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I'm hoping that someone here can give me some advice on getting temporary high speed internet access in Spain. I've never been to Europe, so I'm not sure how it works over there.
I am going to be staying in an apartment in Torredembarra, Spain for about 2 months. I have been told that there is currently no internet connectivity in the apartment unit and no guarantee that free wifi access is available within range. I will be living and working from there, and my livelihood depends upon high-speed internet access, so I need to figure this out before I go.
Would it be better to find a pay-as-you-go cell plan that includes 3G data, or to look into having DSL/Cable/etc installed at the apartment for 2 months? Here is some additional info that I'm factoring in:
I will need to make and receive phone calls from/to the states while there, as well as having a local cell phone. I'm thinking about using Skype In/Out for calls to the states. I'm even considering getting TMobile HotSpot @ Home service to make calls from any wifi hotspot. But regardless, I will be getting a local pay-as-you-go cell plan. Any other ideas?
My notebook has bluetooth, wifi, and gprs/edge built in (sony viao), but no 3G. Would it be better to get a 3G card for it, or connect via bluetooth to a 3G mobile phone? Can I make calls at the same time as data is being used?
I'm not interested in spending all day at a cafe or bar with free wifi. I need to be able to work from the apartment, or I just won't be very productive.
If it is available, I hope to purchase an unlocked HTC Kaiser while over there. If that isn't available, then any suggestions on what to get?
I need to be able to use SSH from where ever I am to manage servers remotely. So a windows mobile device with data is preferred.
Because of all this, I'm thinking that I should not worry about the DSL/cable thing and just get a 3G cell phone/plan. Since I need a phone anyway, why get a phone and land service? Or would it be cheaper to get a cheap cell plan and land service? Any feedback on this?
If I was to get a mobile data plan, can I get 3G data plans on a pay-as-you-go basis, or do you have to sign up for a contract?
What mobile phone provider would be best for this situation? What handset?
Can I get DSL/cable installed in a residence for only a couple months? How long does it take to get installed once ordered? How much does it cost per month?
What kind of costs would be involved, assuming I am using a fair amount of data? I'm prepared to spend some money on this, but of course I'd rather be as economical as possible while still having a good solution.
Please offer your advice! If you know of another forum that would be more appropriate for this type of question, please let me know. I couldn't figure out where to post this.
Thanks!
In case it helps, I have a USA T-Mobile MDA (Wizard) with gprs/edge support but no 3G support.
Hi there,
I've had a quick look around the forums and see posts which are in other countries - so I wanted to ask in a new thread.
I'm in the UK and considering getting a TyTN2 (currently on an Xda Orbit).
I have some questions which im having a little trouble in finding definitive answers to -
1. Is it possible to use the TyTN2 as a 'modem'? i.e connect to the Internet at high speed and 'relay' the information to my laptop? if so, would that mean connecting the laptop and the TyTN2 via a cable? wifi? bluetooth?
2. If the above can be done wirelessly, is it then possible to share on 2 laptops? (I have a main Dell XPS M1710 and a XPS M1330 for more portable needs)
3. I'm currently with O2 for my voice calls. I can get another providers service and was looking at the 3 network for it's nice pricing, however it looks like I have to connect using their specific modem. Is it possible to connect to 3's network using the TyTN2?
4. The other operators Vodafone, Orange T mobile etc - would it be a case of sgning up to an airtime deal and popping the SIM card into the TyTN2, syncing to my laptop and away I go ?
I live around the West London, Heathrow area and am here 99% of my time - I understand full speed HSDPA won't be available all the time when travelling away and could be at much reduced speeds etc - at that point, what is 'surfing' on the screen like on the TyTN2? I find browsing on the Orbit using wifi a bit of a strain on that small screen, any better on the TyTN2? I 'doubt' it really and thats why Iwant to use my laptops screen(s)
Apologies if this is covered in other posts, I could only find sporadic info and from other countries etc
Any ideas and responses well appreciated !
cheers, Dennis Cooper!
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1. Is it possible to use the TyTN2 as a 'modem'? i.e connect to the Internet at high speed and 'relay' the information to my laptop? if so, would that mean connecting the laptop and the TyTN2 via a cable? wifi? bluetooth?
