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Discuss Upgrading Raider (Bell/Rogers) to ICS

After reading for the last 2 days, I am still unsure of exactly how to upgrade my Raider (Canadian) to ICS. There are probably others trying to work out the same. So, to avoid the problem of having noobish questions asked repeatedly in multiple other threads, I have created this thread. If the thread is active, I will try to keep the first couple posts updated to minimize the need to read through multiple pages!
If you are a Dev or experienced, knowledgeable user, I'm sure you see the benefit to answering once in a proper thread.
My thoughts so far:
1. Back everything up and fully charge your device.
2. Have a plan for what you will do if this fails and you brick your device.
2. Unlock your bootloader and Root your device. Link To Slapshot30's Superguide
4. Turn off security on your device (S-OFF) Link to Juopunutbear S-OFF Thread
5. Change your carrier id to "SuperCID" jmone's post on checking and changing your CID
6. Relock your bootloader.
7. This is the step I am unsure of... People seem to use some terms interchangeably, but I'm not sure it is reliable. For example, HBOOT, boot.img and kernal. I think the first two are synonymous but I'm not sure kernal is the same? Since there is no Bell or Rogers ICS, we are going to use another carrier's stock, or more likely, a custom ROM. I have read that you need to replace the HBOOT (boot.img?) with one that is a match for the ROM you wish to install. I think a match generally will be found by (ideally) using the HBOOT recommended by the ROM dev, or secondarily, using the HBOOT for the same carrier and same OS (eg if a rom is based on AT&T 2.3.7, then using the HBOOT extracted from the stock AT&T GB 2.3.7 RUU would work). So, we need to clarify the steps here for HBOOT/boot.img (and kernal?)
8. Install ICS ROM!
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Noobs, etc: Ask away and as we get answers I will add them to the FAQ post.
For those that have been successful in applying ICS to their Canadian Raider, please provide precise, detailed explanation of how you did it!
DEV's & other experts, your input would be appreciated. In return, you'll minimize pages of unwanted posts elsewhere!

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Okay to start off I have a Bell raider with S-OFF and running Dark Raider 1.2 with the KozmiKKernel Beta 5.
Follow this handy guide made by mohamed_moscow: (word for word)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612685
Once you get to the last step you can flash any custom rom and kernel!

Almost glad that I haven't been checking XDA in a while only to come back and see the s-off is working now. Awesome.

After updating my Bell Raider to ICS, I noticed nothing bad except one thing : when I'm in call, the other person I'm talking to is complaining about some feedback thru my phone. They say they hear themselves.
Anyone has the same issue?
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ideaLduK said:
After updating my Bell Raider to ICS, I noticed nothing bad except one thing : when I'm in call, the other person I'm talking to is complaining about some feedback thru my phone. They say they hear themselves.
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My guess is this will get resolved once Rogers releases their ICS OTA/RUU and we have a proper Rogers radio.img.

formicae said:
My guess is this will get resolved once Rogers releases their ICS OTA/RUU and we have a proper Rogers radio.img.
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Which brings the next question....when rogers when????
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I just updated the superguide and it should work for all carriers. The basis of it for carriers other than AT&T is....
lock bootloader
run GB RUU for whichever carrier
unlock bootloader
S OFF
flash wcx recovery
update to international ICS hboot
flash wcx recovery
flash custom kernel + ROM

If the radio really is the issue, since bell and rogers share identical protocols and frequencies you will be able to use the bell radio. Bell has announced released in june, so if rogers doesn't parallel back you can get s-off and then just apply the new bell radio.
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slapshot30 said:
I just updated the superguide and it should work for all carriers. The basis of it for carriers other than AT&T is....
lock bootloader
run GB RUU for whichever carrier
unlock bootloader
S OFF
flash wcx recovery
update to international ICS hboot
flash wcx recovery
flash custom kernel + ROM
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So that way we would keep our radio, right?
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.

