The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
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The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
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Sounds like you're having issues with their chrome cast's HDMI CEC. It can be used to automatically change inputs to the one the chrome cast is using and even turn on tvs.
You could disable HDMI control for your TV and it would prevent the issues from occurring.
Every manufacturer has a different name for their HDMI Control feature.
Who makes your tv, OP?
FractalSphere said:
The setup was fine, connected to my network, played Netflix and Youtube from various devices (phone, laptop, computer) no problems! (Interested in the Plex thread and others on here for locally stored video.. )
What is happening is very strange, however. I have a TV with multiple inputs (typical these days, right?) but after I've been 'casting' to the Chromecast, it takes several tries to change away from that input to another input (my Xbox, or HD antenna).
ALSO - the TV powers itself ON after a while! WHY IS THAT? I left and came back home and thought I had left the TV on - which is not like me at all! And later that night it turned on AGAIN after I went to bed. I unplugged the Chromecast just to get it to stop, but ideally, I would want to leave it plugged in all the time.
What is making the TV turn on?
Will moving my TV input to anything other than the Chromecast port stop it?
Is there a soft power-off option for the Chromecast device?
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I would suggest to just unplug the USB when not in use if your TV is turning on, I know my brothers TV its a westinghouse turns on anytime something connected to it turns on like the xbox or ps3 or laptop
not so good to know. hope its fixed soon
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Sounds like you're having issues with their chrome cast's HDMI CEC. It can be used to automatically change inputs to the one the chrome cast is using and even turn on tvs.
You could disable HDMI control for your TV and it would prevent the issues from occurring.
Every manufacturer has a different name for their HDMI Control feature.
Who makes your tv, OP?
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It's a Toshiba flat-screen, don't know the model. I'll put more detail up tonight when I can look. :silly: I also need to try having it off the Chromecast and starting a session and seeing if it draws the TV to that input. THAT would be nice, but the auto-powering on is a bad bug in my opinion.
My TV turns on automatically when just about anything powers on before the tv is on. Say I turn my ps3 on 1st, it will turn it on. Or plug a USB Flash drive in, turns it on. But, once in the HDMI spot, I can shut it down and it stays off. Very strange.
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Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
I have an LG LM4700, and my AVR with CEC control never turned on/off my tv, but my tv would turn my AVR on/off.
I read on a forum post somewhere (take with a grain of salt) that LG didn't fully implement the full HDMI-CEC spec with SIMPLINK.
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You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
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I also have an LG BP530 a Blu-Ray player which also has Simplink (HDMI-CEC). With both the TV and the Blu-Ray player OFF, pushing the front play button of the Blu-Ray player, turns the blu-player ON, turns the TV ON, switches to the right input and plays the DVD. In other words the Simplink (HDMI-CEC) protocol as implemented by LG for all their LG devices WORKS.
I'm thinking that HDMI-CEC may be a "standard" but every OEM has only tested their implementation with their own stuff. That is why each OEM uses a different name (Anynet+, bravia link/sync, simplink, Ratga link, etc...) instead of HDMI-CEC. I bet if you put the HDMI signal through a scope and try to isolate the control signals you will find that from each OEM they are just a tad different (maybe a bit longer pulse..).
Google could fix this in firmware of course but they will have to test for each brand individually and in the end possibly they will have to have an option to select the type of TV the user has for the differences in HDMI-CEC implementations. Either that or each OEM will have to update their sets to more correctly adhere to the standard.
This is why I never put much faith in HDMI CEC when I use to install home theaters and media rooms. It always led to inconsistent operation with some devices working and others not. I would always turn that feature off and program a universal remote for the customer.
At least it is switching inputs for you, though. That to me is the most important. Are you mainly using a phone/tablet for chromecast or a PC? If mainly using your phone/tablet, you could use LG's app to turn on the TV before casting. I know it is not ideal, but unfortunately HDMI CEC was a standard but all manufacturers implemented it differently. There is currently no way for chromecast to work the way it was demoed to work across all manufacturers' TVs.
EDIT: Some ray of light is that LG is a hardware partner with Google. Chromecast support might get pushed to your current TV and/or Blu-ray which would solve your problems. If nothing else, I suspect LG to come out with a new Blu-ray player that supports Chromecast.
EDIT 2: I forgot that LG's network protocol does not support turning "on" the TV or Blu-ray so using LG's app will not help you.