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You can use TyTN II as modem, but it's not exactly a *modem* - it uses network sharing application instead. Basically the idea is that TyTN becomes something like 'access point', which acts as a gateway to the internet for your computer. Connectivity options are USB cable and Bluetooth. I use both of them without much hassle, but I don't know how to do it in Windows world (I'm a Linux-boy
2. If the above can be done wirelessly, is it then possible to share on 2 laptops? (I have a main Dell XPS M1710 and a XPS M1330 for more portable needs)
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I don't think so. Unless you'll manage to set up whole thing like that:
TyTN II --> internet sharing --> XPS M1710 --> internet sharing --> XPS M1330
But I never tried such configuration.
3. I'm currently with O2 for my voice calls. I can get another providers service and was looking at the 3 network for it's nice pricing, however it looks like I have to connect using their specific modem. Is it possible to connect to 3's network using the TyTN2?
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Yes, it is possible. They have recently introduced their Mobile Broadband offer (£10 / 1GB / month) into pay as you go, so you don't have to buy separate modem. Just get their payg SIM card, put it into Kaiser, activate Mobile Broadband add-on, get connection settings from their website, and use Internet Sharing app, as mentioned above. Should work.
4. The other operators Vodafone, Orange T mobile etc - would it be a case of sgning up to an airtime deal and popping the SIM card into the TyTN2, syncing to my laptop and away I go ?
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I only know how it works for T-Mobile. They have £1 per day internet access offer on pay as you go. However, there are some catches:
1) T&C don't allow to use it modems for computers (such as Kaiser and your laptops), BUT practically it works without any problems.
2) There is 40 MB daily limit, which is not 'fixed' - meaning that if you exceed it, you will be still able to use the service - but T-Mobile will have an eye on you, and will have right to cancel your card straight away if you'll keep exceeding it too often.
3) Their payg SIM cards are NOT allowed to use HSDPA service, meaning mere 384 kbps, without any chance to upgrade it - even if you are within HSDPA coverage.
So, basically - if you're light user, T-Mobile pay as you go option should be OK for you, but when you plan to use internet on the go more often - Three's Mobile Broadband should be a better deal for you.
Of course, you also have option to sign up for contract, for example T-Mobile's Flext + web'n'walk, which would give you both voice minutes, as well as internet access on the go, but it's up to you.
I live around the West London, Heathrow area and am here 99% of my time
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Ha! Just like me (TW14)
- I understand full speed HSDPA won't be available all the time when travelling away and could be at much reduced speeds etc - at that point, what is 'surfing' on the screen like on the TyTN2? I find browsing on the Orbit using wifi a bit of a strain on that small screen, any better on the TyTN2? I 'doubt' it really and thats why Iwant to use my laptops screen(s)
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I'm not sure what is HSDPA coverage by O2, but I'm on T-Mobile, and they basically have HSDPA deployed all around London already, with some sites upgraded to 3.6 Mbps speed.
When it comes to surfing on the screen, I recommend using Opera Mini 4. It's waaay better tha Pocket IE, and it's also much faster. It gives really great browsing experience in your pocket!
eva_d,
I am considering the tytn ii with the Flext 25 + web'n'walk from t-mobile, with it being 1gb a month unlimited internet access and my phone hsdpa compatible, does this price plan allow me to use hsdpa in london where i work rather than GPRS in a 3G covereage area?
thanks... sorry dennis to hijack your thread...
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I am considering the tytn ii with the Flext 25 + web'n'walk from t-mobile, with it being 1gb a month unlimited internet access and my phone hsdpa compatible, does this price plan allow me to use hsdpa in london where i work rather than GPRS in a 3G covereage area?
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Yes, it allows HSDPA use.
I would check with t-mobile about the hsdpa theres a few posts about saying that t-mobile pulled hsdpa from the basic web and walk after mid october last year and made it availble to web and walk plus and the next higher tarrif. im on the £35 flext and web and walk basic and get hsdpa but i signed up in april last year. basically double check with t-mobile that you will get hsdpa on the w+w basic before you take out the contract.
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I would check with t-mobile about the hsdpa theres a few posts about saying that t-mobile pulled hsdpa from the basic web and walk after mid october last year and made it availble to web and walk plus and the next higher tarrif. im on the £35 flext and web and walk basic and get hsdpa but i signed up in april last year. basically double check with t-mobile that you will get hsdpa on the w+w basic before you take out the contract.
