Hello I have been having a problem that two of my kindle fire 2's have been experiencing after a rooting on the latest 10.2.4.. The problem has to do with location services and the fact that now after the root the location is never able to be determined. I have verified using the weather channel app as well as flixster that before the root when I turn on location-based services the location is able to be determined and after its not. Some things you guys may want to know is that I have installed google playstore and I notice that after you go through the process of adding the playstore and new toggle appears in location-based services that says Location & Google Search I have tried leaving that off as well as leaving that on and both ways no location is able to be determined. So I am wondering is there a way to fix this?? Is anyone else experiencing this problem??
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Hello I have been having a problem that two of my kindle fire 2's have been experiencing after a rooting on the latest 10.2.4.. The problem has to do with location services and the fact that now after the root the location is never able to be determined. I have verified using the weather channel app as well as flixster that before the root when I turn on location-based services the location is able to be determined and after its not. Some things you guys may want to know is that I have installed google playstore and I notice that after you go through the process of adding the playstore and new toggle appears in location-based services that says Location & Google Search I have tried leaving that off as well as leaving that on and both ways no location is able to be determined. So I am wondering is there a way to fix this?? Is anyone else experiencing this problem??
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Any input on this?? Would like to know if location services are broken when you root. Thanks.
ComputerSteve said:
Any input on this?? Would like to know if location services are broken when you root. Thanks.
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WiFi Location Fails On Kindle Fire 2 After Root of 10.2.4
ComputerSteve said:
Hello I have been having a problem that two of my kindle fire 2's have been experiencing after a rooting on the latest 10.2.4.. The problem has to do with location services and the fact that now after the root the location is never able to be determined. I have verified using the weather channel app as well as flixster that before the root when I turn on location-based services the location is able to be determined and after its not. Some things you guys may want to know is that I have installed google playstore and I notice that after you go through the process of adding the playstore and new toggle appears in location-based services that says Location & Google Search I have tried leaving that off as well as leaving that on and both ways no location is able to be determined. So I am wondering is there a way to fix this?? Is anyone else experiencing this problem??
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ComputerSteve,
I have heard two problems on the Kindle Fire 2 10.2.4, one is the loss of WiFi after Root and two is the loss of Location Based Services after Root both seem to be the way they were Rooted. OK, let's get to your issue. Let's first have you clear the Data on everything having to do with the Network. Pull down the upper status bar, then select More+, find Applications, then Installed Applications. Clear the Data on all the Network or Location Based Services. Then download and install Titanium Backup free edition: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup. Once you have Titanium Backup installed, launch Titanium Backup and find the Setting Menu on the Top Right Side of the interface, select Clean Up Davlik cache....Answer Yes to the prompt, then Reboot the Kindle. Did the service wake up? If no, have you installed any application after Root? Anything? The other fix I have seen works is to go to the Kindle Menu More+ by pulling down the status bar, find Location Based Services, uncheck them, reboot and wait about 10 minutes for the Kindle to wake up all services, then go back to More+ Location Based Services and check the boxes again, the idea here is to Restart the service like you would in Windows or Linux.
Please let us know if this helps you.
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
I have heard two problems on the Kindle Fire 2 10.2.4, one is the loss of WiFi after Root and two is the loss of Location Based Services after Root both seem to be the way they were Rooted. OK, let's get to your issue. Let's first have you clear the Data on everything having to do with the Network. Pull down the upper status bar, then select More+, find Applications, then Installed Applications. Clear the Data on all the Network or Location Based Services. Then download and install Titanium Backup free edition: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup. Once you have Titanium Backup installed, launch Titanium Backup and find the Setting Menu on the Top Right Side of the interface, select Clean Up Davlik cache....Answer Yes to the prompt, then Reboot the Kindle. Did the service wake up? If no, have you installed any application after Root? Anything? The other fix I have seen works is to go to the Kindle Menu More+ by pulling down the status bar, find Location Based Services, uncheck them, reboot and wait about 10 minutes for the Kindle to wake up all services, then go back to More+ Location Based Services and check the boxes again, the idea here is to Restart the service like you would in Windows or Linux.
