[Q] Does Assist work with Google Voice? - Moto X Q&A

One of the features of the Moto X that I've been looking forward to most is the Assist app, which can - among other things - read text messages to you while you're driving. However I'm a Google Voice user, and I'm not sure if that feature integrates with Voice, or if it will only work with messages received through the standard messaging app on the phone.
Does anyone know if these two play nice together?

Not out of box
Ok so Assist has no options to tell it what messaging app to read from. So, it does not integrate with Voice. However, if you have enabled the feature which sends messages to you regular app from Voice then it should read them. However, I imagine that you probably do not have it set up this way.
Until someone comes up with a Voice+ option for stock Android it probably won't work.
tl;dt No.

I think google has lost interest in Google Voice. I can see it coming up on the chopping block in the future. They already got a treasure trove of voicemails to train their voice recognition technology on, so they no longer have anything interesting to gain from supporting the service. Like Google Reader (RIP), it is a very useful service that has no way of generating real revenue for Google.
The lack of MMS support is already killing it for me. Once the iphone started sending all multiple-recipient texts as MMS, it meant I would miss important messages (with no notification that I missed it and no notification to the sender that I never got it). This wasn't a big deal when it meant I missed silly photos from people's camera phones, but now I miss real messages.
Now they are releasing fancy new features like Assist, that don't even work with Voice.
I wonder if there is a way to swap my phone numbers. Can I move my GV number to my AT&T account and my AT&T number to google voice? I like my GV number better, and it is local to my city, but a lot of people still use my "real" number due to both the MMS issue and the fact that I only got GV in 2009.

Disappointing, but not totally unexpected. Oh well. Thanks for checking!

ottothecow said:
I think google has lost interest in Google Voice. I can see it coming up on the chopping block in the future. They already got a treasure trove of voicemails to train their voice recognition technology on, so they no longer have anything interesting to gain from supporting the service. Like Google Reader (RIP), it is a very useful service that has no way of generating real revenue for Google.
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I have no inside knowledge, but chances are Google Voice is not going away in the near future. In fact, they are integrating it with Hangouts. There is a war waging over control over the means of users messaging and there is no way Google is going to just give that up.
Now they are releasing fancy new features like Assist, that don't even work with Voice.
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Google might own Motorola but that doesn't mean that Motorola IS Google. This is Moto's feature and I don't even see why they would have integrated it with Voice honestly.
I wonder if there is a way to swap my phone numbers. Can I move my GV number to my AT&T account and my AT&T number to google voice? I like my GV number better, and it is local to my city, but a lot of people still use my "real" number due to both the MMS issue and the fact that I only got GV in 2009.
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You can port your number out of Google Voice just like you can port numbers into it.

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[Q] Google Voice

Is there an application the integrates google voice as it does in Android
There's two Google Voice apps on the marketplace that I've seen - GoVoce (£2.49) and GV Companion (£Free)
ChickenChaser said:
There's two Google Voice apps on the marketplace that I've seen - GoVoce (£2.49) and GV Companion (£Free)
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Yeah i saw the same as well and will try them out to see whats up with them
I found the GoVoice to be a better app and bought it.
ckacey said:
I found the GoVoice to be a better app and bought it.
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Since you already have the paid version. How well is it integrated ? looks like you still need to go in the app to make outgoing calls via google voice. does it share the contacts from the phone or do you have the transfer your contact book to google voice online ?
Go voice is very nice. But I don't think o can use it as phone Vmail.
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Bottom line, you're not going to get google voice integration like it is in Android.
That said, GoVoice is a solid application.
It can access your phone's contact list and from the dialer part of the application and you can choose to text or call the person you selected from your contacts list.
You can also carry on threaded text conversations from your google voice inbox via GoVoice.
The only downside is that you don't get notifications from the App when you get a new SMS or voicemail. You can work around those limitations using google voice settings, though..
i.e. you can have it forward your SMS messages to your actual nuimber and you can reply to texts from the native SMS app and have it come from your google voice number to the recipient and you can have Google sms you or e-mail you when you get a voicemail from somebody.
It's not ideal.. but if you want ideal as far as Google Voice support, Android is the only real answer. Perhaps later the developer will be able to set information for live tiles so you can keep track that way.
Andrmgic said:
Bottom line, you're not going to get google voice integration like it is in Android.
That said, GoVoice is a solid application.
It can access your phone's contact list and from the dialer part of the application and you can choose to text or call the person you selected from your contacts list.
You can also carry on threaded text conversations from your google voice inbox via GoVoice.
