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There have been those that run into problems after installing the XXJP3I9000 update on the Samsung Captivate and attempt to reboot into recovery mode. The issue that they have is that since the Captivate has no physical home button to select an option like you can with the Galaxy S, you can't select an option, and therefore you can't reboot your device regularly. While I am in this same problem and have not figured out a solution, I have started this thread to post what knowledge I have about this issue so that others may help get this issue figured out. If anyone has information on how to fix this problem, please comment below. Let's fix this!
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First of all, the key combinations that standardly would work with the original captivate firmware will not work anymore. Pressing all three buttons (Vol+, Vol - and Power) will only power cycle the phone, that is, until you let up on the buttons. Pressing Vol+ and Vol- and then plugging your phone into the computer will also do nothing. (By nothing I mean will take you back to the recovery menu)
Every key combination will only take you back to the recovery menu, so key combinations seem to be out.
If you boot into recovery mode, take out the battery and put it back in, all the while keeping the phone plugged in to the computer, the phone will enter the "POWER RESET OR UNKNOWN UPLOAD MODE", which will show your device in windows as being a Samsung USB Composite Device and a Samsung Mobile Modem (gadget serial, Windows 7) While this may be helpful, you cannot run ODIN or ADB in this mode, nor does this allow disk access. If you have Samsung Kies installed, it will detect a device, but will never complete loading it.
Other information with this method: On the phone screen, as well as showing "POWER RESET OR UNKNOWN UPLOAD DEVICE" the screen will also show the following in red:
RST_STAT =0X1
PMIC_IRQ1 =0X0
PMIC_IRQ2 =0x0
PMIC_IRQ3 =0x4
PMIC_STATUS1 =0x40
PMIC_STATUS2 =0x2c
If this helps anybody, it was a pleasure
Another method I found briefly was that after installing Kies, and rebooting the phone into recovery mode (again) my computer detected four new devices, two of them being Samsung Android devices and one being a disk drive. Potentially, without freezing or error, the drivers that are included with the Kies software will detect and allow for disk management while the phone is in recovery mode. Three of the four devices installed without error for me, but the fourth, the actual Android device, continued to say "installing device" until I unplugged the phone out of frustration. It has since not detected those four devices again, and I have yet to figure out how to do that again. The nice thing about that was that although the adb.exe reboot download command did not work, adb.exe did detect the phone. if this is true then rebooting normally or into download mode should be easy.
The last thing I noticed is that button furthest to the left on the main screen on the captivate will close the recovery menu when pressed, and leave the background behind, and then will reopen the recovery menu when pressed again. This is showing me that the four touch buttons are operable, but not configured. If it were possible to reconfigure the actions that pressing these buttons do, then it would be easy to be able to reboot the device normally.
I have compiled information to the best of my ability, and here is a question to ask, that I think will help solve the problem. Can the captivate with I9000 2.2 software run adb in recovery mode?
Comments, Questions, and Most of all, answers would be appreciated for me, as well as for other users with the same problem as I. Hopefully, this thread can be the solving point for this problem.
Many Thanks,
TouchofDestiny
The n00b who isn't a n00b at all
An Update: The reason that the combinations don't work for me or either people is because they (and I) fail to install the captivate kernel, and that is making the volume power button controls useless.
same here i put froyo from the galaxy s i9000 and i cant change the rom or get into recoverymode because buttons dont work man this sucks and 3G or Edge doesnt work.....
You're problem is a little different. If you can't get into recovery mode, than that means you aren't in recovery mode, which means you can use ADB to enter download mode and use Odin to flash your phone. I have given up looking for a solution, and have sent my phone back to AT&T for a replacement. Since I'm still in my thirty day trial period, it doesn't matter if I used different firmware or not. Hopefully others won't get into the situation I had. For me, this thread is complete.
brandon9721 said:
same here i put froyo from the galaxy s i9000 and i cant change the rom or get into recoverymode because buttons dont work man this sucks and 3G or Edge doesnt work.....
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hi,
I solved the same problem doing this:
start odin.
take out battery. plug in USB. press both volume buttons. insert battery while pressing those buttons.
