I'm so close to buying this, the one thing that's stopping me is; from reading/watching reviews, the only complaint seems to be that the Camera just isn't as good as the One camera.
How have you found the camera?
Is it any good in low light?
Is it even better than the original Butterfly camera?
Check the forum themes and apps. There is a post there comparing Butterfly S against the One camera.
From HTC Butterfly S
If anything the camera on the Butterfly S is a lot better. It's the same camera but has more software tweaks.
There's mixed reviews on everything GSMArena and Hardware Zone both said there was some softness in the corners of the Butterfly S. On the other hand eprice found the Butterfly S to be a bit sharper than the One. OIS may benefit in low light but in some lenses it comes at the compromise of image quality since the lens element is moving around and may cause distortion. There may still need to be some software updates HTC can do to increase sharpness as they did with the One (which caused a discrepancy between reviews).
I am a bit disappointed there's no OIS but there is an anti-shake mode that seems to work okay. I am not sure what it does, I think it just increases the ISO and shutterspeed for a sharper image or maybe it takes multiple images and combines them. Video is great (since the Butterfly HTC has greatly improved, a lot less frame skip) but they should bring back electronic video stabilization of the One X (I don't think the Butterfly S has it).
The camera is fine but keep the lens clean. I have a lens film protector but unfortunately it has a bubble causing softness in the corner, gonna reapply it later but I do not know where you can buy these (got applied by HTC store employee) :S
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If anything the camera on the Butterfly S is a lot better. It's the same camera but has more software tweaks.
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Have you made any custom settings to improve the image quality of the camera?
has nobody experienced the purple tint issue on the butterfly S?
it's quite severe on mine
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has nobody experienced the purple tint issue on the butterfly S?
it's quite severe on mine
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Didn't noticed such issue. htc one also had this problem, but it was solved with the recent update for one with andoid 4.3. everything depends on the environment.
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Didn't noticed such issue. htc one also had this problem, but it was solved with the recent update for one with andoid 4.3. everything depends on the environment.
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yer i'm aware of this but so far, nothing for the butterfly s. I guess it's not widespread
I have a purple tint in my butterfly s. Its exactly as my old htc one. Disappointing.
I also have purple tint on the camera at low light environment. If you are going to buy one, don't forget to check this out. Just use your plan to cover the lens and see if you see dark color or not.
Btw, this purple camera tint is software or hardware issue? Anyone have any idea?
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Its hardware .there is IC near the camera sensor .overheat the IC effect on the sensor.
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I have a purple tint in my butterfly s. Its exactly as my old htc one. Disappointing.
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i upgraded from a perfectly fine HTC One, to a Butterfly S with the tint problem
I love the camera it's so much better than my one
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i also have purple tint on the camera at low light environment , maybe because change the iso ,
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I just purchased the HTC one for sprint a few days ago.
I have been taking mostly indoor vidoes/pictures under normal lighting conditions.
And all the pics are awful. They are blurry , not focused properly and the photo just looks horrible - like one taken from a bad camera phone.
I have tried messing with the settings...tried HDR mode...zoe mode. Still...pictures come out very grainy or just plain out of focus.
Is this a defect or what? Im hearing all these great things about the camera , but the pics don't come close to what my 4 year old HTC Evo takes.
Should I try to exchange it out for another at sprint store ? anyone else having this issue?
Is the lens dirty or covered by anything? Try tapping the screen to focus. Do you have a sample to show us?
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I just purchased the HTC one for sprint a few days ago.
I have been taking mostly indoor vidoes/pictures under normal lighting conditions.
And all the pics are awful. They are blurry , not focused properly and the photo just looks horrible - like one taken from a bad camera phone.
I have tried messing with the settings...tried HDR mode...zoe mode. Still...pictures come out very grainy or just plain out of focus.
Is this a defect or what? Im hearing all these great things about the camera , but the pics don't come close to what my 4 year old HTC Evo takes.
Should I try to exchange it out for another at sprint store ? anyone else having this issue?
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The photos are grainy because of the ultra pixel system that they used in this camera. It is sort of a trade off really....in order to get those nice low light shots they had to devise a camera with larger light sensitive cells. It is like in the old film days when you used 1600 speed film for low light conditions but ended up with pictures that were super grainy. Same concept but now in digital form.
