[Q] Bravia Engine - Is it worth it? - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, my bootloader is suddenly unlockable since the .244 firmware update from Sony. So my question is this: is it worth losing the Bravia Engine by unlocking my bootloader? Is the Bravia Engine really a feature worth having on the XZ and are there any substitutes?

quantumtraveler said:
Hi, my bootloader is suddenly unlockable since the .244 firmware update from Sony.
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If your Phone came from a carrier then it isn't unlockable regardless of the change in status.

XperienceD said:
If your Phone came from a carrier then it isn't unlockable regardless of the change in status.
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Sad news :crying: thanks. XperienceD what's your take on Bravia anyway? Is it worth keeping a locked bootloader for Bravia Engine?

I unlocked my bootloader as soon as I got my phone. I would rather have an unlocked bootloader so I have the ability to flash custom roms and kernels then seen the colours a little brighter when watching videos and viewing pictures.

5worthington said:
I unlocked my bootloader as soon as I got my phone. I would rather have an unlocked bootloader so I have the ability to flash custom roms and kernels then seen the colours a little brighter when watching videos and viewing pictures.
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Yeah well the biggest downside to locked bootloader is no chance of AOSP roms :crying: luckily most of the Xperia's UI is pretty cool, particularly the Honami email, messaging and contacts. So after XperienceD's news about bootloader being locked if the handset came from a carrier, I can live with it for now... gonna try unlock it anyway

quantumtraveler said:
gonna try unlock it anyway
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Good luck

quantumtraveler said:
Sad news :crying: thanks. XperienceD what's your take on Bravia anyway? Is it worth keeping a locked bootloader for Bravia Engine?
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I'd prefer to keep it but would happily sacrifice it for the ability to be able to unlock my BL. You can try for nothing but if it does come from a carrier then I've yet to see anyone who has reported this change in status then go on to unlock it. I'll never have another Phone from a carrier that's for sure.

Is it worth?
Simply. Yes. That's my opinion.
Btw, I unlocked bootloader and I still have BE2, all these DRM keys. Is it normal?

Seems http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/ is intermittently down tonight loaded the web page earlier but can't load it now. Will check it out tomorrow, my phone is from Vodacom so it's a carrier phone.. this will be an interesting test. Is it normal for Sonymobile website to be down? "The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later." Poor show if it is..

Can anyone confirm if you're getting an error on this link: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
Sony Xperia
Error
The website encountered an unexpected error. Please try again later.
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quantumtraveler said:
Can anyone confirm if you're getting an error on this link: http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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Seems like it's down at the moment.
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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It worked, unlocked my bootloader with a carrier issued handset I bought my phone from a dude when it was three months old. It came from Vodacom. It had the Vodafone logo splash screen when booting from stock and he showed me a photo of the registration screen at Vodacom when he picked it up. So I assume it was a carrier issued handset. Anyway, seems all is well now :highfive:

Bootloop on Sony logo after unlocking bootloader. What am I missing? Do I need to flash new .244 firmware and then flash custom rom?

quantumtraveler said:
Bootloop on Sony logo after unlocking bootloader. What am I missing? Do I need to flash new .244 firmware and then flash custom rom?
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I flashed .244 stock firmware in Flashtools and now it's fine. But I can't flash custom kernel, so I suppose that means my bootloader is still locked? But when I unlocked it, it said successful

quantumtraveler said:
I flashed .244 stock firmware in Flashtools and now it's fine. But I can't flash custom kernel, so I suppose that means my bootloader is still locked? But when I unlocked it, it said successful
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My guess is that something went wrong with BL unlocking.

quantumtraveler said:
But I can't flash custom kernel, so I suppose that means my bootloader is still locked? But when I unlocked it, it said successful
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Type *#*#7378423#*#* (service) in dialer.
Then open Service info > Configuration
Check "Rooting status"
if it says "Bootloader unlocked: Yes" guess what
if it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" or something like this, your bl isn't unlocked

-woczarder- said:
Type *#*#7378423#*#* (service) in dialer.
Then open Service info > Configuration
Check "Rooting status"
if it says "Bootloader unlocked: Yes" guess what
if it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" or something like this, your bl isn't unlocked
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Thanks, this makes sense! Mine says "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" so back to the drawing board..

When I unlock my bootloader, I know I'll lose my sdcard content but will I still be able to boot into the rom (I'm using monx for LB/UB) or do I need to re-flash?

