Nexus 5 possibly - Nexus 4 General

Since my first thread was closed here's the link to the article
http://www.lg-phones.org/googles-lg-nexus-5-release-date-and-specs-rumored.html
What do u think of the possible specs and the pic it shows of possible nexus 5?
This be a very likely reason the price drop for nexus 4 ?
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Anothother useless website you decided to dig up to impress xda..not gonna happen
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bigfdaddy2 said:
Since my first thread was closed
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Y u no respect the decision of the forum Gods?!
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bigfdaddy2 said:
Since my first thread was closed here's the link to the article
http://www.lg-phones.org/googles-lg-nexus-5-release-date-and-specs-rumored.html
What do u think of the possible specs and the pic it shows of possible nexus 5?
This be a very likely reason the price drop for nexus 4 ?
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You realize there is a thread dedicated to discuss other phones?

Here's a small sampling of the various rumor threads that have been started about the Nexus 5
nexus 5 based on moto x
Sony Google Nexus 5 Concept Phone
LG Nexus 5 is a comin
Moto Nexus 5 is coming
LG to make Nexus 5
Your link adds nothing and is just generalities that anybody could guess at.
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The updated version of Nexus 4 to come with LTE

The updated Nexus 4 will have LTE.. YAY actually even the actual Nexus 4 had the LTE chip right Anyway,the updated Nexus will launch in the upcoming g Google I/O event. http://www.naldotech.com/the-updated-version-of-nexus-4-to-come-with-lte/
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Yeah but it will be a nice addition with the same price so..
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Why do all the CDMA users get the good stuff? The CDMA GNex had 32gb while the GSM version was stuck with 16gb. Now they do it again with the N4?
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And what type of carriers could we expect to see this on? I don't think Google wants another Verizon and Sprint Nexus after what happened with the Galaxy Nexus
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Didn't Google drop official support for the cdma galaxy nexus leaving support for it solely on Verizon?
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It doesn't make sense to release unveil Android 5.0 with a Nexus 4.
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Kindatired said:
Didn't Google drop official support for the cdma galaxy nexus leaving support for it solely on Verizon?
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Looks like not
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so LTE coming with software update?
Can some one please tell me how exactly this is good news? That's like buying a car with small trunk space and weak transmission then the same car makers release the exact same car with more trunk space and stronger transmission. But here's the kicker: there's no recalls, so you bought the first car and now you're gonna spend money and but the better version of the SAME EXACT FREAKING CAR! Is there anyone else with common sense who gets what's going on or is XDA full of rich people that like throwing away money?
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nighthawk626 said:
Can some one please tell me how exactly this is good news? That's like buying a car with small trunk space and weak transmission then the same car makers release the exact same car with more trunk space and stronger transmission. But here's the kicker: there's no recalls, so you bought the first car and now you're gonna spend money and but the better version of the SAME EXACT FREAKING CAR! Is there anyone else with common sense who gets what's going on or is XDA full of rich people that like throwing away money?
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If they put a "S" after the Nexus 4 name, would that make you feel better?
Nice sarcasm but last time I checked, my phone was an android not an iphone
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Can some one please tell me how exactly this is good news? That's like buying a car with small trunk space and weak transmission then the same car makers release the exact same car with more trunk space and stronger transmission. But here's the kicker: there's no recalls, so you bought the first car and now you're gonna spend money and but the better version of the SAME EXACT FREAKING CAR! Is there anyone else with common sense who gets what's going on or is XDA full of rich people that like throwing away money?
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I want make a direct comment on this, but you're honestly not making much sense. That being said, I'll try my best:
People who bought the original Nexus 4 aren't also buying the new updated Nexus 4, it's more for the people who are on Verizon or Sprint, who are unable to use the Nexus 4 on that network. It's like releasing a European version of the car so that people in Europe can buy it, too, you know, with the steering wheel on the opposite side and fun stuff like that, keeping in line with the metaphor.
Not sure what you're referring to as the "weaker transmission" here either, but with regards to the "trunk space," no one was forced to buy the initial 16GB Nexus 4, as there was almost every other phone option out there with SD cards, etc. if you really cared about space. Plus, I feel most people like myself did know that a 32 GB Nexus was coming out months later during the I/O possibly, prior to buying the Nexus 4 as they did do this with the Galaxy Nexus as well.
I was under the impression that n4 already has lte you just have to activate it in the hidden menu or something like that.
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NeKr0MAtiK said:
I was under the impression that n4 already has lte you just have to activate it in the hidden menu or something like that.
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Yep,it had the chip but it couldn't be a activated
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Hey I'm just glad the Nexus 5 or whatever isn't replacing the current N4. Longevity...love it.
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Hey I'm just glad the Nexus 5 or whatever isn't replacing the current N4. Longevity...love it.
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Same here, got mine on launch day and to this date its the newest nexus and boy is it still fast
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Either I am misreading thread title or the content in the article as none of them state that this device will actually be launched:
"Looks like Google has heard users complaining so the company is rumored to unveil an updated Nexus 4 in its Google I/O event, which begins on May 15."
So as I see there's a word "rumour" which was also misspelled
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Wouldn't put any faith in a rumor read on "naldo tech" site. Never heard of it.
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Either I am misreading thread title or the content in the article as none of them state that this device will actually be launched:
"Looks like Google has heard users complaining so the company is rumored to unveil an updated Nexus 4 in its Google I/O event, which begins on May 15."
So as I see there's a word "rumour" which was also misspelled
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Rumor is the correct spelling in the U.S.
I'm with you, though. This isn't gospel until Google says it.
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Wouldn't put any faith in a rumor read on "naldo tech" site. Never heard of it.
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It has a source button at the end of the post in case you missed it
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Possible Nexus 8

