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Sometimes people call me and get a message saying my phone is off or out of service. But when I look at it, it often shows 4 bars of service..
When I call someone, the problem disappears temporarily, and I start receiving calls again (and I receive all the SMS's I was supposed to get at once), only to appear again later for no reason (a soft reset also solves it). It's not related to location, it also happens when I spend the day at home (where I get a strong signal).
I don't think it's a operator problem either, since my operator is known for it's good services, and other people who use "normal" phones never had such a problem.
I tried 3 different ROMs (dutty's hybrid, Hyperdragon and AthineOS) and 3 different radios (dutty's radio (1.65 something), hyperdragon's (1.70 something), and eMo radio). Right now I'm using AthineOS with hyperdragon III's radio, and almost no programs installed..
This problem happens both in 3G and EDGE mode.
Anything I can do about it?
Send it in for repair?
Seems you tried all you could...
Don't think I can send it for repair, since it's an AT&T Tilt and I'm not even in the US..
Guess I'm outta luck then
Anyone else have any ideas?
have you tried the sim in another handset, sounds like a network problem to me.
3G Network
Are you using 3G Network?
Sometime I use 3G band and even It show good signal I loose phone calls.
I changed to GSM and no phone calls loose.
This happens in São Paulo/Brazil but...
EDIT: Sorry. Now I saw that you reported this problem also using GSM band.
Thanks.
I am not sure if you're using your US SIM card in a foreign country?
Maybe you just forgot to enable INTERNATIONAL ROAMING before you left ... ?
I'm having the same problem
I seem to have started with the same problem about a week ago. A couple people complained that they called me but it rang twice and went to voicemail - My phone never rang. However, after I made a call (or apparently did something to "wakeup" the phone), I would get the voicemail notification (2 hours later).
I tried reseating the SIM card, but then it went to "SIM Card Missing". I did a hard reset, but that didn't help. I took it back to AT&T and they replaced the SIM Card. That seemed to work again, and certainly would have been a convenient fix (bad SIM card - too easy). So I've just spent all weekend reloading all the apps, but now it's happening again!!
The symptoms are; After I reboot the device, I can receive one or two calls, then it doesn't ring anymore (the caller hears 2 rings then it goes to voicemail). If I cycle the Phone radio button in the Comm Manager, or cycle power, it comes back to life for 1 call, then craps out again.
I'm just using the standard AT&T ROM (without the Bloatware after this past reset) and the standard/default radio version 1.27.12.11
The only thing that I have noticed that seems different lately is that the "Comm Manager" task is always running when I look at the running programs (which I don't think it used to) I had also recently installed Garmin XT.
The device is of course 1 yr + 2 weeks (so I assume just out of warranty)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Hmmm,
what I would try, is, to just make a hard reset, load only my contacts to the phone and run it for a while to monitor its "Incalling" behavior. If everything seems to be fine, I would go ahead and start installing an application, then monitor my device again for a while, if everything is fine I will go ahead install the next application ... and so on. That is just to make sure that no 3rd party application causes this problems.
BTW:
I don't think that GARMIN causes this problem. I used to run Garmin on my HTC too (v5.0) until I came accross SYGIC McGuider (which works much better and card scrolling is much smoother than Garmin).
Well,
to come back to the point: if you get the same problems without loading any 3rd party application on your device, then I would recommend trying another ROM (best advice: go with the HTC stock ROM). If it also happens with the other ROM then it might be hardware related and difficult to fix.
Thanks - I knew that's what I should do, I just didn't want to do it after having spent all weekend reloading and configuring it. I thought I had read somewhere about Garmin having to have the phone radio on to work, so I was hoping there was a setting somewhere that I was missing that was powering the radio down. But..... I suppose it's time to go back to common sense and just do the reset
So far it seems to be working now. I'll give it a few days with just the basics and then start reloading one at a time.
Thanks for the quick response!
Spoke too soon
looks like I spoke too soon, it's doing it again - seems like it was fine for about 3 hours, but now .....
guess it's time to try my luck with AT&T - time to see how good their customer service is
bbaydiver said:
looks like I spoke too soon, it's doing it again - seems like it was fine for about 3 hours, but now .....
guess it's time to try my luck with AT&T - time to see how good their customer service is
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Well, I'm experiencig totally same stuff here. I don't know whats really going on. I've NEVER before had such or even simialr problem.
Ive installed stock HTC ROM. And its going again.
One question. Are you using Opera Mini maybe?
kristoff_sz said:
Well, I'm experiencig totally same stuff here. I don't know whats really going on. I've NEVER before had such or even simialr problem.
Ive installed stock HTC ROM. And its going again.
One question. Are you using Opera Mini maybe?
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no, I was just using the default browser.
I've got nothing installed on it at this point so I'm guessing it's hardware related.
Over the last couple months I had been experiencing some strange battery drainage (not related to the GPS issues). I don't know if that was a symptom or not. It just seems like the radio is going to sleep somehow - it wakes up for a little while if I sync my email, cycle the radio via comm manager, or cycle the power.
Anyone know if there is a setting somewhere that controls that? (sure would be nice if it were that simple)
The AT&T store was basically useless, all they did was give me the phone number for the warranty department (but since I'm 2 weeks past warranty, he doesn't think they'll help me), and of course offer to upgrade me to the Fuze for $375 - no thanks!
I've had the same issue (I think). I too think that it seems to happen when I have a 3G data connection active and moving back to GPRS (non 3G) seems to make it better....
I'm on a standard UK ROM and using BTMobile as a provider.
I was driving down the motorway the other day and overtook a friend. He rang me and went straight to voicemail. I then got a text to say that I had a voicemail and rang him back.
I was running TomTom Traffic at the time so would have had a data session enabled....
I think its something to do with the data session sometimes not letting a call through but can't put my finger on anything and certainly can't find an option to change any settings...