Done. download mode should appear.
yep, same boat
I am in the same position here. I downloaded the froyo leak and installed it with odin, no problem there. Upon startup into froyo, all was good, except my phone was stuck in horizontal mode until I tilted it vertical, *then* it would go horizontal. So basically I am 90 degrees off kilter. I decided to look around for another rom to try, and in the process managed to get stuck in recovery mode. Couldn't tell ya what firmware I have, just what is on the endless recovery screen that I cannot get out of!
I have no external microSD card, only the SIM card, and no way to get it recognized on my XP or win 7 system.
Really, really stuck here, guys. I do have the androidsdk installed, if there is a way to get it to reboot. As it is, adb cannot see the device, so I am looking at a truly bricked phone.
And yes, this is a US phone, which is why the power button and home button are not mapped (I assume).
I am DESPERATE for some help here!
and while I am at it...
I WAS able to get into download mode with the shovel guy originally by using the 2 volume keys+power, usb (odin up), battery in, release power.
No more. No key combo works.
Totally bricked the Samsung, which is supposed to be impossible!
pkrouse said:
I WAS able to get into download mode with the shovel guy originally by using the 2 volume keys+power, usb (odin up), battery in, release power.
No more. No key combo works.
Totally bricked the Samsung, which is supposed to be impossible!
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when you are on the i9000 rom the only button that will get you in download mode is the vol down
That's HUGE!
You, sir, are a gentleman, scholar, and all-round smart guy! How did I miss that? I coulda SWORN I was getting into download mode with both volume keys. I've never been so happy to see a little Dalek dude with a shovel in my LIFE. 2 minutes in the one-click installer and now I'm back in business!
Thanks for helping a terrified owner out, and preventing a trip to the AT&T store.
I cannot go to download mode
I have the same problem here. Stuck in the recovery mode after upgrade the froyo and had the orientation problem. How do you go into download mode or power reset or unknown upload mode? Any button combination doesnt seem to work for me.
How do I do?
Please HELP. I am struggling here
Thanks
xaga150 said:
I have the same problem here. Stuck in the recovery mode after upgrade the froyo and had the orientation problem. How do you go into download mode or power reset or unknown upload mode? Any button combination doesnt seem to work for me.
How do I do?
Please HELP. I am struggling here
Thanks
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the key to the i9000 rom/kernel button combo is VOL DOWN + using the USB trick. do not press vol up + down, just the down while you are plugging in the usb cable
i too am stuck in recovery mode. the only way i can get into download mode is by using both volume buttons. just holding the down button just sends me to revoery mode as well. how can i fix my phone in download mode?
nevermind, reinstalled 2.2 and it works now.
Eureka I got it...I think
I installed froyo 2.2 i9000 on my captivate and got stuck in recovery mode...power button doesnt select and when I hold down the up and down vol buttons I couldnt get the downloading icon anymore either. Then I remembered something from another post....
Home + Vol Down + Power = Downloading Icon
It worked for me....let me know if this helped....I'm officially unbricked.
Hey. I'm in the same boat. My Captivate has I9000 firmware running it and it won't run properly. I can't access the settings to enable USB debugging in order to boot in either Recovery or Download using adb and no button combination works for me. I can't use button combos to boot into either Recovery or Download mode.
Does anybody have any idea what is going on and how to fix this?
JPBetley said:
Hey. I'm in the same boat. My Captivate has I9000 firmware running it and it won't run properly. I can't access the settings to enable USB debugging in order to boot in either Recovery or Download using adb and no button combination works for me. I can't use button combos to boot into either Recovery or Download mode.
Does anybody have any idea what is going on and how to fix this?
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JPBentley-- Since the I9000 firmware is set to use physical buttons, and the Captivate doesn't contain any, once you get into recovery mode, you cannot get out. The standard Captivate key combinations to get into download mode do not work, as do the combinations to get into download mode via the I9000 firmware. Basically, you get to a dead end. Unless there is some way to flash the phone's ROM outside of download mode, which I doubt, your best bet is to return the phone for a replacement. After haggling around with AT&T for a while, they admitted that installing the I9000 ROM doesn't invalidate your warranty, so they should take it back. They did with mine, and now I'm running the official Froyo leak. Good luck with your new phone!
