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How to enable Developer Settings

Courtesy of Android Central, thanks for the heads up!
This is essential to get an unlocked bootloader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp07dPusJNA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

How come they have done that?

hahaha that was awesome!

This reminds me of the taps @ Andrioid Version to get the Zombie art

Jordanooo said:
How come they have done that?
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Because they are trying to make it a consumer phone as well as a developers phone. The average user doesn't need these settings, and could very easily mess up their phone by using them. With such an easy method to re enable them, why not do it?
jak3z said:
This reminds me of the taps @ Andrioid Version to get the Zombie art
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And the BumbleBee in HC, the NyanDroid in ICS, and the Jellybean in JB
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V

LOL at the "now you are 3...2...1 steps to becoming a developer" xD
Google has some humor

lol at least it keeps those who don't know what they are doing from messing up their phone

mjybarr said:
This is essential to get an unlocked bootloader.
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Sure good to know, but what does it have to do with the bootloader? I thought that to unlock bootloader, you only need to "fastboot oem unlock"?
It's unlikely that I need to change an option in the menu in order to unlock... What if I somehow screw up and can't boot, and then lock to bootloader? Stuck with a brick?

My Gnexi said:
Sure good to know, but what does it have to do with the bootloader? I thought that to unlock bootloader, you only need to "fastboot oem unlock"?
It's unlikely that I need to change an option in the menu in order to unlock... What if I somehow screw up and can't boot, and then lock to bootloader? Stuck with a brick?
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You need to get into developer settings and activate USB debugging so you can use adb to proceed to unlock the bootloader.
Also I find the way to unlock developer settings to be quite humorous! Sadly I can see many impatient users looking to access said settings the first time be be put off by this, hopefully they will see reason!

Awwwwsome
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mjybarr said:
Courtesy of Android Central, thanks for the heads up!
This is essential to get an unlocked bootloader.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp07dPusJNA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That, my friend ,is Awesome!

The Unnamed Time Lord said:
You need to get into developer settings and activate USB debugging so you can use adb to proceed to unlock the bootloader.
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You don't need adb to unlock the bootloader! Unlocking is done in fastboot mode, so saying "This is essential to get an unlocked bootloader" is wrong.
You can get to the bootloader (fastboot mode) by pressing the buttons during boot.

My Gnexi said:
You don't need adb to unlock the bootloader! Unlocking is done in fastboot mode, so saying "This is essential to get an unlocked bootloader" is wrong.
You can get to the bootloader (fastboot mode) by pressing the buttons during boot.
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Your wrong my friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972508
Read step 5 in the link above ^^
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The guide is wrong.

Never mind.

Hello,
mjybarr said:
Your wrong my friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1972508
Read step 5 in the link above ^^
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Please read this reply by efrant:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33727130&postcount=27
efrant said:
This is not just directed at the OP:
I think people should wait until they get a hold of the device before posting guides and directing others on what to do. Unless you actually try something and it works, I wouldn't be posting any guides.
Just to clarify some mis-information in this thread:
1) You do not need to install the SDK (and you do not need it to install the driver) -- the SDK is just a bunch of stuff that, unless you are developing, you will never need;
2) The driver for the N4 may not even be included in the SDK -- the GNex driver certainly wasn't;
3) For the fastboot driver to install (and for fastboot commands to work), your device must be booted in fastboot mode;
4) USB Debugging is a feature of Android, and to use it, you have to be booted into Android -- it has nothing to do with the bootloader;
5) Currently, there is no exploit to gain root on any build of Android higher than 4.1.1, so, there is no way to gain root without unlocking the bootloader at this time.
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Also, 2 responders above in the same page say that.
Also, it doesn't make sense to me that fastboot's operation will check an option that is selected while you are in the OS.
If someone that has the device can check it then great, until then I'll assume USB Debugging is NOT needed to unlock bootloader.

[Q] if you can unlock bootloader on motorola.com, why aren't people doing it?

How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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The popular carriers like AT&T and VZW don't allow it - so that prevents a large group from doing it.

Cause most carrier phones don't have their option to unlock the boot loader. But yes if you do unluck the boot loader you can root. But you can also root without unlocking thanks to jcase's pwnmymoto root method.

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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Most people aren't talking about it because I guess they figure you know whether or not you bought a phone that could be unlocked. If you are bootloader unlocked then yes - you just flash su.zip in cwm or twrp and you are good to go.
So if you are on Sprint or T-mobile, US Cellular or international go for it.

Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices

Ugh!!!
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.