The only downside is that you don't get notifications from the App when you get a new SMS or voicemail. You can work around those limitations using google voice settings, though..
i.e. you can have it forward your SMS messages to your actual nuimber and you can reply to texts from the native SMS app and have it come from your google voice number to the recipient and you can have Google sms you or e-mail you when you get a voicemail from somebody.
It's not ideal.. but if you want ideal as far as Google Voice support, Android is the only real answer. Perhaps later the developer will be able to set information for live tiles so you can keep track that way.
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Thanks for the detailed answer looking forward to seeing next version from the developers
GoVoice is slow and laggy. No push notification as mentioned. can't make calls out still. I have sent the developer an email stating such. There is a way that he sets up a certain number to use to not be charged the international calls. Not a good work around. I did pay for it.
I hope that Google Voice makes it way to the Marketplace. I use it to dial out to China, El Salvador and Vietnam. Comes in really handy.
GV companion is not in the marketplace. He is currently working on it. I think that will be a better app.
mrmomoman said:
GoVoice is slow and laggy. No push notification as mentioned. can't make calls out still. I have sent the developer an email stating such. There is a way that he sets up a certain number to use to not be charged the international calls. Not a good work around. I did pay for it.
I hope that Google Voice makes it way to the Marketplace. I use it to dial out to China, El Salvador and Vietnam. Comes in really handy.
GV companion is not in the marketplace. He is currently working on it. I think that will be a better app.
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Really we can not make any outgoing calls using this APP then it is useless.
mrmomoman said:
GoVoice is slow and laggy. No push notification as mentioned. can't make calls out still. I have sent the developer an email stating such. There is a way that he sets up a certain number to use to not be charged the international calls. Not a good work around. I did pay for it.
I hope that Google Voice makes it way to the Marketplace. I use it to dial out to China, El Salvador and Vietnam. Comes in really handy.
GV companion is not in the marketplace. He is currently working on it. I think that will be a better app.
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This has not been my experience, also a paid user of the app here, my time with the app has been more like the longer reply than this one I've quoted.
ckacey said:
This has not been my experience, also a paid user of the app here, my time with the app has been more like the longer reply than this one I've quoted.
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I wish I could say the same thing. But if you look at the preview beta video of the GV companion it has so much more functionality. It has been over 35 days since he has tweeted. I am wondering what is happening with the final WP7. I sent a tweet to him and an email. I hope to hear from him soon.
U can use gvoice as default Vmail! Enter gvoice in phone settings.
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Sprint Visual Voicemail on ICS

I have heard that sprint visual voicemail works on the nexus on ics can anyone help
I have got the vtt-sprint.apk installed it and updated prl and prolfile on wifi and 3g/4g and still cant get the activation message to go through.
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news. First, VVM does work, but in order to get it to work you must completely switch to Google Voice. To do this, from any computer that you are logged into with your google account, visit google.com/voice and completely set that up. It will ask you to pick a new telephone number and it will walk you through setting up the voicemail box and all that.
Once you have all that set up it will allow you to forward calls to your cell. I recommend this rather than switching completely to Google Voice.
You can further, once you've completed this, from within your Sprint Account, choose to use strictly Google Voice but this will mean you will either forfeit the new number you just chose, or the one you have on your phone.
If you choose to keep your original number that was on th ephone first, it will migrate to your Google Voice box and your call forwarding will become a hardwired thing... Google will no longer forward calls to another number, but rather all calls to your cell number will forward to your device through hardware routing performed solely at the discretion of Google.
Sprint will, in a sense, no longer have any control over your call routing. It really makes for a total disaster to get problems resolved if you ever experience call routing issues.
In my opinion, this is an awful lot to go through, too large of a chance for errors and a royal pain in the neck to go through just for visual voicemail.
I have the closest thing possible set up... I use the number I assigned to my Google Voice box, and I set up forwarding to my phone(it's nice because I can also answer calls from my computer if I want, and if I ever change carriers I keep the number on my Google Voice box and simply set it back up to forward to another cell phone number on another carrier).
If someone calls my google voice number, it automatically forwards to my cell. If I do not answer, it reverts back to my Google Voice box voicemail and if the caller leaves a message it records it for me, transcribes it and both text's it to me and leaves a copy of the transcript in my gmail box for me for later review. It also attaches the recording to the email. Very nice feature.
So, now, I only hand out my Google Voice number and nobody ever knows my actual cell phone number. Very private if you ask me, that, and if I ever terminate my service with my cell carrier, I still have the number I give to every one and can answer it from my Gmail box. No cell phone required. I never miss calls...