SOLUTION
For all those that are having this problem, Ive struggled with it & tried EVERY possible button combination & nothing worked.
The ONLY solutions I have found is to use a usb JIG. Take out the battery, sim card & sd card, plug in the Usb JIG & put the batter back in. Give it a couple of seconds & I'tll enter recovery mode without pushing any buttons. You dont even need to push the power button, it's that simple.
Here is an image of how to make one if you are electronically inclined, personally I am not so I found a local electronic parts store & they put on together for me.
1.bp.blogspot.com/_3KjgtwnRiWM/TNTyjkZGquI/AAAAAAAABL4/7NSmqrYmkmU/s640/i900.jpg
If you want, you can also buy one online, I cant post a link becuase Im a new member but just search for "samsung usb jig" on ebay.com & youll find plenty.
shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=samsung+usb+jig&_sacat=See-All-Categories
yes, i think you need to build a jig or buy one online if you want to play with custom rom. you may not need it now, but you may need it just in case.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...47234&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_511wt_1139
agustinpac said:
hi,
I solved the same problem doing this:
start odin.
take out battery. plug in USB. press both volume buttons. insert battery while pressing those buttons.
Done. download mode should appear.
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OMG you saved my life
thx so much for your post
I have the same problem, i can get into recovery mode. I can also get to download mode but Odin doesnt see my phone and neither does adb. By pulling the battery with no buttons pushed it goes straight into recovery mode. Looks like I have a brick now. If anybody has any suggestions please let me know.
drowe24 said:
I have the same problem, i can get into recovery mode. I can also get to download mode but Odin doesnt see my phone and neither does adb. By pulling the battery with no buttons pushed it goes straight into recovery mode. Looks like I have a brick now. If anybody has any suggestions please let me know.
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That's not even close to a brick. Are you using a usb port closest to the motherboard on your pc? Is your cable good? Make or buy a jig, that will put your phone into download mode.
Sent from my blazing fast Captivate running Continuum GB ROM using Tapatalk Pro
Hi there,
I've read through the stickies and searched for a solution to this problem. However, I am still unable to find a solution.
So, I my Galaxy S was rooted with One-Click Lag Fix and I decided to upgrade the firmware on it. I did not think that I needed to unroot it before I performed the update though. When the phone rebooted itself, it would show the Galaxy S start-up logo then go black. However, it does vibrate..at random intervals for some odd reason even if the screen is black.
tl;dr - Anyway, my Galaxy cannot go into recovery mode through the 3 buttons method and I can't seem to connect it to Kies or connect usb and whatnot. So, am I doomed to send it back for repairs? Or is there some way.
Thanks in advance!
materialism said:
Hi there,
I've read through the stickies and searched for a solution to this problem. However, I am still unable to find a solution.
So, I my Galaxy S was rooted with One-Click Lag Fix and I decided to upgrade the firmware on it. I did not think that I needed to unroot it before I performed the update though. When the phone rebooted itself, it would show the Galaxy S start-up logo then go black. However, it does vibrate..at random intervals for some odd reason even if the screen is black.
tl;dr - Anyway, my Galaxy cannot go into recovery mode through the 3 buttons method and I can't seem to connect it to Kies or connect usb and whatnot. So, am I doomed to send it back for repairs? Or is there some way.
Thanks in advance!
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Since it did start to boot, you might try seeing if you can issue the command
adb reboot recovery
Hmm I thought I have to enable/disable some USB settings (USB Debugging) before ADB Reboot Recovery works.
Nonetheless, I'll give that a try and report back. Thanks.
EDIT: No luck =\
I've only way to actually fix it is going into the recover mode and doing a factory reset .
Volume Down button + Home key + Power
Volume up button + Home key + Power
one of them goes to recovery other goes to the android installing thing.
try them both not sure which is which.
Yes I know. However, my I9000 is unable to do the 3 button method (some sort of bug/defect).
Basically, I have to bring it back for repairs =.=
Hi all,
My phone is now bricked with the phone--!--pc symbol on bootup, and I tried to search for solutions everywhere but no go. Please please help me with this as I don't have unlimited warranty on this phone... and won't be able to exchange...