Hi, yesterday I went to Staples to buy the Nexus 7 32gb for $169. I asked the Staples employee if the Nexus 7 discontinued? He said yes we are getting the Nexus 8. So I don't know if there is truth to that, but he answered pretty sure. And it felt like they already have some stock for the release date. Is it possible we can get a Nexus 8 instead of 7. I asked 7 or 8 he answered Nexus 8.
I found this also
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18724/20130709/nexus-8-release-date-specs-price-rumors.htm
Could be a nexus 8 at october. But is possible also a nexus 7.
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I doubt this guy at staples knows what he is talking about.
Why would someone random staples employee have this information, but no one else does?
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Wasn't staples the place that had the 32gb before they announced it?
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I doubt this guy at staples knows what he is talking about.
Why would someone random staples employee have this information, but no one else does?
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I dont know. Maybe they have stock? I asked him that( so the nexus 7 is discontinued? Becuse you guys getting the newer model? And he responded yes Nexus 8) thats all. He might be stupid and just guess if its 7 then the new model is 8? I dont know.
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samomamo said:
He might be stupid and just guess if its 7 then the new model is 8?
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that would be my guess...
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Wasn't staples the place that had the 32gb before they announced it?
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Yes, I bought mine almost 2 weeks early at Staples.
Just a thought but, Maybe he was confused and assumed that the new one would be called Nexus 8 because it comes after 7. I think it's safe to say with all the leaks that 7" is what is replacing it. I honestly don't think they'd do a 7" AND 8". That would be a VERY bad idea and would cause confusion and kill sales. I think it's cafe to say that Google will keep the 3 Device setup but try out a couple of others (rumors of Game console (like OUYA) and a watch have been floated).
I think Google would keep this information more private and request it not be shared with employees. Like said, it is probably the Nexus 7 Second Generation.
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You should go back to the same guy and ask if he has any idea when its coming out.
He probably didn't realize the 7 meant a 7 inch screen size and thought the 8 was the second generation like iPhone 4,4s,5...
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I am surprised he didn't say Nexus 7s or something, but you can never be sure.
Well well never know for sure until we get some leaks
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Actually you won't know for sure before the release. Leaks mean pretty much nothing.
I'm sure in nexus 7 2nd generation at october.
In Italy who know when
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Actually you won't know for sure before the release. Leaks mean pretty much nothing.
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Yeah we've had some "leaks" but still don't know a thing.
I've heard some many "involved" people say August. Retailers wouldn't be clearing stock months in advanced. iDevices don't sale until another one is announced, give or take a week.
Apple is at least more structured with their release dates. Google makes it hard. Nexus phones can be released anywhere from September to December.
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Ohgami_Ichiro said:
Just a thought but, Maybe he was confused and assumed that the new one would be called Nexus 8 because it comes after 7. I think it's safe to say with all the leaks that 7" is what is replacing it. I honestly don't think they'd do a 7" AND 8". That would be a VERY bad idea and would cause confusion and kill sales. I think it's cafe to say that Google will keep the 3 Device setup but try out a couple of others (rumors of Game console (like OUYA) and a watch have been floated).
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Yeah, I think Google will keep the 7 name, I think
Nexus 5
Nexus 7 II
Nexus 10 II
the naming makes sense like that
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IRX120 said:
Yeah, I think Google will keep the 7 name, I think
Nexus 5
Nexus 7 II
Nexus 10 II
the naming makes sense like that
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You got one out of three:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/05/10/nexus-5-nexus-8-nexus-11-concept-gallery/
It's Nexus 5, Nexus 8 and Nexus 11.
I think the Nexus 8 is a good looking design concept.
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It's Nexus 5, Nexus 8 and Nexus 11.
I think the Nexus 8 is a good looking design concept.
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No one knows for sure what they will be called
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Moto Nexus 5 is coming

