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Hi guys, i have been following closely to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980497 ...
that is the best rooting IS thread..
i opened this thread is to stop / a place for people to post question & discuss...
reason: because the thread link above... is a place for devs update infos..
so kindly please post question / discuss here instead..
P.S dont turn that great thread to a spam thread. thank you!
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FAQ - Credit l0st.prophet & timbo007up
Great idea jetty.
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The devs will (hopefully) keep this thread monitored all the time (at least i will), but dont expect a answer within seconds
We will try to answer all your questions here. And please keep the original thread nice and clean. Thanks to jenny we now have a thread that can be open for answers.
I hope jenny is willing to update the 1st post with faq's and alike. (i will try to provide them as much as possible). Thanks to knightrocker we have a lot of good basic stuff to tell about
So lets discuss and ask
p.s. yes i will be annoyed by people who don't read and ask the same question that has already been answered (probably multiple times )
So how do I root my IS? can someone give me a link please?
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Dude... Please read the topic ... We arent done rooting yet ... But it will come soon ... Please atleast a little before u post
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Hmmm ... Soo that secu_flag=1 in too deep down too bad ... I will have a look at kexec ... Sounds nice
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Hmmm did a bit of reading on kexec. Timbo i have a question, u said u are trying to use it, but u cant boot into it.
Maybe that is because it is already being used? From what i read, kexec sounds a LOT like the fastboot option on htc's to me. And i don think u can overlap two kernels over the original one. Maybe thats why it was never tried
Please correct me if im wrong.
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Knightrocker just wait mate we are busy with it
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I must say u: im not that much of a linux programmer, mainly tester, but getting to know it. We are just trying to use it (or misuse if u want) to run our code.
Dont know exactly how it works, but it is useable to bypass some of the HTC security that is build in. But like u said: its never been used before, but thats only partial true. It is being used on the X10, and 4 days ago they announced that they succesfull used it to run there own kernel and roms.
Currently there are people working on it and as usual there are only just a few persons who really know what there doing (not me included ) so also i have to wait. Just have a little more know how because i'm involved with it
As soon as i know how it exactly works i am willing to document it (if allowed by the devs though) because maybe we dont want HTC to know how we do it exactly, because it will probably be to easy to disabled again haha.
Heres a starter for the faq
Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.
How do I check if im s-on?
Disable the fastboot option in setting > application. Shutdown. Hold down vol-down + powerbutton until you get to a white screen. Read the first line. Should say something like “Vivo bla bla S-ON”. If it says you are S-OFF you are lucky .
What is responsible for the s-on?
The radio firmware (not accesable trough the system directly) sets an flag (secu_flag) to 1 or 0, 1 for s-on, 0 for s-off. To get s-offed we somehow need to change that flag. Currently not possible for our phones.
The kexec was allredy used on the Motorola Milestone, but the Radio was always hanging. But possibily it can help you guys looking at the sources http://and-developers.com/custom_rom:2ndboot
Nice info! Have not looked so good at it (yet) so will do now.
Further more: i know about the X10 since one of there developers is on our team too. So have not looked at other phones yet who uses it
Had an Milestone before my Desire
You can ask the guys on #milestone-modding on freenode on IRC if you need help, they made a lot of experience with this methode since more than six month.
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Heres a starter for the faq
Root, s-off what does that mean?
If you don’t know what root is, go away and do some research. Not going to cover that.
Temp-root/shell-root: By using the psneuter exploit we can get temp-root. This allows us to execute more commands and gives us access to the whole system.
S-on/S-off: Disable the security that is also known as the NAND lock. When S-on is enabled it prevents us to write to the system partition (and various others). They can be written but it will be discarded when you reboot. So we see it as not writeable.
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Then how it is possible to have a permanent root with S-ON on other devices like DHD?
The way I understood it,is that we can get root privileges but they vanish once we reboot cause they only existed in a volatile memory (since we can't write the code into the non-volatile area because of the S-ON)
This makes me ask: What's a permanent root then?