So, the root of the problem is that the normal hold down volume + plug in cable OR hold down three buttons until it reboots twice to go into download mode will not work on my phone! nothing happens at all when I try that, (I even tried every single button combination and holding them for a period of time...)
Here is what happened:
I wanted to get Froyo running on my phone, so I tried to follow directions using the Froyo leak.
I tried to get it into download mode when the phone was running and operational. None of the normal methods would work (volume button OR three button combo)
I eventually got it to go into download mode by using adb, and typing command adb reboot download.
adb got my phone into download successfully, i see the shovel, odin sees my phone, i was happy and started the odin process on my computer.
3 hours passed... odin was stuck at DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET message, phone was still showing the shovel
I thought something must have gone wrong and tried to start the process again.
This is where I am now, adb will no longer recognize the phone, and none of the button combinations will get me to download mode, all I see is the phone--!--PC symbol on startup.
I really have tried to search everywhere for a solution to this, but other than the 2 buttons+plug cable OR three button reboot twice, I can't find another way that will either allow me to get into download mode and try odin again, or just do a factory recovery.
Thank you guys so much! I really need some help on this one....
I don't suppose your battery is dead? Something to try - put the phone on your charger for about half an hour, then take the battery out for about 5 minutes. Make sure your sim/sd cards are removed, then install the battery, hold both volume buttons down, and connect the usb cable from the pc to your phone.
You can also make a download jig, which I'm told works wonders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=819551
I was hoping that I don't have to go with the full out hardware solution, but I guess that's the way this piece of brick is demanding...
will update on what happened. thanks, kegobeer!
I am in the same boat as you are.....
jetzhou said:
I was hoping that I don't have to go with the full out hardware solution, but I guess that's the way this piece of brick is demanding...
will update on what happened. thanks, kegobeer!
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Jetzhou,
I am in the same boat as you are. So do you have your problem figured out yet???
I am in the hope that now you can shed some light for me.
Not sure if you guys have seen this post or not, but just in case you can get into download mode somehow, this may help get your 3 button working again. There may also be some people in the same position as you that may have posted in this tread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818439
Gr8Danes said:
Not sure if you guys have seen this post or not, but just in case you can get into download mode somehow, this may help get your 3 button working again. There may also be some people in the same position as you that may have posted in this tread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818439
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The problem is I can not get into the Download Mode. It is just stuck in the booting loop and I can not get in either Download or Recovery mode. As soon as I plug in the USB, the phone is shut down to the battery charging screen.
I am desperated!!!! Please help.
Bi_Dao said:
The problem is I can not get into the Download Mode. It is just stuck in the booting loop and I can not get in either Download or Recovery mode. As soon as I plug in the USB, the phone is shut down to the battery charging screen.
I am desperated!!!! Please help.
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The way I have been doing it is by getting Odin running, hold the vol up and vol down then plugging in the usb. I'm sure you may have already tried it that way, but just in case you used the pwr and one of the vol buttons instead, I thought I would mention it.
I know there have been problems with some people's hardware too, so there is a possibility of that.
not every phone has the button combo for download mode. it sounds like your boned, you should of talked to a few people before trying this kind of thing, its not hard but can easily be done wrong.
Look up on my posts in my profile I help a lot of people already going to download mode without using 3 button combo.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
Retore con2.3b6 with Rom Manager, flashed data back, reboot, now stopped at Samsung Recovery Utils mode, Installing Muti-CSC ..., been like this for an hour, be able to use volumn key move up and down, tried clear cache and re-install package, after reboot, goes back to the same screen. Tried to use odin but can't set to download mode anymore, eveytime reboot back to Samsung Recovery Utils.
Thanks for your help.
Possibly try this.
1. Pop the battery out
2. Start Odin on your PC.
3. After 30 seconds, insert battery. Do NOT power on.
4. Hold the volume up and volume down at same time.
5. Still holding the volume buttons, plug into USB. Release once it's in download mode.
Following these steps should force Odin to boot up the phone in download mode. At no point during this should you push the power button at all.
jeromekobriger said:
Possibly try this.