In fact I have 3 Chromecasts (for our 3 TVs) and the Chromecast input switching works so well on the LG that I hooked all 3 on the LG and I was able to cast from Chrome at will to one at a time and they would automatically switch to the correct input on each and every time. Now if they can fix the Auto Power ON I will be all set. I also think that LG and Google have a good relationship so they can hopefully work out who will update what (Chromecast or the LG TV) to fix this. I certainly will continue bothering them both (Google and LG) till they fix the issue.
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Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
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Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
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Sorry but no dice. Simplink settings: Simplink ON, Auto Power ON. The TV recognizes the 3 Chromecasts plugged into the 3 HDMI inputs with the Simplink logo on the input TV screen, but it refuses to allow them to turn the TV on. All 3 are powered with the external power brick. However, once the TV is manually turned on, the Chromecasts do switch to the correct input when something is cast to them. So as far as the 2013 LG model 47/50/55LA6200 is concerned, the only issue is that Chromecast will not turn the TV ON even though the Auto Power setting of Simplink (LG speak for HDMI-CEC) is on.
Either Chromecast or LG need to update the firmware for their devices, as I have said before the LG Blu-Ray player with Simplink does not have that problem and is able to turn the TV on just fine.
Placeholder for HDMI-CEC
http://www.quantumdata.com/pdf/CEC_White_Paper.pdf
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
CEC, or Consumer Electronics Control, allows for HDMI devices to be controlled with one remote control. If your television has CEC support, you may be able to turn on and change the input on your TV using your phone, tablet or computer while using Chromecast. Please note that in order for CEC to work (if CEC is supported by your TV), your Chromecast must be powered by a power outlet.
Manufacturers often call CEC by different names, including Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), SimpLink (LG), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
larryvand said:
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
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It worked after I turned on Anynet+ on my Samsung TV (from 2009). I also had to move from the TV USB to an external USB Power (actually it's my Google TV that provides power) because when the TV is off, it does not power the USB port.
This is a brand new 2013 LG smart TV. I have turned on the SIMPLINK and the auto power on, and the chromecast is using its own powersupply. I also have a SIMPLINK blu-ray player and that works perfectly. When I use the blu-ray player remote it will turn on the TV and switch to the right channel. Same with the LG TV remote control it can turn off and on the blu-ray player. So the HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) is not the issue. It is Chromecast as far as I can tell. With the TV off, if I try to cast a youtube video, chromecast does not turn on the TV for some reason. If the TV is already on but in a different input, it does switch to the right input so part of the Chromecast HDMI-CEC is working. I'm at a loss here.
What version of firmware your chromecast uses?
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
Mine is working as advertised. Powered by AC.
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Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
Also no power without the USB.
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Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
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I have a Monoprice 4 port HDMI switcher and the Chromecast is plugged into it. It keeps turning on the other TV. My wife thought we had a ghost.
My 5 yo Samsung 46in LCD detects it as an AnyNet device and switches inputs but won't power on. My 2 yo Insignia 24in powers on.
I think it all rests on age
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Mine works and turns the TV on and even switches to the Chromecast input if I start a cast.
I have a 3 year old Sony 46EX710 with the Chromecast plugged into power using the USB port on the TV. It seems my TV powers the USB ports at all time, even if the TV is off.
It doesn't switch back to the last input or turn the TV off if I stop the cast though (I'm sure that has more to do with the TV than the Chromecast).
My Sony 40EX400 turns on when I have it plugged into the wall, but not when plugged into the USB port. (indicating the usb port does not provide power when the tv is turned off)
I dont believe usb ports receive power from tvs when the tv is off thus the reasoning that you need the wall outlet. I have setup 3 chromecasts and all require wall outlet power to turn on tvs, 2 samsung and 1 sony tv.
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
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That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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Finally someone with an LG. I have a brand new LG 2013 47LA6200 smart TV and I still can not turn the TV ON (switches inputs just fine). I have both settings to ON for the SIMPLINK and AUTO POWER.
My Chromecast Firmware version is 12072 (you can see that on the Chromecast app). What is yours?
Mine has the same build number. My TV is the 47LW5600. Mine just worked without messing with any settings. Although, I've looked, and I can't seem to fine my simplink settings in the menus.
