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Short version:
Before you bought the Xperia SP, which other mobiles were you taking into consideration and what made you choose (or not) the SP?
Long version:
Here's the thing: today I was ready - I finally went to a shop and proudly said "I want to buy the Xperia SP". Unfortunately they only had the white version so I'll have to wait one more week. This was quite disappointing because I really, really wanted it so badly and since I now have another week to decide maybe there are other/better alternatives among midrange smartphones?
Thanks!
Tons of others phones.
Optimus G, but no card slot. Nexus 4, same problem.
Galaxy S4, unfortunately far too expensive.
MI2-A, no SD slot, again.
Motorola Razr HD, CPU sucks. Same with the HTC One X+.
HTC One? No way to get a 64gb here in ****ty Europe.
So, well, the SP is the only 720p phone with a microSD slot, and a good built quality that I can afford.
Only big problem: devs support. We have DoomLord, but no one else. I'm afraid we will never get CyanogenMod.
Some time ago I've spoken with fxp. They said they need to buy phone to start development.
This device is fresh so don't expect development will start from day of release.
BTW. XSP is middle range device... This is next reason to start development later then e.g. XZ relatively.
I was considering buy N4 or XSP or wait for some time and collect more money and buy SGN2 or XZ.
C5303 is great device, powerfull, supported LTE, nice looking, with 'big' screen, made from good quality materials, with usefull transparent iluminated bar, with good quality camera and other hardware and released with 4.1.2 (Google said that phones need to be upgraded for 18 mounths from release so we can expect something above then 4.2.2 with this specs).
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Fealakwen said:
Tons of others phones.
Optimus G, but no card slot. Nexus 4, same problem.
Galaxy S4, unfortunately far too expensive.
MI2-A, no SD slot, again.
Motorola Razr HD, CPU sucks. Same with the HTC One X+.
HTC One? No way to get a 64gb here in ****ty Europe.
So, well, the SP is the only 720p phone with a microSD slot, and a good built quality that I can afford.
Only big problem: devs support. We have DoomLord, but no one else. I'm afraid we will never get CyanogenMod.
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Some time ago I've spoken with fxp. They said they need to buy phone to start development.
This device is fresh so don't expect development will start from day of release.
BTW. XSP is middle range device... This is next reason to start development later then e.g. XZ relatively.
I was considering buy N4 or XSP or wait for some time and collect more money and buy SGN2 or XZ.
C5303 is great device, powerfull, supported LTE, nice looking, with 'big' screen, made from good quality materials, with usefull transparent iluminated bar, with good quality camera and other hardware and released with 4.1.2 (Google said that phones need to be upgraded for 18 mounths from release so we can expect something above then 4.2.2 with this specs).
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Well I am thinking of getting this one. And I see no existing PA or CM support. But I used to compile my own ROMs for my Nexus (which is dead and the reason why I am getting this one) so I think I can compile for this ROM too, the only difficulty being the illumination bar API, on which I have never wrked till date.
Plus its a relatively new phone, so we will see more action once other devs buy the device too!
Cheers mates!
charliebigpot said:
Short version:
Before you bought the Xperia SP, which other mobiles were you taking into consideration and what made you choose (or not) the SP?
Long version:
Here's the thing: today I was ready - I finally went to a shop and proudly said "I want to buy the Xperia SP". Unfortunately they only had the white version so I'll have to wait one more week. This was quite disappointing because I really, really wanted it so badly and since I now have another week to decide maybe there are other/better alternatives among midrange smartphones?
Thanks!
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Are you really going to recant about buying an XPERIA™ SP just for waiting a week to get the color you want? Really? I must wait another half year to get mine and it isn't available here in Mexico still. I don't want to be mean but don't be like that. I'd wish to have your luck, about being in your situation.
There aren't better options for a midrange smartphone with the potential of this XSP, really, it'll be very worthy to wait for it.
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sarkar1990 said:
Well I am thinking of getting this one. And I see no existing PA or CM support. But I used to compile my own ROMs for my Nexus (which is dead and the reason why I am getting this one) so I think I can compile for this ROM too, the only difficulty being the illumination bar API, on which I have never wrked till date.
