I currently have the JB based SweetRom v7 installed on my Galaxy Note.
Recently it was pointed out to me by a friend that CM based ROMs have a better functionality and are easier to use. Me, never having used a CM based ROM (not even on a friend's phone), am kind of in a dilemma whether or not to switch.
It would be of great help if you could help me out with the Pros and Cons of both JB based and CM based ROMs and if I should give CM a try. Also, a list (If possible) about the features which might not work/are absent from CM based ROMs..
Also, an elaborate guide to switching from JB to CM and a ROM suggestion for a first-time CM user will be very helpful.
Thanks in advance guys.
aurator said:
I currently have the JB based SweetRom v7 installed on my Galaxy Note.
Recently it was pointed out to me by a friend that CM based ROMs have a better functionality and are easier to use. Me, never having used a CM based ROM (not even on a friend's phone), am kind of in a dilemma whether or not to switch.
It would be of great help if you could help me out with the Pros and Cons of both JB based and CM based ROMs and if I should give CM a try. Also, a list (If possible) about the features which might not work/are absent from CM based ROMs..
Also, an elaborate guide to switching from JB to CM and a ROM suggestion for a first-time CM user will be very helpful.
Thanks in advance guys.
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I'll answer part of your question. If you switch to a CM-based ROM, you won't be able to use S Pen-based apps such as the S Note, as it is tightly integrated into Touchwiz.
4.1.2 JB LT4 Union ROM v7, LT3 Modem, PhilZ LT4 kernel, Carrier: AT&T (US)
Will i not be able to use only the apps or the S-Pen as a whole?
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Will i not be able to use only the apps or the S-Pen as a whole?
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You would not be able to use Samsung applications for S-pen but you can use their alternatives from play store, also FM does not work but you can use Spirit FM, No Wi-Fi Direct but you can use the alternatives from play store.
Edit: Just so that you know, CM based roms are much faster and smother than the TW or stock rom. Also has lot more customisation to it compared to TW. TW also has customization but you will have to apply then or use a customized TW rom.
aurator said:
I currently have the JB based SweetRom v7 installed on my Galaxy Note.
Recently it was pointed out to me by a friend that CM based ROMs have a better functionality and are easier to use. Me, never having used a CM based ROM (not even on a friend's phone), am kind of in a dilemma whether or not to switch.
It would be of great help if you could help me out with the Pros and Cons of both JB based and CM based ROMs and if I should give CM a try. Also, a list (If possible) about the features which might not work/are absent from CM based ROMs..
Also, an elaborate guide to switching from JB to CM and a ROM suggestion for a first-time CM user will be very helpful.
Thanks in advance guys.
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Yep, as already was said here, the spen apps, and functionality like scrolling, hovering stuff doesn't work.
Not every ROM is the same, so ones can be faster and others slower.
If You would like to have many many options I would recommend You to flash the jellybam ROM. It's slower but greater.
You may also try android 4.3
Okay, So I finally decided to go with JB 4.2.2 SuperNexus ROM.
I'm still confused about how to flash it. I've gone through the procedure and I understand it all but I'm now sure how to Switch from Philz recovery to CWM recovery?
I know this sounds stupid but this is the only thing keeping me from flashing the CM Rom.
Do I flash a CM based kernel to change from Philz recovery to CWM or is there something more?
Help will be greatly appreciated!
As for note the recovery is in the kernel, you will need to flash a cm kernel.
But you could directly flash it using philz recovery. When the rom installs it will install cm kernel and overwrite philz kernel.
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nokiamodeln91 said:
As for note the recovery is in the kernel, you will need to flash a cm kernel.
But you could directly flash it using philz recovery. When the rom installs it will install cm kernel and overwrite philz kernel.
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So I just need to flash the ROM and Gapps through Philz recovery to get it working?
All that head-banging went in vain, I guess -_-
Thanks a ton!
it wont go in vain.. will come handy some day,. there was an issue with Philz recovery not able to install CM/AOSP roms.. (error 7). which was resolved in the latter updates,, if you get the same error ... then flash a CM kernel first and then reboot recovery and flash the rom.
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Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm still learning about ROMs and Kernels.
Before I installed JB Ultimate N7000 XXLS7 Jellybean 4.1.2 v4, I had the Hydracore universal kernel installed.
The JB ROM comes packaged with its own kernel. Is there any reason why I should re-install Hydracore?Is there any advantage to doing this at this stage?
The only change I can see wanting to make to my phone in the foreseeeable future is to try out the official Sangsung Jellybean ROM when it finally gets released as this may include features or apps not in the 4.1.2 v4 and I would like to compare.