1. Pop the battery out
2. Start Odin on your PC.
3. After 30 seconds, insert battery. Do NOT power on.
4. Hold the volume up and volume down at same time.
5. Still holding the volume buttons, plug into USB. Release once it's in download mode.
Following these steps should force Odin to boot up the phone in download mode. At no point during this should you push the power button at all.
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You saved me, flashing to stock now, thanks.
BTW, do you have idea what's cause the problem?
Sorry, wish I knew. I've never had much luck with restores in dg's roms. I'm running Axura RC1 now, and had one successful restore on it.
Hi guys,
Great to hear you sorted out download mode mate.
I have the same problem, and can get into download mode, but Odin stock JF6 just freezes at DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET. It doesn't proceed any further and I have left it as long as 10 minutes.
I have reflashed to stock many times previously and it only takes a second to start flashing.
I'm so worried that my phone is permanently soft bricked... :-(
Any ideas?
Its the lagfix Causing problems.
Captivate: Assonance v3.1
AreikUSA said:
Its the lagfix Causing problems.
Captivate: Assonance v3.1
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Sure, but for now the reason why it wouldn't boot in the first place is irrelevant because my problem applies to any soft bricked phone.
Please see here for fix: (post)
ok guys i'm definitely a noob at this but i think i messed up this morning downloading the gb drivers for my captivate. i was running serendipity 6.4 and i was trying to flash serendipity VII. i didn't flash back to stock 2.1 eclair with odin one click before i followed the instructions on downloading the new drivers for the gb. i went to the power menu on the 6.4 and hit download mode and plugged in the usb. it went halfway through the downloading process and stopped. my screen was blank without the downloading sign anymore and on odin it was at a halt. i waited for about 45 minutes for it to proceed and nothing so i unplugged it. when i did the factory recovery screen came up and i could use the volume up and down buttons to scroll through the menu choices but it wouldn't let me use the power button to make a selection at all like the power button wasn't working. i pulled the battery and put it back in after a while and now all i get is the galaxy s gt-i9000 samsung screen and nothing else. it wont let me back into recovery or download mode no matter what button combo i try. did i brick my phone and is there a way for me to fix this without having to buy another one? any help would be greatly appreciated.( guys, i realized i messed up shortly after it was done and messed up that i should've odin one clicked it back to factory before i did this,but by that time it was too late.)
When a problem comes along, you must jig it!
You might want to look into buying/making a jig to get you to a place where you can repair your phone.
ok guys,the phone will let me get back into the recovery menu and but won't let me make a selection out of the menu with the power button and i still get the galaxy s screen but nothing else.
Please use more descriptive thread titles. Your title is useless to anyone doing a search.
440hsp said:
ok guys,the phone will let me get back into the recovery menu and but won't let me make a selection out of the menu with the power button and i still get the galaxy s screen but nothing else.
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Could you please quote/reply to these steps to getting into download mode?
From powered-off state, Hold V+/V-, insert USB cable
With battery out, Hold V+/V-, insert USB cable
From powered-off state, Hold V-, press & hold power button
If you haven't tried this combo yet, try using the home softkey in place of the power button with some of these combos - there have been reports of the power button getting remapped to the home softkey.
i apologize for the wrong topic but i have tried every way possible that is listed on xda and other forums to get into download mode with no luck. the only way i could is from the menu's on the roms that i had flashed before( cognition 4.5.3 and serendipity 6.4). i got it to work one time with the hold the vol. up and down buttons and the power button and inserting the battery and it never worked again. all i get is the charging symbol now,the galaxy s screen, or recovery screen. i did get it back into recovery and i tried the home soft button and nothing. then i hit the menu soft button and now it shows the android man and the exclamation point in the triangle. what can i do guys???
440hsp said:
i apologize for the wrong topic but i have tried every way possible that is listed on xda and other forums to get into download mode with no luck. the only way i could is from the menu's on the roms that i had flashed before( cognition 4.5.3 and serendipity 6.4). i got it to work one time with the hold the vol. up and down buttons and the power button and inserting the battery and it never worked again. all i get is the charging symbol now,the galaxy s screen, or recovery screen. i did get it back into recovery and i tried the home soft button and nothing. then i hit the menu soft button and now it shows the android man and the exclamation point in the triangle. what can i do guys???