Success!!
Success!! :highfive: thanks for the advice here, bootloader is now unlocked yes man :victory::victory:

XperienceD said:
I'd prefer to keep it but would happily sacrifice it for the ability to be able to unlock my BL. You can try for nothing but if it does come from a carrier then I've yet to see anyone who has reported this change in status then go on to unlock it. I'll never have another Phone from a carrier that's for sure.
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Hey XperienceD, dunno how this happened. My bootloader changed from a status of unlock not allowed to unlock allowed after I flashed .244. Now I managed to unlock the bootloader, and it's a carrier phone from Vodacom in South Africa. Strange but true :victory:

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I'm about to sell my XZ

Cause my bootloader is locked... Here's the only solution i found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896553
But unfortunately doesn't work on the XZ :silly: You guys think there will be a way soon?
Did you do this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2153261
Ofc and it says that my device can't be unlocked...
Poustic said:
Wtf ! I know that if bootloader unlock allowed says no my device can't be unlocked...
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Well, you didn't write it in the first post... sorry
No problem i probably wasn't clear enough
Poustic said:
Ofc and it says that my device can't be unlocked...
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have you rooted your phone or was bl unlock: no before rooting ?
Was bl unlock: no before and after rooting
Poustic said:
Cause my bootloader is locked... Here's the only solution i found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896553
But unfortunately doesn't work on the XZ :silly: You guys think there will be a way soon?
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Well..i am not sure what kind of locked device is this. We don't have career locked phones in my country. They sell it without any lock...
can anyone explain it what kind of lock is this ? and it's not even allowing to root...
Foas said:
Well..i am not sure what kind of locked device is this. We don't have career locked phones in my country. They sell it without any lock...
can anyone explain it what kind of lock is this ? and it's not even allowing to root...
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Bootloader locked means u cannot load anything at boot that would tinker with the basic core of the device, like u cannot use custom kernels when ur bootloader is locked that is y ppl unlock their boot loaders Google for further info.
As for the OP's problem :
This is a known issue when u root ur device without unlocking bootloader, the solution to this is to do a full repair using Sony Suite which will result in loss of all data phone ,SD card etc .
check this link out its clearly stated over there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186368
Troubleshooting:
if your device has unlockable bootloader then after applying this hack the bootloader status will turn "Bootloader unlock allowed: No"
in that case dont worry the users have reported that doing a repair via SEUS will flash back stock firmware and turn this status to "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" (the same might also be achieved by flashing a stock FTF using FlashTool <yet to be confirmed>)
ROOT WILL BE LOST BY DOING THE ABOVE AND YOUR INTERNAL STORAGE MAY GET WIPED!
SO DO A BACKUP OF APPS & INTERNAL STORAGE ON AN EXTERNAL SDCARD/PC
How so some people can unlock the bootloader and some can't??
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[Q] Factory locked bootloader

