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Hopefully development for the Vivid won't be hurt too much by the release of the One X. Kind of sucks it's released only 6 months after we got our phone, but considering it won't come with a removable battery or a micro sd card slot and only 16GB of onboard memory, I think sticking with the Vivid isn't such a bad idea as long as development continues for the Holiday family.
Still hoping CM9 and Sense4.0 RILs get completed before the One X is released, sucks it's such a pain to get working, but much appreciation for those working on it.
Another point to be noted is similarly to what happened to the Vivid, the One X may have its bootloader locked for some time too and maybe be S-On. I'm only speculating unless there's news out there already.
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I thought the one x was supposed to have 32 gigs of memory? Either way I chose my vivid knowing this was right around the corner, no regret really. I'm sure the one x is nicer but no user replaceable battery was the deal breaker for me.
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I thought the one x was supposed to have 32 gigs of memory? Either way I chose my vivid knowing this was right around the corner, no regret really. I'm sure the one x is nicer but no user replaceable battery was the deal breaker for me.
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I think the international version has 32 GB of memory. Why they reduced it is strange. Also, the AT&T has a different processor so it can work with LTE, so I've read.
Yeah because nvidia screwed up (again) with tegra 3 and didn't optimize it for lte. But the new snapdragon supposedly blows it away anyway. No doubt the 16 gigs only would be a deal breaker for me. I mean the way Samsung partitioned my captivate, I could make do with that, they gave you 12 gigs! But both my flyer and vivid give you 8 gigs which isn't enough though I did notice that 4 gigs is partitioned for internal storage so I just never move apps anymore.
Of course my understanding is ics is supposed to do away with internal storage and just have one partition for everything... Doesn't apply to our phones because they were upgraded of course but maybe on the one x it will be that way and just give the user 14 gigs for apps and storage.
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I'm thinking about just getting the international version just so I can have the quad core and bragging rights. There's no LTE here in Delaware so I could live without that.
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Another point to be noted is similarly to what happened to the Vivid, the One X may have its bootloader locked for some time too and maybe be S-On. I'm only speculating unless there's news out there already.
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The international One X already has official bootloader unlock. So I doubt the AT&T version will not be unlockable.
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Why does htc lock there bootloader? My captivate was always unlocked. Really its my phone who cares what I do with it.
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Why does htc lock there bootloader? My captivate was always unlocked. Really its my phone who cares what I do with it.
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Samsung is cool. They ship with unlocked bootloaders. They hire Cyanogen guys. They work hand in hand with devs.
HTC on the other hand, has gone the opposite direction.
Never thought it'd happen but Samsung > HTC in terms of dev friendliness.
Yeah and i think it was may last year where htc said no more locked bootloaders yet out phones and the one series are still locked. Motorola pretty much did about the same thing. But man Samsungs are so friggen cheap feeling in comparison to htcs
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Whatever the case may be, the only thing I like on the OneX is the camera and Sense 4.0. If they can be ported to the Vivid, I'm sticking with it. Even when the OneX hits, I'm still probably going to push the Vivid to my customers. LoL. But I'll get to play with the OneX at least a week before it's officially released to the public.
I think the one series might be a big fail for HTC. The general buzz is people are irritated about no removable battery and no expandable storage and review sites are ripping sense 4.0 a new one. Honestly I don't get the trend of android phones leaning towards built in batteries myself. I can kind of understand the lack of expandable storage as ics is capable of having one master partition that can be used for app data and user storage, and obviously we're heading towards a cloud based future anyway. But the built in battery just sucks. It's why I bought a vivid and didn't wait for a one x.
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When they announced this phone I was excited and said that was going to be my next phone, but after buying an HTC flyer that was noticeably faster than my captivate, I just wanted a phone that could keep up and decided on a galaxy s2. Well my friend who has a Droid bionic convinced me that lte was worth it so I looked at the skyrocket. But the skyrocket was $200 and they had this lte HTC phone that had the exact same specs as the skyrocket but was only $99. So I got myself 2 of those one for me and my wife. And as the one x date came closer I had often wondered if I screwed up not waiting for it. Thank you HTC for making me realize I made the right choice!