Well I have the att vivid using red pocket. This is what I did. When I got phone it was already running ics.
Unlock bootloader
Installed wcxrecovery and flash wcx ics 3.6
You can stop right there if your using att vivid. But I continued and
S-off
Super cid
Pretty simple as the superguide wasn't updated when I did it but I just read up before installing anything. Took me an hour to do everything now I have a awesome phone that I traded for a skyrocket for. No regrets
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ideaLduK said:
So that way we would keep our radio, right?
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
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I think so... But it's looking like I probably need to add in the CID stuff to the guide just to be safe as well.

slapshot30 said:
I think so... But it's looking like I probably need to add in the CID stuff to the guide just to be safe as well.
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Well I will try that and I will report the results here for you to know.

ideaLduK said:
Well I will try that and I will report the results here for you to know.
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Yea definitely let me know. We've been having a few problems lately with people that have the Canada version so your feedback might help figure stuff out.
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Raider ICS Update
I started off with the Rogers HTC Holiday and in a span of a day I managed to complete the entire unlock procedure thanks to SUPERGUIDE and the thread on ICS HBoot update. This was the most complicated device I have ever unlocked amongst HTC Pyramid z710a and the HD2. I hope ROGERS releases this RUU soon! Installing Dark Raider 1.4.2 as I type!! ))

Bajio20 said:
I started off with the Rogers HTC Holiday and in a span of a day I managed to complete the entire unlock procedure thanks to SUPERGUIDE and the thread on ICS HBoot update. This was the most complicated device I have ever unlocked amongst HTC Pyramid z710a and the HD2. I hope ROGERS releases this RUU soon! Installing Dark Raider 1.4.2 as I type!! ))
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Which thread do you mean by the one for hboot update? The one where you change the cid values and such?
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I'm running DarkRaider 1.4 on a Rogers Raider. I followed the steps for the S-OFF you linked in your post, then flashed WCX recovery via the Vivid AIO tool (check the Dev forum, it's stickied). After that, I just flashed the ROM via recovery, no problems.
Other than a few ROM specific bugs, I haven't had a problem. I'm still waiting for Visual Voicemail to work though.

[Q] HTC One UK Three Mobile.

Hi all, This is my first post so please be gentle!!
I have searched the forums but dont really know too much about what I need so please forgive me if im going over old ground.
Basically Im sick of waiting for the OTA 4.2.2 update of my HTC One from 3UK.:crying: As everyone else is getting their update 3UK have changed their tune numerous times about weather the update has been pulled, Is in testing, Is being rolled out or now low and behold its back in testing again. They never give a straight answer and after tweeting them someone else has reccomended changing my CID? to allow me to ge the update.
I have been reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317536 and I was wondering if this is indeed what I need to do. If I follow the instructions in this thread I understand it changes the CID on my phone, but how do I then go about getting the 4.2.2 update?
Where would I get it from and would that affect any future OTA updates. I dont want to root the phone as Im quite happy with Sense 5 I just want to be able to get the 4.2.2 update without having to wait for three to push it.
So basically can I use the procedure in the link above to change my CID. And after doing this where do I then get the update from. Do I then just check for updates??
Thanks in advance for any replies!
Regards,
Chris.:laugh:

chris_2jze said:
Hi all, This is my first post so please be gentle!!
I have searched the forums but dont really know too much about what I need so please forgive me if im going over old ground.
Basically Im sick of waiting for the OTA 4.2.2 update of my HTC One from 3UK.:crying: As everyone else is getting their update 3UK have changed their tune numerous times about weather the update has been pulled, Is in testing, Is being rolled out or now low and behold its back in testing again. They never give a straight answer and after tweeting them someone else has reccomended changing my CID? to allow me to ge the update.
I have been reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317536 and I was wondering if this is indeed what I need to do. If I follow the instructions in this thread I understand it changes the CID on my phone, but how do I then go about getting the 4.2.2 update?
Where would I get it from and would that affect any future OTA updates. I dont want to root the phone as Im quite happy with Sense 5 I just want to be able to get the 4.2.2 update without having to wait for three to push it.
So basically can I use the procedure in the link above to change my CID. And after doing this where do I then get the update from. Do I then just check for updates??
Thanks in advance for any replies!
Regards,
Chris.:laugh:
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Anybody?? Just some advice would be good.? I have alos read that a certain unlock will mean it doesnt wipe my sd card. Is this the case also as im still on 4.1?