Just received the XSP as an upgrade on T-Mobile UK and was disappointed to discover via the service menu that the bootloader is unlockable. Forgive me for asking but does this mean that there is absolutely no chance that at any point in the future I will be able to unlock it? I would like to use custom roms and want to know if I kight as well look for a new phone. This was never a problem on my old Optimus Black.
Thanks in advance.
Wallly said:
Just received the XSP as an upgrade on T-Mobile UK and was disappointed to discover via the service menu that the bootloader is unlockable. Forgive me for asking but does this mean that there is absolutely no chance that at any point in the future I will be able to unlock it? I would like to use custom roms and want to know if I kight as well look for a new phone. This was never a problem on my old Optimus Black.
Thanks in advance.
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Hey fella, I'm same phone, same network and same country.
As I understand it Doomlords software will in V16 provide root for our phone. :victory:
venters said:
Hey fella, I'm same phone, same network and same country.
As I understand it Doomlords software will in V16 provide root for our phone. :victory:
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Praise the (Doom)Lord! Will this allow us to unlock the boot then andflash custom roms?
Just to make it clear bootloader is locked this means no custom kernel which might mean custom ROMs are out ie. Cm,akop,PAC etc
You will be able to root using doomlord exploit and in time will get cwm for locked bootloader so we be able to use modded stock ROMs.
As it stands only root is available for locked bootloader hope this helps
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zolaisugly said:
Just to make it clear bootloader is locked this means no custom kernel which might mean custom ROMs are out ie. Cm,akop,PAC etc
You will be able to root using doomlord exploit and in time will get cwm for locked bootloader so we be able to use modded stock ROMs.
As it stands only root is available for locked bootloader hope this helps
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Great, thanks. This is exactly what I needed to know. Guess I'll have to be patient then..
There is a way to unlock your bootloader. You must get a SIM unlock code, unlock your SP and send an email to Sony with some data like Imei, unlock code, etc. Then a messenger will be sent to pick your phone and lucky, Sony will unlock your phone.
lanluckez said:
There is a way to unlock your bootloader. You must get a SIM unlock code, unlock your SP and send an email to Sony with some data like Imei, unlock code, etc. Then a messenger will be sent to pick your phone and lucky, Sony will unlock your phone.
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this may be true but it only works with bootloader that is allowed, he states in op that his bootloader is unlockable.
service menu shows if you can or not open bootloader, i am on 3 and my bootloader is locked have tried with sony code but get message not available.
zolaisugly said:
this may be true but it only works with bootloader that is allowed, he states in op that his bootloader is unlockable.
service menu shows if you can or not open bootloader, i am on 3 and my bootloader is locked have tried with sony code but get message not available.
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Few days ago sent an email to Sony asking about this issue. Here in Spain there was a global complaint from Xperia U users asking for open the possibility of unlock their bootloaders: not to unlock it but to change the "unlockable" state of the phone. After the debate, Sony says people could send their phones to Sony attaching the respective unlock code with which they'd unlocked (SIM Unlock). Then Sony would send the telephones with the bootloader unlockable.
PS: Maybe he meant "not unlockable" instead "unlockable". If it's unlockable then he doesn't have any problem!
lanluckez said:
Few days ago sent an email to Sony asking about this issue. Here in Spain there was a global complaint from Xperia U users asking for open the possibility of unlock their bootloaders: not to unlock it but to change the "unlockable" state of the phone. After the debate, Sony says people could send their phones to Sony attaching the respective unlock code with which they'd unlocked (SIM Unlock). Then Sony would send the telephones with the bootloader unlockable.
PS: Maybe he meant "not unlockable" instead "unlockable". If it's unlockable then he doesn't have any problem!
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Yes, I meant *not* unlockable. I actually live in Spain so this service from Sony would be very useful, could you tell me how I can do this?
Wallly said:
Yes, I meant *not* unlockable. I actually live in Spain so this service from Sony would be very useful, could you tell me how I can do this?
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Yeah, mate. You have to send a message to Sony saying you've (sim) unlocked your phone and you want to unlock your bootloader. They will send you all the information you need to go through with the process.

a question about bootloader unlock no and firmware update

i ve got my xperia z1 with bootloader unlock yes and after upgrading to 4.3 it says bootloader unlock no ,how is that possible?
dragonmasterx said:
i ve got my xperia z1 with bootloader unlock yes and after upgrading to 4.3 it says bootloader unlock no ,how is that possible?
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This have nothing to do with Unlocking Bootloader. Unlock Butloader now and you will be fine, with 4.3 the camera was fixed.
but on the info about bootloader unlocking it says not to proceed if bootloader unlock is no in service menu i dont wish to end with a brick
dragonmasterx said:
but on the info about bootloader unlocking it says not to proceed if bootloader unlock is no in service menu i dont wish to end with a brick
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Post a picture of the configuration go to Service Info > Configuration.
Bootloader Unlock Allower: Yes or No?
eclyptos said:
Post a picture of the configuration go to Service Info > Configuration.
Bootloader Unlock Allower: Yes or No?
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well prior to updating it was saying bootloader unlock yes and after 4.3 update is saying No
dragonmasterx said:
well prior to updating it was saying bootloader unlock yes and after 4.3 update is saying No
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Have you tried unlocking? When this has happened on Xperia T's the devices were still able to be unlocked even though that had changed. There is absolutely no risk in trying to unlock an unlockable bootloader, it will just fail in the process and will still boot no problem.
It has never been reported a NO had turned to YES, but some Yes had been turned to NO, and they were still bale to be unlocked.
And before anyone gets excited this is by no means something that can be used to unlocked bootloaders that are really locked, it is just a false reading of the boot status.
dragonmasterx said:
well prior to updating it was saying bootloader unlock yes and after 4.3 update is saying No
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Ok, so it's risky. Is not a big problem even if you don't unlock the bootloader but are you sure was saying yes before? this is wired.
You can flash updates and custom roms anyway. Not custom kernels. Sorry.
ok i am going to try to bootloader unlock it and report back
remote command not allowed i am stuck with a phone that i cannot bootloader unlock hope there will be an s-off solution for xperia

[Q] No unlockable bootloader - SOL?