I know what the OP is talking about, this is a different issue than just having grainy pictures. Mine cannot seem to focus on anything more than 10 ft away. I'm attaching an example from a graduation last night. The focus was so bad that I will not using any of these pictures for anything.
And yes I tapped on the screen multiple times to get it to focus, this is what came out. I can replicate this basically anytime when taking pictures of anything kind of far away. It freaking sucks.
This is not due to not focusing or pics being slightly grainy
Im saying the pics are awful.. Way out of focus and look distorted, phone is only 3 days old so it's not a dirty lens
Taking this back to sprint today... Will update you guys on what they do for me..
I've had time where the front camera is blurry from smudges on the lens taking it out of my pocket. Wiping off the lens helps. It happens pretty frequently actually.
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Sounds like bad hardware to me, I would have taken it back to.
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Sounds like bad hardware to me, I would have taken it back to.
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I went to the sprint store yesterday and they exchanged it out for a new HTC one.
Same problem with the new one. Blurry images, out of focus objects, when you zoom in the images, they are too grainy/fuzzy.
I'm now beginning to understand that it's not a hardware problem, but just a bad camera on the HTC One.
I have been comparing pictures over the past 3 days from HTC One vs my 3 year old Galaxy S2 phone.
The galaxy s2 phone pictures are significantly more clear, crisp and more detailed.
The HTC One pictures are routinely blurry, noisy and just plain out of focus in certain areas.
The HTC one pictures look good when you look at them zoomed out...but when you pinch n zoom in, you begin to see fuzzy edges and blurred focus. This does not happen on my S2.
The S2 images are 3.5 MB with resolution of 3264x2448
The HTC one images are 2.17 MB with resolution of 2688x1520
So, clearly, the galaxy s2 pics are going to look better.
I love everything about the HTC one , but the camera is a total disappointment. I wish it was a hardware defect so I could swap it for a better unit, but I suppose that's just how it is
I am on badseed rom and I opened zip and replaced the camera.apk with the new one found in international roms and wiped and reflashed and my camera is 1000% better . The one I used is from cleanrom 2.0
Mine has been the same way and I use it a lot for work. I will try the different apk.
Is this an effect of running custom roms? Isn't all the after picture stuff done via image sense?
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't.
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Is this an effect of running custom roms? Isn't all the after picture stuff done via image sense?
HTC ONE! Everything your phone isn't.
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Not sure all I know is ever since I've had the phone (I've used stock, Viper, and badseed) it's been that way.
I replaced the camera apk and reflashed my rom and the issue is still there.
It's like it only focuses in the center of the picture... everything around the center is blurry even if i touch the screen outside the center.
Here are some examples:
I'm using the xda app which doesn't handle pics very well, so it's hard to tell for sure but it sounds like you're complain about the depth of field - area of importance in focus, background/foreground blurry.
Photography 101:
The HTC one uses a camera with a f/2.0 or so lens. This means it can allow lots of light in. The lower this number is, the more light passes through the lens. There's a catch, this extra light isn't as sharp. Parts of the image fall out of focus. This is called shallow depth of field. The lower the f-stop (f number), the shallower the depth of field. There's a distance from the lens that's the sweet spot in focus, adjusting focus repositions where the sweet spot is, but the sweet spot is smaller on lower f-stops
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I'm using the xda app which doesn't handle pics very well, so it's hard to tell for sure but it sounds like you're complain about the depth of field - area of importance in focus, background/foreground blurry.
Photography 101:
The HTC one uses a camera with a f/2.0 or so lens. This means it can allow lots of light in. The lower this number is, the more light passes through the lens. There's a catch, this extra light isn't as sharp. Parts of the image fall out of focus. This is called shallow depth of field. The lower the f-stop (f number), the shallower the depth of field. There's a distance from the lens that's the sweet spot in focus, adjusting focus repositions where the sweet spot is, but the sweet spot is smaller on lower f-stops
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Still don't really understand the issue... Never had these problems with my GS3. And it really has nothing to do with background/foreground... Everything that is the same distance form the lens that is outside the center is blurry as %^#@.
I took another look outside the app at the pics. I think it's a shallow depth of field. Our camera is capable of a much lower f-stop than most others. The average consumer camera it around 3.5 f-stop for example. Until the HTC amaze, android phones never had an f-stop this low. I'm not sure what the galaxy's used though.