Well guys how do you feel about it I was hoping either HTC or moto got it this year. With that said I really do love the nexus 4 design I just hope the next nexus wows me. But I also loved the galaxy nexus too.
http://androidcommunity.com/motorola-nexus-5-tipped-for-q4-release-20130808/
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Afraid of what CPU they'd put in it. If its Qualcomm, there might be problems with it being open with the Nexus 7 2013 fiasco with JBQ leaving AOSP etc.
I would think either a snap 800 or something like the moto x and the features become standard android in key lime. The funny thing is I hated leaving amoled now I dread going back.
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Fataldesain said:
I would think either a snap 800 or something like the moto x and the features become standard android in key lime. The funny thing is I hated leaving amoled now I dread going back.
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Thats the thing, I want a Snapdragon 800 but I don't want it if the factory images aren't going to be released as well as the GPU drivers. Thats the reason why Nexus 7 still doesn't have factory images available (or binaries).
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...om-ever-being-published-jbq-strongly-implies/
Its not a true Nexus device if those files are missing. Yeah... I really do like the IPS screen. I think they're going back to Super AMOLED if its amde by Motorola. Its a bummer that LG G2 isn't the base of the Nexus 5. LG screens are amazing.
Maybe a LG G2 Google Play Edition inbound?
I think I see what Google is doing the moto x will probably be almost free on contract by the time nexus 5 is out and new nexus will probably be rock solid design and since everyone is fine paying 600 dollars for Google play editions phones new nexus will probably be 499 or 450
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Rumors Rumors..... Realistically guys it could be made by any manufacturer but as long as it's the same price idc and u bet you guys will end up buying it
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I just hope for massive battery improvements.
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So the back looks like the N4, except for the colored X.
And I have to admit, when I saw the N4 on pictures, I knew I wanna have it.
But I am missing that feeling with the Moto X
tom1807 said:
So the back looks like the N4, except for the colored X.
And I have to admit, when I saw the N4 on pictures, I knew I wanna have it.
But I am missing that feeling with the Moto X
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Lmao u do know thats not the Nexus 5 on that pic right??? They are using a pic of Nexus 4 just for the article.
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No I want the LG nexus. Really liked LG G2 specs
Title of this thread is wrong. If Motorola is making a Nexus phone it would be based on their 4 inch screens thus it would be the new Nexus 4 (not Nexus 5). I could see LG making a Nexus 5 based on the G2 and perhaps Motorola making a Nexus 4 based on the Moto X.
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No I want the LG nexus. Really liked LG G2 specs
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Me too. There must be some prototypes already since there ain't so many months left for the proposed release. They can't just make up something in short period of time.
My money is on Motorola, sadly. They have now that thing going on with their manufacturing plants and everything so logistics and all would be so much easier in US.
Still, LG with G2 specs would have been much better choice.
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Me too. There must be some prototypes already since there ain't so many months left for the proposed release. They can't just make up something in short period of time.
My money is on Motorola, sadly. They have now that thing going on with their manufacturing plants and everything so logistics and all would be so much easier in US.
Still, LG with G2 specs would have been much better choice.
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Um no? The nexus device is usually a international unlocked phone so their factory is strictly for the moto x since it is a us exclusive plus it cost more to make it here so the phone should cost more. The lg G2 is nice but it's not all about specs
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Moto Nexus X, nomnomnom
I just hope it will get a Tegra 4 chip.
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I just hope it will get a Tegra 4 chip.
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F*** Tegra!!! Hell noh! Performance is good on Tegras, but don't expect it to be open source.
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randomnoob83 said:
Um no? The nexus device is usually a international unlocked phone so their factory is strictly for the moto x since it is a us exclusive plus it cost more to make it here so the phone should cost more. The lg G2 is nice but it's not all about specs
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You think they made a factory just to make Moto x only?
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Rumors Rumors..... Realistically guys it could be made by any manufacturer but as long as it's the same price idc and u bet you guys will end up buying it
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Taylor Wimberly has been right in the past when it comes to Nexus rumors.
bozzykid said:
Title of this thread is wrong. If Motorola is making a Nexus phone it would be based on their 4 inch screens thus it would be the new Nexus 4 (not Nexus 5). I could see LG making a Nexus 5 based on the G2 and perhaps Motorola making a Nexus 4 based on the Moto X.
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No way we get two nexus phones and that doesn't make sense one phone to lead the direction of android. Seeing the moto x features and key lime pie around the way I this all makes sense. Now what probably will still do is sell the nexus 4 from lg and maybe 250 for a 16gb. Its not like nexus specs are even dated yet.
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Fataldesain said:
No way we get two nexus phones and that doesn't make sense one phone to lead the direction of android. Seeing the moto x features and key lime pie around the way I this all makes sense. Now what probably will still do is sell the nexus 4 from lg and maybe 250 for a 16gb. Its not like nexus specs are even dated yet.
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Qualcom hopefully release the drivers and follow lg nexus with the manufacture of five.

What happens after next years Nexus 6?

So, the Nexus 5 is out
And next year the Nexus 6 will be out, I guess...
but what will happen then? Google can't release a Nexus 7, since they already have it...
What do you think will be their solution?
Batou069 said:
So, the Nexus 5 is out
And next year the Nexus 6 will be out, I guess...
but what will happen then? Google can't release a Nexus 7, since they already have it...
What do you think will be their solution?
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It won't be Nexus 6, just like this year's Nexus 7 wasn't called Nexus 8. We are going to be looking at a Nexus 5 2014 or "the New Nexus 5".
i think it is named NEXUS 5 because of the nearly 5" Screen.
The next NEXUS will probably be named the NEW NEXUS 5
Batou069 said:
So, the Nexus 5 is out
And next year the Nexus 6 will be out, I guess...
but what will happen then? Google can't release a Nexus 7, since they already have it...
What do you think will be their solution?
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The number is an indicator of it's screen size, not generation. There has already been 2 Nexus 7s. It's called Nexus 7 (2013).
Nexus5V2
At some point I think it'd just be "Nexus."
My guess is that it will either be called Nexus 5 (2014) or they will just come up with a new name.
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Well a bunch of people already said it but I'll say it again.
Its based on screen size. We will most likely get 'The New Nexus 4/5" or "Nexus 4/5 20xx Edition" they might make a nexus 6 depending on how well people like the Galaxy Note line up and other 5.5in+ screened phones.
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Nexus prime. They should use that name officially for the next nexus.
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Or they might go to letters though that's less likely. Like maybe they say the nexus g or nexus z, etc. Maybe they'll say something like nexus x like the moto x though none have the same ring to them. I like what you said about nexus prime though I think that's too flashy for them
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Neuxs 5s
or not.
wngmv said:
Neuxs 5s
or not.
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Hanna they'd get their a**es sued by apple if they did that
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abdel12345 said:
Or they might go to letters though that's less likely. Like maybe they say the nexus g or nexus z, etc. Maybe they'll say something like nexus x like the moto x though none have the same ring to them. I like what you said about nexus prime though I think that's too flashy for them
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Roman numerals.
this crap again? nobody knows for sure if the N5 was named such because of the 5th gen Nexus phone, or the 5" screen size (although the N4's 4.7" was much closer to 5" than 4")
lets all just enjoy the Nexus 5 for what it is and stop this retarded speculation of a phone that is a year away from being produced (if it gets made at all, since there is no guarantee in the first place)
They cannot use the "Nexus 6" name whatsoever.
Blade Runner and co. own the rights.
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Roman numerals.
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Pull a Final Fantasy. Obviously the best idea.
Nexus V-2.
They could name it after the major Android release. Like they could have called the Nexus 5 "The Nexus KitKat" and then next year could be "The Nexus Licorice, or Lemondrop, or whatever they are going to call it." Or so it doesn't sound so silly, they could just use the letter. Nexus K, Nexus L, etc...
They'll start calling it Google 1
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The Nexus 5s!
Batou069 said:
So, the Nexus 5 is out
And next year the Nexus 6 will be out, I guess...
but what will happen then? Google can't release a Nexus 7, since they already have it...
What do you think will be their solution?
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Duh isn't it obvious? Its going to be called the Nexus 5S just like Apple!!