It is possible on other devices because it (the radio) can be somewhat accessed within userspace (kernel/programs) and than sets the flag to s-off. But it is required to exploit the radio so that it will do what we say. All current know exploits don't work on our phone. So its currently not possible on the new HTC devices.
So it is possible to access certain parts of the phone that are locked. but it requires a lot of skill to get there and than you must find something useable to change the flag.
Permanent root is what it says: stay root even after reboot There were times (mostly early cracking of new (currently old) devices) that people could temporary turn of the flag, set root in the system and that way gain permanent root. But most of the time your not very far away from fully s-off.
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There were times (mostly early cracking of new (currently old) devices) that people could temporary turn of the flag, set root in the system and that way gain permanent root.
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If you were a chick I would ask you to marry me for such awesome answer
Fancy a beer?
@androf : lol bro, ur crazy.
I have more questions if some1 dosent mind answering. From what i read, kexec skips the firmware part, thus we skip security. But about flashing a custom recovery? Will kexec still be effective or will u use it just to root and then chuck it?
Heck, ive learnt more from this IS section than i did in a whole year of science classes in school
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@Androf, ty but no thanks dont have any brains left at the moment and a beer would not help me to return it and your welcome!
@knightrocker: this thread is made for questions (the other one is more for the news and progress) so burn out those questions, i assume it still takes some time to get trough though. So until then i'm trying to help everybody here with there questions regarding to it and a appreciate the thoughts about how to get trough.
p.s. you can pm me ofc when u have questions, but i think that you should post them here, so other people can learn too. I'm saying that you have to wait for something to come off that uses the kexec method. Currently being worked on so not much info to be given yet. Dont crop those questions and put them out. Will appreciate if you have more than one question post them in one post though
@mr stylo: we have one the lead devs of the X10 cracking team, i assume he knows where to find the info. but nevertheless its a good learning course for me
@timbo: ok bossman. I will ask any questions i have to make sure every1 learns with me. And ill try to keep it a little compact as u say. I will read some more on this kexec thing. Im glad u guys found that dev dude from the x10. Say hi to him for me please
Btw... Just so i get right, u said i could burn off any questiojs i have and learn as much as can yes? Sry... But imma little sleepy
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I've read some threads mentioning gold card and installing official roms meant for other regions. Can we have an FAQ about that in this thread too?
Appreciate you guys collecting info here
I would ask in the thread but I don't have enough posts to ask in there. I have the verizon version, by the way.
Polasja said:
I would ask in the thread but I don't have enough posts to ask in there. I have the verizon version, by the way.
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Not sure what you mean by that.
And no, PAC works on unlocked BLs only. Unless someone makes it SS compatible
Well ****. I can't unlock my bootloader, unfortunately. Do you think that motorola will allow all phones to unlock the bootloader later on?
Polasja said:
Well ****. I can't unlock my bootloader, unfortunately. Do you think that motorola will allow all phones to unlock the bootloader later on?
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Unfortunately, its not up to Motorola alone. BL unlock has to be granted by the carrier too. And I dont see VZ doing it anytime soon. Then again, with the Moto X, it doesnt matter all that much. You loose stuff like Active Notification and Touchless Control when you flash AOSP. So, not sure why anyone would want that. Some of the customization that ROMs offer can be had through XPosed Framework.
Someone please feel to correct me if I am wrong.
That would make sense as to why the bootloader hasn't been unlocked yet. I am not really familiar with how all of this stuff works. One of the main reasons why I root my phone is so I can mess with the kernels and achieve better battery life and performance, but I can see why people wouldn't want to switch to AOSP or AOKP because of that Active Notification. Thanks for the helpful information and the quick replies.
Guys i need to know if its possible to root the phone and unroot / take it back to warranty condition WITHOUT reflashing and unlocking bootloader.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCChDxc2_HE heres what i've found about unroot... but i am not sure in this method will it completely remove root binary and take phone back to warrantyN mode ?