Please let us know if this helps you.
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I tried what you suggested. I cleared the Davlik cache and also toggled the location services.. and it didn't work. The interesting thing is that location works only in certain apps for instance if I go to google.com on opera mobile or maps.google.com in opera mobile the location works but if I use Silk and do the same thing it doesn't work it says that my location could no be determined. Now I know that there is something wrong with this because this is my 4th kindle fire HD I keep returning the ones before thinking that something was wrong but now I see that after a root the location services gets messed up. I hope that there is some type of fix for this. But so far I have tried restoring the device, rerooting, clearing the Davlik cache, adding NetworkLocation.apk which most of the time you cant get to install only one I found would install the once from the MoDaCo Custom ROM for the original kindle fire however that still didn't work. The way I rooted was with the instructions located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117 The device is rooted and I verified that with suchecker. My conclusion the Location Services get messed up when You root.
No WiFi Location On Kindle Fire 2 After Root of 10.2.4
ComputerSteve said:
Hello I have been having a problem that two of my kindle fire 2's have been experiencing after a rooting on the latest 10.2.4.. The problem has to do with location services and the fact that now after the root the location is never able to be determined. I have verified using the weather channel app as well as flixster that before the root when I turn on location-based services the location is able to be determined and after its not. Some things you guys may want to know is that I have installed google playstore and I notice that after you go through the process of adding the playstore and new toggle appears in location-based services that says Location & Google Search I have tried leaving that off as well as leaving that on and both ways no location is able to be determined. So I am wondering is there a way to fix this?? Is anyone else experiencing this problem??
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ComputerSteve,
The solution depends on the method you used to install Google Play Store on the Kindle Fire 2. Was it our method here (we use signed APK's):
[ROOT][HOW TO] Install Google Play Store Noob (Simple) Version
I would like you to download our Google Apps Pack here: Download ICS Google Applications
Extract the package and find OneTimeInitializer.apk and NetworkLocation.apk, move these two to the /system/app folder on your Kindle be sure to change the permissions, here is a small tutorial:
Step 1: Download ICS Google Applications - They are all signed Applications from a trusted source
Step 2: Extract google_apps.zip to your Desktop as google_apps
Step 3: Plug in the Kindle to USB, wait for the Kindle Internal Drive to mount
Step 4: Using Windows Explorer, move google_apps to /Kindle/Internal Drive/Download
Step 5: Using ES File Explorer or Root Explorer, copy ONLY OneTimeInitializer.apk and NetworkLocation.apk from /sdcard/Download to /system/app
Step 6: Change the permissions on OneTimeInitializer.apk and NetworkLocation.apk to User: Read Write Group: Read and Others: Read
Step 7: Go to the Installed Applications option on the Kindle by pulling down the upper status bar next to the time, select More+, next find Applications, select Applications then select Installed Applications
Step 8: Find and select Network Location - clear the Data on Network Location
Step 9: Find System - clear the Data on System
Step 10: Next back out of Applications by pressing the <- Back Arrow twice, find and select Location-based Services, then turn OFF both Enable Location-based Services and Location & Google Search
Step 11: Reboot the Kindle
Step 12: Find and select Location-based Services, then turn ON both Enable Location-based Services and Location & Google Search
Step 13: Reboot the Kindle
Step 14: Launch either Google Chrome or Silk Web Browser go to http://www.google.com/ wait for the service to ask you to ALLOW you to store and share the current location. Be sure to click on "Share Location"
Step 15: You have enabled the Location-based Services
The above steps usually wakes up the Location Based Services.:good: Please let us know if this solves your problem.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/google_apps.zip
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
The solution depends on the method you used to install Google Play Store on the Kindle Fire 2. Was it our method here (we use signed APK's):
[ROOT][HOW TO] Install Google Play Store Noob (Simple) Version
I would like you to download our Google Apps Pack here: Download ICS Google Applications
