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Have New LG 47LA6200 Smart TV, SIMPLINK ON, AUTO POWER ON & Cc can't turn TV ON

Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.

larryvand said:
Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.

I have an LG LM4700, and my AVR with CEC control never turned on/off my tv, but my tv would turn my AVR on/off.
I read on a forum post somewhere (take with a grain of salt) that LG didn't fully implement the full HDMI-CEC spec with SIMPLINK.

SkitchBeatz said:
You're not the only one. I have a 2013 LG TV (LN5700) and auto power does not work. Same setup as you-- Inputs are correctly switched but the darn display won't turn on.
I'm not sure whether the problem is with the Chromecast itself or the display as I don't have any other HDMI-CEC devices to test with.
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I also have an LG BP530 a Blu-Ray player which also has Simplink (HDMI-CEC). With both the TV and the Blu-Ray player OFF, pushing the front play button of the Blu-Ray player, turns the blu-player ON, turns the TV ON, switches to the right input and plays the DVD. In other words the Simplink (HDMI-CEC) protocol as implemented by LG for all their LG devices WORKS.
I'm thinking that HDMI-CEC may be a "standard" but every OEM has only tested their implementation with their own stuff. That is why each OEM uses a different name (Anynet+, bravia link/sync, simplink, Ratga link, etc...) instead of HDMI-CEC. I bet if you put the HDMI signal through a scope and try to isolate the control signals you will find that from each OEM they are just a tad different (maybe a bit longer pulse..).
Google could fix this in firmware of course but they will have to test for each brand individually and in the end possibly they will have to have an option to select the type of TV the user has for the differences in HDMI-CEC implementations. Either that or each OEM will have to update their sets to more correctly adhere to the standard.

This is why I never put much faith in HDMI CEC when I use to install home theaters and media rooms. It always led to inconsistent operation with some devices working and others not. I would always turn that feature off and program a universal remote for the customer.
At least it is switching inputs for you, though. That to me is the most important. Are you mainly using a phone/tablet for chromecast or a PC? If mainly using your phone/tablet, you could use LG's app to turn on the TV before casting. I know it is not ideal, but unfortunately HDMI CEC was a standard but all manufacturers implemented it differently. There is currently no way for chromecast to work the way it was demoed to work across all manufacturers' TVs.
EDIT: Some ray of light is that LG is a hardware partner with Google. Chromecast support might get pushed to your current TV and/or Blu-ray which would solve your problems. If nothing else, I suspect LG to come out with a new Blu-ray player that supports Chromecast.
EDIT 2: I forgot that LG's network protocol does not support turning "on" the TV or Blu-ray so using LG's app will not help you.

In fact I have 3 Chromecasts (for our 3 TVs) and the Chromecast input switching works so well on the LG that I hooked all 3 on the LG and I was able to cast from Chrome at will to one at a time and they would automatically switch to the correct input on each and every time. Now if they can fix the Auto Power ON I will be all set. I also think that LG and Google have a good relationship so they can hopefully work out who will update what (Chromecast or the LG TV) to fix this. I certainly will continue bothering them both (Google and LG) till they fix the issue.

larryvand said:
Ok guys, I need some help. I have a brand new 2013 LG LA6200 Smart TV. HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) on the LG is turned on and so is SIMPLINK Auto Power is set to on. I have the Chromecast dongle powered from the USB power supply rather than the TV USB port. Here is the problem. When the TV is off and I select Chromecast Google Play movie to be cast, I thought Chromecast was supposed to turn ON the TV and flip to the right input and start playing. However the TV never turns on. It is just sitting there turned off. However if I manually turn it on, the correct input is selected and the movie is streaming. So... how does Chromecast is supposed to automatically turn the TV on?? Cause in my setup it ain't happening. Any help will be greatly appreciated. BTW, is there a Google Chromecast place to post questions like that? Thanks.
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Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4

xuser said:
Read link below to solve your problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44248801&postcount=4
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Sorry but no dice. Simplink settings: Simplink ON, Auto Power ON. The TV recognizes the 3 Chromecasts plugged into the 3 HDMI inputs with the Simplink logo on the input TV screen, but it refuses to allow them to turn the TV on. All 3 are powered with the external power brick. However, once the TV is manually turned on, the Chromecasts do switch to the correct input when something is cast to them. So as far as the 2013 LG model 47/50/55LA6200 is concerned, the only issue is that Chromecast will not turn the TV ON even though the Auto Power setting of Simplink (LG speak for HDMI-CEC) is on.
Either Chromecast or LG need to update the firmware for their devices, as I have said before the LG Blu-Ray player with Simplink does not have that problem and is able to turn the TV on just fine.