Is it that hard question ?
tuncay_93 said:
Is it that hard question ?
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No, but we get sick and tired of people asking the same questions over and over again because they are too lazy to actually put the effort in to searching and reading properly
Also, don't 'bump' your own thread within 24 hours - read the rules if you're not sure why.
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No, but we get sick and tired of people asking the same questions over and over again because they are too lazy to actually put the effort in to searching and reading properly
Also, don't 'bump' your own thread within 24 hours - read the rules if you're not sure why.
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Ok, Boss then lets don't ask questions in this section and rename it to MrKnowItAll section ok?
I just couldt find how to root and unroot without unlocking and flashing and made a thread in questions section to ask if you do not mind...
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MrKnowItAll
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That's the whole idea of a Q&A.. With every new (original) question the knowledge database grows. This allows other people to just search through the threads to find their answer. It's actually an easier way to find answers then creating a new thread, since you don't have to wait for reactions and usually the follow up questions are already elaborately discussed..
On topic: I believe some superusers have an option to unroot? And otherwise just reflashing stock is just as easy.
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balloon27 said:
That's the whole idea of a Q&A.. With every new (original) question the knowledge database grows. This allows other people to just search through the threads to find their answer. It's actually an easier way to find answers then creating a new thread, since you don't have to wait for reactions and usually the follow up questions are already elaborately discussed..
On topic: I believe some superusers have an option to unroot? And otherwise just reflashing stock is just as easy.
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Alright then i renamed the thread. Because my question is about walkaround reflashing and unlocking bootloader.
Is it possible simply to root and unroot without reflashing and unlocking ?
When you root phone your root file is on system partition and you need to format it If you want to remove root.Hard reset don't format partition so that won't work.Update software should work but I am not sure.SuperS have ability to remove itself so if you root your phone with it you can done it fastest way.Also don't be smartass and mock people who are telling you to search for answer before posting topic and asking for help.It I is not polite.After all you are asking for help from us not the way around.
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dimi89 said:
When you root phone your root file is on system partition and you need to format it If you want to remove root.Hard reset don't format partition so that won't work.Update software should work but I am not sure.SuperS have ability to remove itself so if you root your phone with it you can done it fastest way.Also don't be smartass and mock people who are telling you to search for answer before posting topic and asking for help.It I is not polite.After all you are asking for help from us not the way around.
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on topic: So i am on latest 4.1.2 if i force the support tool (from LG) will it reflash the phone with stock frimware after root ?
As i remember i read somewhere that actually it is possible to use some kind of "upgrade recovery" option with this tool which reflash phone.
off topic: Im not playing it smartass i've searched and couldn't find what i need to know. then i posted this thread.
So maybe someone should check if a thread exist actually without beign too lazy. before saying that he's sick of people.
And also renamed my thread to be more suitable to people who will be searching.
tuncay_93 said:
off topic: Im not playing it smartass i've searched and couldn't find what i need to know. then i posted this thread.
So maybe someone should check if a thread exist actually without beign too lazy. before saying that he's sick of people.
And also renamed my thread to be more suitable to people who will be searching.
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You did NOT search!! Put the word "unroot" into Q&A forum search box and you get 60 hits, at least 5 of which on the first page give the answer.
SimonTS said:
You did NOT search!! Put the word "unroot" into Q&A forum search box and you get 60 hits, at least 5 of which on the first page give the answer.
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simon its too late mate... i renamed my thread alredy and i think you did not read that its about walkaound flashing and unlocking.
@tuncay93 in LG update tool should be option "force update" or something like that.BTW I think easiest method is just to flesh.dz file since it will format system partition for sure and you need only drivers that you must install even if you want to update regularly your software.Download SuperSu it should replace your current root app and then from SuperSu choose "remove SuperSu" .That is all I can think off.