The pic of the signs tells me a lot that this is the case. Most people like this effect as it's artsy. The sign on the left is in focus and closer to the camera, the sign to the right is further away and not in focus. This is what depth of field is. Shallow depth of field is a smaller area in focus.
Now, I don't want to make excuses for HTC. The f-stop isn't a fixed number. It's supposed to be adjustable in cameras, we just may not have the option to. Try using landscape mode. That should keep everything in focus. This depth of field shouldn't be for every pic
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I replaced the camera apk and reflashed my rom and the issue is still there.
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If you reflashed the rom after installing the new camera apk then the old camera app will still be there since you relfashed the rom. If anything flash the newer camera apk after not before.
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If you reflashed the rom after installing the new camera apk then the old camera app will still be there since you relfashed the rom. If anything flash the newer camera apk after not before.
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I replaced the APK inside the ROM then flashed it. Simply replacing the apk from within android didn't work and it wouldn't let me just install it either..
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I replaced the APK inside the ROM then flashed it. Simply replacing the apk from within android didn't work and it wouldn't let me just install it either..
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Oh ok, well I used root explorer to replace the apk and it worked just fine. Anyway I do see a difference with the newer apk.
So I've received my HTC One and I am extremely pleased with it, there's just two questions that need clearing up for me.
The camera lens cover is a bit tilted. I have no idea if the actual sensor is also tilted or if it isolated to the glass. It seems off to me but does not seem to impact image quality, but should I get it replaced?
The camera also seems to make some sort of a click noise when I start it. Is this normal or is my One further defect?
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U not the only one man..till now I still don't now is it a factory difect or what.
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That's not right. Get it replaced.
I always have this purplish hue surrounding the edges when in the camera app. It's specially noticeable when I'm taking pictures in low light.
Plus when I cover the lens with my hand, rather than going black. It becomes red :/
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I always have this purplish hue surrounding the edges when in the camera app. It's specially noticeable when I'm taking pictures in low light.
Plus when I cover the lens with my hand, rather than going black. It becomes red :/
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I have the exact same issue in low light. Would be great to hear if that's normal for most or not.
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I have the exact same issue in low light. Would be great to hear if that's normal for most or not.
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It's an already known issue, has to do with the sensor being extremely sensitive. No need to worry
My brother has the One as well and it doesbt happen to his one. Plus when I do side by side shots of the same thing, his Camera takes better crisper pictures :what:
Ok so as I noticed,there are lot of people complaining about purple tint using the stock camera app of the One,some don't have it.
So let's see how are the percentage of both groups.
To check better the purple tint,try to take a photo of a white wall with mid to low light condition
I wonder if the purple tint is a hardware defect or just the fact that HTC used different sources of production
@vegetaleb do you have it mate? I don't have any on my March built unit
some have theorized its the heat breaking the Sensor but i use my test to do intensive gaming and GPU benchs, i also use agressive CPU governors while gaming, it's often around 60c while gaming
yet my Sensor remains flawless
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Ok so as I noticed,there are lot of people complaining about purple tint using the stock camera app of the One,some don't have it.
So let's see how are the percentage of both groups.
To check better the purple tint,try to take a photo of a white wall with mid to low light condition
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Yes i have it, but only after the 4.2 update i also tried taking a pic of a white wall like you said and also got a huge pink spot on the center.
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@vegetaleb do you have it mate? I don't have any on my March built unit
some have theorized its the heat breaking the Sensor but i use my test to do intensive gaming and GPU benchs, i also use agressive CPU governors while gaming, it's often around 60c while gaming
yet my Sensor remains flawless
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Of course not, I have the pink tint since I unboxed the phone in Paris,so no gaming back then nor hot weather,it was a late April batch,perhaps when HTC found a new source of lens after the infamous lens shortage,this lens maker has purple tint
But hey I got that thing on previous phones like SE Arc and SGS2
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Yes i have it, but only after the 4.2 update i also tried taking a pic of a white wall like you said and also got a huge pink spot on the center.