Placeholder for HDMI-CEC
http://www.quantumdata.com/pdf/CEC_White_Paper.pdf

Has anyone gotten the Chromecast to turn ON the TV?

And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,

CEC, or Consumer Electronics Control, allows for HDMI devices to be controlled with one remote control. If your television has CEC support, you may be able to turn on and change the input on your TV using your phone, tablet or computer while using Chromecast. Please note that in order for CEC to work (if CEC is supported by your TV), your Chromecast must be powered by a power outlet.
Manufacturers often call CEC by different names, including Anynet+ (Samsung), Aquos Link (Sharp), BRAVIA Link and BRAVIA Sync (Sony), HDMI-CEC (Hitachi), CE-Link and Regza Link (Toshiba), SimpLink (LG), HDAVI Control, EZ-Sync, VIERA Link (Panasonic), EasyLink (Philips), and NetCommand for HDMI (Mitsubishi).
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From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370

larryvand said:
And if you have, tell us how you did it. I have been trying everything on my LG SIMPLINK TV and no go. All the right settings on the TV are ON but still no go,
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It worked after I turned on Anynet+ on my Samsung TV (from 2009). I also had to move from the TV USB to an external USB Power (actually it's my Google TV that provides power) because when the TV is off, it does not power the USB port.

This is a brand new 2013 LG smart TV. I have turned on the SIMPLINK and the auto power on, and the chromecast is using its own powersupply. I also have a SIMPLINK blu-ray player and that works perfectly. When I use the blu-ray player remote it will turn on the TV and switch to the right channel. Same with the LG TV remote control it can turn off and on the blu-ray player. So the HDMI-CEC (SIMPLINK) is not the issue. It is Chromecast as far as I can tell. With the TV off, if I try to cast a youtube video, chromecast does not turn on the TV for some reason. If the TV is already on but in a different input, it does switch to the right input so part of the Chromecast HDMI-CEC is working. I'm at a loss here.
What version of firmware your chromecast uses?

eyeballer said:
From: https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3210071?hl=en&ref_topic=3267370
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That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).

Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?

Mine is working as advertised. Powered by AC.

wsimon said:
Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
Also no power without the USB.
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wsimon said:
Has anyone been able to plug it directly into their receiver and get it to turn it on?
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I got mine to flip to the input when I started a YouTube. Still working with it to see what all can be automated.
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I have a Monoprice 4 port HDMI switcher and the Chromecast is plugged into it. It keeps turning on the other TV. My wife thought we had a ghost.

My 5 yo Samsung 46in LCD detects it as an AnyNet device and switches inputs but won't power on. My 2 yo Insignia 24in powers on.
I think it all rests on age
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Mine works and turns the TV on and even switches to the Chromecast input if I start a cast.
I have a 3 year old Sony 46EX710 with the Chromecast plugged into power using the USB port on the TV. It seems my TV powers the USB ports at all time, even if the TV is off.
It doesn't switch back to the last input or turn the TV off if I stop the cast though (I'm sure that has more to do with the TV than the Chromecast).

My Sony 40EX400 turns on when I have it plugged into the wall, but not when plugged into the USB port. (indicating the usb port does not provide power when the tv is turned off)

I dont believe usb ports receive power from tvs when the tv is off thus the reasoning that you need the wall outlet. I have setup 3 chromecasts and all require wall outlet power to turn on tvs, 2 samsung and 1 sony tv.

