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I got rom manager and im trying to do a nan droid back up and when i select back up current rom my phone just restarts? Anyone got any ideas?
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don't think no our phone supports from manager technically its supposed to take you to cwm and you navqgate to backup/restore so I think you have to do that in safe strap or what ever its called
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Oh, i wish i can back up my current state of my phone. Is there a way i can get more onfo on this?
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you are rooted with boot strap installed correct??
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rooted no bootstrap
You have to install either Bootstrap or Safestrap to make nandroid backups with this phone.
which is better safestrap or bootstrap is there a difference?
Bootstrap is simpler but has less features. Personally it's the one I use, as it seems to do the job fine when running stock as I do. If you plan to install a lot of different ROMs, such as the ICS alpha, then you might be better off using Safestrap. It basically creates two system images, one stock and the other a custom ROM. The idea is that if you go into a bootloop with one system, you can switch to the other one instead of being stuck. There are some drawbacks -- I have heard it uses some RAM and slightly degrades performance. Also, Webtop works on one system but not the other.
I have always used bootstrap and never had any issues.
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Bootstrap is simpler but has less features. Personally it's the one I use, as it seems to do the job fine when running stock as I do. If you plan to install a lot of different ROMs, such as the ICS alpha, then you might be better off using Safestrap. It basically creates two system images, one stock and the other a custom ROM. The idea is that if you go into a bootloop with one system, you can switch to the other one instead of being stuck. There are some drawbacks -- I have heard it uses some RAM and slightly degrades performance. Also, Webtop works on one system but not the other.
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I have never used safestrap I am sure it works great. But since I am new to bionic if you bootloop can't you pull battery boot up in android recovery and wipe data and cache? Works everytime on droidx2.
If you want to play with other roms while having a main rom that you use daily, go with safe strap. If your going to stick to one rom, either one will work. You can flash and backup with each one.
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People have been asking in the dev forum alot about how to have two roms on the same device. So i thought I would make a how to.
You do this at your own risk.
Things Needed:
external SD
Get CWM for droid3
SafeStrap for droid3
stable rom to use as nonsafe [put on external SD]
rom to use as safe [put on external SD]
TiBu
1. (make sure you are in nonsafe, if you don't know what this means then dont worry). Do a backup of everything you will want to keep with TiBu.
2. Put the backup on external SD or on dropbox.
3. Uninstall any existing recoveries.
4. Reboot device.
5. Install cwm.
6. Reboot into CWM Recovery and install stable rom.
7. Reboot device.
8. Uninstall CWM and Then install safestrap.
9. Reboot into safestrap recovery.
10. Use volume rockers to go to safe boot menu.
11. Toggle safesystem.
12. select install a zip
13. choose safe rom
14. DONE "]
The nonsafe system will now contain your stable rom. and the safe system will contain your 'experimental' or second rom. I recommend not putting any new or buggy roms as your nonsafe. And this is already considered a dangerous thing to do. And give a huge thanks to hashcode for providing us with safestrap and koush for cwm :]
I currently use MavRom as a nonsafe. Its extremely stable and has not caused any issues at all.
Also if you want to transfer the safe to the nonsafe, use tibu to entirely back up the rom, system and user apps, you can then restore it after flashing it to nonsafe. Make a new backup folder to put it in so you don't mix it up with other backups from different roms
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I can't seem to get this to work with Cm7 as Safe rom and Cm9 as my experimental. I got Steel Droid to boot up and stock but I'm starting to think any rom that isn't blur based (which is really only cyanogen) isn't able to be dual booted. I just get a black screen after the splash screen I've been trying for a week now. If anybody is willing to give it a shot just to see if its me then please let me know of your findings but Mavrom Liberty SD all of those I can boot its cm7.1 or Cm9 that won't...
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Thwe blur based thing may be right. Im unsure, but cm7 to me personally shuld not be used as stable
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can somebody unite thiese 2 topics?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436380
Dri94 said:
Thwe blur based thing may be right. Im unsure, but cm7 to me personally shuld not be used as stable
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Damnit man I would rather not have to run cm7 as my stable rom seeing how I have no front facing camera support but the other features that the blur based roms lack just make it impossible to use as a daily driver. I need control over which buttons are in the notification widget and a few of the other features cm provides and none of the blurless roms give me that unfortunately... I'm determined to get this to work if its the last thing I do lol
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Whats not working about it ?