Also, even at home, I'm constantly picking up my phone to see that it "has no signal" and the exclamation mark is displayed - so calls aren't coming through - but it then connects and shows a three-bar strength signal. Don't understand why it keeps dropping out, but I get a 3G connection at the front of my house and an ordinary G connection at the back and I think that it sometimes to stay connected to the 3G connection for data even when the phone signal is very poor and it would be better dropping that and connecting at "old" GPRS speed...
Same on the train on the west coast main line out of London. I think having the 3G turned on causes the phone signal to drop out completely more than when 3G is turned off, as the phone tries to hang on to the signal of a 3G cell and doesn't successfully switch over to the next "non 3G" cell whilst in a call.
have you tried a new radio such as NIKI's?
well, AT&T warranty was even less than useless. Home phone, Internet, and Wireless all through AT&T and the best they can do is "see if they could get me a deal on a new phone" or refer me to HTC technical support. Nice customer service AT&T!!!
HTC technical support was actually trying to be helpful, once she found out I already did a hard reset, she referred me to their warranty group. They looked up the S/N and it's still under their warranty (I guess theirs is 15 months after manufacture date). Now the only problem is I have to send it in to them to see if it's covered under warranty, and of course be willing to go without my phone for 2 weeks (and pay them a yet to be determined amount if they decide it's not under warranty).
I'd like to try a different radio, but looks like there's too much for me to read up on - I need to get the device fixed, I've already lost too much time with it being messed up and me screwing with it.
Update
so this morning I was ready to throw in the towel and send the device back to HTC. At least they were willing to help me out, unlike AT&T.
I get to work, and of course the phone seems to be working (which isn't unusual, it works for a little while then craps out). Come lunch time, it's still working (now this is unusual, it must be a fluke, I'll give a couple more hours before I package it up). 4:00 and it's still working! Now I'm starting to wonder if it's got to do with the cell towers near my house (and the AT&T store since it did it for them too).
I email my buddy who lives about 1/2 mile away and also has a Tilt just to see if he's had any similar problems. He calls me back laughing. There's 5 People in his office with the exact same problem (and not all Tilts either).
So to make a short story long....... it appears to be a problem with AT&T, NOT the device (but Thank You very much AT&T for the incredible customer care you demonstrated and for trying to screw me into buying new devices for outrageous prices)
So at this point, I'm not sure if it's that AT&T has fixed the issue across the board, or if it was the "Resync the routing" that the online chat person tried last night that finally propagated across the network (I assume so that AT&T can find my phone in order to route the calls to me).
I guess we'll see if it does the same thing when I get back closer to home tonight, but I'm relieved that it appears to be fixed.
Thanks everyone for the suggestions! Now I have a little more time to read about how I can screw up my phone on my own schedule - all the practice of resetting it and reinstalling everything, and seeing how much faster it is has inspired me
Hi bbaydiver
Did Att fix your problem? I had same issue with my tilt 8925. I tried all the orginal Att rom "same problem". After couple minute, I can't receive and make call. thanks
kwong1998 said:
Hi bbaydiver
Did Att fix your problem? I had same issue with my tilt 8925. I tried all the orginal Att rom "same problem". After couple minute, I can't receive and make call. thanks
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Have you tied asking AT$T for a new sim card ? They do wear out you know.
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Have you tied asking AT$T for a new sim card ? They do wear out you know.
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I didn't tried asking AT&T for a new sim card. but I will call them to change the sim card. Does anybody know how to disable the 3G function?
Just a "me too..."
Hello everyone. I just wanted to report that I'm having the same issues...they started about a week or so ago.
I've had my AT&T Tilt for about 8 months now (it's a warranty replacement for my first tilt, bought in July...so of course, I'm out of warranty). I recently had problems receiving calls, and then I started being unable to make calls, even though my phone shows a decent signal...anywhere from 4 bars to 2 bars. When dialing, it'll say "Dialing..." for a few seconds...and then it clicks off. A soft reset will fix things temporarily, but that's it.
I'm running the stock AT&T ROM (I'll check the version number if someone thinks it'll help), and I've tried doing a hard reset AND replacing the SIM card. Same effect.
Someone please let me know if they resolved this problem. AT&T offered me an HTC Fuze...but I'm extremely wary of other phones by this manufacturer. I'm very, VERY tired of phones crapping out on me after having just spend a couple of hundred bucks on them. At this point, I'm just looking for something reliable. If someone else here has had problems with the Fuze, please let me know...not to start any fights around here, but I'm actually thinking about going with the iPhone.
Thanks.
a quick history of what I've done so far
Sumsung I897 captivate from ATT unlock and being used on Telus network was working great for about 4 days, then all kinds of problem started cropping up.
Phone came unlocked, I rooted using update.zip from xda, installed rom manager and started removing ATT bloatware, entered SMS and APN info which worked fine.
Yesterday I noticed that where I once got good reception I was now getting nothing and would have to drive down the street before I would get something descent. I thought maybe I'd put it back to stock with rom manager and see if that would help which it did not. It actually made it worse, decided to go all out and use the Odin3 one click downloader just to make sure I was back to stock firmware. This didn't work either but now I can enter the SMS and change the preferred network type but it doesn't save. Preferred network type is grayed out and even though I can change it it never save same as SMS.
Now I can't hold connecting in my living room where my wifes Milestone gets full bars. I tried taking the phone to where I had the best signal and change the preferred network, SMS, and set the network operator but it doesn't save any info, can't find on operator half the time on manual or auto and gave me an error and logged it to #*9900#
I've been at this for 2 days straight and can't figure out how to get it right back to stock, it seems to keep hanging onto the same preferred network and not saving anything I enter.
What can I do to get back to stock, and it has to be something that wipes everything clean, clean, clean, because even the GSM disconnects stay logged under *#*#4636#*#*
***I desperately even tried pulling the batt and SIM card for the night in hopes that would do something.
So, if I'm understand what happened correctly, you bought an unlocked Captivate, rooted it, deleted some bloatware, entered your Telus APN info and everything worked awesome for about four days. Now everything has gone down the hole. Is that right?