I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.

empirescrumble said:
That's interesting, because I have my Chromecast running off of USB power (from my TV's USB port), and it still turns on my TV and switches inputs automatically when it detects casting. For what it's worth, my TV is a cheap 32" Vizio smart TV (purchased earlier this year from Target).
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That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.

timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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Finally someone with an LG. I have a brand new LG 2013 47LA6200 smart TV and I still can not turn the TV ON (switches inputs just fine). I have both settings to ON for the SIMPLINK and AUTO POWER.
My Chromecast Firmware version is 12072 (you can see that on the Chromecast app). What is yours?

Mine has the same build number. My TV is the 47LW5600. Mine just worked without messing with any settings. Although, I've looked, and I can't seem to fine my simplink settings in the menus.
EDIT: Just realized that there's a simplink button on the stock remote that opens up the simplink menu. Only has options to turn off and on.

larryvand said:
That is interesting. Your USB ports must be powered all the time, even when your TV is off. What TV do you have.
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Here is the TV I have:
http://store.vizio.com/e322ar.html
However, after the TV has been off for a long while, the Chromecast seems to shut off at some point, not sure at what point though. Oh well, I can live with that. My TV is usually on, even when I'm not watching it, for some kind of background noise, haha

timtlm said:
I've got a 2011 LG TV (simplink) that works with turning it on. However, my Vizio smart TV doesn't turn on. I need to do some more testing with the Vizio, because it would be handy if it turned it on.
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I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!

mikaelsnavy said:
I had to go into the CEC settings on my Vizio smart TV to make it work, but it now works perfectly!
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I have turned CEC on in the settings. There's only an on/off option, and detect devices, which it does detect the chromecast. It switches inputs just fine, but won't turn on the TV. I've also tested my HDMI receiver, and it doesn't turn that on either. However, I know the receiver can be turned on via CEC because my TV is capable of turning the receiver on. Maybe an update will offer better CEC compatibility.
EDIT: My raspberry pi turns on my vizio TV when you power it on, so the TV is definitely capable of being turned on via CEC.

Chromecast keeps turning my tv on

I have one TV in my house (Toshiba 55HT1U) that keeps getting turned on by the Chromecast. I turn the TV off, and then with a few minutes, the TV will be back on again. Unplug the Chromecast, and the TV stays off. I have tried multiple Chromecasts with the same results, I disabled Regza Link (Toshiba's HDMI-CEC), and it still keeps happening. This also happens whether the Chromecast is connected to my TV or to the receiver which is then connected to the TV. I have read where this particular TV suffers from this issue with other devices, but I wish there was a way to turn it off from the Chromecast end.
Right now, my solution is to go and unplug the Chromecast when I am not using it...hardly an elegant solution.

Have you check the manufacture website of your TV. I know some TV within the last few years, if it have a USB hook up, you can typically update the TV Firmware it may solve your problem. Just a shot in the dark. Also Chromecast is also getting an update.
jumpmanjay said:
I have one TV in my house (Toshiba 55HT1U) that keeps getting turned on by the Chromecast. I turn the TV off, and then with a few minutes, the TV will be back on again. Unplug the Chromecast, and the TV stays off. I have tried multiple Chromecasts with the same results, I disabled Regza Link (Toshiba's HDMI-CEC), and it still keeps happening. This also happens whether the Chromecast is connected to my TV or to the receiver which is then connected to the TV. I have read where this particular TV suffers from this issue with other devices, but I wish there was a way to turn it off from the Chromecast end.
Right now, my solution is to go and unplug the Chromecast when I am not using it...hardly an elegant solution.
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GreenDroidX said:
Have you check the manufacture website of your TV. I know some TV within the last few years, if it have a USB hook up, you can typically update the TV Firmware it may solve your problem. Just a shot in the dark. Also Chromecast is also getting an update.
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I have seen where some people have tried the update and it made no difference, but I will definitely try this when I get home tonight.

Find your HDMI-CEC options (whatever Toshiba calls it) and turn on HDMI-CEC but turn off Auto power. That will allow HDMI-CEC to switch to the right input but will not allow the HDMI-CEC to auto power the TV.