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Whats not working about it ?
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I can't get cm7 to boot up past the safestrap splash screen.... I start out with bootstrap boot cm7 up and then remove bootstrap and install safestrap thus making cm7 my non safe or main rom but upon rebooting the phone I just get the black screen after the splash screen... I can get into safestrap and switch to safe mode and run whatever rom I last had there or flash any nandroids I had in non safe mode but whatever rom I had on prior to installing safestrap (cm7 or cm9) they won't actually reboot. I thought cm9 would work which would really be a hastle keeping that as my non safe rom and cm7 as my main one on the safe side thus leaving me to redo the entire process everytime a new cm9 is released but cm9 wouldn't boot up past the initializing apps screen that first pops up... It counts up to all the apps I have then just stays stuck on starting applications or whatever it says, cm7 doesn't even boot up beyond the splash screen...
Edit: And I know that I'm doing it right because I have got Steel Droid to dual boot before I just can't understand y blurfree roms can't boot in non safe mode
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ill test it when i get home.
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ill test it when i get home.
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Appreciate it *fingers crossed*
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Im sorry. I got behind on some work, when i catch up ill get back to you.
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Dri94 said:
Im sorry. I got behind on some work, when i catch up ill get back to you.
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No pressure man I do appreciate the response tho lol
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Ill do it tonight when i install the new ics :]
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Dri94 said:
Ill do it tonight when i install the new ics :]
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I was gonna do the same lol hilarious
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Lol cool :] lets see if we can both get it
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Ok im gonna give this another shot tonight..... haven't had the time or patience especially since I think its gonna fail again but ill update with my progress.... gonna try cm7 as the non safe and aokp as the safe one...
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Ok, time to feel like a total noob.
So, my idea was to use safestrap to install aokp on the safe partition and leave my stock (+root) rom on the unsafe one.
I had bootstrap installed, just to back up my stuff and whatnot, so, I uninstalled it, installed safestrap, put all the stuff needed for AOKP ( rom, gsm patch and gapps ) and rebooted the phone. I enabled the safe system, and flashed rom, patch and gapps. then I rebooted, and I got into a loop where I would see the motorola logo ( the still one, which says "dual core technology" or something like that), then I got the safestrap splashscreen and if I pressed search, or left the phone idle so it would boot on it's own, it would get me to the motorola logo again, and repeat the loop.
I had to go back to the unsafe system and luckily it's all still there, but, since that point I tried every combination that I could think off, with wipes and I've flashed even just the rom, between wipes, and still, nothing.
I'm thinking that safestrap is not being able to write on the partition, or something like that, but I don't know how to solve it.
Any Ideas?
EDIT: I checked with a root explorer on /preinstall ( which I understand is the /system folder for the safe system ) and all the data seems to be there, but it's just not booting. Which makes me even more confused
After looking into trying a custom rom for my rooted thrill I decided to try out CyanogenMod 7.2.0 just to test the waters because it was my first time flashing a rom on my thrill. I had some issues but was finally able to flash CyanogenMod rom on my thrill. I liked it a lot and it seemed to be working fine but it was plugged into the charger cause it was late at night. The next morning I unplugged it and went to work... Normally my stock thrill will last me my whole shift which is 8 hours plus travel time. By the time I get off of work my phone still in the green. Anyway by around first brake I noticed the battery was half gone this was in only three in a half hours by 4 hours it was in the red pretty much dead... Any ideas or suggestions? Btw I am back to stock gb but still was to try a custom rom and I really liked CyanogenMod 7.2.0
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Try using the latest nightly. It seemed a lot better with battery drain. Also once you've flashed the nightly, charge to 100%, go to recovery and under advanced menu, wipe battery stats. Let the phone run till it dies and see if that helps.