There are other options with Google Voice I did not discuss here, but you will figure that out. Message me if you have any other questions. Also click thanks on my post to help me become an active member if you think this helps.
Jeff LaPointe
I have had google voice before but i wanted to get the native sprint app working. I have hear that sprint routes the nexus voicemail to a different server so it was never meant to work. but i have heard ppl having it work on GB but i just moved over to ICS and was attempting to get it to work but I can't get the activation message to send
Can you send me the apk so I can have a try at it?
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Voicemail Routing
Working for AT&T, I do know that voicemail routing is going to be your only issue. If a customer has Visual Voicemail, the feature needs to be provisioned as such and, yes, the voicemail repository server is located in a different place on different hardware. Provisioning VVM at AT&T also required that the data feature be provisioned differently. There is data for smart phones with and without vvm attached.
So, if you do not have the visual voicemail feature provisioned on your account with sprint that is the reason you are unable to successfully configure the app. The basic voicemail servers can not handle the VVM. In most cases VVM is free for smart phones, but with sprint, I doubt that to be the case.
I am satisfied with the Google Voice operation and the added layers of security it provides.
heh...clean simple and no hassles -> Go to Market and type in YouMail, download and install, follow prompts through the simple and easy setup, enjoy your new VVM
NS4G: NexusMV 4G 03.01 (Baked in Matr1x) + 1460MHz/1460MHz SmartassV2 & CWM Touch Recovery
I'm gonna call sprint to have them provision my account and try to activate vvm
Spoke with sprint they setup everything on their side and verified it and my activation message still won't go thru I I might be the apk. I tried the gb apk but it fc when I try to send
They are saying its a phone based routing problem (blaming ICS) because it works in gb and they cite a flaw in the ICS VVM API
Its a sad song
Here you go guys, enjoy.
SOLVED
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547780
Google Voice Visual Voicemail Integrated Into Stock Dialer
After a while of trying to tamper with Sprint's visual voicemail, I found that it was just easier to go with Google Voice. The new integration with ICS makes it even better.
I don't think sprint vvm is supported on the nexus
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Here is a working Sprint Visual Voicemail method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547780
Hope this helps out.

[Q] Porting phone number from AT&T to Google Voice and using Straight Talk?

Should I port my number to Google Voice?
What are the issues with having your number on Google Voice?
I will soon be switching from AT&T to an MVNO (probably straight talk). I don't totally understand the process and benefits. It seems like people recommend doing this in order to avoid hassles when changing MVNOs. I know it costs $20 but it gives you some benefits like backing up your communications and more ownership of your number.
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Moto X.
Do you MMS?
Skip Google Voice
Texting isn't as reliable over data than via cell radios in my experience.
MVNO's have high data pings, if you can stand this then you are fine saving $15 a month, otherwise just go with GoPhone, same ping as postpaid, no data speed caps, roughly same coverage map, and you keep AT&T customer support.
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Almost 2 years ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice before switching to Straight Talk, primarily because it was my published business number and I wasn't comfortable trusting Straight Talk with it. About 5 months ago I switched to GoPhone, and a few weeks ago I ported my number from Google Voice to GoPhone, and posted "Why I'm ditching Google Voice as my public number" at Android Forums:
Almost 20 months ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice, bought a Galaxy Nexus, and activated it on Straight Talk (I've since switched to AT&T Go Phone). I told no one, and used my Google Voice number as my only number. Immediately I noticed the latency on voice calls, resulting in lots of me talking over the other party, or vice versa. During the 20 or so months of use, I've seen absolutely no improvement in this area. As a result, this morning I put in a port request to transfer my Google Voice number to AT&T.
There have been other issues too, like:
The crappy UI and pathetic attempt at threading GV conversations
The inability to use Google Voice for quick responses when ignoring an incoming call (the API and permissions have existed in Android since 4.3)
Lack of MMS support
Incompatibility with some services (i.e. banks) that send texts to mobile numbers
The concept of Google Voice is great - one number, forever and always. It made it very easy for me recently when I was testing out the Nexus 5 and Moto X - I could use either phone and no one knew I was changing phones on a (sometimes) daily basis.
For those who primarily use data and texting, and make/receive few voice calls, it may not be a deal breaker, but for me the frustration of the voice latency far outweighs the benefits, even if all the other issues I listed are fixed.
But... once my port is complete, I'll probably get another GV number for use as voicemail, and for exchanges with possible Craigslist buyers, or others I don't want to give my real number to. In that case, the benefit of anonymity outweighs the downside of the latency.
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pa5tabear said:
Should I port my number to Google Voice?
What are the issues with having your number on Google Voice?
I will soon be switching from AT&T to an MVNO (probably straight talk). I don't totally understand the process and benefits. It seems like people recommend doing this in order to avoid hassles when changing MVNOs. I know it costs $20 but it gives you some benefits like backing up your communications and more ownership of your number.
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Moto X.
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UncleMike said:
Almost 2 years ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice before switching to Straight Talk, primarily because it was my published business number and I wasn't comfortable trusting Straight Talk with it. About 5 months ago I switched to GoPhone, and a few weeks ago I ported my number from Google Voice to GoPhone, and posted "Why I'm ditching Google Voice as my public number" at Android Forums:
Almost 20 months ago I ported my number from Verizon to Google Voice, bought a Galaxy Nexus, and activated it on Straight Talk (I've since switched to AT&T Go Phone). I told no one, and used my Google Voice number as my only number. Immediately I noticed the latency on voice calls, resulting in lots of me talking over the other party, or vice versa. During the 20 or so months of use, I've seen absolutely no improvement in this area. As a result, this morning I put in a port request to transfer my Google Voice number to AT&T.
There have been other issues too, like:
The crappy UI and pathetic attempt at threading GV conversations
The inability to use Google Voice for quick responses when ignoring an incoming call (the API and permissions have existed in Android since 4.3)
Lack of MMS support
Incompatibility with some services (i.e. banks) that send texts to mobile numbers
The concept of Google Voice is great - one number, forever and always. It made it very easy for me recently when I was testing out the Nexus 5 and Moto X - I could use either phone and no one knew I was changing phones on a (sometimes) daily basis.
For those who primarily use data and texting, and make/receive few voice calls, it may not be a deal breaker, but for me the frustration of the voice latency far outweighs the benefits, even if all the other issues I listed are fixed.
But... once my port is complete, I'll probably get another GV number for use as voicemail, and for exchanges with possible Craigslist buyers, or others I don't want to give my real number to. In that case, the benefit of anonymity outweighs the downside of the latency.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but.... I'm under the impression that if you port your number to google voice you don't have to use the google voice app.
I'm sure you could just set up the call forwarding and avoid using the google voice app so you could still have the benefits of your own actual phone number?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but.... I'm under the impression that if you port your number to google voice you don't have to use the google voice app.
I'm sure you could just set up the call forwarding and avoid using the google voice app so you could still have the benefits of your own actual phone number?
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There are two things to consider with Google Voice: calls and texting.
Porting your number to Google Voice does not necessarily require you to use the Google Voice app. You can setup the forwarding so that all calls to your GV number get forwarded to your real number. If you subsequently change your real number, you can easily change the GV forwarding to that new number and callers won't know the difference. For outgoing calls, you can choose to use Google Voice for no calls, all calls, international calls only, or to ask each time you make a call. If you don't use GV for a call, your real number will appear to the called party - ruining the transparency of Google Voice (that I enjoyed while testing phones). This may not be a problem for you.
For texting you have several options:
use the GV app to read and send "texts" - this maintains the transparency of Google Voice, and others send texts to your GV number and receive texts from your GV number
Skip GV and use another messaging app (including the stock app) - this totally eliminates the transparency since all texts are sent to/from your real number
Use GV's "mapping" feature - others send texts to your GV number, but the GV redirects them to your real number, making them appear in your default messaging app. The caveat here is that the messages you receive this way will appear to be from a number that's different than the number of the person that sent the text, but the message body will be prefixed with the senders name (taken from your contacts). If you send/reply to this other number, the recipient will see the text as coming from your GV number. To really make this method useable, you have to add these alternate numbers to each contact that you text. Also, until you receive a text from someone, you have no way of knowing what their "other" number is.
If you are rooted, you can use xvoiceplus which allows you to use other messaging app instead of Google voice to send or receive text message. You can even make google voice voicemail appear on the phone call log, so you never really have to use the Google voice app directly. But then voice mail thing is kinda buggy; old voicemails sometimes reappear as notification when you restart the phone.
If you can live with sms only then google voice can save you a few bucks every month. Since texting will be done through data instead of cellular signal, it won't be as good when you are in a bad signal area.

Project Fi - SMS Gateway

Dear fellow xda-ers,
I am an early adopter of Project Fi. I used to have a feature in my previous AT&T number that can send me texts when people send a mail to <my number>@txt.att.net. After multiple searches and chats with various Project Fi Support techs, I now understand that there is no SMS gateway for Project Fi, at least not yet. In this scenario, can the revered xda-ers suggest me a workaround/alternative. The case in point is this; for my work, I get paged when there is a critical/high priority issue that needs my attention. While I was with AT&T, I used to give <my number>@txt.att.net in the call out field and I get a text whenever I am paged. I am trying to get same/similar functionality now. Alternative is to be stuck with a pager, which should be in a museum & not in anyone's hands.
All your suggestions are appreciated!
I have the same issue. I send my alerts to my fi gmail address.
Contact ProjectFi and ask about it. It's like voting.
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I used to have a feature in my previous AT&T number that can send me texts when people send a mail to <my number>@txt.att.net.
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I'm up the same river. Google Voice USED TO have this feature, e.g. <number>@txt.voice.google.com -- but ProjectFi sadly ditches this for some reason.
If you are looking for email-to-sms, please let Google know. The more people who ask, the more likely it may be (re)implemented. https://support.google.com/fi/contactflow?hl=en
There's some interesting info over at the /r/ProjectFi subreddit. For example:
ch0use 7 points 5 months ago*
I probably should have checked this out before I ditched Verizon. Now I have to figure out how to get server alerts from work...
Edit: I ended up creating a label in Gmail and a filter to match specially-addressed messages and assign to that label ([email protected] or [email protected]). Then I configured Gmail app to sync that label and play a certain tone on new/unread messages. I also use the Alert.me app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hidtechs.alertme) which can repeatedly alert on unread Gmail label messages. So it's all the same but as a friend pointed out, would require to always have a Data connection so Gmail app can receive mail.
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Another app workaround option is LightFlow which can trigger individual notifications on specific gmail labels. I happen to have already bought this (load of use it is for the abandoned LED on Nexus 6 but I had already bought the paid version so I use it for this now).
I submitted a question through the ProjectFi contact page, and this is the reply I got:
Hi Nate,
Thanks for contacting Project Fi support today! I see in our notes that you're not getting any responses through our SMS gateway.I really wish we did support this but because we use the gateway for our back end it isn't currently something we offer.
Project Fi incorporated a few Google Voice features and in that process, users who use both services don't have all of the same autonomy they used to experience. This article from our Official Project Fi help pages helped me to understand it better: What Google Voice feature I get with Project Fi.
I do get a good deal of questions about the email to text features. Almost everyone who reaches out to us is also able to contact their bank or company and have them send the same notifications through a short-code channel. I hope this helps!
If there is anything else that we can do for you, or you have another question, please feel free to reach out to us anytime. We are always happy to help!!
Thanks!
- Austin
The Project Fi Support Team
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Again, the more people who ask about this, the more likely for it to be implemented.
-- Nate
An IFTTT + Push bullet recipe would work well in this scenario. That would give you the ability to send notifications to multiple devices at once too.
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I've done something like this,
(1) Ifttt recipe that'll trigger a text to my phone with content of the paged email I receive by pattern matching the Subject line
(2) As a level 1 redundancy, Have Ifttt call me with the text content
(3) As a level 2 redundancy, Send the mail to Pushover which then sends me a high priority notification straight to the phone
This setup is running fine so far.
Arfyness said:
I'm up the same river. Google Voice USED TO have this feature, e.g. <number>@txt.voice.google.com -- but ProjectFi sadly ditches this for some reason.
If you are looking for email-to-sms, please let Google know. The more people who ask, the more likely it may be (re)implemented. https://support.google.com/fi/contactflow?hl=en
There's some interesting info over at the /r/ProjectFi subreddit. For example:
Another app workaround option is LightFlow which can trigger individual notifications on specific gmail labels. I happen to have already bought this (load of use it is for the abandoned LED on Nexus 6 but I had already bought the paid version so I use it for this now).
I submitted a question through the ProjectFi contact page, and this is the reply I got:
Again, the more people who ask about this, the more likely for it to be implemented.
-- Nate
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LG Watch Sport (W280A)

Anyone else buy one? I got one last Friday (2/10/17) from AT&T and have noticed that most android wear apps aren't compatible yet. Anyone have any app suggestions?
Hey, got mine Monday via the play store. I'm just learning the device. Love it so far, but has a pretty good learning curve as I have not been using android wear since the OG Moto 360
Would love to find an extra charger (WCD-H100) to keep at my office... does anyone know of where to get one?
Got mine Saturday at an AT&t store. Went in to get the LG v20 and the sales rep brought it out. Said they got it that day. I wasn't planning on replacing my G watch, but when he checked to see if there were any deals, I could not pass it up for $50. I haven't found any accessories yet. I am also very happy with it so far. i just really want a screen protector.
Does anyone know where I can get the LG Watch Sport with international shipping?
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Would love to find an extra charger (WCD-H100) to keep at my office... does anyone know of where to get one?
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Same here . Looking for a spare charger
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AdamRuby said:
Anyone else buy one? I got one last Friday (2/10/17) from AT&T and have noticed that most android wear apps aren't compatible yet. Anyone have any app suggestions?
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Took me awhile to figure out you have to install the watch apps from the playstore app on the watch - they no longer auto-install on the watch when you install the app on your phone.
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I am not getting text message notification cards on my watch. I get the message notification tone (I have installed feel the wear) but I don't see an actual notification card on the watch. Any ideas? Email notification cards and pretty much all the others work just fine.
I ordered mine in store from Verizon last Monday. Website says it doesn't ship until 3/16
I've had the watch since the Monday after it launched and was initially not overly impressed. That all changed once I got my T-Mobile digits cloned sim card.
I now have a true stand alone communications device on my wrist. I actually leave my phone often times and use my watch with headphones to make/receive calls. Texting, calls, music, workout monitor, this thing is the absolute bomb! Speech to text on the watch is amazing, fast and accurate. The sound on headphones is not as good as my V20 but I'll accept the sacrifice.
Two gripes; the operating system reminds me of OG IOS. In other words, you have to go back to home to move between apps. A recents button would be huge! 2nd, the battery life is less than desired. I can't get a day out of it with cell service running even with Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and GPS off. The build quality on the other hand is top notch!
All in all, this thing is the epitome of a wearable!
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I've had the watch since the Monday after it launched and was initially not overly impressed. That all changed once I got my T-Mobile digits cloned sim card.
I now have a true stand alone communications device on my wrist. I actually leave my phone often times and use my watch with headphones to make/receive calls. Texting, calls, music, workout monitor, this thing is the absolute bomb! Speech to text on the watch is amazing, fast and accurate. The sound on headphones is not as good as my V20 but I'll accept the sacrifice.
Two gripes; the operating system reminds me of OG IOS. In other words, you have to go back to home to move between apps. A recents button would be huge! 2nd, the battery life is less than desired. I can't get a day out of it with cell service running even with Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and GPS off. The build quality on the other hand is top notch!
All in all, this thing is the epitome of a wearable!
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I have to agree. Got my tmo cloned sim on wednesday and its been great. My only regret is I think i should've went with the blue. The gray is lighter than what it appeared in the press shots
NFC tag discovery?
Was just wondering if this new watch has the nfc tag discovery function. Can it read NFC tags for non-payment purposes?
So, got my watch yesterday, and wanna make a declaration for AT&T users with the Pixel from Google. Number sync WILL NOT work. They will not enable (AT&T) VoLTE for this feature to work, and blame Google for not releasing specific configuration items or to provision the VoLTE package for AT&T. As a workaround, I am using Google Voice. I ported my at&t number for the Pixel and setup forwarding to the watch. Crude, but so far its working. Calling out does not work, since GV wont install on the watch. Any ideas? (Obv when I call out, it shows the watch number and not my main)
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vywwong said:
Was just wondering if this new watch has the nfc tag discovery function. Can it read NFC tags for non-payment purposes?
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Yes, NFC will work like any other. It just has all the necessary prerequisites as well, to be eligible for Android Pay.
Stramondroid said:
As a workaround, I am using Google Voice. I ported my at&t number for the Pixel and setup forwarding to the watch. Crude, but so far its working. Calling out does not work, since GV wont install on the watch. Any ideas? (Obv when I call out, it shows the watch number and not my main)
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I have AT&T and choose to use Google Voice because its better than NumberSync. Besides being both carrier and device agnostic, its more powerful, more reliable and gives us greater control over our number.
I have a Gear S3, but the process for preserving your GV caller ID is the same for any device not running Android or iOS. It's a hassle to setup, because the work that's done automatically by the GV app needs to be manually setup.
GV assigns each number in your contact list an alias number. Calls or texts placed to that number (from any device associated with your GV account) will show your GV ID. These numbers need to be saved on your device and used instead of their real number.
The first step is to capture the alias numbers. Check your messaging app, they may be displayed in your texts to the contacts. Some phones (ie. LG Stylo 2) briefly display the alias number while dialing a contact. Once captured, the number needs to be added to the contact's profile. After this is synced with your Google account, its available on any device that can access your account. I went through this process a few years ago when using a dumb phone, so when I got my watch, the contacts alias (and regular) numbers were automatically loaded on it. When using the watch, I tap on the contact and select the alias number when placing calls or texts. No one knows my watch number (or my cell phone number), only my GV number.
Now that you’ve ported your number to GV, there are two ways to handle texts. Using the messaging app associated with the devices (via call forwarding) or using Hangouts. If your collection of devices includes a tablet or a computer, using Hangouts will allow messages (and call history and voicemail) to be seen on those devices as well.
Long post, but I hope it helps.
T-Mo sim card
TheFuzz said:
I've had the watch since the Monday after it launched and was initially not overly impressed. That all changed once I got my T-Mobile digits cloned sim card.
I now have a true stand alone communications device on my wrist. I actually leave my phone often times and use my watch with headphones to make/receive calls. Texting, calls, music, workout monitor, this thing is the absolute bomb! Speech to text on the watch is amazing, fast and accurate. The sound on headphones is not as good as my V20 but I'll accept the sacrifice.
Two gripes; the operating system reminds me of OG IOS. In other words, you have to go back to home to move between apps. A recents button would be huge! 2nd, the battery life is less than desired. I can't get a day out of it with cell service running even with Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and GPS off. The build quality on the other hand is top notch!
All in all, this thing is the epitome of a wearable!
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Can you tell me more about the T-Mo digits cloned sim card, i.e., cost, where I get it? I've heard it's the least expensive option (does AT&T charge $16 for the plan + fees and taxes?). Thanks!
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afblangley said:
I have AT&T and choose to use Google Voice because its better than NumberSync. Besides being both carrier and device agnostic, its more powerful, more reliable and gives us greater control over our number.
I have a Gear S3, but the process for preserving your GV caller ID is the same for any device not running Android or iOS. It's a hassle to setup, because the work that's done automatically by the GV app needs to be manually setup.
GV assigns each number in your contact list an alias number. Calls or texts placed to that number (from any device associated with your GV account) will show your GV ID. These numbers need to be saved on your device and used instead of their real number.
The first step is to capture the alias numbers. Check your messaging app, they may be displayed in your texts to the contacts. Some phones (ie. LG Stylo 2) briefly display the alias number while dialing a contact. Once captured, the number needs to be added to the contact's profile. After this is synced with your Google account, its available on any device that can access your account. I went through this process a few years ago when using a dumb phone, so when I got my watch, the contacts alias (and regular) numbers were automatically loaded on it. When using the watch, I tap on the contact and select the alias number when placing calls or texts. No one knows my watch number (or my cell phone number), only my GV number.
Now that you’ve ported your number to GV, there are two ways to handle texts. Using the messaging app associated with the devices (via call forwarding) or using Hangouts. If your collection of devices includes a tablet or a computer, using Hangouts will allow messages (and call history and voicemail) to be seen on those devices as well.
Long post, but I hope it helps.
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Can you provide more clarity on the use of GV? Have you tried it with the LGWS or just the G3? I use my GV # for all of my phones and want to use it for the LGWS. Are you saying that I have to capture the alias # for every contacts #? What about #'s that aren't in my contacts? If I add the LGWS phone # to my GV account (just like I did for my office and mobile phones), won't that take care of the issue?
As for texting, you say "Using the messaging app associated with the devices (via call forwarding) or using Hangouts." It sounds like Hangouts will allow text messaging through GV thereby showing the GV #. Correct?
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1. Outlook Exchange for email, calendar, and contacts (and be able to see all of these on the watch).
2. Google Voice for calling and messaging.
3. Will receive notifications of calls, text messages, emails, calendar alerts.
Thanks!
drjim said:
Can you provide more clarity on the use of GV? Have you tried it with the LGWS or just the G3? I use my GV # for all of my phones and want to use it for the LGWS. Are you saying that I have to capture the alias # for every contacts #? What about #'s that aren't in my contacts? If I add the LGWS phone # to my GV account (just like I did for my office and mobile phones), won't that take care of the issue?
As for texting, you say "Using the messaging app associated with the devices (via call forwarding) or using Hangouts." It sounds like Hangouts will allow text messaging through GV thereby showing the GV #. Correct?
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My GV number is the only number that I know, carrier assigned numbers are meaningless. So I understand where you're coming from. I'm not a tech head so I can't explain it any better than to say the GV app is basically a script. When you select a contact's number, the GV app steps in and dials the assigned alias number for that contact. Ditto with messaging, if the GV app isn't configured properly (to use your native messaging app), your carrier number will be revealed.
On devices that don't have a GV app, it must be done manually. Unless there's a GV app for Android Wear or the AW version of Hangouts can make calls, the process will be the same. I've never laid hands on the LG watch, so I can't speak specifically about it. Since very few folks have the Sport, it might be helpful to post on the LG U2 forum, should be a couple of GV users there.
The manual process sounds more tedious than it actually is. Realize that it only applies to communications that: 1) you initiate and 2) from the watch and 3) in standalone mode. All incoming calls and texts can be received and replied to without the alias number. When the watch is connected via BT, its basically a remote control, outgoing calls go through the phone, so the GV app is used. Texting is a bit more complicated. There is no Hangouts app for Tizen, so you can reply but not initiate. Texts can be placed with the Tizen messaging app, but again, if the alias number isn't used, the watch number will be revealed.
When its filtered down, out of the few hundred contacts you may have listed in your Google account, there are probably only a couple of dozen numbers that you need to capture. The first time you dial a new number on a phone associated with your GV account, the GV app creates an alias number, even if you don't create a new contact. This will need to be manually captured for the watch if future use is desired.
I am happy with the S3 but would switch to AW, if/when it has better integration with GV and better standalone capability than the S3. I don't believe it does at this time. Please let me know if you discover otherwise.
Getting a handle on this
afblangley said:
My GV number is the only number that I know, carrier assigned numbers are meaningless. So I understand where you're coming from. I'm not a tech head so I can't explain it any better than to say the GV app is basically a script. When you select a contact's number, the GV app steps in and dials the assigned alias number for that contact. Ditto with messaging, if the GV app isn't configured properly (to use your native messaging app), your carrier number will be revealed.
On devices that don't have a GV app, it must be done manually. Unless there's a GV app for Android Wear or the AW version of Hangouts can make calls, the process will be the same. I've never laid hands on the LG watch, so I can't speak specifically about it. Since very few folks have the Sport, it might be helpful to post on the LG U2 forum, should be a couple of GV users there.
The manual process sounds more tedious than it actually is. Realize that it only applies to communications that: 1) you initiate and 2) from the watch and 3) in standalone mode. All incoming calls and texts can be received and replied to without the alias number. When the watch is connected via BT, its basically a remote control, outgoing calls go through the phone, so the GV app is used. Texting is a bit more complicated. There is no Hangouts app for Tizen, so you can reply but not initiate. Texts can be placed with the Tizen messaging app, but again, if the alias number isn't used, the watch number will be revealed.
When its filtered down, out of the few hundred contacts you may have listed in your Google account, there are probably only a couple of dozen numbers that you need to capture. The first time you dial a new number on a phone associated with your GV account, the GV app creates an alias number, even if you don't create a new contact. This will need to be manually captured for the watch if future use is desired.
I am happy with the S3 but would switch to AW, if/when it has better integration with GV and better standalone capability than the S3. I don't believe it does at this time. Please let me know if you discover otherwise.
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Thanks for the clarification. I'm no techie either! Can you explain what you mean by alias #? And how do you manually capture it?
Much appreciated.
drjim said:
Thanks for the clarification. I'm no techie either! Can you explain what you mean by alias #? And how do you manually capture it?
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Though not specific to smartwatches, here's a thread on XDA that discusses this topic in detail. Some folks call it a shadow number.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...p-Now-I-need-a-data-connection-to-make-a-call
Does anybody know if the AT T model is locked? (sorry for bad english)
ymy07 said:
Does anybody know if the AT T model is locked? (sorry for bad english)
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Locked or unlocked is irrelevant because it has an embedded SIM. No one has reported being able to get another provider to program it, even if on the same network. For example, no has been able to put the AT&T version on Cricket. Or use the T-Mobile version on MetroPCS.
Doesn't the AT&T and Google Play Versions just have a Nano Sim card slot?
afblangley said:
Locked or unlocked is irrelevant because it has an embedded SIM. No one has reported being able to get another provider to program it, even if on the same network. For example, no has been able to put the AT&T version on Cricket. Or use the T-Mobile version on MetroPCS.
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It does not have an embedded SIM. It has a nano sim and the one of Google Store is unlocked. There are many posts on the internet about using other carriers (TMO, Project Fi) with it. Google is your friend.
https://9to5google.com/2017/02/13/h...into-the-lg-watch-sport-video-android-basics/

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