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tuncay_93 said:
simon its too late mate... i renamed my thread alredy and i think you did not read that its about walkaound flashing and unlocking.
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What is "[Q]Walkaround flashing and ulocking bootloader for Root>Unroot" supposed to mean? I walk around with my phone while I do it?
Changing the title of the thread doesn't change your laziness or your attitude.
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What is "[Q]Walkaround flashing and ulocking bootloader for Root>Unroot" supposed to mean? I walk around with my phone while I do it?
Changing the title of the thread doesn't change your laziness or your attitude.
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I don't want to be mean but just STFU you can't tell me where i can post and when i can not.
And also you can't tell me what i can post and what i can not. ok ? now go QQ.
tuncay_93 said:
I don't want to be mean but just STFU you can't tell me where i can post and when i can not.
And also you can't tell me what i can post and what i can not. ok ? now go QQ.
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Really? Simon is a long time member and he know what he's talking about. He might sound a bit mean sometimes but he's right!
I for myself created like one thread asking a question and the other things I sorted out myself with brief searching, reading and trying.
This question here has been answered already.
You're asking how to unroot without flashing back the stock ROM or unlocking bootloader.
It has been answered in this thread as well and a search (not just on XDA but on Google as well) would've get you to the same answers.
Simon can't tell you where to post and where not but he does as he is trying to get newer or ignorant XDA members to follow the rules.
And one of those rules is to search.
Not just a five minute look but a brief search even in related threads etc.
You won't learn anything by just asking and asking again but by trying and figuring out yourself.
So please do us a favor and stop posting unnecessary questions.
@laufersteppenwolf
I think this has gone way too far.
I know you're in hospital as far as I remember but maybe you can clean this thread if you get time to do so.
Thanks
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Omario-242 said:
Really? Simon is a long time member and he know what he's talking about. He might sound a bit mean sometimes but he's right!
I for myself created like one thread asking a question and the other things I sorted out myself with brief searching, reading and trying.
This question here has been answered already.
You're asking how to unroot without flashing back the stock ROM or unlocking bootloader.
It has been answered in this thread as well and a search (not just on XDA but on Google as well) would've get you to the same answers.
Simon can't tell you where to post and where not but he does as he is trying to get newer or ignorant XDA members to follow the rules.
And one of those rules is to search.
Not just a five minute look but a brief search even in related threads etc.
You won't learn anything by just asking and asking again but by trying and figuring out yourself.
So please do us a favor and stop posting unnecessary questions.
@laufersteppenwolf
I think this has gone way too far.
I know you're in hospital as far as I remember but maybe you can clean this thread if you get time to do so.
Thanks
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1.By the first few words you said i suspect that you define the pople by their registration date at XDA.
2. I didn't found answer to my question thats why i made thread. [Ans. It is actually possible SuperSu will remove root [not sure what kind of remove but still....[ Flashing with support tool is the way but is still flashing]
3. I am not ignorant and new at XDA. I am new to 4x HD section. Also without reading and asking you can't learn anything. Thats the point of the forum.
4. And i think it was necessary question. Since i've searched and couldn't find what i needed to know.
Finding related threads about "How to root", "How to unroot" all say just unlock reflash and relock. Why ? I've just find out today that i can simply run support tool and all will be fine. (Also mine is 446-92 FW I'm not sure if relockable yet.)
Also that standing behind someone just because he says few words that he has read at "Rules" In wrong place....
And just because its old member it's not cool mate im sorry but thats what i think.
Now if moderators think this is unnecesery thread can remove it.
dimi89 said:
@tuncay93 in LG update tool should be option "force update" or something like that.BTW I think easiest method is just to flesh.dz file since it will format system partition for sure and you need only drivers that you must install even if you want to update regularly your software.Download SuperSu it should replace your current root app and then from SuperSu choose "remove SuperSu" .That is all I can think off.
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Ye thats what i find out today theres walkaround for flashing and unlocking bootloader.