I have the exact same problem with a Toshiba 46G300U1 so let me know if you find a solution. It seems like a bunch of the Toshiba's all have this problem and I doubt Toshiba is going to fix it. I've tried various different kinds of options (connecting the Chromecast through a cable, a HDMI switch etc.). As long as the Chromecast is switched on and connected to the TV it always turns on automatically. Obviously disabling HDMI-CEC doesnt seem to help. I suspect there is a bug in the Toshiba that still keeps acting on HDMI-CEC signalsI am planning to file a support case with Chromecast as they are more likely to fix the problem (maybe an option to disable CEC on the Chromecast) than Toshiba. But since that is unlikely I am thinking maybe I can try a cable that doesnt properly support HDMI-CEC. It seems CEC is a separate wire and there are lots of people online complaining about cables that don't support CEC.

Try not powering your device via USB from the TV. (If you are) My LG TV seems to have issues with CEC from devices that get power from it via USB. Does weird stuff like this

So I tried updating the firmware on my TV...they said just put the new firmware on a USB stick, then plug the stick into the TV and it will automatically prompt you to start the install. Well, it didn't. I tried 2 different USB sticks with no success.
My "fix" was to just power the Chromecast WITH the USB port on the TV. That way the Chromecast is off when the TV is, so it won't try to turn it back on.

Great idea. I am connecting my USB cable to the TV's USB port for now. I might try connecting the Chromecast via my audio receiver later on. FWIW the firmware update did nothing to solve the issue on my TV.

I don't want to disable CEC on my TV, because I'd still like to have the CEC capability to turn on/off my home theatre automatically along with the TV. I can use USB power from the TV to power my Chromecast, but once the TV is on, my home theatre mutes automatically because it gives up control of CEC to chromecast. It's an unfortunate software decision made by Sony, the maker of my home theatre. I want the home theatre speakers to stay active, but Sony has programmed it to mute when another device on the same HDMI bus takes CEC control.
If you don't want your Chromecast to be a CEC-control device, meaning you don't want it turning your set on at all, or you don't want it overriding other CEC devices, just order lindy-usa.com part number 711110-1, which is a HDMI CEC Less Adapter, Female to Male, and put it inline with your Chromecast. It disables the CEC sense line from your Chromecast to your TV. Problem solved. Neall

[Q] Turn TV Off after done with Chromecast

I really like how the Chromecast can turn my TV to the correct source and turn it on when I start casting. But is there a way to tell it to turn the TV off when I'm done with it. For example I'm using my ipad to start a movie on Netflix and cast it to the Chromecast. Everything works good. But I left the TV remote next to the TV. Is there a way to turn the TV off from the ipad or a computer with the Chromecast that way I can literally leave my TV remote in a drawer and never have to tough it?

I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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If you have Verizon fios they have an app that goes through your router that you can change tv don't need IR, since it uses wifi.
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The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
Pull the plug on the TV and it will not send a power down command to other devices on the CEC Network but hit the power Button and it will.
Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
Better would be if the CCast would send a Change Input command to go back to the last input before it took over (No command for that in CEC that I know of) so that if you streamed something when the TV was seeing the Cablebox, It would switch to CCast Input when it had a stream and then would switch back to whatever input it was on before CCast took over the screen.
That would be much more useful than a power off command which is great only when you want to watch one stream and then nothing else.

SKyRocKeting727 said:
I don't believe chromecast is capable of that. The device you're using has to have an IR blaster to be able to turn the tv on and off. Most new high-end androids have an IR blaster (G2, Note 3, S4, One).
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Huh? The Chromecast can already turn on and change inputs on some tvs using HDMI CEC. It is most likely a design decision not to turn the tv off when it disconnects.

My TV has an option in the menu to auto switch inputs when it detects activity on one of them through HDMI. So when I turn my bluray on the TV will detect that and switch to INPUT 3 and preempt my satellite input. It's kind of a pain that when I insert a bluray into the player it auto switches even if I'm not ready.
-- EDIT: nevermind, that was an older TV. New one doesn't, so it's HDMI CEC (VieraLink for mine) as bozzykid said.