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Try rolling back to 4.1.2 to see if it still occur.. in my case.. it start happen after update to 4.2.2 but rolling back by ruu to 4.1.2 didn't change it back as before. :'(
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Try rolling back to 4.1.2 to see if it still occur.. in my case.. it start happen after update to 4.2.2 but rolling back by ruu to 4.1.2 didn't change it back as before. :'(
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Perhaps it was in the FW pack
My HTC one camera produces a lot of red noise when shooting in very low light conditions... If I block camera with something black, all screen is in bright red noise (or is it purple tint? no, no, it's red ). Noise is only visible with high ISO values (>400). Is it how it suppose to be or not?
My device was made on may in 4.1.2 and 4.2.2 i have a light pink tint in the middle of the camera usually noticing it in yellow light otherwise no
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My HTC one camera produces a lot of red noise when shooting in very low light conditions... If I block camera with something black, all screen is in bright red noise (or is it purple tint? no, no, it's red ). Noise is only visible with high ISO values (>400). Is it how it suppose to be or not?
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Me too have the red tint but i comapred the one with other devices (galaxy s3) is same light conditions the s3 showed a blind black screen while one shows the red noise .... When i covered the camera with my hand it shows black screen
Guys, lets stick to the original thread (it even has the pool).
It is much easier to track the progress on the issue if its all in one place.
Anyone took his One to repair it at HTC for this ''bug'' and got a repaired camera?
Just got my HTC one (blue best buy version) and aside from the top of the screen being a hairs width higher than the top speaker grill, it seems perfect. No camera issues (pitch black laid on a table), no apparent gaps in the plastic surround, and no other defects I can find. Anyone else care to sound off with hardware version and any defects you have?
4 and not any that I have noticed
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4 also is there other hardware versions?
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4 also is there other hardware versions?
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I was almost positive there was a 0003 but I could be wrong.
0004, Mine is from launch
0004 and the only complaint is thecamera. That was against my hand so its purple but at night, especially outside, it is a very noticeable blue. Plus the very noticeable "blocks" are pretty disappointing. I also have a problem with most pictures coming out blurry, has a small focus area that is clear and everything else seems faded.
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4... I have the red one. No camera issues and everything fits like a glove.
Well seems like there's probably only the 0004. So much for my theory that maybe that had anything to do with anything. I wish there was (or maybe there is) a way to see more detailed build date information. Maybe that would shed some light on things.
Got mine about three weeks ago.
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0004 and the only complaint is thecamera. That was against my hand so its purple but at night, especially outside, it is a very noticeable blue. Plus the very noticeable "blocks" are pretty disappointing. I also have a problem with most pictures coming out blurry, has a small focus area that is clear and everything else seems faded.
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Not to discredit your complaints. They're real issues. But are you sure the focus issue isn't related to depth of field? It's especially exaggerated on the f/2.0 aperture of our camera. But there are others too that confirmed it's a real defect, almost like the glass is out of place in the lens.
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This is mine. So sick of it.
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Have 0004 and have a very tiny gap, screen isn't flush with the grill, but not by a lot and my camera has the annoying blue and purple colors in darkness but I'm not complaining. 4.3 is supposed to fix the camera issue so we'll see what happens.
The picture is the camera pressed against my palm.
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I have 0004, and I don't have any camera problems. I do have the bottom-speaker-louder-than-top-speaker issue, though. I've also noticed that the bottom right of my screen is slightly warped inward, because the plastic on the bottom-right of the device tapers its width down slightly. But that hasn't caused me any problems.
I do have some of those aluminum-plastic gaps that some have complained about, but those don't really bother me. I keep the device in a case most of the time, anyways.
Every other little flaw (lackluster graphics performance, popping sound when WiFi is enabled), I feel, is the fault of software, which will ideally be corrected, if US carriers ever give us non-rooters 4.3.
Got mine on launch day and it's been perfect! No rough edges, no gaps (at least from what my naked eye can see), no sound or connectivity issues. My experience had been excellent. This device will encourage me to keep buying and supporting HTC devices in the future. Attached a pic of my camera held up to my palm. No odd coloring at all.
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My purple issue is very bad, am also on 0004. Took it to sprint, and I will be getting a replacement on Thursday, hopefully this one will be purple camera free
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Mine against my palm. Wonder why some have that color issue?
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Just got my HTC one (blue best buy version) and aside from the top of the screen being a hairs width higher than the top speaker grill, it seems perfect. No camera issues (pitch black laid on a table), no apparent gaps in the plastic surround, and no other defects I can find. Anyone else care to sound off with hardware version and any defects you have?