EDIT: Just realized that there's a simplink button on the stock remote that opens up the simplink menu. Only has options to turn off and on.
larryvand said:
That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
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Here is the TV I have:
http://store.vizio.com/e322ar.html
However, after the TV has been off for a long while, the Chromecast seems to shut off at some point, not sure at what point though. Oh well, I can live with that. My TV is usually on, even when I'm not watching it, for some kind of background noise, haha
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I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
mikaelsnavy said:
I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
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I have turned CEC on in the settings. There's only an on/off option, and detect devices, which it does detect the chromecast. It switches inputs just fine, but won't turn on the TV. I've also tested my HDMI receiver, and it doesn't turn that on either. However, I know the receiver can be turned on via CEC because my TV is capable of turning the receiver on. Maybe an update will offer better CEC compatibility.
EDIT: My raspberry pi turns on my vizio TV when you power it on, so the TV is definitely capable of being turned on via CEC.
I have one TV in my house (Toshiba 55HT1U) that keeps getting turned on by the Chromecast. I turn the TV off, and then with a few minutes, the TV will be back on again. Unplug the Chromecast, and the TV stays off. I have tried multiple Chromecasts with the same results, I disabled Regza Link (Toshiba's HDMI-CEC), and it still keeps happening. This also happens whether the Chromecast is connected to my TV or to the receiver which is then connected to the TV. I have read where this particular TV suffers from this issue with other devices, but I wish there was a way to turn it off from the Chromecast end.
Right now, my solution is to go and unplug the Chromecast when I am not using it...hardly an elegant solution.
Have you check the manufacture website of your TV. I know some TV within the last few years, if it have a USB hook up, you can typically update the TV Firmware it may solve your problem. Just a shot in the dark. Also Chromecast is also getting an update.
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I have one TV in my house (Toshiba 55HT1U) that keeps getting turned on by the Chromecast. I turn the TV off, and then with a few minutes, the TV will be back on again. Unplug the Chromecast, and the TV stays off. I have tried multiple Chromecasts with the same results, I disabled Regza Link (Toshiba's HDMI-CEC), and it still keeps happening. This also happens whether the Chromecast is connected to my TV or to the receiver which is then connected to the TV. I have read where this particular TV suffers from this issue with other devices, but I wish there was a way to turn it off from the Chromecast end.
Right now, my solution is to go and unplug the Chromecast when I am not using it...hardly an elegant solution.
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Have you check the manufacture website of your TV. I know some TV within the last few years, if it have a USB hook up, you can typically update the TV Firmware it may solve your problem. Just a shot in the dark. Also Chromecast is also getting an update.
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I have seen where some people have tried the update and it made no difference, but I will definitely try this when I get home tonight.
Find your HDMI-CEC options (whatever Toshiba calls it) and turn on HDMI-CEC but turn off Auto power. That will allow HDMI-CEC to switch to the right input but will not allow the HDMI-CEC to auto power the TV.
I have the exact same problem with a Toshiba 46G300U1 so let me know if you find a solution. It seems like a bunch of the Toshiba's all have this problem and I doubt Toshiba is going to fix it. I've tried various different kinds of options (connecting the Chromecast through a cable, a HDMI switch etc.). As long as the Chromecast is switched on and connected to the TV it always turns on automatically. Obviously disabling HDMI-CEC doesnt seem to help. I suspect there is a bug in the Toshiba that still keeps acting on HDMI-CEC signalsI am planning to file a support case with Chromecast as they are more likely to fix the problem (maybe an option to disable CEC on the Chromecast) than Toshiba. But since that is unlikely I am thinking maybe I can try a cable that doesnt properly support HDMI-CEC. It seems CEC is a separate wire and there are lots of people online complaining about cables that don't support CEC.
Try not powering your device via USB from the TV. (If you are) My LG TV seems to have issues with CEC from devices that get power from it via USB. Does weird stuff like this
So I tried updating the firmware on my TV...they said just put the new firmware on a USB stick, then plug the stick into the TV and it will automatically prompt you to start the install. Well, it didn't. I tried 2 different USB sticks with no success.
My "fix" was to just power the Chromecast WITH the USB port on the TV. That way the Chromecast is off when the TV is, so it won't try to turn it back on.
Great idea. I am connecting my USB cable to the TV's USB port for now. I might try connecting the Chromecast via my audio receiver later on. FWIW the firmware update did nothing to solve the issue on my TV.
