Motorola Assist just in case!
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I have keep WiFi on during sleep set to Always, and Avoid Poor Connections and WiFi Optimisation both ticked everything else is off, I've never used Motorola Assist.
I'll untick Avoid Poor Connections but I doubt it could be that as I have very good WiFi signal where I am.
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I have keep WiFi on during sleep set to Always, and Avoid Poor Connections and WiFi Optimisation both ticked everything else is off, I've never used Motorola Assist.
I'll untick Avoid Poor Connections but I doubt it could be that as I have very good WiFi signal where I am.
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How about Wi-Fi optimization, its usually Checked. Uncheck it. It should work.
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How about Wi-Fi optimization, its usually Checked. Uncheck it. It should work.
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OK when I find out that Avoid poor connections being unticked is not working (which I've just had a notification suggesting it isn't) I'll untick WiFi optimisation, I'm hesitant to untick it right now as it says it saves battery life.
OK new development I was listening to music on the phone (the phone is sleeping) the song ended but the next one didn't start, as soon as I tapped the power button the next song started.
I'm going to try resetting the phone as soon as I get chance, I just need to use a voucher in an app first as I'd loose it otherwise.
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Reset the device today, my plan was to use the Recovery but none of the options would appear it would only display the Android laying down (even when pressing buttons), so instead used the Factory Reset option in the menu, only time will tell but fingers crossed it seems to be working OK now :fingers-crossed:
Let me preface this by saying that after changing this setting and 20 hours later with multiple separations of phone and watch, I have yet to miss a notification and battery life is much much better. My specific problems were: Watch would randomly stop receiving notifications. I would realize this after a few hours go by without any notifications and pull my phone out and see what I've missed. This would happen despite the Wear app showing 'connected' status. Another issue I had was giving a voice command and after a few seconds the watch would return a 'disconnected'message, again the Wear app showed connected. All of this under known working network connections, whether Wi-Fi or cellular. I was also experiencing what I feel is short battery life at about 14 hours per day. I've had and used the watch for two weeks now and have restarted it many many times.
The following is the ONLY thing I have changed since the major improvement in performance. I don't have the depth of knowledge to prove or describe why this worked for me, and maybe it wasn't the cause, but I (knock wood) have a perfectly operating watch now with the battery life indicating about 2 days remaining at noon today.
Go to Settings> Bluetooth> and select the settings icon on your connected device. Then select 'connection access' and choose 'automatic'. Mine defaulted to 'always ask'.. I'm guessing this caused a hangup with the connection between Wear app and watch leading to my problems.
Edit: I'll add that my phone is an LG G2 on 4.4.2 , rooted and running xdabbeb's Rom.
Edit 2: I reset my watch, synced the watch via the Wear app on phone and NOT the Bluetooth screen and now I'm running strong after two days. Made sure automatic was checked as well.
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I don't have that option in my bluetooth settings
I don't have any problems with mine so far but just checked my settings and it was on always ask.
Could anyone confirm what it should be set as? I have changed mine to automatic anyways.
Thanks for the heads up.
Phil
Not seeing that option in Android 5.0.1 on my HTC One GE. But I have not been having any of the issues mentioned in the OP.
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Here is a pic of the screen where you make selection. Always Ask is NOT what you want, which is what is pictured. Select Automatic. Sounds like this isn't available on Android 5.0 from what I see in responses so far.
I don't think I saw this option on any of the ROMs I ran, but there may be devices out there that have it and default to it, and this one would really break wear connectivity - so it may help someone someday.
I'm on 5.0, lg g3 and have both options.
Although i havnt had a problem with always ask and only switched it to automatic tonight.
Judging from the description, it will work as long as the watch stays connected, but a reconnect from the watch side would ask for confirmation (and could be possibly even silently denied under some circumstances).
Phone -> Watch = no problem
Watch -> Phone = problem
and it's possible (and likely) there are more connections going on than just the primary one, and if the connection is flaky there might be a dead one and a new one from either side...
you could just have been lucky, so far
My issues returned last night. I left my watch at home and went to dinner and out with friends, came back home after several hours. I left the watch in theater mode while I was out and over night. I woke up this morning, put watch on and realized the battery had tanked overnight and I was no longer receiving notifications, again, wear app showing connected. I looked at the battery graph for the watch and it is totally flat while I was out last night and appears to tank fast as soon as I got home and my phone was in proximity to the watch again. It's like it is constantly trying to handshake with the phone or something. The only thing that fixes this problem is a reboot of the Watch itself. I still think the connection setting was helpful because I have yet to see battery life like that or a solid link for that long. I would love to know what exactly is going on here. Bad hardware?