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I've only seen 0004.
I was showing my friend some of these pictures, and he said that it looks kinda like a pinched/damaged LVDS cable. With the way everything is packed so tight inside modern smartphones, and especially the One in particular, this sounded plausible to me. It does go against HTC's theory that it is a software issue, and I hope for the sake of those with issues it is just software. What do you guys think?
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I have 0004, and I don't have any camera problems. I do have the bottom-speaker-louder-than-top-speaker issue, though. I've also noticed that the bottom right of my screen is slightly warped inward, because the plastic on the bottom-right of the device tapers its width down slightly. But that hasn't caused me any problems.
I do have some of those aluminum-plastic gaps that some have complained about, but those don't really bother me. I keep the device in a case most of the time, anyways.
Every other little flaw (lackluster graphics performance, popping sound when WiFi is enabled), I feel, is the fault of software, which will ideally be corrected, if US carriers ever give us non-rooters 4.3.
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I noticed this morning the balance sounded off, my bottom speaker also sounds louder that the top. Is there a easy way to fix this?
0004 launch phone. Only complaint is the purple or red in low light camera shots.
Currently running ViperOne and I find that the camera pics that it produce is very grainy even at the highest resolution possible.
Which ROM do you like that have the best camera/video quality?
Thanks,
I personally don't think you will find a rom that will produce good pics on the HTC one. The fact is in my opinion the HTC one has the crappiest camera out there. Its an amazing phone with a horrible camera. If it had the lumia 1020 camera, this phone would be the best phone in the planet! I still like it cause love the sound and the build quality. But they dropped the ball in the camera big time. Hopefully the M8 will correct that. Fingers crossed.
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Personally I like the camera on the One. I came from a Galaxy SII with an 8MP camera and I thought that was pretty good, but the One's camera might not be the highest resolution but it puts those 4MPs to better use. As for the OP's question, I think you should try the camera from the 2.25 base, it's in the Themes and Apps section. It can make gifs too for what it's worth. But honestly I can never tell the difference in picture quality between the sense camera apps.
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Currently running ViperOne and I find that the camera pics that it produce is very grainy even at the highest resolution possible.
Which ROM do you like that have the best camera/video quality?
Thanks,
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Any Sense rom will be pretty much the same. IMHO, the HTC camera is better than the CM/AOSP one, so your grainy pictures might be as good as it gets.
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I personally don't think you will find a rom that will produce good pics on the HTC one. The fact is in my opinion the HTC one has the crappiest camera out there. Its an amazing phone with a horrible camera. If it had the lumia 1020 camera, this phone would be the best phone in the planet! I still like it cause love the sound and the build quality. But they dropped the ball in the camera big time. Hopefully the M8 will correct that. Fingers crossed.
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What build quality? Seriously? All those gap problems, and screen not being flush with the speaker grill, speaker grill overhang/underhang, makes me think HTC is low quality even though there's so little that can go wrong. Build quality is one of my major complaint about HTC One.
Most ROM's use up to date firmware bases, so there's little that can be done to improve picture quality. I think HTC One's camera is the best for indoor/low light shots. Colors are still there, and the photos are actually worth printing 4x6. For bright daylight, I think it is lower than average though. Grainy blue artificial looking sky.
Well, my One looks pretty good. Don't see any gaps here or there. Screen looks great.But if anybody has any of those problems you mentioned, they should exchange it or get a different cell. S4 is pretty good from what I hear. But don't like the fact that speaker is on back of phone. Regarding camera again, I get some good shots here and there. On phone screen they look good but when you check the full resolution in you computer, like you said "4x6" only will do. "Ultrapixel", who they kidding.
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Well, my One looks pretty good. Don't see any gaps here or there. Screen looks great.But if anybody has any of those problems you mentioned, they should exchange it or get a different cell. S4 is pretty good from what I hear. But don't like the fact that speaker is on back of phone. Regarding camera again, I get some good shots here and there. On phone screen they look good but when you check the full resolution in you computer, like you said "4x6" only will do. "Ultrapixel", who they kidding.
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I see.
Yes the pics on the phone screen looks decent, but when you try to view the pics on a laptop or 10" tablet at full resolution, it looks too grainy, lacking sharpness/detail, and a little too much artifacts.
I guess it's what one should expect from a 4MP pixel camera.