Extract the package and find OneTimeInitializer.apk and NetworkLocation.apk, move these two to the /system/app folder on your Kindle be sure to change the permissions, here is a small tutorial:
Step 1: Download ICS Google Applications - They are all signed Applications from a trusted source
Step 2: Extract google_apps.zip to your Desktop as google_apps
Step 3: Plug in the Kindle to USB, wait for the Kindle Internal Drive to mount
Step 4: Using Windows Explorer, move google_apps to /Kindle/Internal Drive/Download
Step 5: Using ES File Explorer or Root Explorer, copy ONLY OneTimeInitializer.apk and NetworkLocation.apk from /sdcard/Download to /system/app
Step 6: Change the permissions on OneTimeInitializer.apk and NetworkLocation.apk to User: Read Write Group: Read and Others: Read
Step 7: Go to the Installed Applications option on the Kindle by pulling down the upper status bar next to the time, select More+, next find Applications, select Applications then select Installed Applications
Step 8: Find and select Network Location - clear the Data on Network Location
Step 9: Find System - clear the Data on System
Step 10: Next back out of Applications by pressing the <- Back Arrow twice, find and select Location-based Services, then turn OFF both Enable Location-based Services and Location & Google Search
Step 11: Reboot the Kindle
Step 12: Find and select Location-based Services, then turn ON both Enable Location-based Services and Location & Google Search
Step 13: Reboot the Kindle
Step 14: Launch either Google Chrome or Silk Web Browser go to http://www.google.com/ wait for the service to ask you to ALLOW you to store and share the current location. Be sure to click on "Share Location"
Step 15: You have enabled the Location-based Services
The above steps usually wakes up the Location Based Services.:good: Please let us know if this solves your problem.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/google_apps.zip
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This didn't work Either. I tried what you said and still only certain apps get location for instance Opera but not silk even though it ask for me to allow it and then I get the icon on the status bar it still says the location cannot be determined.
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This didn't work Either. I tried what you said and still only certain apps get location for instance Opera but not silk even though it ask for me to allow it and then I get the icon on the status bar it still says the location cannot be determined.
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I just wanted to update you guys that I now am using a Kindle Fire HD 7inch display with firmware 7.2.3 however even with this device location has stopped working and is only working with some apps like opera.
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I just wanted to update you guys that I now am using a Kindle Fire HD 7inch display with firmware 7.2.3 however even with this device location has stopped working and is only working with some apps like opera.
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Does anyone know how to fix location services ??
No WiFi Location On Kindle Fire 2 After Root of 10.2.4
ComputerSteve said:
I just wanted to update you guys that I now am using a Kindle Fire HD 7inch display with firmware 7.2.3 however even with this device location has stopped working and is only working with some apps like opera.
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ComputerSteve,
We have walked you through the entire scope of Location Based Services, the only thing left is to either Reset the Kindle Fire HD 7" to Factory Defaults or download the software update and follow these instructions.
Before we proceed are you 100% sure you do not have something in your network blocking Location Based Services? We just have not heard of two devices having the same problem, this makes me lean towards a network issue. If not, there is one thing left and I am not sure this will solve your issue.
Step 1: Download the Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7.2.3 Update from here: Download Software Update 7.2.3
Step 2: Change the update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720.bin to update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720.zip
Step 3: Using 7-Zip, unzip update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720.zip to update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720 folder
Step 4: Using the update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720 as your master image, slowly copy apk's from the update /system/app folder and replace them on your Kindle Fire HD 7" /system/app folder - be sure to check the Permissions on every apk replaced, they need to be: User: Read Write Group: Read and Others: Read
Step 5: After you have updated the APK's reboot the Kindle.
My feeling is you have something blocking Network Location Based Services at times.