So my device says "Bootloader unlock allowed: No" under the "Rooting Status"
Am I just out of luck?
Yep, you and me both
People will try and say it is cause of the carriers, yet HTC, LG and Samsung phones on the same carriers are not all locked up. It is the one thing I don't like about this phone, well, that and the viewing angles (coming from a HTC one which had incredible speakers and screen)
crixley said:
Yep, you and me both
People will try and say it is cause of the carriers, yet HTC, LG and Samsung phones on the same carriers are not all locked up. It is the one thing I don't like about this phone, well, that and the viewing angles (coming from a HTC one which had incredible speakers and screen)
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Don't know about LG or Samsung but I know some HTC devices have their phones locked also when bought from a carrier. But we manage to workaround that issue by achieving S-Off so I guess yeah you're partially right.
vick1211 said:
So my device says "Bootloader unlock allowed: No" under the "Rooting Status"
Am I just **** out of luck?
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So, it seems your phone should be Z1S, that's why all Z1S owners are not allowed to unlock their BL
So, here's the link to install CWM, and also it roots your phone with locked BL
http://techglen.com/2014/07/03/how-...xperia-z1-z1c-108-firmware-locked-bootloader/
It helped me a lot, although mine is Z1 C6903, but I locked BL and done step by step as it says
Wish you success
SaeedFazlollahzadeh said:
So, it seems your phone should be Z1S, that's why all Z1S owners are not allowed to unlock their BL
So, here's the link to install CWM, and also it roots your phone with locked BL
It helped me a lot, although mine is Z1 C6903, but I locked BL and done step by step as it says
Wish you success
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So that worked, but without an unlocked bootloader what kind of roms can I install?
vick1211 said:
So that worked, but without an unlocked bootloader what kind of roms can I install?
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I don't think if C6916 has any Roms
Because its BL is locked, so you can not flash any Roms
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None at this time maybe after update.
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[Q] Help: Sony Xperia Z1 says cannot unlock bootloader

How can I install a custom ROM without an unlocked bootloader?
My phone says its bootloader cannot be unlocked
Mine too , it's must to be a solution to unlock the bootloader...
No, there is no solution
If it says it cannot be unlocked then it cannot be unlocked
Look in the development section for stock based custom roms that can be installed with a locked bootloader
To my experience it needs to be sim unlocked first in order to be bootloader unlocked. In a Xperia Z it said it couldn't unlock bootloader, i purchased unlock code, got it unlocked and then reflashed stock image. After that the status on "bootloader unlock allowed" was changed to yes.
roobns said:
To my experience it needs to be sim unlocked first in order to be bootloader unlocked. In a Xperia Z it said it couldn't unlock bootloader, i purchased unlock code, got it unlocked and then reflashed stock image. After that the status on "bootloader unlock allowed" was changed to yes.
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Please provide proof of that, because this has never happened before and would be fantastic news
Also, some sim locked phones can have bootloaders unlocked and some sim free phones have bootloaders that cannot be unlocked. SO your logic is wrong.
gregbradley said:
Please provide proof of that, because this has never happened before and would be fantastic news
Also, some sim locked phones can have bootloaders unlocked and some sim free phones have bootloaders that cannot be unlocked. SO your logic is wrong.
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Can't provide proof as 1) the bootloader was already unlocked 2) I don't even have the phone anymore.
I don't know if you find my logic right or wrong it was what happened to MY experience with one phone.
I'm pretty sure devs can give you a technical explanation about why it can or can't happen.
roobns said:
Can't provide proof as 1) the bootloader was already unlocked 2) I don't even have the phone anymore.
I don't know if you find my logic right or wrong it was what happened to MY experience with one phone.
I'm pretty sure devs can give you a technical explanation about why it can or can't happen.
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OK thanks.
I know what the devs will say. They will say it cant happen. This has been talked about ad infinitum across various xperia devices.
Also, if your boot was already unlocked then how did you know the status changed?
Thanks anyway.
gregbradley said:
OK thanks.
I know what the devs will say. They will say it cant happen. This has been talked about ad infinitum across various xperia devices.
Also, if your boot was already unlocked then how did you know the status changed?
Thanks anyway.
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When i got the phone (telcel mexico) it said the bootloader was not allowed to be unlocked.
I purchased an unlock code. Entered the code, unlocked the phone.
I flashed an upgraded FW via FTF
typed *#*#SERVICE#*#* and boom bootloader unlock statys changed to yes
That's how i know the status changed. So basically that's my story. I thought it could work with every device.
@gregbradley maybe the sim unlock method really works to change unlock bootloader status YES..bcs it works for some sony device, and we need to test this on Z1.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896553
There is nothing in that thread that confirms this. Plus the test point method to unofficially unlock the bootloader was stopped by Sony nearly 2 years ago.
But please, delve into this again if you want. But trust me it is a dead end and does not work. If it was easy as sim unlocking and flashing a ftf do you not think that would have been done by now.
Some seriously good devs have been working on this ever since the test point method was closed.
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