80 views and no replies? Come on guys, Point me in the right direction.. All I want is 4.2.2 with a stock Sense 5 phone.

chris_2jze said:
80 views and no replies? Come on guys, Point me in the right direction.. All I want is 4.2.2 with a stock Sense 5 phone.
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Use Revone to s-off and unlock, change CID from H3G__001 to HTC__001, flash the unbranded RUU, updates will appear when available on your device.
Use search for all of the above, unless someone else wants to give you the links..
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redbull123 said:
Use Revone to s-off and unlock, change CID from H3G__001 to HTC__001, flash the unbranded RUU, updates will appear when available on your device.
Use search for all of the above, unless someone else wants to give you the links..
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Thanks so much. Thats pretty much what I needed. So as I know that 4.2.2 is available on my HTC one, once I have done all of the above, I check for updates and it should download?

Don't expect any help on here mate.
I'm in the same position as you.
The reason why Three are taking long is because they're loading it with their logos and bloatware.
Let me know how you get on.
Will let you try it first, will then try it on mine

bob4544 said:
Don't expect any help on here mate.
I'm in the same position as you.
The reason why Three are taking long is because they're loading it with their logos and bloatware.
Let me know how you get on.
Will let you try it first, will then try it on mine
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Don't expect any help? This site is full of people helping - for free. The reason people sometimes don't answer is because they see and answer the same questions every day. Everything you both need is in my post above. As well as in about 10+ other tutorial threads if you would bother using the search at the top of the page..
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redbull123 said:
Don't expect any help? This site is full of people helping - for free. The reason people sometimes don't answer is because they see and answer the same questions every day. Everything you both need is in my post above. As well as in about 10+ other tutorial threads if you would bother using the search at the top of the page..
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My mum's a GP, if she ignored all the people who came in asking her the same questions every day, she'd be out of a job and would have some pretty sick patients

OP I appreciate you're new but you could have found the answer to your question yourself without posting this. You won't get any carrier updates from 3 until 3 release them, even if you have superbloodyunicornCID, isn't that obvious? All superCID does is allow you to bypass regional ROM restrictions. The only way you're going to get 4.2.2 before three release it is by unlocking your bootloader and flashing a stock 4.2.2 ROM. All you'll probably do messing about with your CID is brick your phone, and then you'll have to spam the forums more.

bob4544 said:
My mum's a GP, if she ignored all the people who came in asking her the same questions every day, she'd be out of a job and would have some pretty sick patients
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What's your mum got to do with anything? She gets paid £60k+ to not ignore people, the guys on here are giving help for free. Anyway, this is going off topic. Use the search and you'll find what you want.
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Hi. You will have to change your CID and whilst doing anything of this nature carries a risk, it's a very low one.
I too was stock brand with 3. Follow one of the many video guides to use revone and get s-off as suggested above. Then download the stock wwe (world wide English) RUU and follow the on-screen instructions. The one I used was a standard 1.28 version. Again, use one of the great guides on here to download adb and change your CID to htc__001. Bear in mind there are 2 underscores there. You're phone will then see a small update and then again will recognise the 4.2.2 update.
That's if you want everything official. Mike1986 has a great guide on all this as does vomer in the android development thread.
If you want to run a Rom using 4.2.2 then it's just as simple, I personally was using mike1986's android revolution.
It all sounds daunting but take your time and follow the guides and you will be fine. It's very difficult to brick these phones.
Always make a nandroid backup before doing anything just in case.
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^^great post.
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bob4544 said:
Don't expect any help on here mate.
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Don't expect any help???..... You've been an xda member for a few days and already you're making comments like that... unbelievable.
There are a lot of guys here willing to help anybody and everybody but I guess your chances of getting future help have dropped significantly now.