The more I read about it the less appealing it is. First I didn't care about having an SD slot because with 32 gig your set anyway but now its confirmed, 16 gigs only 9 available to the user. They claimed better battery life but the euro model without lte is getting 10 hours on standby...can't imagine what lte would do to it. My vivid is pretty good when its not on lte, a battery sucker on lte but I have a solution: spare battery and external charger. My battery warning hits and a couple minutes later I'm at 100%. But not an option on the one x because the damn thing is built in? Did HTC miss the original Motorola Droid commercial? A user replaceable battery is supposed to be an advantage over the iPhone, no one wants a built in they deal with it because they have to.
Last gripe is sense 4.0 vs 3.6. Its not dramatically different its the same sense with a skin. Sense has actually grown on me quite a bit so its not necessarily a drawback but its not an advantage either. I've watched YouTube videos and most of the changes are skin deep. And the failed horribly too opting to use capacitive buttons instead of the ics action bar thats supposed to show as needed because since there is no menu button, a gigantic one pops up and takes away screen real estate as needed.
So I conclude the one x is just another phone and not a god send like everyone wants you to think it is. And I'm happy I chose the vivid instead.
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Thinking ahead, there will be a sad day when my trusty Incredible S kicks the bucket. So I've started looking for comparable phones seeing as I love this one so much, and my basic requirements are 4" screen size and hopefully HTC unless I can be convinced otherwise (I love Sense).
I think the Desire X is looking pretty great and is at the top of my list so far. http://www.htc.com/au/smartphones/htc-desire-x/
Any other suggestions? Or what will you be getting?
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Nexus , sgs3, one x
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Probably the next nexus, next top of the line Sony, samsung, or HTC
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Thinking ahead, there will be a sad day when my trusty Incredible S kicks the bucket. So I've started looking for comparable phones seeing as I love this one so much, and my basic requirements are 4" screen size and hopefully HTC unless I can be convinced otherwise (I love Sense).
I think the Desire X is looking pretty great and is at the top of my list so far. http://www.htc.com/au/smartphones/htc-desire-x/
Any other suggestions? Or what will you be getting?
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I would advise against the Desire X as a replacement for the Inc S. It probably wouldn't me much of an upgrade, if at all. The Desire X does have an S4 processor, but it's the lowest end S4 available and is nowhere near the performance levels of the S4's you find in the One X/S, North American GS3 etc. It also uses a significantly older CPU architecture in the Cortex A5, whereas our phone has a Cortex A8 CPU and modern dual cores/quad cores are based on the Cortex A9. The latest S4 processors are loosely based off the Cortex A15 which hasn't been released to the masses yet.
TLDR; Go with a Nexus phone or a higher end HTC than the desire X
Personally, I won't buy another HTC phone until they release a phone with on-screen buttons and 2GB of RAM. I'm hoping they make a phone like that, I really want another HTC.
I like Xperia S.
SGS3 though I don't see my IncS dying anytime soon lol. Ganna have to wait till my contact ends in 2013 Aug. Even then I think I'd be happy with SGS3 though new and better phones would be out by that time lol
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Agree, don't buy HTC desire x
I honestly think it's not an upgrade.
I am actually thinking of xiaomi phone haha, can't wait for the review once it's out. Another option is HTC one x
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I like the Sony nxt series the xperia t or the v
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I like the Sony nxt series the xperia t or the v
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I like xperia v.
Retina display, more responsive touch, water resistance, dual core beast, and 13 mp camera
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My next phone is going to be an htc one X. Nice phone and I'll still have text reflow.
I wonder why text reflow is not implemented by default into Android.
Thanks for the info. Yeah I understand it wouldn't be much of an upgrade if I chose the Desire X, but I love the incredible s so much I wanted something similar. I really don't want anything larger than 4", I have my Nexus 7 for things that require a larger screen so that seems to limit my options to mid-range phones these days.
ZaySk.. that's crazy that it uses older CPU architecture than the IncS :s why on earth would they do that?
maybe an iphone5?
Nah
I know you will hate me but my next phone is Nokia Lumia 920 I really liked it and very interested in New WinPhone8 OS
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I don't hate you, those new Nokia windows phones look awesome
Just that with windows phone 7, they didn't update after 7.5 to 8.0
Its like us being updated from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5, but not receiving 4.0
At least we had custom ROMs
Until Microsoft can prove that they care about older devices, I won't be buying windows
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Well I have one more year of warranty, so guess if it dies it will be a replacement.
But if it die maybe an HTC One S.Don't like the size of the X.In fact I'd like something 4'..