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
We have walked you through the entire scope of Location Based Services, the only thing left is to either Reset the Kindle Fire HD 7" to Factory Defaults or download the software update and follow these instructions.
Before we proceed are you 100% sure you do not have something in your network blocking Location Based Services? We just have not heard of two devices having the same problem, this makes me lean towards a network issue. If not, there is one thing left and I am not sure this will solve your issue.
Step 1: Download the Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7.2.3 Update from here: Download Software Update 7.2.3
Step 2: Change the update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720.bin to update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720.zip
Step 3: Using 7-Zip, unzip update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720.zip to update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720 folder
Step 4: Using the update-kindle-7.2.3_D025_2330720 as your master image, slowly copy apk's from the update /system/app folder and replace them on your Kindle Fire HD 7" /system/app folder - be sure to check the Permissions on every apk replaced, they need to be: User: Read Write Group: Read and Others: Read
Step 5: After you have updated the APK's reboot the Kindle.
My feeling is you have something blocking Network Location Based Services at times.
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I really don't believe that anything is blocked all I did was root the device I just got it from amazon.. Like I said before this has also happened to my Kindle Fire 2 running 10.2.4 and that was right after I got it as well. I think that the root breaks something with the location services. For example if I load up The Weather Channel App on the kindle it cant determine the location but if I load up opera and go to maps.google.com it knows the location but if I open silk and go to maps.google.com the location doesn't work.
No WiFi Location On Kindle Fire 2 and HD 7" After Root of 10.2.4 and 7.2.3
ComputerSteve said:
I really don't believe that anything is blocked all I did was root the device I just got it from amazon.. Like I said before this has also happened to my Kindle Fire 2 running 10.2.4 and that was right after I got it as well. I think that the root breaks something with the location services. For example if I load up The Weather Channel App on the kindle it cant determine the location but if I load up opera and go to maps.google.com it knows the location but if I open silk and go to maps.google.com the location doesn't work.
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ComputerSteve,
I understand your skepticism but you have to look at it this way:
We have over 40 Kindles in our office, so we see a lot. Out of these 40 tablets, we have had one, only one that had a location based issue. When we dug deep, we found the user installed a Firewall at home that was blocking these requests. Now, I will say, being in this industry since 1978 we have found quiescences are usually the key to the solution. Having said this, you said you had a Kindle Fire 2 that had a problem with Location Based Services, correct? Then you said you now have a Kindle Fire HD 7" with a problem with Location Based Services, correct?
So, we can safely conclude the following:
1. Your WiFi is blocking the Location Based Service - check your Firewall Logs or enable logging on your Firewall
OR
2. The method you used to Root the devices has damaged Location Based Service, what Root method did you use on BOTH tablets? We would suspect you used the same method and if this is the truth, let us know and we will try to reverse the process without removing Superuser.
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
I understand your skepticism but you have to look at it this way:
We have over 40 Kindles in our office, so we see a lot. Out of these 40 tablets, we have had one, only one that had a location based issue. When we dug deep, we found the user installed a Firewall at home that was blocking these requests. Now, I will say, being in this industry since 1978 we have found quiescences are usually the key to the solution. Having said this, you said you had a Kindle Fire 2 that had a problem with Location Based Services, correct? Then you said you now have a Kindle Fire HD 7" with a problem with Location Based Services, correct?
So, we can safely conclude the following:
1. Your WiFi is blocking the Location Based Service - check your Firewall Logs or enable logging on your Firewall
OR
2. The method you used to Root the devices has damaged Location Based Service, what Root method did you use on BOTH tablets? We would suspect you used the same method and if this is the truth, let us know and we will try to reverse the process without removing Superuser.