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I'm kinda afraid to retry and flash another rom on my phone...The first time I did it and tried to recover my stock rom I backed up it said it wasn't there or it did not exist. So I had to reinstall the original att gb rom and lost everything. Do I have to make a new backup of my rom every time I flash?
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No, but you will want to store it on your external SD card or transfer your stock backup to the PC to be safe. When you wipe before flashing you may wipe the area your backups are contained. Once you have them in a safe place you can flash without worry. If anything happens you can mount your SD card through recovery and transfer a backup then restore it. Get comfortable with making backups before flashing and what to do when a problem does occur. Panic can lead to bad mistakes.
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No, but you will want to store it on your external SD card or transfer your stock backup to the PC to be safe. When you wipe before flashing you may wipe the area your backups are contained. Once you have them in a safe place you can flash without worry. If anything happens you can mount your SD card through recovery and transfer a backup then restore it. Get comfortable with making backups before flashing and what to do when a problem does occur. Panic can lead to bad mistakes.
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Yeah that's exactly what I did and now I am flashing at a more comfortable level. And I did find my original backup and was able to flash my thrill back to where I had it. For some reason it won't show up in recovery mode, the only way I was able to flash it was through cwm. Now I'm running promethius Project Rom v1.5 with no idea kernel. I have flashed other kernels also. I want to flash another rom but hate setting everything up again lol like home screens, launchers, widgets, and reinstalling all my apps I have on my sd card.
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Check out titanium backup and ROM toolbox Pro (its worth paying for). Those two apps will get your old apps restored and restore the data (titanium backup) and give you all the tools you may need to tweak your ROM and customise it. ROM toolbox has root browser, ROM manager, CPU control, scripter and tons of others in one app. With those two apps you can have everything back how it was (besides home screens, which some launchers do allow you to make a backup) and anything else you need to get it running how you like.
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ima.monstaaa said:
Check out titanium backup and ROM toolbox Pro (its worth paying for). Those two apps will get your old apps restored and restore the data (titanium backup) and give you all the tools you may need to tweak your ROM and customise it. ROM toolbox has root browser, ROM manager, CPU control, scripter and tons of others in one app. With those two apps you can have everything back how it was (besides home screens, which some launchers do allow you to make a backup) and anything else you need to get it running how you like.
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I have titanium backup pro and the launcher I like using does have a backup feature. Although I think I might stick with promethius because it seems like it has the least issues.
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I preferred Prometheus over all the other ROMs. Its fast, stable and you get to keep your 3D features.
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I don't know how to do it, it doesn't give me the option... I have it backed up so I could restore it, I just need it out of my way... Any help.
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king..kranium said:
I don't know how to do it, it doesn't give me the option... I have it backed up so I could restore it, I just need it out of my way... Any help.
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Hi,
Do you mean that you want to delete the actual Stock ROM slot? I'm guessing that you're using Safestrap 3.x. If so, I don't think that you can delete it. In fact, I beleive that your Custom ROM Slots actually run off of the Stock one, so it might not be a good idea. Can I ask why you want to do it?
If you just want to wipe the system from the Stock slot, you can using the Wipe menu just like with any other slot, but be careful! Even though you have it backed up, the Stock slot is kind of finnicky from what I've experienced. I recently did an experiment where I flashed something over it. I had it backed up and everything, and when the experiment failed, I tried to restore it to how it was. I wiped the slot and restored from my backup, but the phone wouldn't boot.
Strangely, it worked when I restored it to a custom slot, but I had to get a special backup file from someone here on the forums to get my Stock Slot to work again. Just a word of caution. Hope that helps.
Airman1947 said:
Hi,
Do you mean that you want to delete the actual Stock ROM slot? I'm guessing that you're using Safestrap 3.x. If so, I don't think that you can delete it. In fact, I beleive that your Custom ROM Slots actually run off of the Stock one, so it might not be a good idea. Can I ask why you want to do it?
If you just want to wipe the system from the Stock slot, you can using the Wipe menu just like with any other slot, but be careful! Even though you have it backed up, the Stock slot is kind of finnicky from what I've experienced. I recently did an experiment where I flashed something over it. I had it backed up and everything, and when the experiment failed, I tried to restore it to how it was. I wiped the slot and restored from my backup, but the phone wouldn't boot.