If that is the case, then we need to figure out what changed. Using Odin3 would have definitely put you back to stock/unrooted your phone, I don't think you could go back any further than that. If I were you, I would act like I first got the phone. As in, I would do everything you did to it, as if was day one. At one point, everything worked fine. Try to recreate that. You can always look into exchanging it or perhaps Samsung customer support can give you a little more insight to what's going on. Here's the number if you want to try them out.
Samsung customer service - 1.800.726.7864
Thanks, I've gone through the process a few times today from start to finish trying to figure it out ... maybe some of the problems aren't real problems and just limitations that I didn't know where their. I've since flash with odin3+re-partion to the bone stock i897UCJF6 as in not the one click method. It loaded fine but still have the same issue, I can't set preferred network type or get it to keep the number entered into SMSC. I think if I can get passed that I'll be be one the up side of winning. I keep noticing that the log of GSM disconnects never clears or the usage statistics under *#*#4636#*# , I'm thinking its in the same area that other bad data is being held onto instead of being cleared when flash firmware or factory reset.
Is anyone able to change preferred network type? maybe I was never able to change it but I think I should be able too.
I may be wrong in assuming this but I don't think ATT is going to be interested helping me connect one of their handset that I'm trying to use on foreign network, but I could be wrong and is an open option.
*#*#197328640#*#*
debug screen
phone control
network control
band selection
wcdma band
wcdma all
menu->end
used this to lock my phone to WCDMA only so that problem is solved
*** never mind posted to soon it still didn't stick after rebooting
be carefull using the service menu as I have no idea what most of this stuff does
I got the SMS service number issue fix by taking out my sim, swapping in another known working sim from the same network, setting the service number, pressing update and then swapping back. Before every time I tried to update the service number it spit out an "update error" can anybody tell where the SMS config data is stored? on the phone or sim.
The only problem I'm having now is with reception which maybe fixable if I can set the preferred network to WCDMA only. But the button for that option is a light blue colour vs other phones that I can change this setting on. Does the blue mean anything like a locked function or something that set by the firmware as unchangeable?
As some of you may have read, my phone is somewhat hosed.
I have a new one on the way (which might be a refurb). But I have nothing to lose playing with this one.
I highly suspect, one or more of the bands are disabled.
If you google around you see lots of folks fiddling around with Band Priorities and/or Enabling. Especially with "TirBand" phones (which this is). (Nexus 5 and HTC One, HTC One Max).
Most of the time people access this through EPST using ##4636# but my phone does not respond to this.
But the Galaxy S5 and HTC One (M8). Are in new Territory with Spark and even more bands I believe. So their might be new Menus for these phones and that info has not been leaked out yet.
Currently if I'm in a formally strong 4G area I get great 3G (no 4G at all). Yes 4G is enabled.
If I'm in Moderate to Weak 3G area. I get 1x or nothing. It really feels like a Band got shut off.
I'm not sure what caused it.
I was running Corporate PRL (56018). That seemed to not be causing any harm. Ran it for a few weeks.
Ran Barebones 1.0 (on stock firmware) and that ran fine too. After that it was down hill.
My only issue was Roaming Guard was on and Locked out. Which others have reported is a long standing issue (was a problem on M7 too).
All I needed to do was do a Full Wipe and enable it before it gets locked again. Not everyone has this locking issue, but MANY do.
I updated to OTA firmware. Not sure of status here because I had WIFI on normally.
Then I decided to run BadBoys Harman. Without firmware. Again not sure of status here as WIFI was on.
Somewhere I believe I did an Update Profile. I suspect at that point I was hosed.
It was when I put BadBoys on that I noticed an issue because he shows when you are on 1x.
Not sure if I started to see 1x that was before or after update profile.
I don't know if it's combination of having been on the corporate PRL when I did the update Profile or what.
I always try to do update Profile over mobile network.
I was not clear what the problem exactly was until I "Fully" upgraded (Harman with Harman firmware).
Just to be clear, I'm not blaming anyone but me. And there may be nothing wrong with anything out there than more or my phone. I just don't know.
I highly suspect it's something trivial that got turned off or the phone so happened to lose a band or antenna.
But I suspect it's some combination of SuperCID, Corporate PRL, new OTA Firmware or Harman Firmware along with Update Profile hosed me.
I do have new phone on the way. But I sure would like to know what happened.
I didn't do anything "out of bounds" from this forum. I simply may have done things in a different order or something.
I am S-OFF and running TWRP 2.7.0.2
I have reactivated, wiped the gazoo out of it. Ran Harmon RUU. etc.
I sure wish there was an RUU for the Shipped Config. Or even for the OTA version.
Seems a coincidence the phone "Broke" just when I started Flashing Firmware and Updating Profile.
I know I was good on Stock Rooted, S-OFF, Corporate PRL. Because I'd even see 4G at my house occasionally which is a reach. Now I'm lucky to get 1x at my house.
I will tell you this, I'm staying on Stock Firmware and Stock PRL when the new phone arrives until more is learned.
I will try to compare phones as best I can.
Which is another reason I sure would like to see the Band configuration on this phone so I can compare it to the new phone.
Thanks for any tips.
I think you were trying to do *#*#4636#*#* to access the Menu. The EPST command would be ##3282#.
I'd be interested in your comparison. I think I may have a hosed phone as well. I have it on cdma only and I'm constantly losing data, dropping calls, and missing calls in places I didn't before. The only roms I have flashed are Captain's 1.54.651.8, and my BareBones rom.
Captain_Throwback said:
I think you were trying to do *#*#4636#*#* to access the Menu. The EPST command would be ##3282#.
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Thanks when I saw people posting *#*#4636#*#* I stupidly assumed they were trying to get past some HTML issue with ##. *#*#4636#*#* works !!
Turns out when you use the Google Play app called "Advanced Signal Status" when you click "Advanced" it brings up the same Menu as *#*#4636#*#*.