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Ok, Here is what I can tell you. I have used this method located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117 I downloaded the files in that thread and I had no problems the device rooted. I have also no location problems on any of my other devices, I have an iPad 3rd gen and an iPhone 4s both get location fine. I also am using a Time Capsule which doesn't contain an inbuilt firewall. I must say that before the root my location services on the kindle did work. Also I followed the info in this thread and added to my kindles system/app folder the NetworkLocation.apk and the Onetimeinitializer.apk and for a second it looked like location services would work however it had the wrong location I am in Oceanside, NY and it was saying I was in some other state. So I rebooted the device and then after the reboot again location would only work in certain apps such as Opera and in Opera it had the right location it said I was in Oceanside, NY. I don't get why this isn't working I also did what someone else in this thread suggested and I replaced each system/app from a freshly downloaded Kindle Fire HD update.. also I verified all my permissions are User - RW Group- R Others- R. I hope this helps. Thanks.
No WiFi Location On Kindle Fire 2 After Root of 10.2.4
ComputerSteve said:
Ok, Here is what I can tell you. I have used this method located here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069117 I downloaded the files in that thread and I had no problems the device rooted. I have also no location problems on any of my other devices, I have an iPad 3rd gen and an iPhone 4s both get location fine. I also am using a Time Capsule which doesn't contain an inbuilt firewall. I must say that before the root my location services on the kindle did work. Also I followed the info in this thread and added to my kindles system/app folder the NetworkLocation.apk and the Onetimeinitializer.apk and for a second it looked like location services would work however it had the wrong location I am in Oceanside, NY and it was saying I was in some other state. So I rebooted the device and then after the reboot again location would only work in certain apps such as Opera and in Opera it had the right location it said I was in Oceanside, NY. I don't get why this isn't working I also did what someone else in this thread suggested and I replaced each system/app from a freshly downloaded Kindle Fire HD update.. also I verified all my permissions are User - RW Group- R Others- R. I hope this helps. Thanks.
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ComputerSteve,
Thank you very much for the detailed response, this was helpful in ruling out several factors. OK, we know the Rooting Method is not the cause of the problem, as long as you choose option 1 when using Root Many Android, if you used Option 2 then we may need to revers damage done to the Kindle but even that damage will not cause Location Based Services to fail.
What we would like you to do is take one of the Kindle and perform a Factory Reset, let's see if Location Based Services works on the Reset Kindle.
Since you have replaced the /system/app apk's as we requested a couple of days ago, you have done just about everything except a Factory Reset. If we can think of another solution, we will add the information to this post - at this point we are quite perplexed. Since this is not a common occurance, it is hard to nail down what is failing.
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
Thank you very much for the detailed response, this was helpful in ruling out several factors. OK, we know the Rooting Method is not the cause of the problem, as long as you choose option 1 when using Root Many Android, if you used Option 2 then we may need to revers damage done to the Kindle but even that damage will not cause Location Based Services to fail.
What we would like you to do is take one of the Kindle and perform a Factory Reset, let's see if Location Based Services works on the Reset Kindle.
Since you have replaced the /system/app apk's as we requested a couple of days ago, you have done just about everything except a Factory Reset. If we can think of another solution, we will add the information to this post - at this point we are quite perplexed. Since this is not a common occurance, it is hard to nail down what is failing.
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Ok, I have done a Factory Reset and it is still not working. If you guys find any solution please post it. Thanks.
No WiFi Location On Kindle Fire 2 After Root of 10.2.4
ComputerSteve said:
Ok, I have done a Factory Reset and it is still not working. If you guys find any solution please post it. Thanks.
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ComputerSteve,
OK, now you have me wondering about your network. If you have performed a Factory Reset, this should have reverted the Kindle. Wait a minute, it hit me, the Kindle Fire keeps the /system/app in tact when you perform a Factory Reset - it wipe the other folders. So the problem is in the /system/app folder - must be the problem but what app is causing you trouble..
Give us a little time to look at other tablets to see if something jars us. We just got another Kindle in today, turned it on, Location Based Services works flawlessly.
We spent over 2 hours today, attempting to dig at your issue, so far nothing - we were able to replicate a firewall blocking the communication but it does not make sense if you own the router.