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Just out of curiosity, when you're at the android man/exclamation screen, if you have odin up already and plug in the phone, does it recognize that the phone's attached?
If so, you might be able to use the odin one-click to get back to stock eclair.
i will try that and get back to you. hopefully it will work.
no sir. i plugged it in and the computer lets me know that i plugged in the usb but nothing registers on odin or the phone.
440hsp said:
no sir. i plugged it in and the computer lets me know that i plugged in the usb but nothing registers on odin or the phone.
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Hmm... I've reached the end of things I know to say to try. I'm assuming you've tried changing which port you're plugging your phone into on the computer?
Also, have you tried using adb to reboot to download? If not, get adb and use the "adb reboot download" command (I think...) to see if that gets you there. You may need to be in the recovery menu (if you can get back there), or the exclamation point / android guy might work, too.
Although, if you can get back to recovery, you might be able to mount your phone to the computer, drop a copy of CWM on there and reinstall that so you can have more options available to you.
Your best bet at this point might be to buy or build a jig. That should hopefully make the phone go into download mode so that you can get to where you need to be.
ok, now i'm a little confused. i've been sitting here with my phone in my pocket not messing with it. i pull it out of my pocket and it was off. i held the down volume button and the power button at the same time and it immediately started showing download mode. now i'm not near my computer with odin on it to flash it back to stock. lolol. this is depressing. now all i can hope is i can make it back to my computer before my battery runs out. i say this because my phone has always been hard to use the button combos to get it into download mode.
if i can get odin to flash it back to stock,i'll master clear it. question is should i root it again before flashing the GB bootloaders to install serendipity VII?
440hsp said:
if i can get odin to flash it back to stock,i'll master clear it. question is should i root it again before flashing the GB bootloaders to install serendipity VII?
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Nope, root isn't needed to flash that ROM.
440hsp said:
ok, now i'm a little confused. i've been sitting here with my phone in my pocket not messing with it. i pull it out of my pocket and it was off. i held the down volume button and the power button at the same time and it immediately started showing download mode. now i'm not near my computer with odin on it to flash it back to stock. lolol. this is depressing. now all i can hope is i can make it back to my computer before my battery runs out. i say this because my phone has always been hard to use the button combos to get it into download mode.
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Good to hear there's a glimmer of hope. If you do manage to get there, you might want to make an EFS backup before moving any further, just so you have one more tool in your arsenal of preventing phone problems.
After reading this whole thread I think your problem is that you now have gingerbread bootoaders and your button combos have changed and you don't know it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897
i think you may be right about having the GB bootloaders. now first question is how to i manage to make an efs back up? secondly, if i have the GB bootloaders then what do i do to flash the complete serendiptiy VII onto the phone? the reason why i ask is because the phone just quit downloading the flash in the middle of the download and that's when all hell broke loose. lolol. but you guys are right. i might just have a glimmer of hope.
If you do have the GB bootloaders, you should (theoretically) be able to get to download mode with the volume - & power button combination. This may take a little fiddling to find a timing after you've started the phone to find out when you can get to it.
As far as flashing Serendipity, you could try, but my advice would be to try and get to stock Eclair first and then go forwards. You're in a place with a lot of variables, and stock Eclair would be as variable-free as you're likely to get.
As far as backing up the EFS, under the CWM recovery menu, there's an option to make a nandroid backup. That's step 1. Once you've made the backup, just copy it from the clockworkmod folder to a safe place.
well i've got an update now. got everything back to factory 2.1 eclair and then i did a master reset in the phone because now i can't get into the recovery menu or the download menu and one click root will not work on my phone now at all. it keeps saying failed.
440hsp said:
well i've got an update now. got everything back to factory 2.1 eclair and then i did a master reset in the phone because now i can't get into the recovery menu or the download menu and one click root will not work on my phone now at all. it keeps saying failed.
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+1 on the jig...odin is very finicky and a jig will get you to download mode when you need it most...
buy or make one...worth every penny.