In lg support tool click options then upgrade recovery and you are good to go for warranty or whatever you need it for.
tuncay_93 said:
1.By the first few words you said i suspect that you define the pople by their registration date at XDA.
2. I didn't found answer to my question thats why i made thread. [Ans. It is actually possible SuperSu will remove root [not sure what kind of remove but still....[ Flashing with support tool is the way but is still flashing]
3. I am not ignorant and new at XDA. I am new to 4x HD section. Also without reading and asking you can't learn anything. Thats the point of the forum.
4. And i think it was necessary question. Since i've searched and couldn't find what i needed to know.
Finding related threads about "How to root", "How to unroot" all say just unlock reflash and relock. Why ? I've just find out today that i can simply run support tool and all will be fine. (Also mine is 446-92 FW I'm not sure if relockable yet.)
Also that standing behind someone just because he says few words that he has read at "Rules" In wrong place....
And just because its old member it's not cool mate im sorry but thats what i think.
Now if moderators think this is unnecesery thread can remove it.
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Let's get behind this rules etc thing but if you'd read more about root function and flashing a stock firmware you would've know that root is installed in system and that a simple reflash unroots your system.
That's what I mean with reading and understanding the way your modified android device works.
I don't know if it's just me but I did know nearly everything about root before even bothering to root my device just in case if something goes wrong I exactly know what to do.
The answers are out there. Most questions can be solved by searching but many users don't do it or they don't have enough knowledge of Android to understand the given output of their searches.
And no I don't define people by their registration date but by the way they post on XDA.
And I'm not supporting Simon because he has said a few words about rules. I'm supporting him because he's been a long time member and follows the rules.
And sorry but if somebody is criticizing your thread in a forum like XDA and you're responding with "STFU" shows me that you're ignorant and lacking respect.
The fact that Simon is doing this is to keep people from posting 10 threads about the same question (like they tend to do) but search and know what they are doing.
The problem with the community is that most new users just follow tutorials but don't know what to do if something goes wrong (and believe me there always will be something that goes wrong) and then they create threads like "help I bricked my 4X HD".
Like I said if you'd know what rooting actually does inside your device you'd know what to do with information you get when you search for unroot.
Let's assume you are a new user and you now install SuperSU and somehow it messes something up.
What will you do? Do you know enough to mess with an android device? I really don't want you to take it personal but that's the way you should think about it.
And I have one question: Why do you want to unroot your device without reflashing stock firmware and think that unlocking boot loader would be necessary to unroot?
(and just one hint: it's not "walkaround" but workaround what you mean I guess)
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Omario-242 said:
Let's get behind this rules etc thing but if you'd read more about root function and flashing a stock firmware you would've know that root is installed in system and that a simple reflash unroots your system.
That's what I mean with reading and understanding the way your modified android device works.
I don't know if it's just me but I did know nearly everything about root before even bothering to root my device just in case if something goes wrong I exactly know what to do.
The answers are out there. Most questions can be solved by searching but many users don't do it or they don't have enough knowledge of Android to understand the given output of their searches.
And no I don't define people by their registration date but by the way they post on XDA.
And I'm not supporting Simon because he has said a few words about rules. I'm supporting him because he's been a long time member and follows the rules.
And sorry but if somebody is criticizing your thread in a forum like XDA and you're responding with "STFU" shows me that you're ignorant and lacking respect.
The fact that Simon is doing this is to keep people from posting 10 threads about the same question (like they tend to do) but search and know what they are doing.
The problem with the community is that most new users just follow tutorials but don't know what to do if something goes wrong (and believe me there always will be something that goes wrong) and then they create threads like "help I bricked my 4X HD".
Like I said if you'd know what rooting actually does inside your device you'd know what to do with information you get when you search for unroot.
Let's assume you are a new user and you now install SuperSU and somehow it messes something up.
What will you do? Do you know enough to mess with an android device? I really don't want you to take it personal but that's the way you should think about it.