I didn't realize it was bringing up something built into the phone.
Any way,
It looks like on HTC Max it was *#*#3282#*#* which does not exist on HTC One (M8). You have to use ##3282# but that does not offer the same Band settings that HTC Max has with *#*#3282#*#*.
Just a quick reminder that Questions go in the Q&A section.
metalfan78 said:
I'd be interested in your comparison. I think I may have a hosed phone as well. I have it on cdma only and I'm constantly losing data, dropping calls, and missing calls in places I didn't before. The only roms I have flashed are Captain's 1.54.651.8, and my BareBones rom.
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When and how often have you:
Updated Profile?
Changed Firmware?
Changed from factory PRL?
I think my problems may have started after I flashed Captains Firmware for OTA (which I got the link from you ROM thread).
I'm not saying it was, but it was around that time. It may have been something to do with PRL's but those are usually harmless and very revertible.
I'm 99% sure I was ok on your ROM with Stock Firmware. Except for Roaming Guard on and locked out. Not sure if that is an early symptom of problems though.
Some things in firmware (on past phones) are not revertible (ever !!!)
Your symptoms sound a lot like mine. I only get good 3G in locations where I used to get good 4G. And I get no 4G at all now.
My phone generally works but many calls go to voice mail or get dropped. Or end up being one way (one of us can't hear the other).
I think it's one of these:
Band issue (disabled or low priority)
Some sort of ID issue that got lost (like a lost security Key)
Some of Power Saver issue (i.e. Extreme Power Save kicking in when it shouldn't)
The reason I mention power is it does this.
WIFI On
Running "Advanced Signal Status"
All looks ok.
Shut off WIFI and things go nuts.
EVDO (data) RSSI Signal: drops to -120db (0%)
Then network type switches to 1xRTT from eHRPD.
It's like the extreme power saver is on. Which, guess what, OTA firmware was supposed to enable !!!
I have tried disabling it in settings. But I think something is haywire.
This is what extreme power save does. And came with the OTA update.
QUOTE: Basically it shuts down all connections but still allows phone calls and texts to come through. You can manually refresh e-mail if you want — but only in HTC's e-mail app. Your smartphone essentially is turned into a dumb phone. And to make sure you don't cheat and try to actually make it do things, the M8 gets a new home EXTREME home screen, with shortcuts to the Phone, Messages, Mail, Calendar and Calculator apps. To exit EXTREME mode, you'll need to hit the dedicated "Exit" button.
HTC says that with only 5 percent battery remaining, you can eke out 15 hours in this EXTREME mode. On a full battery? It'll last something like a dozen days. We'd consider this to be more of an emergency mode than EXTREME, however. END QUOTE
It sure feels like this is what my phone is doing. I think it's stuck on Extreme Power Save mode (in the RADIO only).
I flashed the firmware twice, updated prl many times, never changed prl. Sounds like same symptoms.
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I flashed the firmware twice, updated prl many times, never changed prl. Sounds like same symptoms.
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I highly suspect it's not PRL. When you say "update prl" I assume you mean from settings -> system update menu.
I suspect firmware. Of which there is nothing available to go back to.
Can you get 4G?
I rarely get 4g, it hasn't been fully implemented where I am. I got it on my gs3 only sometimes. And yea, updated prl through settings
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I'm definitely going to a Sprint store. I was just on Sprint chat and they confirmed it is not network related but a defective device. Dammit.
This is what extreme power save.came with the OTA update.
HTC/Sprint removed the band priority section from the menus in the Max so it's either hidden deep OR it's not there and Sprint is controlling what band you actually use on their end which is highly possible....
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HTC/Sprint removed the band priority section from the menus in the Max so it's either hidden deep OR it's not there and Sprint is controlling what band you actually use on their end which is highly possible....
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Ahh, thanks for the info. I think that's what is messed up on my phone some how. Some Key or ID so it knows the appropriate ones to pick.
I've been switching back and forth on firmware and flashing mainly between Viper Rom and Bad Boyz H/K Rom without any issues at all. I had one issue where I couldn't get data or roam, I temporarily fixed by flashing some stock files, but since a clean install all has been well. I've updated profile and prl quite a few times without any issues so far.
I don't get lte at home, but it worked great in Indianapolis over last weekend. Just thought I would share the info.
Also s-off and super cid if that helps any.
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I've been switching back and forth on firmware and flashing mainly between Viper Rom and Bad Boyz H/K Rom without any issues at all. I had one issue where I couldn't get data or roam, I temporarily fixed by flashing some stock files, but since a clean install all has been well. I've updated profile and prl quite a few times without any issues so far.
I don't get lte at home, but it worked great in Indianapolis over last weekend. Just thought I would share the info.
Also s-off and super cid if that helps any.
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That's interesting you lost Data / Roam and managed to got it back. Perhaps if I had put the dialer on like you did at that first problem I would have got it back too.
So you are running H/K firmware as well?
I've made it as close to stock as I could including recovery. Went to 4G area (where I can get 3G). Factory Reset (from boot loader), Redid Activation, Updated Profile/PRL etc. All worked (albeit slowly).
But still no 4G and no 3G when in normally 3G only areas.
Then I tried running H/K RUU back to back twice. Still stuck.
I may try RUU one more time, then try reactivate/profile/prl again in the 4G area.
Is there any need to change hboot? I have left what the H/K RUU put on there sometimes and other times used the one posted here that removes the red unlocked text etc.
The only thing I've messed with on hboot was the mask to remove the tampered text and red text on boot screen.
Yeah I was the one that sent you the message about losing mine until I flashed stock phone apk. But you said it didn't work for you though. But after I did a clean install of the Rom I haven't had any more issues luckily. Hopefully your replacement will work a lot better for you. Maybe just got a bad phone hopefully.
Yes I'm back on H/K firmware again. I went back to old firmware when I flashed viper a few days ago.