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This is true, and was told the same by the cust service rep on the phone. However i added the basic £7.50 W&W, and after enabling HSDPA in Kaisertweak, am getting recieving it anyway!
i just sent a message to tmobile and one of their customer represensatives called me up and say if i'm in a 3g area it will be running on HSDPA even on the flext 25 and web and walk.
however they say to take note on the 1gb cap per month data fair usage policy.
if that's the case, i think i'd sign on for the contract within the next few days together with the vario III
however i have an offer for an iphone for 300 quid contract free.... so i am abit of a fix of which one to go for...
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This is true, and was told the same by the cust service rep on the phone. However i added the basic £7.50 W&W, and after enabling HSDPA in Kaisertweak, am getting recieving it anyway!
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I also have basic WnW package (£7.50/month), and I do get HSDPA, but I've started my contract in 2006. However, explanation for not giving HSDPA access in basic WnW seems to be fair and reasonable (although not necessarily loved by users) - as that basic package is designed to give internet connectivity directly from mobile phone, which would not be used as modem for computers. In such case, 384kbps (non-HSDPA) speed seems reasonable for use in phone only. When it comes to use it from computer, then it's low - but then you also need to get WnW Plus or Max packages...
I am going to upgrade do WnW Plus pretty soon, anyway. It's only £5 more per month, but allows legally use my Kaiser as modem, and also gives me full T-Mobile's WiFi hotspots access across UK.
Hello folks.
Twice recently I've looked at my Vario III and noticed it displaying the H for HSDPA at the top, rather than 3G.
Clicking on to open the connectivity bubble reveals that yes, I am indeed connected to "T-Mobile Internet (HSDPA)".
The only thing is, I'm on their Web 'n' walk data plan, not the Web 'n' walk plus which includes HSDPA.
On both occasions the H has reverted back to 3G after a few minutes.
Does anyone know if T-Mobile are tinkering with their service, perhaps planning to include the faster data to all users, not just the "plus" people?
Or was my phone itself just teasing me and displaying H when it was really regular old 3G?
Any answers welcome.
HSDPA
I too have the same phone on T-Mobile and also use the standard web 'n' walk and I often use HSDPA to connect... Have also connected to the internet with my laptop and get speeds up to around 1.6MB/s.
I think the idea with the web 'n' walk plus and HSDPA is that you are ALLOWED to use it as a computer internet connection and get those higher speeds but with the standard one you get those speeds but only on your mobile.
Phil
Cheers Phil.
I wonder why I've only been connected to it twice though.
Perhaps I've only noticed it twice!
*** UPDATE ***
I woke up this morning, my woman done left me......
ooops, sorry, force of habit.
I woke up this morning and I noticed that I was connected to HSDPA again.
This time the connection remained constant and I still have it now.
Perhaps I can expect it all the time now.
HSPDA is being built through as the new standard of mobile networks all over the world (where currently supported of course) orange UK have been doing this for the past couple of months, so yes I would imagine T-Mobile are upgrading the signal across the network
I'm on Flext with web n walk, i called T-mobile to have HSDPA enabled, generally its pretty stable, but it's not totally uncommon for it to drop back to 3G randomly. I'm not surprised, as im sure the coverage isn't yet 'finished'
i had to upgrade to get it in feb, never came up i upgraded and boom it was there, if everyone is getting it i may just downgrade n save myself £5
It certainly seems to be the case, meandu.
If there are no other advantages to the 'plus' service you should downgrade back to the regular.
No point paying an extra blue one for feck all.
Thanks to everyone that replied.
As far as I am aware, you don't have even have to have web 'n' walk to get the HSDPA speeds - so long as it is enabled then you can use (obviously you will pay more if not on w 'n' w!!). You certainly don't need 'plus' to get it. The reason it fluctuates is that it only shows the 'H' if firstly, you are in an HSDPA area and secondly, it is actually downloading something. The rest of the time it will just show 3G or G, depending on where you are.
I have been with T-Mobile Uk for about six months on their standard W+W package. Until two weeks ago I was only able to get 3G but since then I too have been on HSDPA. They must have changed their policy. If only they'd let windows live work...
The reason you are seeing "H" instead of "3G" is because T-Mobile are now defaulting 3G services onto HSDPA.