Please respond back with a few key pieces of information that would help us to solve your issue:
1. Your Internet Service Provider - Comcast, Verizon, AT&T etc
2. Internet Type - Cable, Fiber, DSL, DSL with PPPoE, Satellite, etc
3. Firewall/Router Make Model and Version (If Applicable) - Just flip over the Wireless Router or look at the back of the Router/Access Point
4. Wireless Communication Used - WPS, WPA, WEP, etc.
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
OK, now you have me wondering about your network. If you have performed a Factory Reset, this should have reverted the Kindle. Wait a minute, it hit me, the Kindle Fire keeps the /system/app in tact when you perform a Factory Reset - it wipe the other folders. So the problem is in the /system/app folder - must be the problem but what app is causing you trouble..
Give us a little time to look at other tablets to see if something jars us. We just got another Kindle in today, turned it on, Location Based Services works flawlessly.
We spent over 2 hours today, attempting to dig at your issue, so far nothing - we were able to replicate a firewall blocking the communication but it does not make sense if you own the router.
Please respond back with a few key pieces of information that would help us to solve your issue:
1. Your Internet Service Provider - Comcast, Verizon, AT&T etc
2. Internet Type - Cable, Fiber, DSL, DSL with PPPoE, Satellite, etc
3. Firewall/Router Make Model and Version (If Applicable) - Just flip over the Wireless Router or look at the back of the Router/Access Point
4. Wireless Communication Used - WPS, WPA, WEP, etc.
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I already answered this but here I go again...
1. Internet service provider - Cablevision/Optimum Online
2. Internet Type - Cable
3. Firewall/Router - Apple Time Capsule - No Firewall is even available
4. Wireless Communication Used - WPA/WPA2 Mixed
Again I have no problems with location on any other devices my iMac and My Macbook pro all see my current location if I go to maps.google.com also all my other devices such as my iPhone and iPad the only device as I said that is having any location problems is the kindle and that started after I rooted. Thanks.
No WiFi Location On Kindle Fire 2 After Root of 10.2.4
ComputerSteve said:
I already answered this but here I go again...
1. Internet service provider - Cablevision/Optimum Online
2. Internet Type - Cable
3. Firewall/Router - Apple Time Capsule - No Firewall is even available
4. Wireless Communication Used - WPA/WPA2 Mixed
Again I have no problems with location on any other devices my iMac and My Macbook pro all see my current location if I go to maps.google.com also all my other devices such as my iPhone and iPad the only device as I said that is having any location problems is the kindle and that started after I rooted. Thanks.
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ComputerSteve,
Apple Time Capsule is a firewall since this is an Apple Airport with a hard drive. This device support Port Forwarding and several advanced firewall functions, we are quite familiar with this device.
OK, now we are getting somewhere! There is a known issue with Apple Time Capsule not releasing the Location, thus not allowing non-apple devices to see the new location.
Just FYI: Apple maintains a database of the Apple Time Capsule locations, this is known to cause people problems like you are describing.
Give me a little time to refresh our memory on the resolution.
prokennexusa said:
ComputerSteve,
Apple Time Capsule is a firewall since this is an Apple Airport with a hard drive. This device support Port Forwarding and several advanced firewall functions, we are quite familiar with this device.
OK, now we are getting somewhere! There is a known issue with Apple Time Capsule not releasing the Location, thus not allowing non-apple devices to see the new location.
Just FYI: Apple maintains a database of the Apple Time Capsule locations, this is known to cause people problems like you are describing.
Give me a little time to refresh our memory on the resolution.