I am new to this and have some questions

I have a an HTC one for sprint running the 4.3 jellybean firmware. I am looking into rooting and everything. I just have a question for after I root. Will I be able to use the viperone Rom and a custom kernal with viperone so I can use the HTC logo as a 3rd button. Excuse my lack of knowledge. I have always used ios and just said he'd over to droid and coukdnt be happier.
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flacers said:
I have a an HTC one for sprint running the 4.3 jellybean firmware. I am looking into rooting and everything. I just have a question for after I root. Will I be able to use the viperone Rom and a custom kernal with viperone so I can use the HTC logo as a 3rd button. Excuse my lack of knowledge. I have always used ios and just said he'd over to droid and coukdnt be happier.
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Best place to be would be in the viper one thread. Afaik there are issues with Sprint, as i said though, that is the best place to ask.
So long as you are in a position to flash a rom, obtaining one with the ability to use the HTC logo as a menu key shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334294

There are generally less roms available for Sprint phones due to the use of CDMA (Verizon & Sprint) 3G technology as opposed to GSM (AT&T & TMo). There are parts of CDMA that make it harder to make roms for the phones until they release all their sources, which carriers are very slow at doing.

dladz said:
Best place to be would be in the viper one thread. Afaik there are issues with Sprint, as i said though, that is the best place to ask.
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He can't post there yet, as he hasn't got 10 posts. Seems like this is overlooked all too easily
flacers said:
Will I be able to use the viperone Rom and a custom kernal with viperone
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Not yet, but you could have found the answer to that question in the very first post of the Viper ROM thread ...
flacers said:
so I can use the HTC logo as a 3rd button.
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With custom kernels that is no problem at all.
Cheers, Ingo =;->

Curly060 said:
He can't post there yet, as he hasn't got 10 posts. Seems like this is overlooked all too easily
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I'm fully aware that at that present time he couldn't post in the forum, however if he want's to have more and more help then he will need to make some posts won't he?

Gpe device running sense roms?

Can I flash sense based roms on the Google play edition ? I know you can do gpe based roms on sense devices but I can't find any info on what happens the other way. Thanks.

Bump, probably trading for this tomorrow so I would really like an answer today. Does anyone know?
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d11dog11 said:
Can I flash sense based roms on the Google play edition ? I know you can do gpe based roms on sense devices but I can't find any info on what happens the other way. Thanks.
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Not as far as i am aware, you will have to go through a few hoops unlocking bootloader s-off - firmware change to sense etc, i have bricked
my device in the process as i have a current post up here asking for help, gonna get M8 tomorrow, so we are in similar circumstances !

rrat said:
Not as far as i am aware, you will have to go through a few hoops unlocking bootloader s-off - firmware change to sense etc, i have bricked
my device in the process as i have a current post up here asking for help, gonna get M8 tomorrow, so we are in similar circumstances !
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I know it needs s off and custom recovery and all that. I just mean once I have it ready to flash roms, is there any reason I can't flash a sense rom?
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d11dog11 said:
I know it needs s off and custom recovery and all that. I just mean once I have it ready to flash roms, is there any reason I can't flash a sense rom?
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I am trying to do that now and i am stuck on the bootloader !!! Bricked, ! You can give it a try but am not a novice and i am stuck with a bricked
GPE version phone, if i was you, sell your working variant GPE on Gumtree, Ebay and go from there ! Good luck