Plus its a relatively new phone, so we will see more action once other devs buy the device too!
Cheers mates!
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... But there is no need to implement illumination api in apps/system in begin stage. First we need fully working cm then we can think about transparent bar and it's lights Think this is not so hard to implement it. Sony release api and documentation also great will be see floating touch working like in stock rom (gloves mode).
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As of now, Best mid range phone is still SP. S3 is a bit more expensive, but SP is better than it (except for camera and if you like amoled). If you want you can wait for HTC one mini, although its only 4.3 inches and price is not yet revealed.
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cidane said:
As of now, Best mid range phone is still SP. S3 is a bit more expensive, but SP is better than it (except for camera and if you like amoled). If you want you can wait for HTC one mini, although its only 4.3 inches and price is not yet revealed.
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I believe the HTC to be far more expensive, without any expansion port, and with a huge bezel.
S3 is a good choice, yea. But the S4 mini is a complete joke. No HD, and the worst pricing ever.
Maybe, for someone that is not in a hurry, waiting for the X Phone could be a good idea. But for now, SP (and S3) rules.
Hmmm, I 1st look at N4, but it cost as much as a XZL, not worth it I guess, but getting either one will blow my budget. so I then get an XV, after three weeks a member of my local Facebook group is interested to swap his SP with My V.. He is a mobile seller who get the SP for free, but he need a waterproof phone as he ride a bike. So that how I get the SP.
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well, today I bought the SP - I like it a lot, the only downsides are:
- WIFI signal
- Camera is quite weak
- can't connect it to my Mac?! the option to access the storage in order to transfer files isn't there.. (tg there's airdroid)
I'll try it over the weekend but if the wifi is still an issue (intermittent signal 5m from the router with no walls in between!) I'll give it back and will look for an alternative.. we'll see
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well, today I bought the SP - I like it a lot, the only downsides are:
- WIFI signal
- Camera is quite weak
- can't connect it to my Mac?! the option to access the storage in order to transfer files isn't there.. (tg there's airdroid)
I'll try it over the weekend but if the wifi is still an issue (intermittent signal 5m from the router with no walls in between!) I'll give it back and will look for an alternative.. we'll see
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Battery: ok, I installed plenty of apps and had exactly 70% left. Oddly enough this morning I had 71% left so there's a calibration issue. Now after 5 hours of occasional 3g, 20 min of offline music and some messaging it's at 29%.
Photos : not impressed
Wifi and 3g: connectivity is very poor.. my old Desire was a lot better and reliable
Screen: it's on auto brightness and honestly note while typing this message the luminosity changed about 10 times, pretty annoying.
Audio: excellent!
Overheating: no
(While writing this message the battery dropped to 26%)
I am seriously considering to give it back, I like the phone but the connectivity issue seems to be h hardware related.. I'm a moment of madness I even thought about buying an iPhone5 instead..
charliebigpot said:
Battery: ok, I installed plenty of apps and had exactly 70% left. Oddly enough this morning I had 71% left so there's a calibration issue. Now after 5 hours of occasional 3g, 20 min of offline music and some messaging it's at 29%.
Photos : not impressed
Wifi and 3g: connectivity is very poor.. my old Desire was a lot better and reliable
Screen: it's on auto brightness and honestly note while typing this message the luminosity changed about 10 times, pretty annoying.
Audio: excellent!
Overheating: no
(While writing this message the battery dropped to 26%)
I am seriously considering to give it back, I like the phone but the connectivity issue seems to be h hardware related.. I'm a moment of madness I even thought about buying an iPhone5 instead..
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About battery... Battery live is good - 2+ days standard usage: sms, calling, 3g always on, about 50 minutes wifi activity, stamina on, some photos and movies.
And when I got my phone first 2 days was waring... Battery was very week. I have charged my phone about 3-4 times. And on third day battery is ok strange but I'm happy it now working correctly.
Mobile signal is ok. Like in my previous Xperia S.