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Just wanted to update you... The time capsule isn't the problem. After you posted this I tried a different router the WNDR3400 netgear and guess what it did the same exact thing my devices other then the kindle fire were all getting location. I have now tried a different router, clearing the Dalvik cache, replacing the entire system/app folder from stock kindle fire update zip, adding networklocation.apk and onetimeinitializer.apk. None of these things have worked. Like I said before location works but only in certain apps for instance if I start silk and go to google maps or any other site that needs location it says the location could not be determined but if I go to the same site on opera then the location works right away. This has to be a problem with rooting because this happened to my kindle fire 2 and now my kindle fire hd after rooting. Thanks and I hope that there is a way to fix this. Is there anyway to reinstall the whole OS or is that what I did when I replaced the whole system/app folder also can you unroot fully and return the kindle back to stock? I am soon going to get a factory cable but is there anyway to use Kindle Fire HD and 2 First Aide Software - Noob (Simple) Version without a factory cable I know that certain apps can restart the kindle into fastboot. Thanks.
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Location services is broken after rooting my 8.9 as well.
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I'm running Hashcode's CM10.1 ([06/03] release) in my Kindle Fire HD 7" and despite the great performance and stability I saw that several apps that use location, crash almost instantly after opening or while getting the current location.
I saw that the CM builds for Kindle Fire HD 7 assume that the Kindle has an internal GPS (It technically has but maybe it not enabled?) and this could be interfering with those location apps that are misbehaving.
Has any one also seen this problem? It is possible to enable the GPS present in Broadcom BCM2076 that provides the Bluetooth functionality of the Kindle HD (and also a dormant GPS functionality) by loading the appropriate kernel module? It there anything else that can be done about this problem?
Thanks!
danielcbit said:
I'm running Hashcode's CM10.1 ([06/03] release) in my Kindle Fire HD 7" and despite the great performance and stability I saw that several apps that use location, crash almost instantly after opening or while getting the current location.
I saw that the CM builds for Kindle Fire HD 7 assume that the Kindle has an internal GPS (It technically has but maybe it not enabled?) and this could be interfering with those location apps that are misbehaving.
Has any one also seen this problem? It is possible to enable the GPS present in Broadcom BCM2076 that provides the Bluetooth functionality of the Kindle HD (and also a dormant GPS functionality) by loading the appropriate kernel module? It there anything else that can be done about this problem?
Thanks!
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Well, I know that Bluetooth isn't working yet on that ROM. So the Bluetooth could be interfering with the location services.
I had no problemas in using bluetooth. I tried file transfers and Torque (OBD2 APP) and both worked OK. I think that the problem is other.
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gps
Hi..... Any one know how to tether GPS on KFHD 7 running hash odes cm 10.1
THanks
I would like to know this also. Is the GPS hardware enabled on those CM10.1 builds?
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No, there's no GPS antena inside the Kindle, so I think CM 10.1 will never enable the internal GPS. But on the other side, assuming there is an internal GPS lets you pair a GPS dongle and make it the location provider, install GPS related apps and run them without limitations. But before that you must set "allow mock locations on" in devs settings.
On a stock Kindle you can do the same by tricking it, but not all GPS related apps will work....
I thought that gps antenna would be shared from bluetooth's antenna as the same chip controls both functionalities.
I was hoping that KFHD could have it's GPS enabled some how.
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I've been trying all day to fake my location, my device is rooted and on fire nexus rom. for some reason it just won't allow me to mock my location, even when I try and enable it in developer options(in which case it just turns mock locations off right away).
anyone have any luck on this? maybe I have to go back to stock firmware?
thanks in advance
lukethovito said:
I've been trying all day to fake my location, my device is rooted and on fire nexus rom. for some reason it just won't allow me to mock my location, even when I try and enable it in developer options(in which case it just turns mock locations off right away).
anyone have any luck on this? maybe I have to go back to stock firmware?
thanks in advance
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Mock location stays enabled on CM 12.1 but is largely ineffective as the device lacks a physical GPS chip which causes most apps to cough up a fir ball. I do have an external (OTG/USB) receiver; with that attached Mock locations works fine.