I don't want to disable CEC on my TV, because I'd still like to have the CEC capability to turn on/off my home theatre automatically along with the TV. I can use USB power from the TV to power my Chromecast, but once the TV is on, my home theatre mutes automatically because it gives up control of CEC to chromecast. It's an unfortunate software decision made by Sony, the maker of my home theatre. I want the home theatre speakers to stay active, but Sony has programmed it to mute when another device on the same HDMI bus takes CEC control.
If you don't want your Chromecast to be a CEC-control device, meaning you don't want it turning your set on at all, or you don't want it overriding other CEC devices, just order lindy-usa.com part number 711110-1, which is a HDMI CEC Less Adapter, Female to Male, and put it inline with your Chromecast. It disables the CEC sense line from your Chromecast to your TV. Problem solved. Neall
My Chromecast is plugged into an HDMI input on my home theater receiver (Yamaha RX-V673) and powered externally from the wall. The HDMI output goes to my TV (6-yr old Samsung LNT4042H). I am streaming a browser tab (playing Grooveshark audio) to my home theater. Everything works fine, but I don't want to leave my TV on since I'm only listening to music. But when I turn the TV off, the audio stops too. Very perplexing, I'm not even sure whether or not to blame the Chromecast or the receiver, but I'm leaning toward the former (still no clue how to fix it though).
Any ideas? Thanks!
Weird. Dotés the TV INPUT to the hometheater ?
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Weird. Dotés the TV INPUT to the hometheater ?
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No. Weirder still, if the TV is already off when I start casting, it will cast successfully for a little while, but eventually the audio will cut out. If I then turn TV on, audio will come back.
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My Chromecast is plugged into an HDMI input on my home theater receiver (Yamaha RX-V673) and powered externally from the wall. The HDMI output goes to my TV (6-yr old Samsung LNT4042H). I am streaming a browser tab (playing Grooveshark audio) to my home theater. Everything works fine, but I don't want to leave my TV on since I'm only listening to music. But when I turn the TV off, the audio stops too. Very perplexing, I'm not even sure whether or not to blame the Chromecast or the receiver, but I'm leaning toward the former (still no clue how to fix it though).
Any ideas? Thanks!
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Do you have the USB plugged into the TV??
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Do you have the USB plugged into the TV??
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Nope, powered externally from wall as mentioned in OP. Although admittedly I did add that in an edit so even though you quoted it, perhaps you read before I added it. :angel:
Another weird observation... if I put my TV to another input, it works fine. This is almost a perfect workaround since if I put TV to a dead input, it is almost as good as being powered off. Not quite though.
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Nope, powered externally from wall as mentioned in OP. Although admittedly I did add that in an edit so even though you quoted it, perhaps you read before I added it. :angel:
Another weird observation... if I put my TV to another input, it works fine. This is almost a perfect workaround since if I put TV to a dead input, it is almost as good as being powered off. Not quite though.
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Sounds like either your receiver is "noticing" that the TV is off and going into some power save or something (check for input detection or options on a particular input), or your TV is doing the audio decode and feeding it back to your receiver via Audio Return Channel (ARC).
The latter is less likely simply because you get some audio at the start when the TV is off.
I tried looking in your receiver's manual, but it seems pretty complex (and powerful).
This page will let you download the manual without registering for a Yamaha account:
http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?category_id1=16445&product_id=1645661
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Do you have the USB plugged into the TV??
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bhiga said:
Sounds like either your receiver is "noticing" that the TV is off and going into some power save or something (check for input detection or options on a particular input), or your TV is doing the audio decode and feeding it back to your receiver via Audio Return Channel (ARC).
The latter is less likely simply because you get some audio at the start when the TV is off.
I tried looking in your receiver's manual, but it seems pretty complex (and powerful).
This page will let you download the manual without registering for a Yamaha account:
http://download.yamaha.com/search/product/?category_id1=16445&product_id=1645661
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It does seem to be the receiver at fault, since I've tested and it happens with other HDMI sources. Went through the entire manual and tried changing every option that seemed like it might be related... no luck. Will continue my search elsewhere since this does not seem to be Chromecast related. Thanks anyway. :good:
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It does seem to be the receiver at fault, since I've tested and it happens with other HDMI sources. Went through the entire manual and tried changing every option that seemed like it might be related... no luck. Will continue my search elsewhere since this does not seem to be Chromecast related. Thanks anyway. :good:
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Probably something that can keep the HDMI connection alive, like Dr. HDMI or HDMI Detective might work, though I'd see about borrowing or trying one before spending money on it if possible.