And I have one question: Why do you want to unroot your device without reflashing stock firmware and think that unlocking boot loader would be necessary to unroot?
(and just one hint: it's not "walkaround" but workaround what you mean I guess)
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Okey I know what Root is. I have been rooting and unlocking all my phones i've used to switch roms. (I know that reflashing is the solution)
But the problem is as i said my 4x HD isn't EUR-XXX it's 446-92 (Asian one i suspect)
So unlocking is possible but couldn't really find info about relocking.
And i was in need of workaround as you said (My english is not good) Because my power button its not responsive and the phone still has warranty and that button its going to brick it keeps going more and more unresponsive.
So i didn't wanted to unlock and reflash because i may void my warranty in that case i still need it.
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Okey I know what Root is. I have been rooting and unlocking all my phones i've used to switch roms. (I know that reflashing is the solution)
But the problem is as i said my 4x HD isn't EUR-XXX it's 446-92 (Asian one i suspect)
So unlocking is possible but couldn't really find info about relocking.
And i was in need of workaround as you said (My english is not good) Because my power button its not responsive and the phone still has warranty and that button its going to brick it keeps going more and more unresponsive.
So i didn't wanted to unlock and reflash because i may void my warranty in that case i still need it.
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You don't need to unlock anything in order to reflash the stock firmware with LG Support Tool.
That's what I was talking about. You don't know this because you didn't read enough about this device.
And about your warranty: if you'd search in that topic you may acknowledge that rooting doesn't void your warranty in most places as long as the failure (in your case the power button) isn't related to the slight software modification.
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You don't need to unlock anything in order to reflash the stock firmware with LG Support Tool.
That's what I was talking about. You don't know this because you didn't read enough about this device.
And about your warranty: if you'd search in that topic you may acknowledge that rooting doesn't void your warranty in most places as long as the failure (in your case the power button) isn't related to the slight software modification.
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Ye but i know here in my country all warranty providers are just looking for something that may void it and just root will void it i am sure.
But never thought support tool works after rooting or modification on software. i did not even think about searching for that you are right now.
Guys can anyone can tell me why 4.3 root is taking this much time?
Please @DooMLoRD
Just give us an updated toolkit
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Guys can anyone can tell me why 4.3 root is taking this much time?
Please @DooMLoRD
Just give us an updated toolkit
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hey .. there is a way to root 4.3 .. Mine is rooted already it`s not an easy way but can be rooted if you can unlock the bootloader.
here is a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427995
There is also a thread on rooting 4.3 without unlocking bootloader. It was posted by @sijav
But they are all for either unlocked bootloader or by flashing Ftfs and they are quite long procedures.
We want instant solution like vroot or doomlord 's awesome toolkit.
If you understand what I meant.
Patience
Then I suggest to patiently wait. Because even the Z/ZL People are also waiting
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Then I suggest to patiently wait. Because even the Z/ZL People are also waiting
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You see the thing is that Z/ZL people will get it for sure but it is very uncertain for Zr because we dont get everything.
Like Roms and kernels etc.
Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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You see the thing is that Z/ZL people will get it for sure but it is very uncertain for Zr because we dont get everything.
Like Roms and kernels etc.
Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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I feel u mate. Instead raising our voice, rather raise our knowledge on how to develop better. The support from developers are very few because this device is not launch to some countries.
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Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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does doomlord or some other root dev owe u money or something? or do they work for you? have some damn respect
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does doomlord or some other root dev owe u money or something? or do they work for you? have some damn respect
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This one I have to agree.
chewdaniel said:
does doomlord or some other root dev owe u money or something? or do they work for you? have some damn respect
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Sorry I didn't mean to be offensive
I'm just freaking out because multi -window tweak for xposed Just came out and I want it.
And also anim mod and auto hide keys are my favourite apps and I can't install them.
I'm very sorry to be rude.