I don't have a device with Fire Nexus installed as present so can not confirm if the above findings are applicable with that rom. Suspect it will work fine with an external receiver.
lukethovito said:
I've been trying all day to fake my location, my device is rooted and on fire nexus rom. for some reason it just won't allow me to mock my location, even when I try and enable it in developer options(in which case it just turns mock locations off right away).
anyone have any luck on this? maybe I have to go back to stock firmware?
thanks in advance
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Ive been playing with this using stock OS 5.1.3 with the Google Play apps added. Ive found some puzzling things. I know the tablet does not have a GPS chip, despite this I used the app 'Fake GPS' to set a fake position. If I use the browser and browse to google maps page, I can see it does indeed pick up the fake location. The app Google Maps also shows the fake position but only if Google Play services is frozen with titanium backup. If Play services is running, Google Maps does not pick up the fake location. Here is my theory: The tablet is designed to work without Google Play services and has its own Wifi based location technique for some reason it can be fooled by adding a GPS signal (possibly because it has the capability of using this interface in the tablets with GPS and LTE).. Google Play services works standalone, possibly because it detects that there is no GPS chip. If you want to spoof Google Play services I guess you must generate a fake WiFi signal, not a fake GPS signal. I don't know whether there are Apps capable of doing this. Otherwise you have to get into the internals of Google Play services which does not sound easy. As you can see its all speculative. If anyone know of a way to spoof Google play services with a Wifi type technique I would love to know. There must be a way to do this for testing.
julianporter5 said:
Ive been playing with this using stock OS 5.1.3 with the Google Play apps added. Ive found some puzzling things. I know the tablet does not have a GPS chip, despite this I used the app 'Fake GPS' to set a fake position. If I use the browser and browse to google maps page, I can see it does indeed pick up the fake location. The app Google Maps also shows the fake position but only if Google Play services is frozen with titanium backup. If Play services is running, Google Maps does not pick up the fake location. Here is my theory: The tablet is designed to work without Google Play services and has its own Wifi based location technique for some reason it can be fooled by adding a GPS signal (possibly because it has the capability of using this interface in the tablets with GPS and LTE).. Google Play services works standalone, possibly because it detects that there is no GPS chip. If you want to spoof Google Play services I guess you must generate a fake WiFi signal, not a fake GPS signal. I don't know whether there are Apps capable of doing this. Otherwise you have to get into the internals of Google Play services which does not sound easy. As you can see its all speculative. If anyone know of a way to spoof Google play services with a Wifi type technique I would love to know. There must be a way to do this for testing.
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FireOS and Google Play Services both provide location based services via proprietary methods. They are not complementary. You'd be better off with a custom rom that eliminates the ambiguities. Most (if not all) Android location spoofers assume something close to AOSP which is definitely not FireOS.
Davey126 said:
FireOS and Google Play Services both provide location based services via proprietary methods. They are not complementary. You'd be better off with a custom rom that eliminates the ambiguities. Most (if not all) Android location spoofers assume something close to AOSP which is definitely not FireOS.
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I could try to replicate what the OP found with the Fire Nexus ROM but i want to be sure that I can get back to Fire OS 5.1.3. When I used an alternate ROM on my Fire HDX the Amazon Prime Video app no longer worked correctly, in that the video thumbnails disappeared so it was not the ideal solution to escaping from away Fire OS. Can I be sure that I can roll back to 5.1.3 if I try an alternate ROM.
julianporter5 said:
I could try to replicate what the OP found with the Fire Nexus ROM but i want to be sure that I can get back to Fire OS 5.1.3. When I used an alternate ROM on my Fire HDX the Amazon Prime Video app no longer worked correctly, in that the video thumbnails disappeared so it was not the ideal solution to escaping from away Fire OS. Can I be sure that I can roll back to 5.1.3 if I try an alternate ROM.
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Guess I never fully appreciated the importance of video thumbnails. There is a path back as 5th gen devices support FireOS reload via stock recovery menu (HDX lacks this essential capability).