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Probably something that can keep the HDMI connection alive, like Dr. HDMI or HDMI Detective might work, though I'd see about borrowing or trying one before spending money on it if possible.
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Maybe that would work, but so does the complete opposite (killing the connection 100%). I've found that if I totally unplug my TV, then it works fine. The problem is that when the TV is "off" it is actually in standby mode which must still draw some power, and the receiver is aware of this via the HDMI connection, and for some dumb reason chooses to stop the audio stream because of it. If I unplug the TV, then the receiver loses awareness of it entirely and decides to play the audio again. Very stupid, but solvable for $10:
www.amazon.com/Woods-Extension-Switch-Remote-15-Feet/dp/B000KKND86/
I currently manually push the TV power button to turn it off... now I just have to use that button instead to totally cut it off from power.
I believe the receiver is to blame... but easier to spend $10 than try to make Yamaha fix a problem.
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If I unplug the TV, then the receiver loses awareness of it entirely and decides to play the audio again. Very stupid, but solvable for $10:
www.amazon.com/Woods-Extension-Switch-Remote-15-Feet/dp/B000KKND86/
I currently manually push the TV power button to turn it off... now I just have to use that button instead to totally cut it off from power.
I believe the receiver is to blame... but easier to spend $10 than try to make Yamaha fix a problem.
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If you can find an IR-triggered power cut off and you have a learning remote, you may be able to teach one of your remote buttons the signal and avoid getting up (yeah, I'm lazy).
Reminds me of the joke "if you lend someone $20 and never see them again, it might be $20 well spent."
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This is a very LONG SHOT and most likely NOT the problem...
But with most Amp to TV setups the Amp requires the TV to be on to get it's HDCP validation as the amp merely acts as a passthrough device.
Like I said it is a longshot but it is possible that some services may require HDCP to operate....
More likely though it is CEC sending a shutdown signal to the amp.
Or the Amp is timing out because it believes the Chromecast is a Video device and requires a monitor regardless of the fact that the Chromecast can do Audio Only as well.
The Amp itself really has no clue what is plugged into it...All it knows is HDMI gets sent to a Monitor and in your case it doesn't have a destination so shuts itself off.
Asphyx said:
The Amp itself really has no clue what is plugged into it...All it knows is HDMI gets sent to a Monitor and in your case it doesn't have a destination so shuts itself off.
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The fact that totally cutting the power to the TV (at the wall) fixes everything would seem to disprove that statement (and the earlier one that HDCP from the TV might be required for it to work). But I really don't know for sure.
It could *possibly* be HDMI CEC messing with it.
death2all110 said:
It could *possibly* be HDMI CEC messing with it.
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Yep!
Because Pulling the plug means no CEC command gets sent!
Thats what it is!
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death2all110 said:
It could *possibly* be HDMI CEC messing with it.
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Yep!
Because Pulling the plug means no CEC command gets sent!
Thats what it is!
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Interesting. This CEC is new to me. I wonder how long it's been around... my TV (and the connecting cable) is from 2007.
No options in TV or Receiver anywhere to disable it, although the receiver specs do say that it has CEC. If it is CEC causing my issue, I wonder if something like this might help?
http://www.pulse-eight.com/store/products/110-cec-less-hdmi-cable.aspx
Of course it's only a foot long so I'd need a F-F connector to tack it onto the end of my existing cable.
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Interesting. This CEC is new to me. I wonder how long it's been around... my TV (and the connecting cable) is from 2007.
No options in TV or Receiver anywhere to disable it, although the receiver specs do say that it has CEC. If it is CEC causing my issue, I wonder if something like this might help?
http://www.pulse-eight.com/store/products/110-cec-less-hdmi-cable.aspx
Of course it's only a foot long so I'd need a F-F connector to tack it onto the end of my existing cable.
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CEC = Consumer Electronic Control
It's meant to help with the IR control and switching of inputs on Consumer devices
It was Introduced with the HDMI 1.2a Spec and expanded when HDMI 1.3 came out.
It's basically a control network for all the devices in a Home Entertainment system. Your supposed to be able to use one Remote to control everything....Works in Theory but most people have no clue how to get it to work! LOL
If you set your TV to your TUNER it should tell the Amp to switch to the Optical TV input automatically. And when you select BlueRay that goes through the amp the Amp should switch to that input and automatically change the input on the TV to see the Amp.
That Cable probably lifts pin 13 from connecting (isn't wired) which would take a particular device off the CEC Network.
But I would check both the Amp and TV settings first because by adding that cable you will have to switch inputs if you use the tuner on the TV and not just a set top box.If everything you own and watch goes through the amp the cable won't cost you any functionality other than TV remote working to change volume on the amp.
EDIT I don't suggest getting a Female to Female connector to barrel two cables together...
Better to get an extension HDMI cable that has a Female to Male cause every connector and connection can add noise and kill signal quality.
I have a opposite problem, chromecast keeps turning my TV on My Chromecast is connected to my Yamaha RX-A830 and I have a Samsung E8000 with 2013 Evolution kit. Every time I start playback on Chromecast, the TV is turned on. If I turn the TV off, the playback continues, but after some time (seems random to me) it turns the TV on again. Maybe that's when the playback stops for you? Because your TV does not support CEC and Chromecast thinks that there is no need to play anymore?
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I have a opposite problem, chromecast keeps turning my TV on My Chromecast is connected to my Yamaha RX-A830 and I have a Samsung E8000 with 2013 Evolution kit. Every time I start playback on Chromecast, the TV is turned on. If I turn the TV off, the playback continues, but after some time (seems random to me) it turns the TV on again. Maybe that's when the playback stops for you? Because your TV does not support CEC and Chromecast thinks that there is no need to play anymore?
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Hmm, I'm pretty sure I've ruled out the Chromecast, since it happens with Wii U in the same way. But it is still possible it could be as you describe, and the exact same thing is happening with the Wii U too.
poisike said:
I have a opposite problem, chromecast keeps turning my TV on My Chromecast is connected to my Yamaha RX-A830 and I have a Samsung E8000 with 2013 Evolution kit. Every time I start playback on Chromecast, the TV is turned on.
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That's how it's supposed to work.
If you don't want the TV turning on, you'll need to disable CEC on your TV, or if it has an option, disallow CEC power on.
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Because your TV does not support CEC and Chromecast thinks that there is no need to play anymore?
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Chromecast doesn't care. It's still playing as turning the TV back on results in audio.
Really sounds like Yamaha thought it would be smart for the receiver to automatically switch off if the attached display is turned off.
My Sony sound bar has an auto-off feature too that has the annoying feature of turning off if I have my TiVo paused too long, so I turned off the sound bar's auto off and turned on my TV's option to turn off attached devices when powering off.
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Wii U does not support CEC.
My TV CEC is on and Power sync is disabled. Yet still Chromecast turns it on...
Yamaha receivers turn off when they get CEC command to do so. My Chromecast has never turned my Yamaha receiver off. I have Yamaha set to HDMI control "On" and Standby sync "Auto" which should accept CEC power down command only when the current source sends it.
Hello,
I've got the Google Chromecast and the Pioneer VSX-828-K AVR. The Chromecast is plugged into the "BD" HDMI input. That all worked fine for about a month, untill I wanted to stream a movie through the Plex App last week. The main screen was displayed normaly, but when the movie started, it only showed the upper left part of the video, as if it was zoomed in. Same problem with the Youtube App and all my other CC apps. If I plug the CC directly into the monitor without the AVR, everything works fine. I use a PC-Monitor as TV, so I can't change any settings on that. Somebody got an idea how to fix it?
Thank you
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I've got the Google Chromecast and the Pioneer VSX-828-K AVR. The Chromecast is plugged into the "BD" HDMI input. That all worked fine for about a month, untill I wanted to stream a movie through the Plex App last week. The main screen was displayed normaly, but when the movie started, it only showed the upper left part of the video, as if it was zoomed in. Same problem with the Youtube App and all my other CC apps. If I plug the CC directly into the monitor without the AVR, everything works fine. I use a PC-Monitor as TV, so I can't change any settings on that. Somebody got an idea how to fix it?
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Sounds like your AVR might be in a funny mode if it supports fancy features like PIP.
Try a different input on your AVR.
bhiga said:
Sounds like your AVR might be in a funny mode if it supports fancy features like PIP.
Try a different input on your AVR.
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I already tried some other inputs, same problem.
Have you tried some other device in that same input?
Otherwise....
Unplug the AVR, wait a minute and then plug it back in.....
I have this same issue with my Sony receiver. Been searching for months with no solution. So frustrating. Especially when it used to work fine.