This with HTC quality, replaceable battery + micro sd would be perfect
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Well I have one more year of warranty, so guess if it dies it will be a replacement.
But if it die maybe an HTC One S.Don't like the size of the X.In fact I'd like something 4'..
This with HTC quality, replaceable battery + micro sd would be perfect
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I have always liked the meizu mx, best looking phone on the market imo
If it had dev support I might have bought one
I look at all these new phones, but in reality I'm not getting one until like may next year
Venom and project x transformer will add life to our device
And if we get proper source built jb with the 3.x linux kernel, that will too
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Mmm the Windows phones do look slick but, like Markj said, Microsoft and Nokia's lack of support for their older products means I won't be getting one.
The next htc android flagship or the next nexus phone
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I'm currently thinking of buying a Galaxy Nexus. It's pretty cool and my IncS is about to get its USB-Port broken but I can still sell it to my brother when it's working. But I'm not sure. A One X would be the best thing that could happen to me but I really cannot afford that. I just hope my IncS doesn't let me down so soon...
http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/
It says in there that we meet hardware specs and 2011 phones will be updated too....
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http://www.htc.com/www/help/android41faq/
It says in there that we meet hardware specs and 2011 phones will be updated too....
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hopefully. A dev on rootzwiki tried to port a htc one rom to the vivid with sense 4.0 and he couldnt. He said that the new sense was incompatible with our rill aka our radio. Now htc might be able to change that but you never know.
Only time will tell...but being a 2011 phone we are more towards the bottom of the list...but near the top of the bottom of the list since this phone is only 2 months away from being a 2012 phone...
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The One Line (X+, X(L), S, and V) will get it first. Then more than likely Desire X and the EVO 4G LTE, as those are the the only other 2012 HTC Androids with a Snapdragon S4. The only other 2012 devices, the Desire V and Desire C, are Snapdragon S1 and I doubt HTC is going to try to put JB on that (however if they do, that's a good sign for us). Then we hit the 2011 devices - The Explorer (another S1 device), then the Rezound, Vivid, Amaze, Sensation, EVO 3D, Sensation XE, all Snapdragon S3 devices, and in my opinion, the next worthy contenders for JB (the Rezound and Vivid being the most recently released). All other 2011 devices are S2 (Sensation XL, Incredible S, Desire S). Will we ever see an official carrier release? HIGHLY doubted. But if HTC really cares and they actually try - there should be some leaked RUUs to play with
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IRL - I bet they only give releases for S4 devices and say screw the rest of us.
There is a variant (very small market) of the One S (codename VilleC2), that is actually a Snapdragon S3. This is the device from which Rafy was trying to port Sense 4.0. Since then, they've also gotten a ICS 4.0.4/Sense 4.1 RUU (in football's thread) as well. I don't know what the actual problem was with Sense 4.0 not supporting our RIL, but if there are any porters out there who want to give 4.1 a shot, that's your best bet. And IF HTC gives them JB, again, a good place from which to start trying a port.
I think we have a good chance. Our device was the first AT&T device to get ics officially, maybe even the first snapdragon s3 device too. TBH the sensation without a doubt will get it, and the vivid follow shortly. The rezound is most likely never since verizon=noupdate4u
I am seriously not holding my breath for this.
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yea i'm not either remember this phone is made by htc which likes to screw over the users
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yea i'm not either remember this phone is made by htc which likes to screw over the users
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That...and unless you have a nexus you typically only get one upgrade -regardless of the manufacturer
My Samsung infuse got one upgrade, my dads Motorola atrix got one upgrade...and every device I read about seems to only get one upgrade...
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My captivate got 2
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I just posted this as it looked interesting how HTC worded it. I really hope MG cracks the mic issue in CM10 as I don't want to have to reinstall the factory software and redo the rooting process just to get JB because it'll be a ****ty sense whored out JB.
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I'm just hoping the update doesn't take to long if we do get it
If it were up to htc I'd say sure but it's not. AT&T has the final say in this. Originally htc had planned an ics update for the desire HD that was later canceled however the identical American model, the inspire 4G never even got a shot. AT&T wants you to buy a one x or one x+ so I don't see it happening
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If it were up to htc I'd say sure but it's not. AT&T has the final say in this. Originally htc had planned an ics update for the desire HD that was later canceled however the identical American model, the inspire 4G never even got a shot. AT&T wants you to buy a one x or one x+ so I don't see it happening
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Still leads room for leaks or other variants...although I'm still not holding my breath for this...