Wifi is week - waiting for SW update.
Autobrightness must be improved, this is not working properly.
Camera is not so good, waiting for SW update.
Usefull transparent illumination bar. VERY VERY GOOD IDEA TO PLACE IT IN THIS PHONE!!!!
Umm. XPERIA ZR would be a perfect alternative
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Umm. XPERIA ZR would be a perfect alternative
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Yep, indeed. Only that it's slightly bigger, heavier and more expensive. But apart from that it looks like the waterproof twin of the SP Actually, if the wifi problems still hold on I might go back to the store and try to get the ZR instead.
Well, today I gave my SP back and fetched a S4 Mini instead.
I'm not saying all SPs have the same issues as mine had, but the ones that I had (below) were pretty severe and after talking twice to the Xperia customer service and 2 factory resets they were like "just return it". I guess I was unlucky but here's what went wrong and what I really liked:
What I liked:
- Battery: after 2 full days I still had 12% left
- Screen: it's simply wonderful
- Call quality: The sound was really really good
What went wrong:
- WiFI was just horrible as I often lost signal even with the router being 3 meters away. I tried changing the router's channel/frequency but that didn't help, even my old HTC Desire has much better WiFI signal.
- Multitasking: Couldn't use 3g with Chrome (2-3 tabs open) and listen to Google Music (playing music from the SD card) at the same time as it always closed Google Music. I guess I should have seen that one coming with 1gb RAM only.
- Call issues: today all of a sudden I could only hear the other person speaking when using headphones or by activating the speaker
Hello, I am looking to switch to Tmobile US and I really was drawn to the Xperia Z line of phones being an iPhone guy normally I liked the build quality of them.
My question is, since the Xperia Z1 isn't on Tmobile as of now, should I get the Z and just wait for the Z2 to come out or should I hold out for the likely release of the Z1 on Tmobile? There have been quite a few leaked press shots and other reasons to believe the Z1 is coming to Tmobile US but who knows how long it could be based on the Xperia Z being 5 months late after global release.
I want to switch ASAP from ATT but I don't want to buy the Z and regret it when the Z1 comes out. Is the Z1 that big of an upgrade for anyone who owned the xperia Z? I am coming from iPhone and battery and smoothness are important and those two things seem to be what the Z1 improved on with the Snapdragon 800 and larger battery.
Thanks.
Don't buy Xperia Z. Wait for Z1. It's much better and smoother. I sold my Xperia Z to buy Z1 and I can say that buying Xperia Z is stupid.
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snobrdr2324 said:
Hello, I am looking to switch to Tmobile US and I really was drawn to the Xperia Z line of phones being an iPhone guy normally I liked the build quality of them.
My question is, since the Xperia Z1 isn't on Tmobile as of now, should I get the Z and just wait for the Z2 to come out or should I hold out for the likely release of the Z1 on Tmobile? There have been quite a few leaked press shots and other reasons to believe the Z1 is coming to Tmobile US but who knows how long it could be based on the Xperia Z being 5 months late after global release.
I want to switch ASAP from ATT but I don't want to buy the Z and regret it when the Z1 comes out. Is the Z1 that big of an upgrade for anyone who owned the xperia Z? I am coming from iPhone and battery and smoothness are important and those two things seem to be what the Z1 improved on with the Snapdragon 800 and larger battery.
Thanks.
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If you still like the iphone size factor, wait just a bit longer for z1 mini
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If you still like the iphone size factor, wait just a bit longer for z1 mini
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I actually like the larger screen on the Z that I played with in the store. I just don't know what to do in the mean time especially if they take their time with the Z1 launch to sell of the old ones stock. I need to switch soon to avoid another big ATT bill if I can.
Coming from the Z, I would say that the Z1 is definitely an upgrade. A huge one at that. However if weight's your thing you have to note that the Z1 is 170g which isn't that light compared to the Z. The difference in weight is notable when you hold them...(and your IPhone is lighter so you'll want to take that into consideration)
In terms of smoothness, Z1 never lags. S800 chipset is great, definitely better than the S4 Pro. You won't feel the difference through regular use...
Battery wise Stamina mode will help extend battery life so don't worry about it. But as a power user I can tell you for sure that the bigger battery didn't lead to bigger battery life. Still, I can definitely get through a full day on 1 charge with enough juice to spare...
Hope I helped.
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Z1 never lags.
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So why mine lags with Next Launcher? I paid for that 16 usd backs, look awesome but when I unlock the phone from lock screen lags all the time. It is the Launcher or the phone?
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So why mine lags with Next Launcher? I paid for that 16 usd backs, look awesome but when I unlock the phone from lock screen lags all the time. It is the Launcher or the phone?
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Try another launcher and see if it is the phone or launcher.
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So why mine lags with Next Launcher? I paid for that 16 usd backs, look awesome but when I unlock the phone from lock screen lags all the time. It is the Launcher or the phone?
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A powerful processor doesn't compensate for a poorly coded app(or not optimized for X device)
Even the super "smooth" iphone 5S can lag with the right app
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Yes, I have also upgraded from Z to Z1, no comparison in terms or performance. Love not having to open a flap to insert my headphones!!! I find the Z1 better to hold in the hand, the Z to me was a little to square and I always felt like the Z was going to fall out of my hand. Love the magnetic charge port. If it was me right now in your position I would not be buying the Z
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Sonynoob said:
S800 chipset is great, definitely better than the S4 Pro. You won't feel the difference through regular use...
Really, I notice a huge difference on a daily basis with mine, I have an email app that marking all my mail messages as read used to take about 5-10 seconds, now well less than 1. No skipping of playing mp3's, draging things to your desktop now pretty much instant, vs a couple of seconds, launching apps way quicker, No lags.
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A powerful processor doesn't compensate for a poorly coded app(or not optimized for X device)
Even the super "smooth" iphone 5S can lag with the right app
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Yep with you on that, I would be hounding them to sort it for me if I spent that much money on an app
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Thanks everyone, I decided to pull the trigger on a cheap Z I found to use until the Z1 shows up on tmobile. I plan to sell the Z I got for close to what I paid and buy the Z1 on Tmobiles payment plans. This way I can make sure I like sony phones without too much commitment.
negrobembon said:
A powerful processor doesn't compensate for a poorly coded app(or not optimized for X device)
Even the super "smooth" iphone 5S can lag with the right app
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Good to know, I was worry about the phone. AND goot to know they selling crap. Even on my HTC that app was the same.
I did a video a while back about the reasons why you may consider choosing the Z1 over Z. Here it is:
Hi all!
I want to buy XZ in a few days, but I heard some bad stuff about it.
1. Battery life is very poor as I heard
2. Screens can just break in a half without a reason
3. Does that hot back trouble a lot?
Anyone can share his/her thoughts? I will really apreciate that.
Hi
these issues sound like pre release or first batch issues like most phones at release these are common issues . the phone's battery life is more then acceptable for 1 and half days use for lite to moderate use , with a suitable cover the phone is more then sturdy . the phone will only get hot after a long internet session or after playing graphic intensive games otherwise its mostly ship shape throughout the day . the xperia z wont disappoint the build quality is stil better then the samsung galaxy s4 which is a plastic phone .
have you considered the xperia z1 it has a newer xperia launcher and camera app software wise ?
keith456 said:
Hi
these issues sound like pre release or first batch issues like most phones at release these are common issues . the phone's battery life is more then acceptable for 1 and half days use for lite to moderate use , with a suitable cover the phone is more then sturdy . the phone will only get hot after a long internet session or after playing graphic intensive games otherwise its mostly ship shape throughout the day . the xperia z wont disappoint the build quality is stil better then the samsung galaxy s4 which is a plastic phone .
have you considered the xperia z1 it has a newer xperia launcher and camera app software wise ?
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Z1 is too expensive for me now unfortunately. I want to know some opinions, because I will be using it for about 2 years so i don't want to be dissapointed.
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Z1 is too expensive for me now unfortunately. I want to know some opinions, because I will be using it for about 2 years so i don't want to be dissapointed.
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i see , you wont be disappointed i assure you its a good phone
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Z1 is too expensive for me now unfortunately. I want to know some opinions, because I will be using it for about 2 years so i don't want to be dissapointed.
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Heck, I'm much in a position just like you a few days back, grab mine already, it is a good phone,well that depending on what you previously had
Nevertheless, I have been with Sony phone all these days and 3 of my previous phone easily reach 2 years after a really rough usage, And I'm sure this one will last just like others.And, FYI, my X10 and Arc still rocking, just not as fast as this new one.
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Heck, I'm much in a position just like you a few days back, grab mine already, it is a good phone,well that depending on what you previously had
Nevertheless, I have been with Sony phone all these days and 3 of my previous phone easily reach 2 years after a really rough usage, And I'm sure this one will last just like others.And, FYI, my X10 and Arc still rocking, just not as fast as this new one.
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I am now using Xperia Neo, and I always have Sony Phones so XZ will be a good choice I think. But other opinions will be appreciated too
ChristO1624 said:
I am now using Xperia Neo, and I always have Sony Phones so XZ will be a good choice I think. But other opinions will be appreciated too
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Bro before i had a Xperia Neo too.
It's a good upgrade, especially the waterproofness is nice.
Also, the screen is miles better than the Xperia Neo screen and not as bad as most peeps say.
The phone gets hot true but only uf you do intense gaming, and it's not a big problem for me.
Also the sound quality is awesome and you get a good headset with your Z.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
Bro before i had a Xperia Neo too.
It's a good upgrade, especially the waterproofness is nice.
Also, the screen is miles better than the Xperia Neo screen and not as bad as most peeps say.
The phone gets hot true but only uf you do intense gaming, and it's not a big problem for me.
Also the sound quality is awesome and you get a good headset with your Z.
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great to see that opinion, it's very helpful I also thought about Xperia T, because my girlfriend has it, and I think I will choose between those two
Battery life lasts long enough to use during the day, before recharging when you get home. I have a thin bumper cover on mine and dropped it on a few occasions and no problems or damage. I even accidentally dropped it in the toilet, and was thankful for the water resistance My Z has become quite hot when flashing ROMs etc. but no back plate lifting so far. It's a great device IMO:thumbup:
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even if I don't let me phone's battery die , after a day of use , i get like 40-50% left , and at night i plug it . About build quality , i had s4 , s2 , note 2 , htc , but believe this phone is far more superior at build quality , even so I doesn''t surpass the HTC One(even if i hear it is kind of fragile). About broken screens , don't know , I own a XZ for 3 months now but haven't droped it once.
ChristO1624 said:
great to see that opinion, it's very helpful I also thought about Xperia T, because my girlfriend has it, and I think I will choose between those two
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Will T get kit kat? If not, my advice is, go for Z, guaranteed kit kat
Any other opinions? I'd rather buy it but I want to make the best choice
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Any other opinions? I'd rather buy it but I want to make the best choice
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Coming from a HTC one (Stolen ) Only thing I miss is the more petite frame, speakers, and the ease of unlocking bootloader , camera is better (even front camera), battery life is better , waterproof, sexier than the htc (speakers made it ugly ) expandable storage, the screen sometimes I like sometimes I miss the HTC's blacks, colours seem more realistic tho with the xperia. Was going to get the Z1 but for £180 I couldnt say no to the Z.
That said I used it for a week before buying my own one (cousins ) and I fell in love with it, if I had known I would have got this from the start
Still havent unlocked bootloader keep getting weird error :\ and not sure I want too with because you loose bravia engine :|, I think there may be a clash with my fastboot drivers from the HTC? Anyway, get the Xperia you wont regret it
I will go for my XZ next weekend I think, I will post when I'll buy thanks for every opinion guyz!
Have you looked into nexus 5?
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Have you looked into nexus 5?
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N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark,
Display and etc.. are mostly equal or not as good as our Z.
And it's more expensive than Z.
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark,
Display and etc.. are mostly equal or not as good as our Z.
And it's more expensive than Z.
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The killer feature for me that I can hardly get on other smartphone brand ...... WATERPROOF....
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Have you looked into nexus 5?
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Of course I looked, but it's not available in my country yet N5 is great. but not for me now,. I must go for XZ
Tommy-Geenexus said:
N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark
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Sold!
Lol I'm just joking, but remember the nexus series always starts out eh, then the developers really make a beast out the phone like the n4.
Just giving op another suggestion.
You'll have fun with this beauty though op.
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Teo032 said:
Sold!
Lol I'm just joking, but remember the nexus series always starts out eh, then the developers really make a beast out the phone like the n4.
Just giving op another suggestion.
You'll have fun with this beauty though op.
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Guys! Can u also please suggest me a good case or a bumper for my XZ?
bloodsuckingcomputer said:
The killer feature for me that I can hardly get on other smartphone brand ...... WATERPROOF....
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Tommy-Geenexus said:
N5 is not so good exept the pure super speed and 32k quadrant benchmark,
Display and etc.. are mostly equal or not as good as our Z.
And it's more expensive than Z.
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So we've all seen the leaked images of the Sony D6503 Sirius . Is this device going to be the next Xperia Z, in other words the 1st half of the year flagship device ? Only then to be replaced by a replacement of the Xperia Z1 in the 2nd half of the year ?
I've come to the conclusion that the 2nd half of the year models are generally better, they have refined all the mistakes in the earlier model. For example they made the Z waterproof but we were stuck with flaps for the headphone jack, no camera button and an early dock connector. They corrected all these things in the Z1. If I remember correctly they did the same thing with the Xperia S and T. The 1st half of the year flagship take a big jump in design and features but can be a little rough around the edges , the 2nd half devices are more finished in my opinion.
I've have the Xperia S and now the Z. I'm wanting to jump onto the 2nd half of the year devices (Not buy 2 handsets in one year). Thats why i'm curious is the new Sirius early flagship or the late one ?
Does anyone else agree with my thoughts on this ?
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well according to the rumors, it looks like a marginal upgrade from z1 but it still sports the same soc and camera and very similar hardware design. personally i do not see a reason to uograde
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So we've all seen the leaked images of the Sony D6503 Sirius . Is this device going to be the next Xperia Z, in other words the 1st half of the year flagship device ? Only then to be replaced by a replacement of the Xperia Z1 in the 2nd half of the year ?
I've come to the conclusion that the 2nd half of the year models are generally better, they have refined all the mistakes in the earlier model. For example they made the Z waterproof but we were stuck with flaps for the headphone jack, no camera button and an early dock connector. They corrected all these things in the Z1. If I remember correctly they did the same thing with the Xperia S and T. The 1st half of the year flagship take a big jump in design and features but can be a little rough around the edges , the 2nd half devices are more finished in my opinion.
I've have the Xperia S and now the Z. I'm wanting to jump onto the 2nd half of the year devices (Not buy 2 handsets in one year). Thats why i'm curious is the new Sirius early flagship or the late one ?
Does anyone else agree with my thoughts on this ?
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I'm more curious to know, if all the new apps will be available to the old Xperia Z Series. I had Smart Backlight and Motion Control on my old Galaxy SII.....
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I'm more curious to know, if all the new apps will be available to the old Xperia Z Series. I had Smart Backlight and Motion Control on my old Galaxy SII.....
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What usually happens is, in this case, everything before the Z will be left behind in the next major update. But.. this could change anytime of course with KitKat being a lighter OS version than previous allowing for weaker handsets to still perform with new updates.
Yes. I want all the new apps on my Z now, i'm sick of installing ports from newer devices to my current device that isn't even 12 months old !
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well according to the rumors, it looks like a marginal upgrade from z1 but it still sports the same soc and camera and very similar hardware design. personally i do not see a reason to uograde
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Would you be upgrading from the Z or Z1 ?
from the z i will not upgrade until i see a 32gb variant with smaller bezels but that is just me
What good is having up to date hardware when it's not even optimized software-wise?