Thanks and reagrds
Trevor
which version of Hydracore were you refering to ? if it is compatible with LS7 ( not too sure about that) then the OC version of it will give you the ability to overclock if you are a fan of that feature.
most continue on Phillz ls7 kernel, its the only one which allows the multi-window feature in ls7 to work
hydracore is not compatible with any leak jb based roms. install only if you want your phone not to boot
Many thanks for your reply.
The zip file I have is GL_HYDRACORE_v5-4_STD.zip.
Since, I've no interest in over clocking, it doesn't sound as if there is any reason to re-install this Kernel and nokiamodeln91 says it will cause the phone not to boot anyway.
I just thought having read the claims made by the develope about it being compatible with ANY ROM and all that, that it might offer some advantage if I want to change ROM later.
You mention Phillz Is7 kernel as the only one allowing the multi-window feature to work. Didn't know I hadn't got MW (Duhh!). So would you recommend installing that to make that feature work? I'll do some reading up about that kernel after this.
Thanks again.
Trevor
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which version of Hydracore were you refering to ? if it is compatible with LS7 ( not too sure about that) then the OC version of it will give you the ability to overclock if you are a fan of that feature.
most continue on Phillz ls7 kernel, its the only one which allows the multi-window feature in ls7 to work
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sacentre said:
Many thanks for your reply.
The zip file I have is GL_HYDRACORE_v5-4_STD.zip.
Since, I've no interest in over clocking, it doesn't sound as if there is any reason to re-install this Kernel and nokiamodeln91 says it will cause the phone not to boot anyway.
I just thought having read the claims made by the develope about it being compatible with ANY ROM and all that, that it might offer some advantage if I want to change ROM later.
You mention Phillz Is7 kernel as the only one allowing the multi-window feature to work. Didn't know I hadn't got MW (Duhh!). So would you recommend installing that to make that feature work? I'll do some reading up about that kernel after this.
Thanks again.
Trevor
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Which kernel you are currently on? If you haven't installed any kernel manually, that means you already have Philz kernel, which comes by default with Ultimate JB v4..
Yes, of course, you're right. I just didn't recognise the name of the Kernel. Sorry.
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Which kernel you are currently on? If you haven't installed any kernel manually, that means you already have Philz kernel, which comes by default with Ultimate JB v4..
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check out the multi-window feature which is the hallmark of ls7 , some ls7 rom OPs have videos on it , learn how to enable it. its KEWL
Thanks. All working fine.
O K so i have just flashed Philz Safe Rom XXLRK-XEU from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191 to my note and everything seems as it should but i am a little confused as to what roms i can apply. Firstly apologies if this is in the wrong place my head is a bit all over the place after reading a lot this morning deciding if it is safe to start rooting/flashing my note, my only previous experience of this was through odin for my sgs2 so i am new to the note scene.
Ideally i would love to put paranoid android on from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1662802 but i am cautious that the install logs states not to install this rom from a stock kernal which is pretty much was philz kernal is isnt it ???
if anyone can help a newbie to the note scene out i would be greatly appreciated as i am getting confused going through all the searches i have done this morning
Hope you can helpo - cheers
KV3
when you flashed Philz Safe Rom XXLRK-XEU.. your note is already rooted now.
This kernel is safe and you can flash the PA rom with no issues. Just follow the procedure in the PA thread.
nokiamodeln91 said:
when you flashed Philz Safe Rom XXLRK-XEU.. your note is already rooted now.
This kernel is safe and you can flash the PA rom with no issues. Just follow the procedure in the PA thread.
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Thank you - i will check it out and report back
Is this the case with all roms or just the PA rom, am i to presume that the "safe" kernal is just that and i can go and try out a few roms just as i did with my sgs2 ?