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It would help greatly with cm10 development. I definitely want it. Jelly bean is a very nice update, and would speed up our phones greatly, as well as giving us a fast and stable Google now. And notifications are so much better.
Maybe the raider, velocity, or holiday might get it. Really or is unfair how carriers block these updates from us. Not giving me an update is just inconveniencing me, because I'm not going to spend money on their absurd no contract prices. And with the nexus 4 out there and me considering it heavily, they are just going to loose out on future upgrades and contracts from me.
I usually get $500 in Christmas cash every year, but still I hate spending most of it on a phone, so much other things I'd rather buy, not to mention I have credit card debt I'd like to take out. Here's hoping for a breakthrough in the next month, either an announcement for an update or a cracked ril opening the door for aosp/aokp/and cyanogenmod
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I wouldn't hold my breath, this phone bombed pretty heavily in a lot of markets. Here in Canada they were giving them away for free on contract by like, February.
We'll know whether we're getting it as soon as one a phone on AT&T gets updated to Jelly Bean. Our phone was the first phone on AT&T (and america) to receive an ICS update, and with it they announced every phone that would be getting an ICS update. So I imagine they'll follow suit with this update
No way At&t is making me a buy a phone without an sdcard slot and non removable battery, just for jellybean. The hox or hox+ ain't worth the money. I'd at least want to see sense 4 on our phone, even if it is ics.
The one x+ has 64 gigs of storage, why would you need an sd? I kinda like it but after my vivid experience I'd only buy an htc again if they made a nexus. Besides I'm over custom ui's
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The one x+ has 64 gigs of storage, why would you need an sd? I kinda like it but after my vivid experience I'd only buy an htc again if they made a nexus. Besides I'm over custom ui's
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Some people have a lot of music/movies/pics...and if they are an audiophile, or soon to be an audio phile they won't settle for anything under 320kbpseaning the average song is 10mb...so 100 songs is about 1 GB...6400 is all you can get with 64gbs...and that's if your only sticking with 320kbps, most audiophiles will go with flac which is an even bigger size...so your looking at just a couple thousand songs on 64gb, and then if you want to have a ROM or two handy, that's half a GB right there, what about some room for camera pics and videos...you'd probably want at least a gb free for that...apps? I think you get the point, for the average user 64gb is enough...but to those who will only use the highest quality music/video files cause they can hear/see the differnce between low quality ones...then 64gb isn't even close to enough....
I'm not an audiophile myself, but I'm close to being one, I have a nice pair of actual headphones, and if the music is under 320kbps I will not download or buy it...listen to an iTunes 128kbps version of a song, then listen to a 320kbps version and you'll understand why...the sound is a lot more full in 320kbps...I have a total of 46gbs on my infuse cause I have a 32gb SD card...not even close to enough, still missing quite a bit of my music, I only have 628mb free which I save for the occasion that I may need to download something...
Anyways...I guess you don't need more then 64gb, but that's one reason a lot of people would want more than 64gb, cause we are audio/video snobs lol
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I used to have a zune 32 gig and 16-20 was all the more I ever kept it full, if you need more than that your probably not listening to all your music anyway. Every mp3 I have encoded from the cd used lame alt preset standard, variable bit rate, gives you the highest quality at the lowest size, should be good enough for anybody really.
Also until recently, the largest sd you could get was 32,so typically 48 gigs was the max you could get anyway
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1.is it worth hassle
2. is the snapdragon 800 that much better than the 600
3. anything else?
Can't comment on nexus but htc one is a beast andi won't suggest anyone to sell htc one for 4.4 as it's coming to htc one very soon. Like in a month's time or so.
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Or just convert to GPE and and maybe you can feel the Nexus 5 experience till a month
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I was also thinking the HTC one for the nexus 5, but idk. HTC One is an awesome phone, but I guess I want the latest tech if it means getting another phone without using extra money
Just wounding if HTC has learnt from their mistake yet as I am looking for phone on a budget for uni next year
100% likely. HTC will surely support the One for the coming year too
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Very likely
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Support for subversions of 4.4? YES.
Support for versions higher than 4.4? Less possible. Since HTC One already started from 4.1.2. Supporting 4.5 or something and above is already pushing it. Besides, they need to come out with newer models too.
The One X came out about a year before the One, and got updated just a few months ago. If there is another Android update within 8 months, I reckon we'll get it.