Radio2006 said:
Glad I ran into this. I was going through the process to unlock my XT1080M on the site...looks like I'm waiting for the non-Chinese path.
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There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
Sent from my XT1060

Droyyd said:
Unlocking the bootloader voids warranties as well...doing it through the website makes that void permanent whereas if you did it without the website you can still have your phone go through the warranty process as long as you unroot and relock the bootloader. that's what i love about the nexus devices
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While this may be true for Nexus devices, it doesn't apply to the Moto X.
The Moto X bootloader has 3 states:
Locked, Unlocked, and Re-Locked
Once you have unlocked, if you subsequently re-lock, the status changes to "Re-Locked". You can NEVER get it back to "Locked". So regardless of whether you get your code from the official Moto Unlock site or the Middleman, they still know that you had unlocked previously. There is no way around this...

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There's no 'non Chinese' path for Verizon phones. Unless you have a developer edition
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Hence the reason I am waiting.

Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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Waiting for what?
Sent from my XT1060

Radio2006 said:
Hence the reason I am waiting.
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rocketsaucev2 said:
Waiting for what?
Sent from my XT1060
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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.

Its China method quick, before it ends again....maybe for good....
Or it won't happen. The bootloader won't be "cracked". If it could be, it would be by now.
I'd get in on the China method, or accept a life of no proper root for your device. And no developer made updates after the X stops getting official updates.

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Exactly! I'm not sure what he is waiting for. An BL unlock exploit to come along? Dan Rosenburg (author of the Razr M Bootloader exploit) has said himself that it is extremely unlikely that a new Moto BL unlock exploit will EVER come along.
@Radio2006 : The "china" method could end tomorrow. It is 99.999% sure to be the ONLY way you will ever get unlocked. If being unlocked is important you, I would urge you not to wait.
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Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.

Radio2006 said:
Hey, gee thanks guys. I didn't know that. The China method has already shut down according to an XDA post that I read earlier. So I was hoping that something would occur later.
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It closed earlier this year, then reopened a couple months later. It is still available now. Find the thread titled "China Middleman Back?" Thread.
Good luck!

You rock bro...just sent the payment. Thanks again.

BaconDrips said:
How come people aren't talking about this? Would I be able to root if the bootloader is unlocked?
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I think only developer phones can be unlocked.

dhru1405 said:
I think only developer phones can be unlocked.
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Nope. Lots of moto x variations can be unlocked. And they all can do anything a dev edition can do, except keep their warranty.

Android N OTA Failed

Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?

wolfnumba1 said:
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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reboot into bootloader mode and flash that way. OTA is the worst way to update, IMO.

mikeprius said:
reboot into bootloader mode and flash that way. OTA is the worst way to update, IMO.
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I can't flash images with a locked bootloader or is there a way around that?

wolfnumba1 said:
I can't flash images with a locked bootloader or is there a way around that?
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the OTA wiped your custom recovery and didn't load the ROM properly !??!?!?! Yikes....................if your phone has stock recovery and the bootloader is locked then it is bricked and you need to send it in.

Device was completely stock, including recovery no custom recovery or root or anything.

That's strange....

mikeprius said:
That's strange....
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Lol I know tell me about it.... I am going to see if motorola will send me a replacement but not to confident they will.

did you have root before taking the ota? anyways, sounds like you have the first N brick.

wolfnumba1 said:
Lol I know tell me about it.... I am going to see if motorola will send me a replacement but not to confident they will.
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They may....I think the big question is if they still have any in stock......anyways, let us know what happens....that's a very unfortunate situation. The first thing I did when I got my phone was unlock the bootloader and I have not re-locked it since.

simms22 said:
did you have root before taking the ota? anyways, sounds like you have the first N brick.
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No did not have root, was completely stock.

mikeprius said:
They may....I think the big question is if they still have any in stock......anyways, let us know what happens....that's a very unfortunate situation. The first thing I did when I got my phone was unlock the bootloader and I have not re-locked it since.
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Yea sucks, device is out of warranty so I am SOL it seems. Lol I don't unlock because it breaks android pay and other security features which I did not want to disable.

wolfnumba1 said:
No did not have root, was completely stock.
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yea, read. i was going to post when no one else posted, but had a customer walk in. by the time i posted it was too late :angel:

wolfnumba1 said:
Yea sucks, device is out of warranty so I am SOL it seems. Lol I don't unlock because it breaks android pay and other security features which I did not want to disable.
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This is even more unfortunate. You can use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader. I've flashed my phone back to stock images with the bootloader unlocked and Android Pay works. It's not contingent on a locked bootloader, only factory stock images.

mikeprius said:
This is even more unfortunate. You can use Android Pay with an unlocked bootloader. I've flashed my phone back to stock images with the bootloader unlocked and Android Pay works. It's not contingent on a locked bootloader, only factory stock images.
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Oh weird, when you check off the allow oem unlock it says disabled security features, I wonder what that means then... yes it sucks, now a very nice looking paperweight lol

wolfnumba1 said:
Oh weird, when you check off the allow oem unlock it says disabled security features, I wonder what that means then... yes it sucks, now a very nice looking paperweight lol
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That's just a general warning. No bearing on AP.......well you may be able to sell the phone as some people may buy it. I'm sure someone out there has a way to get it back, but I'm not sure how. I recall seeing a thread where someone in Cambodia did the same thing and he took it to a shop that was able to reverse it.....