Thanks
KV3
Yes.. but when you flash a new rom, the kernel will change to whats included in the rom. In between if you choose to flash stock ICS again, need to take caution to move to safe kernel again
thanks again for the quick responses - is it best practise to always reflash a safe kernal after the rom has been installed, so in the case of me flashing PA rom i can then reflash Philz safe kernal - i am sure i will get to grips with it all there just seems to be more risks involved with the note / ICS than when i was working with my sgs2
Cheers
No. All custom roms will have a safe kernel in built. Philz won't work with custom roms as it's a stock kernel. Best is hydracore but that does not work with the JB leaks of Samsung TW
all up and running and everything seems great with the PA rom - no complaints here yet but i havent had much chance to play with things with work and all that other stuff so thanks again nokiamodeln91 i have clicked your thanks button for all your help
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all up and running and everything seems great with the PA rom - no complaints here yet but i havent had much chance to play with things with work and all that other stuff so thanks again nokiamodeln91 i have clicked your thanks button for all your help
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Edit your thread title and add [SOLVED] or [RESOLVED] so people don't read about the issue that is fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32005429&postcount=1
I have a stock LSZ Note N7000 with philz touch recovery... I am not 100% sure but I mostly have the emmc brick bug.. I have decided to Factory Reset it and flash a new rom (As the rom installation procedure asks me to do so).. So my question is can I safely Factory Reset from Phillz touch Recovery.. And ..Which of the 2 following rom is better..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2115167
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906396
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I have a stock LSZ Note N7000 with philz touch recovery... I am not 100% sure but I mostly have the emmc brick bug.. I have decided to Factory Reset it and flash a new rom (As the rom installation procedure asks me to do so).. So my question is can I safely Factory Reset from Phillz touch Recovery.. And ..Which of the 2 following rom is better..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2115167
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906396
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Yes, you can safely factory reset on Philz kernel :good:
2nd question is a wrong question to be asked here on XDA, as it is Best rom question. Also, I have not used both, so I cannot answer that question. Sorry
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Yes, you can safely factory reset on Philz kernel :good:
2nd question is a wrong question to be asked here on XDA, as it is Best rom question. Also, I have not used both, so I cannot answer that question. Sorry
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I am very sorry If I violated any of the rules by best I just meant a feature like comparission maybe like verus thing. Because their Features arent listed so clearly.. more so like someone to point out the difference beetween the two...
Look the paranoid android will be a stable ROM but you'll have more features in the other hybrid ROM. It's your choice. ROMs by beerbong are very good and stable
I'd personally recommend you the P.A.C. ROM also by beerbong. It has all the features you look in a custom ROM, AOKP, CM, PA. PAC ROM is the way...
Hi Varad297,
I would recommend that Rom too, currently using it on my ZTE Blade and on my HP Touchpad and love it.... I plan to upgrade my ZTE Blade to a N7000 come October and been asking a few questions as I am new to this beast (N7000 and all its bricking problems) but not new to Android...
I asked a question a while ago, but still waiting for it to be answered so perhaps you could advise as you know this ROM.
The N7000 I will be getting will come with Vodafone UK official stock JB rom, (Android 4.1.2 I believe). However i want to take it to PAC 22:40 (based on Android 4.2.2).
However I am confused as to which Philz recovery kernel I would need? And how (what to look for) in the kernel when choosing...? Philz seems to be the most recommended one, but there are so many to choose from....
thanks, Lister
You mean which Philz kernel you'd need to flash PAC? I flash my ROMs on the CWM recovery as i do not trust the Philz kernel doue to some problem while flashing certainAOSP ROMs on the CWM-based recovery provided with the Philz kernel. I'd rather suggest you yo flash ROMs on a CWM recovery like that which comes with the CM kernel.
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Look the paranoid android will be a stable ROM but you'll have more features in the other hybrid ROM. It's your choice. ROMs by beerbong are very good and stable
I'd personally recommend you the P.A.C. ROM also by beerbong. It has all the features you look in a custom ROM, AOKP, CM, PA. PAC ROM is the way...
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Well, Is there a TW based rom with most of the S4 & note 2 features yet having the PIE.. Cause I just cant live without Pie now
hifiadi said:
Well, Is there a TW based rom with most of the S4 & note 2 features yet having the PIE.. Cause I just cant live without Pie now
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if you are rooted you can add S4 and Note 2 features yourself (pretty easy) from Themes and Apps section. if you still want TW rom then you can try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970626
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if you are rooted you can add S4 and Note 2 features yourself (pretty easy) from Themes and Apps section. if you still want TW rom then you can try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970626
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Assume I install the ROM u suggested how can I then get the hybrid settings and pie..
You have the zip files for TW launcher along with tweaks in it like AccuWeather widget n stuff, all flashable in recovery. Do visit the apps n themes section
Sorry if this gets asked a lot, but I have just checked for the brickbug and I have it. I looked on the wiki but the links are dead except for a couple of guides and I don't know which ones are reliable.
Is there a guide that will help me root and flash CM or PA? I've done similar with a SGS2, so I know what I'm doing, I just don't know which kernels are safe to use or which method to use to not destroy my Note.
Get a root-kernel from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
flash it from recovery and you will get root. which kernel to choose is in the thread too.
once this kernel is installed you it will be safer to flash different roms.
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Get a root-kernel from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901191
flash it from recovery and you will get root. which kernel to choose is in the thread too.
once this kernel is installed you it will be safer to flash different roms.