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The only thing I've messed with on hboot was the mask to remove the tampered text and red text on boot screen.
Yeah I was the one that sent you the message about losing mine until I flashed stock phone apk. But you said it didn't work for you though. But after I did a clean install of the Rom I haven't had any more issues luckily. Hopefully your replacement will work a lot better for you. Maybe just got a bad phone hopefully.
Yes I'm back on H/K firmware again. I went back to old firmware when I flashed viper a few days ago.
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Maybe I need a round of Viper to fix it
My phone out of nowhere started doing this really fun thing where it drops to roaming at random. From what I can tell, the phone is not making a handoff to the next tower to avoid the roaming. For example, if I'm sitting under a tower with full 4G, everything is fine. If I have 2 bars, it will work in 4G for a while before dropping to 3G roaming. I am able to force it back into 4G by dropping in and out of Airplane mode.
I'm running the official CM11 4/30 nightly (I was on the March Snapshot until this started happening).
First I used some Google-Fu and found it's most likely a bad SIM. I swapped SIMs with my wife, she was stuck in 3G roaming, awesome! Went to Verizon, the switched the SIM, all good, right? Nope, I didn't notice it right away, left the store and thought all was good until I needed to use internet at work.
Next, I thought it was software, so I created a backup, and dirty installed the newest CM11 nightly. No change, so I did a full wipe and install. No luck.
So next I thought maybe the radio was corrupted, so I tried to update the radio, which didn't go so well. I got stuck in a boot loop and had to sideload the old driver and reflash. So I'm back up but still having this problem. I'm thinking my only thing I can do at this point is to go to stock and see if the updated radios make a difference.
I saw another guy is had the same problem, but he had his phone replaced. I'm not sure if that will work for me since I purchased via Swappa (I do have Asurion insurance though).
So what help do I need?
1) Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to fix this?
2) Are there any good instructions out there for how to flash to stock?*
3) Are there any good instructions on how to re-root and flash back to a custom ROM once taking the newest OTA?*
*Most of the instructions I've found have been pretty confusing and use a lot of acronyms without explaining them. I'd be willing to write some cleaner instructions for a sticky if someone would be willing to help me out with any questions I have.
Thanks everyone, I appreciate any help offered.
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My phone out of nowhere started doing this really fun thing where it drops to roaming at random. From what I can tell, the phone is not making a handoff to the next tower to avoid the roaming. For example, if I'm sitting under a tower with full 4G, everything is fine. If I have 2 bars, it will work in 4G for a while before dropping to 3G roaming. I am able to force it back into 4G by dropping in and out of Airplane mode.
I'm running the official CM11 4/30 nightly (I was on the March Snapshot until this started happening).
First I used some Google-Fu and found it's most likely a bad SIM. I swapped SIMs with my wife, she was stuck in 3G roaming, awesome! Went to Verizon, the switched the SIM, all good, right? Nope, I didn't notice it right away, left the store and thought all was good until I needed to use internet at work.
Next, I thought it was software, so I created a backup, and dirty installed the newest CM11 nightly. No change, so I did a full wipe and install. No luck.
So next I thought maybe the radio was corrupted, so I tried to update the radio, which didn't go so well. I got stuck in a boot loop and had to sideload the old driver and reflash. So I'm back up but still having this problem. I'm thinking my only thing I can do at this point is to go to stock and see if the updated radios make a difference.
I saw another guy is had the same problem, but he had his phone replaced. I'm not sure if that will work for me since I purchased via Swappa (I do have Asurion insurance though).
So what help do I need?
1) Does anyone have any ideas on what I can do to fix this?
2) Are there any good instructions out there for how to flash to stock?*
3) Are there any good instructions on how to re-root and flash back to a custom ROM once taking the newest OTA?*
*Most of the instructions I've found have been pretty confusing and use a lot of acronyms without explaining them. I'd be willing to write some cleaner instructions for a sticky if someone would be willing to help me out with any questions I have.
Thanks everyone, I appreciate any help offered.
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Get anywhere? I'm experiencing the same. Roaming all the time. Going to revert back to stock 12b and see what happens.
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Get anywhere? I'm experiencing the same. Roaming all the time. Going to revert back to stock 12b and see what happens.
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I'm fairly certain it's hardware. I spent a day using my Galaxy Nexus - full 4G the entire day.
I went back to stock, "bricked" my phone about 3 times doing it (quotes because it was salvageable, but I had a couple hours where I was googling like a madman worried I dun ****ed up). Stock and the new radios made no difference. In fact, with stock it would only go to 4G if I restarted it - airplane wouldn't even bring 4G back. Figure that one out.
I went to the VZW store and I'm basically screwed. I can call LG and see if they'll replace it or use Asurion. Since I got the device off Swappa, they cannot replace it. They tried to order me a new one, but the system wouldn't let them. I don't really have time to call LG, so I'm probably going to Asurion it. Their process is stupid simple to do and they'll have a phone to me the next day. Then I can spend all day tinkering with it and getting CM11 back on, which I feel like I'm an expert at right now.
Sorry, wish I had better news. If you got the device from VZW, go to the store after flashing to stock. They might want to try swapping your SIM first though, so make sure you go to a store that has decent 4G coverage in its surrounding area.
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I'm fairly certain it's hardware. I spent a day using my Galaxy Nexus - full 4G the entire day.
I went back to stock, "bricked" my phone about 3 times doing it (quotes because it was salvageable, but I had a couple hours where I was googling like a madman worried I dun ****ed up). Stock and the new radios made no difference. In fact, with stock it would only go to 4G if I restarted it - airplane wouldn't even bring 4G back. Figure that one out.
I went to the VZW store and I'm basically screwed. I can call LG and see if they'll replace it or use Asurion. Since I got the device off Swappa, they cannot replace it. They tried to order me a new one, but the system wouldn't let them. I don't really have time to call LG, so I'm probably going to Asurion it. Their process is stupid simple to do and they'll have a phone to me the next day. Then I can spend all day tinkering with it and getting CM11 back on, which I feel like I'm an expert at right now.
Sorry, wish I had better news. If you got the device from VZW, go to the store after flashing to stock. They might want to try swapping your SIM first though, so make sure you go to a store that has decent 4G coverage in its surrounding area.
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Thanks dude. I think you are right, flash stock and get a new sim first. I have a hard time believing its a hardware problem. I just wrote this in the other post about roaming:
"Same exact problem here. I was on the phone with Verizon last night. I was running cloudy pro 2 (all his roms for that matter as they are international roms) and kept getting the roaming issue you speak of...with 3g. I went back to 11A completely bone stock. Just like you mentioned, I get 4g but then after like 10 minutes I get 3g with roaming. Of course this is after I spent 30 minutes on the phone with tech support. They 'zapped' my sim card and it appeared to work but no dice. Now before doing all this I downloaded build prop editor and changed the ro.build.target_country to US versus COM as everyone suggested in all the forums, still no dice. I've tried the toggle airplane mode trick...works for like 5 minutes and back to 3g roaming. I think maybe a new sim card and avoid international roms...bummer because cloudys roms are blistering fast. Interesting thing though, I installed xdabebbs rom and malladus' rom, after already running cloudys roms, and get 3g but no roaming. I also verified that Verizon wasn't throttling me or something like that. One more thing I tried is reflashing the basebands and 24A modem, no dice. If there is a build prop fix or some other fix I'd love to hear it.
Edit: One think I'd like to mention. When I had an S4 I switched between stock roms and AOSP roms and the network settings were responsible for causing the roaming because the stock rom was an older build than the AOSP. So when I had roaming, I'd reflashed the AOSP rom, changed the settings then flash the stock rom. It worked great. "
Edit#2: Ok making a little progress. Just did this:
Get a build.prop editor from the play store, and change ro.carrier to VZW and ro.build.target_operator to VZW and ro.build.target_country to US.
Initially it worked but when I make calls it gives me Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped and I cant make calls. I went into Settings, Apps, reset app preferences...that didn't fix it either.
4G/LTE is pretty solid now but again, I cant make calls.
Edit#3: Nevermind...roaming again.
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Thanks dude. I think you are right, flash stock and get a new sim first. I have a hard time believing its a hardware problem. I just wrote this in the other post about roaming:
"Same exact problem here. I was on the phone with Verizon last night. I was running cloudy pro 2 (all his roms for that matter as they are international roms) and kept getting the roaming issue you speak of...with 3g. I went back to 11A completely bone stock. Just like you mentioned, I get 4g but then after like 10 minutes I get 3g with roaming. Of course this is after I spent 30 minutes on the phone with tech support. They 'zapped' my sim card and it appeared to work but no dice. Now before doing all this I downloaded build prop editor and changed the ro.build.target_country to US versus COM as everyone suggested in all the forums, still no dice. I've tried the toggle airplane mode trick...works for like 5 minutes and back to 3g roaming. I think maybe a new sim card and avoid international roms...bummer because cloudys roms are blistering fast. Interesting thing though, I installed xdabebbs rom and malladus' rom, after already running cloudys roms, and get 3g but no roaming. I also verified that Verizon wasn't throttling me or something like that. One more thing I tried is reflashing the basebands and 24A modem, no dice. If there is a build prop fix or some other fix I'd love to hear it.
Edit: One think I'd like to mention. When I had an S4 I switched between stock roms and AOSP roms and the network settings were responsible for causing the roaming because the stock rom was an older build than the AOSP. So when I had roaming, I'd reflashed the AOSP rom, changed the settings then flash the stock rom. It worked great. "
Edit#2: Ok making a little progress. Just did this:
Get a build.prop editor from the play store, and change ro.carrier to VZW and ro.build.target_operator to VZW and ro.build.target_country to US.
Initially it worked but when I make calls it gives me Unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped and I cant make calls. I went into Settings, Apps, reset app preferences...that didn't fix it either.
4G/LTE is pretty solid now but again, I cant make calls.
Edit#3: Nevermind...roaming again.
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Alright, so, I have some interesting news.
I got a replacement device from Asurion - not just a replacement, a brand new device out of the box. I pulled it out of the box, swapped the SIM, same exact issue .
I went to Verizon and *****ed up a storm. They basically said "you bought it on eBay, not our problem" (I actually did Swappa - but they don't know Swappa and they do know eBay).
So I got the guy in the store to do some digging, and apparently Verizon has a point opened up with LG as they're seeing this on more and more devices - especially since KK came out. So I figured I could try an older radio. The device was on 12B when it arrived. I just flashed stock to 10B and it's the same issue. I don't know what's going on at this point - nothing makes sense but its apparently a known issue that's been appearing since the KK update.
I'm going to call Asurion and request a new device again since this one is doing the same thing, we'll see what happens. I'm still leaning towards hardware and thinking there was a slew of bad radios that went out.
Just for giggles - and I have no reason whatsoever to think this will work. I'm going to swap out the new SIM that came with the phone. Originally, I just put in my old SIM since the new one was taking too long to activate. I'm having the exact same issue I had previously. With that, I'm going to leave the new SIM in and see if it has the same dropping issue. The guy in the store had mentioned he could swap out the SIM but after a few days it will crap out again... which makes zero ****ing sense. Because of that, I might as well see what happens if I pop a new SIM in. While again, this makes 0 sense, I'm wondering if maybe the phone is frying the SIM somehow?
Again, it makes no sense at all, but I have nothing else left to try other than getting Asurion to repeatedly send me phones until I find one that works or they replace for another type of phone (which I REALLY don't want). I'll drop an edit in an hour or so if what I try makes a difference.
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I COULD just keep going to the VZW store and have them repeatedly swap out SIMs since it will fix it for a few days .
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Got the new SIM installed and it's working. The guy in the VZW store told me that we can keep swapping SIMs and the same issue will happen, which again, makes no sense to me. I'm at a bit of a loss to be honest. I wonder if it's possible that my old device was frying the SIMs (again, makes no sense) and that maybe the new SIM not going in my old device will fix the issue.
What ROMs are you running? A phone frying a Sim does not sound likely at all. I got my new sim card and have been running xdabebbs ROM with no network issues. I feel like my issues stemmed from the Intl ROMs.
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dr_w said:
What ROMs are you running? A phone frying a Sim does not sound likely at all. I got my new sim card and have been running xdabebbs ROM with no network issues. I feel like my issues stemmed from the Intl ROMs.
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The only ROM I've ever run was CM11.
Same thing happened on stock though after flashing through the LG Flash Tool. Then, with the new phone from Asurion, used old SIM - 3G only. Used new SIM - 4G sticks.
So as of saturday my unlocked TMobile Note 4 stopped working as a phone, and won't let me make calls.
Information:
-Was on Dr. Ketan L3 version of his rom when it stopped working
-Using the N910T on AT&T
-IMEI is fine and not damaged, both numbers match (using *#06#)
-It shows bars, but when I go to make a call "Not Registered On Network"
What I've Done:
-Flashed Stock Firmware via Odin (Autoboot, and F.Time Rest checked)
-Factory Reset after odin flash
-Checked APN
-Set on LTE/WCDMA/GSM
-Searched for Networks, finds them, but when I choose AT&T it takes forever and then finally kicks me out and then in notifications, I get the "Not Registered to Network"
-Did the remove the battery thing, and removed sim
-Went to AT&T and got a new sim, worked for 1hr (sporadically) and then went back to "Not Registered on Network"
-At the store I was on phone with AT&T tech trying to troubleshoot the problem and that is when it was working shortly
-Called T-Mobile and checked to see if they blocked my IMEI number, nope they didn't, couldn't help me out further than that
-AT&T was showing that it was a Note 4 so not having that coming up as a Blackberry issue that some reported, so that's not it
-*#0011# shows service limited, but it is unlocked and everything is fine, the IMEI is good, and all is well but the limited service
-Put it in Airplane mode and woke it back from there after 5+minutes
-cleaned the connectors on the sim (new sim anyways so shouldn't really need them)
I'm running out of options, the only thing I can think of being the problem is that I might have started out using this phone on COD2, and when I flashed a COG2 firmware it didn't like that and so my phone's account settings didn't fully transfer.
Also I was messing around with the bands settings (*#2263#) what should they be on? Automatic, LTE/GSM only, or what?
Settings should be on automatic. One more thing to try is go for a drive with the phone, at least 5 miles from your house, and see if it does this when connected to other towers. I had this same issue years ago and it turned out to be a malfunctioning tower by my house.
If it still does it on other towers, then it may be hardware-related
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Settings should be on automatic. One more thing to try is go for a drive with the phone, at least 5 miles from your house, and see if it does this when connected to other towers. I had this same issue years ago and it turned out to be a malfunctioning tower by my house.
If it still does it on other towers, then it may be hardware-related
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Thanks, yeah it kicks in randomly for like a minute and then dies, I take it to my parent's house (about 10 miles away) and along the way I get a good signal, but then when I reach their house, back to nothing. I was using it just fine the week prior. I partially blame Dr. Ketan, ever since installing his rom, I had multiple issues. I since uninstalled it and tried going back to stock. Any idea on what a good "safe" band setting is? I have that settings set to automatic, but if there was a good "safe" band that would be great. A common LTE tower. Even when I do connect or get connected, I can't register on that network, my phone won't let me. I've tried that. The bars drop to zero. I damaged my antenna wire (white one) and I just replaced it with a new one I purchased, but the hacked together one seemed to be doing the same quality job as the new one is. It shows the signal, but as soon as you try tying it down to a network it rejects it. I was afraid that when I flashed the stock image via odin it removed the unlock, but it was still there. I just hate that now I have a $500 pda, when it was a phone and now i'm relegated to using a f*ing flip phone.
i think your antenna cable is damaged. the only way to know that is be close to a tower, and see if your work or not.
bought and replaced with new ones, I get full bars, in my bedroom, but apparently they're tied to Tmobile since when I try to register it to AT&T they magically disappear, but when I close the app, they come back at the same strength level. I can't register them to Tmo since the sim. Yet my phone is telling me it's unlocked (*#0011#), IMEI = PASS, 1;
I think the prob is due to the different frequencies.
Your baseband would not be tied to a rom(ie Dr Ketan) Unless that rom contains Modem.bin
Your apn needs to be att if that's your Sim obviously.
International version has a different chipset. .. I know it's not your case. .
But it's open to any Sim. ..
I can say this.. I have a N2 unlocked (tmob) I run an Att Sim it works but the sig is really spotty... COD6/ COG2 may not be lining up frequency wise with your att Sim. ..
Try rolling your baseband back even further. .
Flashvetrin
Any clue on to what i should use for best results? Like 850/1900 or 900/2100? What is a good LTE band? Where could I find a map of LTE bands used by carriers, I know how to get to that secret menu and manually change it to see if I get better results?
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Any clue on to what i should use for best results? Like 850/1900 or 900/2100? What is a good LTE band? Where could I find a map of LTE bands used by carriers, I know how to get to that secret menu and manually change it to see if I get better results?
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Well I would think automatic is out for sure.. the other prob would be after reboot the chipset will search for the default.. but I could be wrong.
I do not know what the numbers would be for band identification.
You may get lucky when calling Att and ask for someone in a higher tier. To give you some numbers for frequincies .
But you have ruled out hardware correct??
By putting a tmob Sim in????
Cuz I know you posted you did antenna work..
And I do know you said you get bars then it fades..
The fact it fades and doesn't lock into even a G band for example. Just leads me to believe the apn can't lock down based on the frequincie and the built in lte chipset...
It would be nice to just flash an att modem wouldn't it?? But don't even think about it.. lol you'll soft brick..
I wish I had a better solid answer you. You may just start testing those different bands and see if you get closer to a lock.
Flashvetrin
U rock, lol. Thx man
My Tricked Out N910P
But what could have happened that made it crap out like that since it was working just fine beforehand for 2 solid months on custom roms and what not? That's the frustrating part, I've been flashing different modems on my phone, but none have been successful. Apparently there are 3 different N910T, how do you know which ones to play with? I flashed N910T(3) bands, that failed, I did try N910A, obviously failed. Then I lost my IMEI number, got terrified, tried reflashing EFS in TWRP, nothing. Then reflashed COG2 bands, it came back. Is there an app on the Playstore that would definitively tell you if your network chip is damaged? I wouldn't know what to look for.
Have you taken apart the Note 4, what are all those contact points, are those antenna things? One of those were damaged, they're like folded metal spring boards with gold tips (same kind of thing that is used to install a qi receiver, same design). I took my tweezer and fixed it, but could that be the culprit, since on the surface, it seems like the network is fine. Works really well in WCDMA, but not much else. I was able to make calls using GSM only, but my signal was 1 bar and the audio quality was questionable, so I left it alone for 10 minutes on that hoping it would force a reconnect. This is frustrating, since I wasted $500 on this phone and not having it work after two months means now I'm back to a featureless phone.
Thanks for your advice thus far. Flashing different modems hasn't been working out well, I just wished I could remember what baseband version the guy had the phone on when I first got it? I thought it was COD6, it was definitely on Lollipop, but if it's a 910T(2) would I know, how would I know?
How do you flash NON_HLOS and modem.bin at the same time in Odin? I know Modem does bands, but what does Non-Hlos do? I thought i read LTE, so if those aren't in sync and on two different versions could that be the issue? I extracted them from the full TAR firmware files.
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But what could have happened that made it crap out like that since it was working just fine beforehand for 2 solid months on custom roms and what not? That's the frustrating part, I've been flashing different modems on my phone, but none have been successful. Apparently there are 3 different N910T, how do you know which ones to play with? I flashed N910T(3) bands, that failed, I did try N910A, obviously failed. Then I lost my IMEI number, got terrified, tried reflashing EFS in TWRP, nothing. Then reflashed COG2 bands, it came back. Is there an app on the Playstore that would definitively tell you if your network chip is damaged? I wouldn't know what to look for.
Have you taken apart the Note 4, what are all those contact points, are those antenna things? One of those were damaged, they're like folded metal spring boards with gold tips (same kind of thing that is used to install a qi receiver, same design). I took my tweezer and fixed it, but could that be the culprit, since on the surface, it seems like the network is fine. Works really well in WCDMA, but not much else. I was able to make calls using GSM only, but my signal was 1 bar and the audio quality was questionable, so I left it alone for 10 minutes on that hoping it would force a reconnect. This is frustrating, since I wasted $500 on this phone and not having it work after two months means now I'm back to a featureless phone.
Thanks for your advice thus far. Flashing different modems hasn't been working out well, I just wished I could remember what baseband version the guy had the phone on when I first got it? I thought it was COD6, it was definitely on Lollipop, but if it's a 910T(2) would I know, how would I know?
How do you flash NON_HLOS and modem.bin at the same time in Odin? I know Modem does bands, but what does Non-Hlos do? I thought i read LTE, so if those aren't in sync and on two different versions could that be the issue? I extracted them from the full TAR firmware files.
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Heres
A simple method for COD6
And try odin 3.07
I need to think about this some more and get back to you...
This is a partial firmware.. it consists of the modem and bootloader COD6.
Also to rule out damage if you can get a T Mobile Sim put it in the device and see if it locks down a signal....
Flashvetrin
That was my next move, not having any real income but disability and little coming from that, I thought that was the next logical step too. I'll get a tmobile to go sim and try it see if it can't lock on to that, and see if that doesn't set it on the right path. Have you heard of other people having COG2 issues on AT&T unlocked? Maybe that was the problem, something there broke the connection. I don't know, but whatever it is, I can't thank you enough, you've at least given me more options to try that I couldn't think of on my own. I'll try that file.
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That was my next move, not having any real income but disability and little coming from that, I thought that was the next logical step too. I'll get a tmobile to go sim and try it see if it can't lock on to that, and see if that doesn't set it on the right path. Have you heard of other people having COG2 issues on AT&T unlocked? Maybe that was the problem, something there broke the connection. I don't know, but whatever it is, I can't thank you enough, you've at least given me more options to try that I couldn't think of on my own. I'll try that file.
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You are the first of this kind that I'm aware of.. in regards to this issue..
Make sure you read the detail in if your device bootloops, to reboot recovery and flash the Rom.. if you want flash the Rom in the op that I've linked you to.
Wipe sys/dal/cach/data..
And flash it can't hurt.. [emoji16]
I really hope a Tmob Sim and or COD6 gives you results...and good ones at that.. [emoji2] [emoji106]
Flashvetrin
Got the sim card, $65 for that crap, and it didn't work. Called T Mobile customer service, explained my situation and how I was calling on another phone on another carrier and they insisted on calling me back on the broken not working phone. I guess I'm just screwed, and lost $500, which like I said, I can't afford to have. It's just so frustrating. I also tried the COD6 partial firmware, and nothing there also. I'll try t-mobile again. The only and last option I have, if possible, is to try to relock my phone and re-unlock it since there isn't any real way to tell if my GSM is damaged. I think my unlocked status got damaged when my phone upgraded to COG2, and since it's in that weird limbo state I can't use my phone. Do you know how to relock it?
Edit: When I look at my IMEI Number through *#06# it shows that the last two digits (independent of the actual IMEI number, since that matches everywhere) to the right of the "/" as 14, yet through "about device" it shows my imei version as 10. I assume that the 14 in the "06" screen is the version it's reading off the phone, could that be causing the issue? How would you even fix that? I don't know. but thanks again, you've been helpful.