mikeprius said:
That's just a general warning. No bearing on AP.......well you may be able to sell the phone as some people may buy it. I'm sure someone out there has a way to get it back, but I'm not sure how. I recall seeing a thread where someone in Cambodia did the same thing and he took it to a shop that was able to reverse it.....
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Lol really? Recall where?

wolfnumba1 said:
Lol really? Recall where?
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I can't find the thread, but I did find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-bricked-november-security-ota-t3242773
It looks like you are not the first to be bricked with an OTA update. There should be a sticky about this issue moving forward.

mikeprius said:
I can't find the thread, but I did find this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/nexus-6-bricked-november-security-ota-t3242773
It looks like you are not the first to be bricked with an OTA update. There should be a sticky about this issue moving forward.
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Lol so ****ty, looks like the phone is ****ed

wolfnumba1 said:
Hey guys,
Not sure if I am going to be able to do anything about this. I signed up for the OTA beta program, device downloaded the OTA. When I got to the flashing stage it went to recovery and failed for some reason. Now I am unable to boot the device just gets stuck at Google splash screen. Cannot OEM unlock in fastboot because it was not enabled in developer options prior so flashing any images is out of the question. Is there any hope for me past this point or is the device bricked?
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Count me in as one of the potentially many more that bricked his phone while trying out the Beta program via OTA...

sorry to tell you this , but with locked bootloader , your phone is hard bricked, no way to recover, only by sending it back to motorola or amazon if you bought from them. i sold about 100 pieces of nexus 6 to customers and my first advice to them is to check " Enable oem unlocking "
anyway email google and blame them for this and i am sure they will help

DO you guys want me to make a youtube video on how to unlock bootloader and root?

the title says it all

yes please. I got the bootloader unlocked but i cant get root and its stressing me out haha

I'm sure it will be useful to many people. I say do it.

kafepuya said:
I'm sure it will be useful to many people. I say do it.
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and relocking bootloader too.

AFIAK you can't re-lock but if you can I'm down. As for the how to... follow simple written directions in the other thread and done.

scottyd035ntknow said:
AFIAK you can't re-lock but if you can I'm down. As for the how to... follow simple written directions in the other thread and done.
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yes you can. i did it and so this guy. after i saw i tried it and unlocked mine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68059274&postcount=215

you can relock bootloader but i think it will cause an issue if you on stock rom with mods

mymeatb18 said:
you can relock bootloader but i think it will cause an issue if you on stock rom with mods
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it will wipe all data ..

Yes to doing a video. Even though I'm pretty good at following written instructions I always feel a bit more confident by watching a video before hand just so I can have a visual of what to expect.

bootloader oem
locking or unlocking will wipe your data and you can find out the current status of the bootloader using this command:
fastboot getvar all
this will list some system info including the locked or unlocked status of the bootloader so you can verify it

Yeah I'm all for re-locking mine as long as it'll maintain root and not mess with xposed framework.... if it does I suppose I'll just leave it.

scottyd035ntknow said:
Yeah I'm all for re-locking mine as long as it'll maintain root and not mess with xposed framework.... if it does I suppose I'll just leave it.
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no you wont if you want root. on MM then you must unlock. if you want root with locked bootloader then use LP.

Well its already rooted and its performing WAY too good on the rooted stock rom with ad blockers and bloat disabled for me to want to screw with. I suppose I'll just leave it alone for now. I dunno if my phone is a freak or its just MM or they are all like that but besides being blazing fast it gets reception EVERYWHERE. My wife even goes wtf when we go into places where I maintain decent LTE and she is on edge and I have to turn on tethering lol.

relock bootloader

I am thinking of going back to stock as I see no need for root at the moment. Can I lock the bootloader again and unlock it again in the future?

use this : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/development/toolkit-oneplus-3t-toolkit-unlock-t3507729

Erik1805 said:
I am thinking of going back to stock as I see no need for root at the moment. Can I lock the bootloader again and unlock it again in the future?
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Yes you can. Just remember that it'll wipe your device.
andivivaldi said:
use this : https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/development/toolkit-oneplus-3t-toolkit-unlock-t3507729
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If you're gonna use toolkits, at least use the right one... That link is for the outdated version. I'm sure it works, but still...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/development/toolkit-oneplus-3-toolkit-unlock-t3398799
And I'm gonna add the obligatory remark on how learning to use fastboot and adb can be very useful when tinkering with your device. It can sometimes save your device when toolkits can't and you'll learn a lot about how your device works. :good: