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Hi everyone!
It might sound silly and i hope i post it in the right section, but i just bought the S3 mini(N version) and before i buy a new device i check XDA community status, checking for custom roms, root, recovery etc etc....
coming for a very huge community of a flagship device(HTC Desire HD, which had 4.2.2 update just a few days after official google release)
i was disappointed to see not too many roms in the development section especially for the N version (and no fully working CM rom),
but it was still enough, so i bought it and i'm very pleased.
Nowadays i see the community flourish! new N version compatible roms, toolkits, themes, all updated and with constant replays from the chefs,
so a question pops into my head... why now?!
the device was released in November 2012... what took so long?
i do understand it's not a flagship device but still.... i'm wondering...
i know the reason i bought the device right now it's because of it's low price at the moment(about 350$ in Israel).
on the same note i would like to thank all the developers and who ever is contributing to this wonderful community, may it continue to grow!!!
The community's been around for a while. This phone's only about 6 months old, root was gained inside a week, and they were struggling to get a working recovery that didn't cause a soft brick for a couple months. Give the devs time to get us a working CM build.
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Chill out, better now than never, take a look at Galaxy Ace, it's from 2010 (?) and still receives new roms and updates. I prefer our phone to be maintained for 2-3 years than have a quick but short span of excitement and then nothing.
let's clear something, i am chill and i praise the devs for the work for how long it will take,
it was all from curiosity! sorry if anyone thought otherwise!
you gave me good answers and i see the development moving on rapidly, may this device will have support for at least a few years.
thanks guys.
ExcaliberX said:
let's clear something, i am chill and i praise the devs for the work for how long it will take,
it was all from curiosity! sorry if anyone thought otherwise!
you gave me good answers and i see the development moving on rapidly, may this device will have support for at least a few years.
thanks guys.
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Samsung I8190 Galaxy S III mini - 2012, October
HTC Desire HD - 2010, September
It is great phone. I am sure that developers will make great stuff for it. Cheers
hello everyone
well idk how to start but i am a sony user i have xperia sl and now i am thinking having tab ,, but since that sony make updates in looooooooooooooooooooooooong time i decided not to but another sony product so i am asking ur help here coz i got confused between google nexus 7 and samsung glalaxy 7 :/
so guys wat do u thing i have to go for ?!
ps : i am a dentist ( but not stinky i just wanted to make unique name ) so i will use my tab for studding , reading and this things ,, idc about that back camera ! it make no difference for me
sorry i am a noob and rly want to make a decision .
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MD
GedBlake said:
Make your decision elsewhere... in orange if it pleases you... this is the Q&A section. Try posting in General... and dial down the wacky/zany quality. Who knows, you might even get a meaningful response!
Rgrds,
Ged.
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The last I looked, you weren't a Moderator.
Perhaps rather than getting "sassy" like you own the place, you could have just answered the question.
Regards,
MD
To the "Stinky Dentist), get the Nexus 7. Has a nice development forum for it.
Oh, I moved this to general forum.
MD
Moscow Desire said:
The last I looked, you weren't a Moderator.
Perhaps rather than getting "sassy" like you own the place, you could have just answered the question.
Regards,
MD
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Apologies , Moscow Desire and stinky dentist...
Guess I'm just tired (been up for 30 hours)... it was the whole orange color scheme and the fact I couldn't really understand the question upon my first reading.
And you're right, MD, I'm not a moderator... I overstepped the mark... sorry.
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@stinky dentist....
I don't know about the Samsung... but the N7 is a pretty cool device. If you're willing to go all the way with it (unlock the bootloader), there are some great custom ROMs to flash... and with a newly discovered exploit, it's easy to ROOT.
I suppose it depends on what you want to use the device for... gaming, browsing, etc. Flashing custom ROMs... Does the Samsung have an unlockable bootloader? The Nexus 7 does... and that is why it's such an attractive device for tinkerers like me.
Anyway, just my thoughts... you'll have to make your own decision of course.
Good luck... and once again, my apologies for being so short with you.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Thanks Mate. Cheers
MD
thanks everyone for your help and yes i am looking for fast , durable ,, reliable and smooth device ,, easy to use every day in work and home ,, and i am not a gamer and if i am going to play games i prefer play it on pc or my lap ,, well idk about samsung so i am asking u guys as pros and u have knowledge about this stuff , i got 2 votes for google nexus 7 ,, thanks for your help
stinky dentist said:
thanks everyone for your help and yes i am looking for fast , durable ,, reliable and smooth device ,, easy to use every day in work and home ,, and i am not a gamer and if i am going to play games i prefer play it on pc or my lap ,, well idk about samsung so i am asking u guys as pros and u have knowledge about this stuff , i got 2 votes for google nexus 7 ,, thanks for your help
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No problem...
If you're interested in the 7inch form factor, and the Nexus 7 in particular, you might want to keep your cash in your pocket for a while, as there is a second generation Nexus 7 on the horizon, tentatively pencilled in for a July release...
http://www.pc-tablet.com/23388-google-nexus-7-2nd-generation-release-date-specs-android-50-updates
http://www.product-reviews.net/2013/04/16/nexus-7-sequel-sales-predictions-for-2nd-gen
There's a lot of baseless speculation, not least here on XDA, about this device and KeyLimePie (Android 5.0)... and even a putative further upgrade to JellyBean, namely 4.3. (If that happens, I will be astonished.)
If I were you, with money to spend on an Android tablet, I would hold off until the Google I/O conference in San Francisco (May 15-17), when it's expected significant announcements and product rollouts will occur... both software and hardware related.
Rgrds,
Ged.
GedBlake said:
No problem...
If you're interested in the 7inch form factor, and the Nexus 7 in particular, you might want to keep your cash in your pocket for a while, as there is a second generation Nexus 7 on the horizon, tentatively pencilled in for a July release...
http://www.pc-tablet.com/23388-google-nexus-7-2nd-generation-release-date-specs-android-50-updates
http://www.product-reviews.net/2013/04/16/nexus-7-sequel-sales-predictions-for-2nd-gen
There's a lot of baseless speculation, not least here on XDA, about this device and KeyLimePie (Android 5.0)... and even a putative further upgrade to JellyBean, namely 4.3. (If that happens, I will be astonished.)
If I were you, with money to spend on an Android tablet, I would hold off until the Google I/O conference in San Francisco (May 15-17), when it's expected significant announcements and product rollouts will occur... both software and hardware related.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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What he said...
But if you need to buy one now, I would recommend N7... I am a Samsung fan and I own a few Samsung devices, but current gen N7 has better specs than Tab 2 7. One thing I miss though... is that Samsung has a microSD expansion slot. I miss this a lot on my N7 but other than that, I would consider N7 a better buy.
This is not a rant or a moan or whatever you want to call it. This is just clearing a few things up after the last few days what i have been reading on the forum.
Firstly support for N4 will still be there after this update, and i am sure we have at least one more major update to come for our beloved device. People saying that our phone will be next are just talking rubbish. People all over the forum are crying thinking that our device will be next. Until a confirmation from Google can people please stop with the conspiracy theories.
Also regarding with the launcher. Now i am not that really bothered if it gets released or not as i do not use Google Now. But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
I love my phone and i do not see a reason why i should upgrade to the Nexus 5. I do not want though people in the forum to start moaning about things that are not official yet from the God itself which is Google. Yes they are not perfect but until the actual release gets to our device and we have things missing then fine all hell can break lose.
Oh and one last thing. Yes am gutted that we not got the update soon as the release came out but we are still the first to get it were other mega devices are not getting it at least December or Xmas the earliest..So am still thankful for the Nexus line. But that will start not meaning anything soon anyway if they carry this new strategy of there to put money first before anything else.
But till then please take a chill pill people.
This will get shut down and deleted am sure but i just wanted people to read this and seriously take it easy till there is ACTUAL CONFIRMATION by GOOGLE THEMSELVES..
Mods sorry if this should not be here but sometimes a man has enough when reading through the forums and having whiny kids whine all the time.
And to add...We are XDA...If things go missing and are not included in the build that our beloved N4 should get then people trust our great and respectful Developers here who are if you do not mind me saying better than those at Google..We will have those features that the N5 has and if not should be better build than stock...So please show your support for our devs and less whining and help this place for newbies instead of moaning all the time about something that has not been confirmed yet
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
Ignasiuz said:
:highfive: for you!
This is exactly my opinion on the subject.
If you are on XDA, odds are that you know how to mod your phone, and believe me, everything that will not come with the official OTA will be made avaliable soon here on XDA.
Right, you might need root, you can argue you do not want to root but then what is the point of your anger if you do not want to take action to get something you want?
Just wait for Google to release the OTA and everything will be clear!
Should be soon I guess
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exactly my friend. until something has been confirmed i do not understand why people are panicking. and by the next update which will be by summer time our phone should be more than capable to handle it and i am sure we are in for that to. phones should have a support from the OS development team ie Google at least maximum two years...so why are people are stressed is beyond me.
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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But again were is the official confirmation that the launcher will not be included for our device? There is none. Just tech sites writing there stuff as usual and every one is lapping it up and making a fuss.
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Sure there is confirmation. It is not included in the Nexus 7 WiFi KitKat update. And Google confirmed it with The Verge and said it is possible they will bring it to other devices other than the N5 someday but not initially.
Great post OP.. You know what I think it is? Purely my opinion after mulling over how absolutely weird the 4.4 rollout and release has been.
Ever been in a corporate environment where someone important is replaced? It's hell.. JBQ left and was replaced.. So here you have a new guy who is pulling the old corporate "I'm new and have to flex my superiority and change things to make it look like I'm doing something different and being productive" (ie: Fishing for his next promotion).. This happens in nearly every business.. It's hilarious to watch happen in real life because most employees know it's coming.. 3 months later after everyone hates the new guy and his useless changes everything goes right back to the way it was. I'm certain all the rumblings this is causing is being heard..
This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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No please, not again.
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No please, not again.
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Its called discussion. If you do not want to participate then don't post. Hence why the other thread got closed
Cause useless posts like yours
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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Goku80 said:
Now as the Galaxy Nexus that is a strange one and Google should state the reasons why they are not supporting it but again that is nothing to do with me or concerns me..But for people to start saying that the N4 is next is beyond silly to say
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It has to do with the Ti core not being supported anymore. Also, not being supported by Ti did not meant it doesn't work for Galaxy Nexus, just means Google would not support a device without former support to its hardware.
Anyways, Galaxy Nexus got 4.4 already, go Install it
forever_lol said:
Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion will be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and closed. Good luck though
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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Please enlighten me, what's the difference between your thread and the one that got closed. You've already labeled all that don't share your point of view by "whiners" (btw weren't you the one that also happened to "whine" at the beginning? ) so what do you expect? It's obvious that any sort of discussion won't be possible here. Your thread will sooner or later became exactly the same place of mindless arguments and eventually closed.
But you're right. If am not interested to participate so I am done. Good luck though, I am sure you're get many "thanks".
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It is not about getting many thanks..To be honest got enough already as it is. Now moving on
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This is all very nice but it makes my think longer and hard did l make the right decision buying a nexus 4.With the ota out for nexus 7 and 10 l just wonder what the delay is with nexus 4
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Notice the GSM/LTE tablets haven't got an update yet either...
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Isn't this the waiting room for nexus 4 owners that are waiting on the ota?
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To be honest the reason why i opened this thread is to get my opinion about the many things that i have read on the forum. Many false information that is going around by others is beyond ridiculous because they listen to tech sites most of them without any proper confirmation by Google itself...Now as to regarding the updates that are coming for our device if there is an official changelog by Google to say what are the changes from the older nexus devices compare to the N5 then i will eat my hat if it is out already stating what we are getting and missing out on..
But again people forget that XDA is here to help..Hence why we should not be ranting and raving
What am trying to say is that i want this thread to stick to a proper adult discussion about our device regarding the build that we should get..And i do not want people to give mis-information till we get it from the Big Boss itself
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I can understand your point here OP but, the purpose of forums such as this one is to allow for open discussion on a topic. I see no issue with speculation or assumption as long as people keep their heads. That is, after all, what makes things interesting and keeps people intrigued. If we went purely on the facts at hand 100% of the time, discussions would end fairly quickly and most forums would be desolate places.
Just my .02
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...Google end production on nexus 5....
http://techpp.com/2014/11/05/nexus-5-discontinued/
..Nexus 5.0 update delayed until Nov.12..
http://www.androidpit.com/android-5-0-lollipop-update-delayed-on-nexus-range
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from the same article that you posted about the n5 being discontinued..
Update: There’s a possibility that Google is stopping the production of only the 32GB version of Nexus 5, as the XDA user above was asking for a replacement of 32GB Nexus 5. We will be contacting LG/Google for clarification and will update this article accordingly.
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End of production was to be expected from my point of view.
But "delayed" update was a quiet a surprise because I was expecting at the end of November.
I'm quiet happy that they will release OTA on 12th, that means the image will be up few days sooner.
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Nah it will not end.
http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
The site says it all.
Yea... Wouldn't make sense to discontinue it, and take the effort to redo the Nexus 5 page showing it running Lollipop.
Come on guys, you know how it is. This is rumor season. A bunch of people just randomly show up to the forum to post something they probably saw on G+ or something. Take 99.99% of all of this stuff with a grain of salt. As for the N5, I'll believe it's discontinued when you can't buy it on the Play Store from a link that says get your NEW Nexus 5 here...
So, you're pointing to a blog that in turns points back to lively thread here in our very own forums... Needless to say the original XDA thread does a fine job of repudiating the idea that the N5 has been terminated -- for all the reasons noted in the above posts. Circular posts like this just feed the rumour mill and before long we all end up authoritatively on IBTimes!
Though the N5 portion of this thread seems redundant in light of the XDA source thread I'll add a further 2¢: The original complaint seems to be someone trying to RMA their device (specifics are lacking), If that's the case he/she would only be offered a refurbished unit as per Google policy. That wouldn't explain the explain the wording of the feedback from Google Play, but in that case I'd suggest it's little more than miscommunication. In fact, the wording of the Play email is rather unlike anything I've ever had back from Google/Play support.
Said thread / rumour began here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-5-wont-produced-anymore-t2921263/page2
EDIT: *sigh* Even the postponement item is a report on a rumour from another site. "Android Police claims to have learned that the over-the-air (OTA) update for Android 5.0 Lollipop has been postponed to until..." While AP is a very credible source (and this report has been thoroughly covered in the appropriate forum here already), linking to a repeat of a report is fairly useless unless the fresh take offers an actual fresh take with, ya know, with new details or insights.
What happened to official statements? Are they valid nowadays? Because Google hasn't officially declared anything regarding this... So why discuss it further?
A new thread for every single article on lollypop?
It would be awesome if there were one place to discuss all these...... Wait... What about...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795890
KJ said:
A new thread for every single article on lollypop?
It would be awesome if there were one place to discuss all these...... Wait... What about...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795890
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That thread is for the Developer Preview of Lollipop. Not the public production release of Lollipop.
I for one have found info on Production release lacking on this forum so informative threads are appreciated.
tgrgrd00 said:
That thread is for the Developer Preview of Lollipop. Not the public production release of Lollipop.
I for one have found info on Production release lacking on this forum so informative threads are appreciated.
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I dont even use this site as much Now since Everyone seems to want a ALL -N- One thread .. I not gonna read thur 100+ pages of stuff to find what im looking for.. And if the Thread title doesn't describe what im looking for i dont click it.. BTW i didnt know a Thread was made already for End of Production news.. SORRY.. Not everyone gets up here everyday..
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I dont even use this site as much Now since Everyone seems to want a ALL -N- One thread .. I not gonna read thur 100+ pages of stuff to find what im looking for.. And if the Thread title doesn't describe what im looking for i dont click it.. BTW i didnt know a Thread was made already for End of Production news.. SORRY.. Not everyone gets up here everyday..
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Yep, this trend makes it appear as if there is a lot less content too. Plus like you mention I'm not reading 100 pages in a thread with a title I have no interest in.
Much easier to have more specific topics with several pages than broad topics with hundreds of pages where who knows what page the info I'm looking for might be on.
txtmikhail said:
I dont even use this site as much Now since Everyone seems to want a ALL -N- One thread .. I not gonna read thur 100+ pages of stuff to find what im looking for.. And if the Thread title doesn't describe what im looking for i dont click it.. BTW i didnt know a Thread was made already for End of Production news.. SORRY.. Not everyone gets up here everyday..
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Well, if you had read the blog post that you cited regarding end of production you'd have seen that it was referring to (and linked to!) an XDA N6 thread. If, having realized this, you still felt there was a clear need to (re)post it here you could have - at least - linked directly to the original XDA thread.
Another future of N5/Nexus thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919674
And most here know that all L discussion goes in the L general or Q&A threads until it's officially released. Hence the reason every single L or Lollipop thread has been closed by the moderators.... In case you didn't see that trend. ?
Please guys. Stick to the L sticky threads as we've been asked to numerous times. ?
This is very good news.
Now android l can fix the problems of nexus 5 and make much better. now i like nexus 5. nexus 6 too big, it sad and sad
why delay because google still watch us with nsa so who care if they watch us all the time then they watch us right now be very disappointed with the delay
Aerys said:
Nah it will not end.
http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
The site says it all.
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I will point out that the 32GB is out of stock on the Nexus 5 minisite, but that just means out of stock, which means no backorderable stock, which could mean waiting on new manufacture. I actually believe that Google understands, as do I, that this phone is still very cutting edge; and at this price point, most certainly the best buy for the dollar on the market. I have the opportunity to get any new phone now with a company paid monthly bill on AT&T or Verizon. You know what? I'm gonna keep my N5 on Straight Talk. Call me a dummy but I can't find a phone I like more with the features I've grown attached to (wireless charging ftw), a brilliant high dpi screen, and a form factor that fits just right (any larger and I can't one-hand it on the subway while keeping my other hand on the railing). What really makes a phone feel new is a radically upgraded OS, and that's what I have now with my no-questions-asked free replacement refurb on Android 5.0. Thanks Google!
@KJ is right, plenty of threads to discuss this.
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Just swapped my nexus 6 for another unit because of vibration issues.. But was unsure if the 5.0.1 update was actually worth it?.. Did initially update straight away on the old unit but decided not to at the moment.. Any good reasons to update.. Input would be appreciated
questions go into the q&a section, not into general. ill ask a mod to move it there..
Yeah sorry realized afterwards.. Many thanks