Asphyx said:
The CEC Power off command is usually sent as part of the power down sequence of the device tat is sending it.
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Since the Chromecast never really powers down (it does restart) it is difficult to know when it should send a power off command.
It would not be good to have it send one after every stream is done because most people aren't done watching TV after every stream completes.
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It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...

edscholl said:
It'd be nice if there was a manual option... Maybe an option when you long click the chromecast button...
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I would rather they just made a TV Remote app for CCast to control the whole damn thing! LOL

I pull the USB plug (which supplies power) when I'm done watching.
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While I watching a stream on Chromecast, Google Android smartwatch with Chromecast control popped into my head as I picked up the smartphone to pause Netflix for a snack break.

Chromecast turning OFF TV

How do you turn off your TV when you turn it on using your Chromecast ?
Here in France & Europe, many of us are using 3play boxes (Internet/TV/phone) to watch TV, these are connected to TVs using (another) HDMI port
Many (if not all) of those boxes are able to turn on/off TVs using their remotes, OR THEIR IOS/ANDROID EMULATED TV REMOTES
So now, when I want to turn off my TV turned on using my Chromecast, I use an android emulated TV remote to do that...
A Chromecast developer told me he saw nothing (documented) inside the Chromecast SDK code to send the appropriate HDMI CEC signal to the HDMI TV port in order to shutdown ; OK,but who will develop a widget button to do this using orders sent by boxes ?
Google will not like...
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PS : other possibility ? Please, Mr Google, give us the proper SDK code to do it, we ensure you we will continue to watch the nice pics / even ads if any... sometimes

Thats cause there is no CEC support to turn off the TV!

Is there any command to shutdown Chromecast?
I'm thinking that the TV maybe shutdown when it looses its HDMI signal?
/Marco

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Thats cause there is no CEC support to turn off the TV!
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Do you mean that chromecast hardware/software can not do it? Because as far as CEC commands, I believe there is such support.
In fact, my xbmc media player shuts down my TV (and also my AVR) when I shut it down (these are xbmc’s configuration options for libcec: http://imgur.com/Yrss7lw,nVrqyny ).

kpiris said:
Do you mean that chromecast hardware/software can not do it? Because as far as CEC commands, I believe there is such support.
In fact, my xbmc media player shuts down my TV (and also my AVR) when I shut it down (these are xbmc’s configuration options for libcec: http://imgur.com/Yrss7lw,nVrqyny ).
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Most devices do not support turning off a TV via CEC with the exception of AVRs.
And many AVRs choose not to do it using the TV as a Menu and info display instead.
Only powering off the AVR will trigger a TV off in those cases.
The CEC commands on the CCast are minimal at best....
Change the input and turn on the TV if it is off.
CCast would not turn off a TV cause it can not assume you are done streaming to it from the CCast. If that were the case every time the default screen loaded up the TV would go off. So it needs to be done via the CCast receiver/player and if you switch to another source the other source should determine if the monitor is needed or not so no need for the CCast to make that decision.
What really needs to be added to the CEC commands is the ability to use the TV or AVR remote to control playback.
But again thats something the Developer Receiver/Player on the CCast has to do the device itself can't really do that for them.
In regards to your XBMC, XBMC assumes it is the only device connected to the TV, It even expects you will watch your live TV through that and that no other device is connected to the TV but XBMC.

Buy a Belkin Wemo or a smart plug... easy peezy.

zzEvilGeniuszz said:
Buy a Belkin Wemo or a smart plug... easy peezy.
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OR Hope Google creates some functionality on the Default screen to control the device, change inputs and turn off a TV if needed. But it would require leaving whatever app you were using and loading another app designed to access the default screen control layer.
Basically the device is capable of doing a lot of things it's just that the way it would have to happen is not all that much different than looking for the TV remote and doing it that way!
CCast is considered a "Source" device...Most Source devices are not meant to control power it is assumes the Source Selector device (or Router, in this case an AVR) will handle and determine if and when the TV is needed and shut it down appropriately.
This is why if you have an AVR you should be plugging the CCast into the AVR not the TV.
Only if the TV is acting as the router for sources should the CCast be plugged into it directly. If you have an AVR all your sources should go through that!
In fact it's already started as many AVRs already have the ability to network and play networked sourced content like Pandora and Sirius.
I suspect it won't be long before some type of CCast like capability is built into them that you can control from a mobile OR via the AVR Remote.
Of not AndroidTV then perhaps Amazon Fire or Roku support.