@evleaks says "There is no Nexus 6. "

2 Tweets actually.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/467412167269310464
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/467414296906194944
Never was this sad ever :'( Evleaks is always spot on. Well, I hope he is really wrong this time.... :'(
Sad day, at least I have the last of its kind...
what a sad day.. now we wait for the silver program
Nothing wrong with silver other than maybe higher priced phones...... Hopefully it's not GPe phones that just turn into silver....
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i still believe there will be a n6..probably the last one
As sad as i am about this news, in a way i am also happy. I think the Silver line will get better support (fixing important issues quicker) and overall the phones will have less compromises (build quality etc..), and better availability (especially for people outside the US and select EU countries).
The movie blade runner owns the name Nexus 6 so the next Nexus phone will be called something else
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I'll wait til Google comes out and say it I don't go by anyone else and there rumors.
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Nexus 5 (2014) ala Nexus 7 (2013) ?
Silver lining for $200 more probably... There's no way carriers/manufacturers would be OK with google selling a $300 phone next to their $600 phones.
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The movie blade runner owns the name Nexus 6 so the next Nexus phone will be called something else
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This is plausible, there might not be a Nexus 6 but instead a Nexus device with a different name (probably with the word Nexus in it).
If this were the case then @evleaks would not have emphasized the term silver lining
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Who is this guy again?
RoyJ said:
Who is this guy again?
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Only the most well known leaker around so nothing to worry about lol
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Update: New tweet from @evleaks:
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Android Silver, circa February 2015.
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Source: Twitter
This just means that Google is terminating the Nexus program early since the Android Silver program is not being accelerated to replace it. I wonder what their motivation for doing so is. Also, what does this mean for the Nexus 8?
Last year evleaks said that D820 is not the new nexus, but a CDMA G2 variant. He was wrong, lol.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/376980602542501888
How can people still believe it when his leaks regarding nexus devices were once unreliable?
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So what is all this big fuss about? Don't you think google has screwed us over and over again with these crapping phones. I've owed gnex, nexus 4 and nexus 5 and looking forward that they would improve their phones but bottom line is you get what you pay for!!!
I will never buy another google phone ever and as a matter of fact, I will buy anything that headlines or competes directly with the nexus such as the OnePlus One the nexus killer!!!
http://www.techradar.com/videos/oneplus-one-nexus-killer-indepth-hands-on-cX19bdV4z80h5
Imo..the Nexus line is more alive than ever....
A lot of new accessories...
A lot of Google+ posts. From nexus celebrating the evolution of Nexus and from Google employees showing N5 photos all around the world.
A lot of new Countries with the Play Store's "Devices" branch.
However...there will always be a replacement......A reference device (or devices) for Android....called Nexus or not.
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So what is all this big fuss about? Don't you think google has screwed us over and over again with these crapping phones. I've owed gnex, nexus 4 and nexus 5 and looking forward that they would improve their phones but bottom line is you get what you pay for!!!
I will never buy another google phone ever and as a matter of fact, I will buy anything that headlines or competes directly with the nexus such as the OnePlus One the nexus killer!!!
http://www.techradar.com/videos/oneplus-one-nexus-killer-indepth-hands-on-cX19bdV4z80h5
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So you get what you pay for... yet you want the one plus one ? Hmmm.
Good luck with an invite and don't forget to buy a charger .
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flyturbo said:
So what is all this big fuss about? Don't you think google has screwed us over and over again with these crapping phones. I've owed gnex, nexus 4 and nexus 5 and looking forward that they would improve their phones but bottom line is you get what you pay for!!!
I will never buy another google phone ever and as a matter of fact, I will buy anything that headlines or competes directly with the nexus such as the OnePlus One the nexus killer!!!
http://www.techradar.com/videos/oneplus-one-nexus-killer-indepth-hands-on-cX19bdV4z80h5
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LOL. Okay. Bye then
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