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Thanks that worked perfectly and simply.
Just have a couple more quick questions: I used to use a LINARO/SABERMOD CM build on my SGS2, is there anything equivalent for the Note?
Also is there anything close to Dorimanx in terms of features? That was a great kernel on SGS2.
I went with CM 10.2 btw.
There is nothing optimised. No best rom or kernel. See what suits you better. Roms like PA and PAC have lots of customizations and kernels like NX has lot of tweaking avaliable.
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Hi guys, I am new to this Forum.. I wanted to root my GT-N7000. So i searched the forums and i followed the guide of Dr.ketan and used the recommended method ( 1A - Flashing safe kernal with CWM recovery with touch 5 ). Had a bootloop on second restart, ( did reset and rooted the phone using the 1B method flashing SuperSU and Busybox ) Nevertheless successfully rooted my phone.
Now i wanna try Custom ROMs..Is there any precautions to be considered other than Nandroid backup?.. Also i have only a 2GB memory card.. Would it be enough to make Nandroid Backup?..
I also read by Installing Custom ROMs, we will lose Stock apps ( Since apps like S Note need some TW kernal ).. Is there anyway to Port or install or Mod available to install stock apps like SNote and Splanner in Custom ROMs?..
Finally, will the SPen work with Custom ROMs??.. I mean will the Custom ROMs for Note will have the Kernals Inbuilt for SPen or we have to install the Kernals required?..
Thanks a lot for viewing this thread and Thanks in Advance for your replies
PS:- Please excuse me, if the above questions have been asked before, cuz i searched for it and couldn't find it or they were complicated for a noob like me!
For flashing custom roms you will first need a custom kernel with cwm and safe to flash from.
It depends on the ROM you want to flash.
Don't worry about the sd card size, you can make backups to internal sd also.
Custom rom based on touchwiz do come with the apps you mentioned. But if you are going to try AOSP&CM roms them they won't work as they need tw framework.
Kernels not required for spen. Framework. Roms based on Samsung firmware support spen but AOSP&CM roms will not. As a stylus it does work though. Not like popus you get on Samsung roms.
nokiamodeln91 said:
For flashing custom roms you will first need a custom kernel with cwm and safe to flash from.
It depends on the ROM you want to flash.
Don't worry about the sd card size, you can make backups to internal sd also.
Custom rom based on touchwiz do come with the apps you mentioned. But if you are going to try AOSP&CM roms them they won't work as they need tw framework.
Kernels not required for spen. Framework. Roms based on Samsung firmware support spen but AOSP&CM roms will not. As a stylus it does work though. Not like popus you get on Samsung roms.
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I had already flashed Philz safe kernal with CWM.. So I dont need to flash kernals if the Custom ROMs are based on CWM right?.. and for the Spen to work, i just have to find Custom ROMs based on samsung firmware support? or Custom ROMs based on TW?..
Thanks for your help
If you have flashed philz kernel then you should be good to flash most of the roms except 4.4 as they need newer version of cwm. Eg raw kernel.
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If you have flashed philz kernel then you should be good to flash most of the roms except 4.4 as they need newer version of cwm. Eg raw kernel.
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Thanks a lot.. I have one more question ( pls bare with me )..
If for eg.. i wanna download this SuperBean v1.5 XXLT6.. The last 5 letters, what exactly are they?.. My mobile Build No ends with:- DDLSC and my Baseband version ends with :- DDLS6...
Does this last 5 letters of Superbean ( XXLT6 ) have anything to do with my Build No or Baseband version?.. When i downloaded the Philz touch 5 CMW recovery with safe kernels i Noticed, he had seperate files for seperate Build Nos..
So do i have to check the Custom ROMs for my Build Nos or is it only for kernels and CMW?..
Thanks for your help
Those are roms build for different regions. You can flash any build number. It's up to the developers on which rom version is his ROM based upon.
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Those are roms build for different regions. You can flash any build number. It's up to the developers on which rom version is his ROM based upon.
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Thanks a lot man
One more thing to do before installing a custom rom is to BACKUP YOUR EFS FOLDER.
Or do not do it and your phone could end as a small tablet/big mp3 player.
Unlikely, but i bought one with damaged EFS folder last week to replace my screen. It does happen.
Azeazezar said:
One more thing to do before installing a custom rom is to BACKUP YOUR EFS FOLDER.
Or do not do it and your phone could end as a small tablet/big mp3 player.
Unlikely, but i bought one with damaged EFS folder last week to replace my screen. It does happen.
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I have already taken EFS backup using EFS Pro and thanks man for the heads up