#cameraofz1 #justpracticingmyhashtaggingskills
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No. Sirius is just a Z1 refresh. The true next flagship will come later...
the true next flagship phone will crack next gen boundaries
software and hardware and it will come in at a affordable price
Yeah... I don't really want to upgrade to the Z1 because the bezel is bigger. They need to keep it the same size as the Z in future phones.
For me, Z still rules... Z1 is too big!
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alexpraga said:
For me, Z still rules... Z1 is too big!
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Yeah, when I got the Z I said it was big enough. But my Z is not wearing the best, the paint has worn off on the corners. An aluminium bezel would resist this better I think.
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Felimenta97 said:
No. Sirius is just a Z1 refresh. The true next flagship will come later...
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But would you call it the 1st half of the year flagship device?
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It does not give any ROI buying the phone now because the S800 finishing its life span in terms of the king of the benchmark. I am waiting for snapdragon 805 that is because it graphics benefit and it would be " future proof" because it is 64 bit. I am pretty sure that Qualcomm is going finishing the support for it because successor of the kitkat would be 64 bit so it will be a good excuse to just abandon devices business is business
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It does not give any ROI buying the phone now because the S800 finishing its life span in terms of the king of the benchmark. I am waiting for snapdragon 805 that is because it graphics benefit and it would be " future proof" because it is 64 bit. I am pretty sure that Qualcomm is going finishing the support for it because successor of the kitkat would be 64 bit so it will be a good excuse to just abandon devices business is business
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Erm, S805 isn't 64 bits, and there is no info Android 4.5 or 5.0 or whatever will be 64 bits...
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the Z was the first proper flagship phone from Sony. Waterproof features and all.
It was the first and there were many lessons learnt from it. ie: flaps, display, bezel etc etc
Thus, come the Z1 which address the issues above (earphones without flaps, magnetic cable charging without opening flap, etc)
Hence, I would think the changes to the new phone itself would be marginal. be it Z2 or Z3 etc.
Even in the looks dept, there wouldnt be much difference because Sony is taking the Omnidesign as the core
The difference would be in the hardware spec IMO
But I seriously hope the camera would be improved cos we have the hardware for it.
I'm still hoping there will be Red for the new phone. I would move if there's Red. if not I might think twice about "upgrading" from Z to Z2
adamtan said:
the Z was the first proper flagship phone from Sony. Waterproof features and all.
It was the first and there were many lessons learnt from it. ie: flaps, display, bezel etc etc
Thus, come the Z1 which address the issues above (earphones without flaps, magnetic cable charging without opening flap, etc)
Hence, I would think the changes to the new phone itself would be marginal. be it Z2 or Z3 etc.
Even in the looks dept, there wouldnt be much difference because Sony is taking the Omnidesign as the core
The difference would be in the hardware spec IMO
But I seriously hope the camera would be improved cos we have the hardware for it.
I'm still hoping there will be Red for the new phone. I would move if there's Red. if not I might think twice about "upgrading" from Z to Z2
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Its the Z3 i'm waiting for so!
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Erm, S805 isn't 64 bits, and there is no info Android 4.5 or 5.0 or whatever will be 64 bits...
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Ok my bad:silly:, adreno improvement are interesting
Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
Ive had mine for a year now and do not intend to replace it any time soon. It runs all the current apps and games!
If your budget is tight, then get a Moto G, or OnePlus One or Nexus 5. Plenty of well specced devices around.
xperia u20i said:
Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
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I bought mine 1 year and a half ago, and I can't be happier.
It's an excellent phone, great processor, ram, camera, water proof, design, development ( I had Lollipop from 1st day like a Nexus ), fullhd, 5"...
No need to spend 500€ to get a "rocket" smartphone.
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Thanks guys for the reply, for now is tight.
I would like to hear more opinions of owners.
What about screen on time? Now when is for example more then one year old? I don't play heavy games, mostly surfing, taking pictures, little facebook, and a lot texting and calling. And flashing roms of course
For me everything over 3 hours is good.