For the sake of comparison, I have android wear in my pull down bar saying 'connected, running sync loop' 100% of the time. It never goes away. Is this what everyone else sees?
That's what I have also since I own the watch.
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For the sake of comparison, I have android wear in my pull down bar saying 'connected, running sync loop' 100% of the time. It never goes away. Is this what everyone else sees?
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That would be because you have Android Debugging turned on in the phone settings.. Means nothing..
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That would be because you have Android Debugging turned on in the phone settings.. Means nothing..
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Nope, shows also when out of the box so without android debugging.
Just a normal operation notification
I just discovered another possible contributor to connectivity issues: I just tried to use my watch to voice dial and after multiple attempts I got the disconnected message. I took my phone out and Wear app says connected and I had full 4G signal. My phone is set with a pattern lock. After unlocking it and checking the above mentioned, I tried the watch again and it worked. Could locking your phone have something to do with these problems?
Good day everyone, I'm having a really frustrating problem since I got my phone a month ago. I hope I can get some help here.
From day 1 I've had issues with network on my WiFi. No issues connecting to it, no issues using the internet, let me explain. I first noticed it on MIUI Themes. That was the first thing I went into after setting up my phone. It kept saying "can't connect to network". I figured it was a bug and will be fixed in the 12.5 update (spoiler alert: it didn't). Then I started to notice during setting up of my accounts, discord, reddit, etc. that the login was incredible slow the first time. It would just keep loading when I hit next. Not long after, I downloaded a game and it refused to update saying "can't connect to server". I had to start the process with my data then switch back to WiFi. For clarity, once I'm in the game itself there's no issues, the stability never drops, I never lag, etc.
It became truly evident it wasn't isolated incidents when I would open one of my online shopping apps. It loads the main screen instantly but when I switch the tab to see notifications, the page would load but the notifications would take up to 30 seconds to load. If I clicked on it, the next page would take another 30 seconds to load. Since I've used this app on my previous phone/ipad on the same WiFi I could tell there was something wrong. It should be instant. I opened up MI Community app and I kid you not, it must have taken me 10 - 15 minutes to create an account with all the loading/lag. Every single time I open the app, it takes at least 40 seconds to a minute to load with other pages lagging as well.
I started this long process of trying everything I could find that talks about it which was not much and usually about older phones. I tried everything I could find except factory reset (some have said it doesn't fix it after trying it themselves). I tried all the WiFi adjustments, traffic mode, off private DNS, developer mode options, and obviously reset networks/router/reboot multiple times.
After spending a couple of hours trying to find every mention of this whether it's Youtube, websites or Reddit and trying them (I would switch them back to default after testing the suggestions as they didn't work), my PC started giving WiFi problems. It NEVER gives problems but I figured maybe it was due to the turning on/off router multiple times. I was so frustrated, I was like, screw this I'm done.
I restarted my PC and switched to my PS4 (which runs on the same WiFi with no issues ever in 3 years). As my PS4 booted up, I picked up my phone to check the delivery status on my shopping app and BAAM! For the first time since I downloaded the app, my notifications appeared instantly like it should, the next page loaded immediately. I was like, hold up... I went into MI Community app and BOOM! it loaded immediately, I was shook. One final test, MIUI Themes that has never worked properly since day 1 with its constant "can't connect to network". BLAAM! Every page, instant, clean sweet speed. It felt like a whole new phone, like the new phone that I was supposed to feel all along.
I enjoyed a good 6 hours of bliss, constantly checking my shopping status just as an excuse to enjoy witnessing the speed. He giveth and then he taketh away and as luck would have it, there was a power outage midday. When the power was back on and the WiFi was up, we were back to the suffering. I tried to restart my PC as that was the key trigger and it worked for about a minute and then was the end of it. No amount of shutting down / restarting PC/router fixed it again.
There's something blocking the connection between my router and phone I believe. I figured the initial restart PC fix stopped the connection to the PC and gave the priority to my phone, if you will. That's rubbish I know because my WiFi runs on 4 other devices and never lags.
I'm no tech expert, in fact, I'm the opposite of that, it's embarrassing. I hope y'all can see something I'm unaware of and guide me. I'm certain the phone isn't defective and my WiFi is fine on every other device not to mention it ran flawlessly for 6 hours while other devices were also using the same WiFi.
If you've read this far, thank you very much. I apologize the post is very long, I wanted to get everything in so it paints a clear picture of the issue. I'll add a TLDR just incase.
TLDR: WiFi issues from day 1 in 2/3 of apps mostly with initial connections. 1 month later a chance restart of my PC fixed it. Power outage later that day, problem returned.
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