Strangely, it worked when I restored it to a custom slot, but I had to get a special backup file from someone here on the forums to get my Stock Slot to work again. Just a word of caution. Hope that helps.
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Blur is dumb, I want rid of it.... thanks for the answer, I just want to free up the space its taking up.
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king..kranium said:
Blur is dumb, I want rid of it.... thanks for the answer, I just want to free up the space its taking up.
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Gotcha. You're welcome. Sorry I can't be more help.
Its okay man, I guess I'll just get a bigger sd card...
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So in my infinite wisdom I deleted com.android.providers.media using titanium backup. I thought I had backed the file up but apparently I didn't. Either that or it didn't actually back the file up. Either way elements of my phone are now totally burned as you would imagine. No gallery, no music in my music player, and no ringtones. So my question is even if I do a factory reset will that help? Yes this was the stock ROM yes I tried installing a stock image on top of the ROM but the installation froze and I had to reboot and restore my nan droid. No I didn't have a nandroid of before I started dicking around. And finally yes I am a complete idiot. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Actually if some one would just be willing to use titanium backup to backup that file then post it here I could probably just restore it? Hope some one can help
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Odexed\deodexed....ICS\JB...Stock\Custom....Bell\ATT\Other...not much to go on...either way, go to the Batakang FTP and download which rom you need and you'll always have a backup copy of all the files needed (the bottom two). If your not AT&T, then you can get deodexed versions on my Goo.im page or odexed versions directly from the fastboot.
Sweet thanks man. So would u say that I should safely be able to install over the stock ROM? Or should I wipe then install? Also since these are stock I can install them to ROM slot stock right?
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Odexed\deodexed....ICS\JB...Stock\Custom....Bell\ATT\Other...not much to go on...either way, go to the Batakang FTP and download which rom you need and you'll always have a backup copy of all the files needed (the bottom two). If your not AT&T, then you can get deodexed versions on my Goo.im page or odexed versions directly from the fastboot.
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Hey, so I've been doing a lot of research on safe strap and apparently you cannot overwrite the stock ROM slot which would be why I couldn't flash anything to it. So what I did was create a new slot (slot 1) with the stock image. I installed safestrap to that new ROM. My question now would be, If I create a nandroid of that ROM and restore it to the stock slot will that work? Or will it bork due to not having safestrap recovery installed to the system partition anymore and there for stop it from booting along with killing safestrap? Hoping some one can chime in on this one as I'm quite anxious to get back to normal phone use. at least for now all my sounds are back but having a 1 gig system partition is a major bummer.
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Hey, so I've been doing a lot of research on safe strap and apparently you cannot overwrite the stock ROM slot which would be why I couldn't flash anything to it. So what I did was create a new slot (slot 1) with the stock image. I installed safestrap to that new ROM. My question now would be, If I create a nandroid of that ROM and restore it to the stock slot will that work? Or will it bork due to not having safestrap recovery installed to the system partition anymore and there for stop it from booting along with killing safestrap? Hoping some one can chime in on this one as I'm quite anxious to get back to normal phone use. at least for now all my sounds are back but having a 1 gig system partition is a major bummer.
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That's where I'm at. On my stock rom, /system/etc/safestrap was added, logwrapper was modified to execute 2nd-init. AFAIK, that's all that was added. I'm so used to the Defy bootstrap method that I'm having a hard time getting used to SS - Defy BS was clearly laid out on what was executed and when that was done -- I've even looked at the SS source and its scripts and still can figure out what's the first script called by the 2nd-init loader....makes me feel super noob .
Well supposedly hash code said that after every restore and flash to the safe slot (stock) safe strap will reinstall itself on /system so if that's the case restoring any backup to that safe slot should be OK. But if that were the case no one would be able to brick. And I've seen people brick with and lose safestrap, and have to use RSD. Which is the road I don't want to have to go down. Really wish I had a definite answer because it seems like it should work but I don't want to do it unless some one who knows more about this than me confirms it.
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