The change over happened in Plymouth about 2 weeks ago, I thought it was a blip because sometimes the icon got stuck but soon found out that HSDPA was being enforce.
This is all to do with T-Mob and 3 merging their 3G networks over the course of the year allowing most of us to be able to access the new 7.2Mb Turbo network and later next year the 14Mb Uber Turbo network
Oh and windows live does work for me on default web and walk lol
Thanks for the information.
Frustratingly for me windows live will not work via GPRS, 3G or HSDPA. Synchronisation just takes a while then fails. My understanding was that this was due to T-Mobile port blocking on W+W basic, am I misinformed? I am using Dutty’s 6.1 with version 10.6.34.800, wifi connects with no problem but it means I need to use PIE to access the web based one when out and about. I have encountered the same problems with other ROMs and Windows Live versions.
Is this anyone else’s experience?
I'm on WnW 'basic' and dont have that problem, im pretty sure they dont block it... although i do have random problems connecting to MSN sometimes.. but im sure thats just a signal/software issue.
We had this issue with our work mobiles when using Live and other chat progs, but only with t-mobile. They'll deny it point blank if you call the helpdesk, although that's probably more down to them not knowing anything about port blocking I would think. No issue with O2 or Orange and the chat progs work fine when cradled or via wireless. Incidentally, it's not permanent either, they'll occasionally work for a day or two. I wonder if some sort of usage monitoring is taking place
I am also on T-Mobile UK with a Vario III.
Joined them in Oct 07 on Flext 30 with Web N Walk. I've had HSDPA appearing when downloading since day one - when not downloading it goes to 3G or G if out of 3G coverage.
I am also able to use Windows Live with no problems. I have attached the version I use currently for anyone having an issue with theirs.
Cheers
Zippyioa
See below for T&C's for W&W
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Flext + web'n'walk plans
Subject to connection to Flext or U-Fix + web 'n' walk. Minimum term contract and credit check apply. Subject to coverage. Compatible handset required. Roaming charges apply. Not applicable to connection via CSD. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers a 1GB (of data both sent and received in the UK) per month fair use policy applies. If you exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 1GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 1GB per month for a third time , we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging. Roaming charges apply.
Flext + web'n'walk Plus plans
Subject to connection to Flext + web 'n' walk Plus. Minimum term contract and credit check apply. Compatible laptop and handset required. Not applicable to connection via CSD. Subject to coverage. To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 3GB (of data sent and received in the UK) per month applies. If you exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 3GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 3GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. We do not permit use of this service for internet phone calls. Roaming charges apply.
Flext + web'n'walk Max plan
Subject to connection to selected Flext + web'n'walk Max price plans. Minimum term contract and credit check applies. Compatible laptop and handset required. Not applicable to connection via CSD. Subject to coverage. *To ensure a high quality of service for all our customers, a fair use policy of 10GB (of UK data both sent and received) per month applies. If you exceed 10GB per month, we may tell you to reduce your future use. If you again exceed 10GB per month, we may tell you that we are going to apply network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed for 14 days. If you exceed 10GB per month for a third time, we may tell you that we are going to apply further network protection controls, resulting in a reduced network speed until you upgrade your price plan to include a larger data allowance. Roaming charges apply.
Hi ray.andy
Thanks for the legal on this one
I have always known that the T&Cs state you can't use instant messenging on WNW standard. Strangely I and many other customers have always used Windows Live on the standard WNW tariff without issues.
Cheers
Zippyioa
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Hi ray.andy
Thanks for the legal on this one
I have always known that the T&Cs state you can't use instant messenging on WNW standard. Strangely I and many other customers have always used Windows Live on the standard WNW tariff without issues.
Cheers
Zippyioa
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I would say that as long as you don't go over the usage limit as specified in each tariff then you can use it for anything that you want.
T-Mobile have no way to see what programs/applications are using Data. This is just purely to make customers pay more for the tariffs as they think they are getting a better deal.
I had W&W for £7.50 per month - I used it for internet through my laptop & skype for over a year without any letters/warnings from T-Mobile.
I still think that HSDPA from T-Mobile is fast and well worth the money compared to Orange.
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Ray.Andy: are you sure about that? I'm on T-Mo UK as well, and I remember putting win live on before and it said that the service is blocked. However, I still can use Skype!