Come on folks. Do your research.
A GPE One's hardware is identical to the AT&T carrier-locked/branded or Developer Edition or "International" (WWE) unlocked/unbranded phones.
Any of them can be turned into any of the others by (carefully) writing to the necessary partitions.
Once any of these phones is S-OFF you can easily run any of the ROMs intended for any of the others.
In fact, you can use "firmware" intended for one while running another, although I would advise you understand what "flashing firmware" really means before making any firm conclusions there.
Anyway, short answer to the OP, yes if you're S-OFF and do a little reading, you can flash a variety of Sense ROMs.
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NxNW said:
Come on folks. Do your research.
A GPE One's hardware is identical to the AT&T carrier-locked/branded or Developer Edition or "International" (WWE) unlocked/unbranded phones.
Any of them can be turned into any of the others by (carefully) writing to the necessary partitions.
Once any of these phones is S-OFF you can easily run any of the ROMs intended for any of the others.
In fact, you can use "firmware" intended for one while running another, although I would advise you understand what "flashing firmware" really means before making any firm conclusions there.
Anyway, short answer to the OP, yes if you're S-OFF and do a little reading, you can flash a variety of Sense ROMs.
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That was the answer I was expecting and I thank you.
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Next question, do I have to worry about s off like I did on my Verizon version or does the old fastboot oem unlock work like a nexus?
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d11dog11 said:
Next question, do I have to worry about s off like I did on my Verizon version or does the old fastboot oem unlock work like a nexus?
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Unlock is not the same as S-OFF.
You can do a lot with just being unlocked, but at some point you probably want S-OFF.
I didn't buy my phone from Google, so I don't know if unlocking is as simple as using a fastboot command like on a Nexus.
If not, you will have to unlock like everyone else. You can go to htcdev.com and/or do it as part of the S-OFF process.
Just to review the obvious, unlocking your phone in this way will erase everything personal on it including your pictures, your music, everything.
Backup your stuff.
To go all the way S-OFF, you first need to find out your HBOOT version. Most GPE phones have 1.54 right now.
Then decide which S-OFF exploit might work for you.
Read the rumrunner and firewater threads very carefully before doing anything. Always read the OP several times and then peruse the last two or pages of activity in any thread before making any conclusions.
Good luck.
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GPE Hboot unlocks just like a nexus with Fastboot OEM Unlock. A token from htc dev is not required.
Still going to need to use an exploit to gain S-OFF
NxNW said:
Unlock is not the same as S-OFF.
You can do a lot with just being unlocked, but at some point you probably want S-OFF.
I didn't buy my phone from Google, so I don't know if unlocking is as simple as using a fastboot command like on a Nexus.
If not, you will have to unlock like everyone else. You can go to htcdev.com and/or do it as part of the S-OFF process.
Just to review the obvious, unlocking your phone in this way will erase everything personal on it including your pictures, your music, everything.
Backup your stuff.
To go all the way S-OFF, you first need to find out your HBOOT version. Most GPE phones have 1.54 right now.
Then decide which S-OFF exploit might work for you.
Read the rumrunner and firewater threads very carefully before doing anything. Always read the OP several times and then peruse the last two or pages of activity in any thread before making any conclusions.
Good luck.
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[Q] Several Questions Please Help

I bought an HTC One (M7) second hand. The previous owner had rooted the device among other things.
It's currently working on Rogers network.
Can you help me find out what the original software version/carrier was on it?
I was thinking of using the latest Rogers RUU but I don't want to wreck anything.
Is there anything that may hinder me from using the RUU?
The phone shows, S-On, *Tampered*, *Unlocked*
Please give me any advice you can and I can clarify anything you need.
I have experience flashing roms on other phones this one seems more complicated.
My main goal is to have a stable Android 4.4+ on my device.
Thanks!

rwelsh09 said:
I bought an HTC One (M7) second hand. The previous owner had rooted the device among other things.
It's currently working on Rogers network.
Can you help me find out what the original software version/carrier was on it?
I was thinking of using the latest Rogers RUU but I don't want to wreck anything.
Is there anything that may hinder me from using the RUU?
The phone shows, S-On, *Tampered*, *Unlocked*
Please give me any advice you can and I can clarify anything you need.
I have experience flashing roms on other phones this one seems more complicated.
My main goal is to have a stable Android 4.4+ on my device.
Thanks!
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I would leave it that way.
there are many good roms out there.
I use MaximusHD Rom it a good stable rom. with ota updates and many nice tweaks and customization.

Quipp said:
I would leave it that way.
there are many good roms out there.
I use MaximusHD Rom it a good stable rom. with ota updates and many nice tweaks and customization.
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You're saying I should leave it alone and just flash a custom Rom vs a stock one?
I actually like that idea.
But, if I wanted to go stock in the future could I just use the RUU or would I need to do some other changes first?
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rwelsh09 said:
You're saying I should leave it alone and just flash a custom Rom vs a stock one?
I actually like that idea.
But, if I wanted to go stock in the future could I just use the RUU or would I need to do some other changes first?
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Yeah just install a custom rom.
I need to go back to stock for warranty still trying to figure out what to do execty.
there are some guides on how to do that. but since you have a second hand I don't think you will have to ever go back to stock for warranty issues
http://www.htc1guru.com/guides/return-stock-guide/

stuck in bootloop
help! im stuck in a bootloop and my phone is locked en Son what to do?