Hope you'll forgive me.
nope. u didn't offend me.
just that u need to understand most devs do what they do as a hobby, and sharing it with the community. demanding that they do things (and using offensive language) is not cool bro...
since 4.3 they've been TRYING to get root to work with the toolkit (and also things like kingo, vroot) but it seems sony's security is just too tough for them to crack right now. u make it sound as if they don't want to do it... lol
read the guide by sijav as posted above. that will help. it's troublesome, yes, but it will do the job.
hello!
Any updates?
kraken000 said:
Thats why we need to raise our voices.
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raise your voices? Frankly you don't even have permission to **** here!!
well guess what? you do raise your voice and dev's can simply stop any development on this device!! then you can develop your phone yourself, ... like changing wallpaper, or installing some cool app :cyclops:
looks like you're paying them to do something and they're not do their job properly!!!
(I'm not telling this you specifically there are lot's of users like you here)
anyways here's the deal:
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you can do root very much easily,
unlock your bootloader, (which will result in void warranty and lost DRMs and side effects which will cause in global warming!!)
flash a custom kernel, (any kernel that works with ZR and has a working recovery)
go to Recovery and then flash superSu Root,
flash back your stock kernel so your poor device can boot!!!
simple isn't it? no need to hack the device!!!!
this rooting method has been officially announced by Sony website!
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it's all about locked bootloader
you need to greatly appreciate Doomlord and those chinese devs that made vroot or kingo so 4.2.2 or 4.1.2 can be root easily, (they do some sort of hack!!)
because of that we can have root with lock bootloader for 4.3!! or else we had no choice but to unlock our bootloaders!!
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about update, if there was any, you have been noticed by now as many many and many users are waiting for it!!!
sijav said:
raise your voices? Frankly you don't even have permission to **** here!!
well guess what? you do raise your voice and dev's can simply stop any development on this device!! then you can develop your phone yourself, ... like changing wallpaper, or installing some cool app :cyclops:
looks like you're paying them to do something and they're not do their job properly!!!
(I'm not telling this you specifically there are lot's of users like you here)
anyways here's the deal:
--------------------------------------------------------------------
you can do root very much easily,
unlock your bootloader, (which will result in void warranty and lost DRMs and side effects which will cause in global warming!!)
flash a custom kernel, (any kernel that works with ZR and has a working recovery)
go to Recovery and then flash superSu Root,
flash back your stock kernel so your poor device can boot!!!
simple isn't it? no need to hack the device!!!!
this rooting method has been officially announced by Sony website!
--------------------------------------------------------------------
it's all about locked bootloader
you need to greatly appreciate Doomlord and those chinese devs that made vroot or kingo so 4.2.2 or 4.1.2 can be root easily, (they do some sort of hack!!)
because of that we can have root with lock bootloader for 4.3!! or else we had no choice but to unlock our bootloaders!!
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about update, if there was any, you have been noticed by now as many many and many users are waiting for it!!!
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Hey
I'm very sorry man
I've apologised earlier
See I didn't mean to be rude or offensive,it's just that I'm freaking out....
Please forgive me if you can
And your work is awesome...
I apologise to all the developers like doomlord etc.
#thehappyway
First and foremost, let me start off by saying.. I already HAVE used the search function to find threads related to this topic, however, most of them are very outdated, and don't give a straight-up answer to the question. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Z1S bootloader has a method for unlocking as of now. My question however is this... Are there any Z1S ( Not Z1) Compatible custom roms? Do regular Z1 roms work on the Z1S? and if so, is there a special procedure in making them do so? I just want to know this because I'm most likely gonna unlock my bootloader. and I would like to install a custom rom on my Z1S if possible, but I cannot afford to be taking the risk of bricking my phone if there is virtually no chance of a custom rom working for it.....
So... Any clear answers that can be given would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!
As far as I know...
The Z1s has never been unlocked. I have this phone and have had it since the beginning and it hasn't been unlocked. I'm pretty sure after many tries everyone finally gave up.