I *think* they can monitor ports like on PCs, and stop traffic on certain well-known ports, which then in turn block services.
Personally, I only use IM over wifi with my Tytn II, so it's all far game!
Thanks zippyioa for cab.
Have installed and testing. Seems to perform initial sync with no problems, this was my experience with the other versions also, but then is very tempremental after that. Sync sometimes but not others. I wonder if there is some usage/time limits on this from t-mobile. Those of you with no problems what are your settings for windows live? (ie sync frequency or manual, how often do you sync, does it always succeed, do you sync through windows live or send/receive in messages)
Cheers
Hey guys,
I was wondering, which one of the different US providers would you recommend to use with an imported unlocked diamond2?
I'm currently with AT&T, and I'm having a lot of issues to connect to MediaNet... For some unknown reason, the phone looses its connection:
- every single time after either a reboot or using wifi
- on time to time, randomly without any specific reason
My main concern being: it's a pain to get it back! It takes several reboot and retry to re-setup the data connection.
I was wondering if some of you have actually experience better result with other provider or even with AT&T... (note: i m on a pay-as-you-go plan for phone and data)
Thanks,
Kandjar
I, too, am using Diamond2 with ATT and I'm ok with it. Granted, I've given up trying to use MediaNet on this phone but not really missing it.
I'm on T-mobile with the $5.99 unlimited data (T-Mobile Web). It's now $9.99 Web2Go if you are starting a new contract with limited data. Everything is working fine and the other day I got my email working on the diamond2 through the $5.99 plan.
No connection problems at all.
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
Wow, ok, once my pay-as-you-go expired, I'll definitively check T-Mobile!
AT&T data plan is slow and not very stable for me...
The main reason I need it is: mails!
I got so addicted to the 'read mail everywhere' plan, it's scary... When it doesn't work, it's bugging the heck out of me
I found in the 'phone setting' that it's possible to change the baseband; so instead of having them set to 'auto', I'm trying to force them to be:
'gsm' and '1900+850' to see if there is any improvements.
In any case T-Mobile does sound a lot cheaper...
I m currently paying $100 for 400 minutes (good for a year) and $20/month for 100MB... That's about $30/months.
Thanks for the replies
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Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
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Edge on T-mo has really good speeds here in CO. That's why I don't mind not having 3G. Soon enough manufacturers will be making quadband 3g handsets. I hope.
Any who kandjar if you need help with the data settings if and when you switch to T-mo just post up. If you search google for T-mobile wireless configurator you can get the settings by selecting any WinMo phone in the list ut you have to change some things.
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Disregard that last part about the configurator. The D2 finds the settings automagically for you. But you still have to change 1 or 2 things so it'll work.
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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Youtube worked on my Diamond2 with ATT. I don't have a data package with ATT, but I have wifi in my complex and I can watch Youtube on the Wifi.
As well as sending/receiving emails.
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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Yes it works fine on T-mobile edge. Maybe AT&T edge is a bit slow? IDK? This is on T-zones might I add. Not T-mobiles full web service. Who needs that with opera available?
I was hoping to be able to swap the sim card from my phone to the tablet on the fly. In my experience though, and talking to customer service, when the sim card is inserted, the account is detected and accessed with no issue, and 4g posts on the notification bar, but no internet access is available and browser routes you to t-mobile's site to add a prepaid plan.
Anyone have any suggestions on ways around it?
I doubt it, but I was hoping someone was more resourceful than me.
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I was hoping to be able to swap the sim card from my phone to the tablet on the fly. In my experience though, and talking to customer service, when the sim card is inserted, the account is detected and accessed with no issue, and 4g posts on the notification bar, but no internet access is available and browser routes you to t-mobile's site to add a prepaid plan.
Anyone have any suggestions on ways around it?
I doubt it, but I was hoping someone was more resourceful than me.
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I finally activated mine after two months, last night. They have a $25 plan (no contract) for 200 Mb per month, but after that you get edge speeds instead of 3G. I only wanted it for email & etc. outside the house. I do WiFi in the house. So I don't need that much bandwidth. And if I don't like it or change my mind, I can simply cancel it (or increase it). It does seem to have a bit better battery life on 4G than with WiFi. But this is my first day, so time will tell.