U can get maximum of 4.5 hours if u r not a gamer ( my experience with games 4 hour screen on time).. May b u will get around 5 hours screen on time if u play with some tweaks..
I bought my XZ this last year in November and I couldn't be happier. Ok, screen on time is not the best out there but, at least for me, it's enough. SOT performance goes between 3-4,5 h, which IMHO I think isn't bad. You could also underclock/undervolt it in case you want to expand its autonomy a bit else.
It depends on the price you are getting at, I would say go for z1 if the price difference is minimal. I've used both, choose the one in your budget
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
G1_enthusiast said:
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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So you came here from the HTC forum, proud of that you succeeded in unlocking the achievement? I find this behaviour a tiny bit bizarre, wondering what are you trying to prove? I mean, if you worship HTC, please remain in your little temple there. There's plenty of terrorist everywhere and nobody needs another one to come, terrorise Xperia or potential Xperia users.
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If you like Sony, just get another Xperia. They're not going out of business anytime soon as if anyone bothered to read, they're exploring (highly unlikely though) to start a jv or selling the business to another company. Of course if that happens, which have a remote chance, you're probably still be receiving smartphone support in the new business arrangement.
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jayp57 said:
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
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- Back glass just fine, over 1.5 years old
- Name one device that doesn't throttle (and doesn't stutter while throttled)
- Wifi and Bluetooth fine as long as you don't use a smartband
- Battery life is average, not really bad but nothing special either, standy is great with the right kernel
Thats my Xperience, no major problems so far.
But really better deals for the money out there.
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
the amount of money you are going to spent just get One Plus One or if you are on budget cost wait till you got abit more money to get a better device
Well, it's a wonderful phone, the main issue with it is the battery
As others said if your gaming is at minimum (1 hour Max a day) you can actually get it to work 8 hours, even more if no gaming and used the stamina mode
Other than that, it's easy to root at all times and relatively easy to flash and customize.
And it will be officially update to lollipop.
I say if z1 is in your range get it only for the battery issue.. If not the XZ is great
Z is a great device.. But u can also buy 1+1 since it has Z2 specs and a better front cam.. It lacks Water resistance like XZ though and the multimedia features won't be like a SONY.. So choose ur needs first and then select the one suitable.. Although i haven't experienced any of the issues which are mentioned in the thread yet.. I hope i won't too.. But still my XZ can beat the s**t outta One M7 & all their desire phones, any iPhone, any S**tsung.. If you are a rough handler of the phone, i suggest u to buy XZ coz its built better and 1+1 seems kinda delicate compared to Sony..
G1_enthusiast said:
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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Weren't you the one telling me I don't know what I'm talking about because of spelling mistakes?
G1_enthusiast has quoted you on xda-developers!
I'll believe you once you learn how to spell and put in some correct punctuation.
lol what company hire this moron? he cant even finished a sentence correctly.
I most probably will take XZ if i get good offer. But also maybe wait for month or two to see what will came out.
I also considering to buy SGS4 but i prefer Sony over Samsung. Only reason to take S4 will be the battery life. But like i said before i can live with 3+ hours of sot. Currently i'm using LG O4X which have vary bad sot. 2:30 is max that i can get. And all kind of problems with RIL, it's really "demanding" device, thanks to developers i still using him, but i think not for long.
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Azurren said:
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
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Can you spell out some of those mid-range phones that are better than the XZ? my GF wants a new phone, and i cant seem to find a device thats as thin as the Z, has a fullHD 5" screen and 2gigs RAM and a 5.0 update for similar money...
this really isnt a sarcastic question. I just want to know what are those mid-range devices with these specs, so i can buy her a better phone and save some cash?
btw with heavy usage my Z never died on me until i came home(which means the whole day). im sorry if you use battery hogging apps that dont let your device sleep when you turn off the screen...
@Tommy-Geenexus
Do you really suggest that old spec phone to buy someone, with known not solved software problems on top of serious casing and thermal design flaws?
There are better options on the market. For that money you can have a LG G2 or a Galaxy S4 or a Honor 6 or One+ One.