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[Q] [Port] SmoothRom for KFHD7

Can anyone port SmoothRom for the Kindle Fire HD 7? Now I already figured it may not be possible as someone would've provably already done it, but I decided to try it myself using the instructions in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908008
STATUS: FAIL. And I used Hashcode's CM10.1 and SmoothRom 5.2 for Nexus 7 by jamesst20. Don't know if its a sin, if it is I apologize, I wanted it for my personal use, I'm not a developer, more of a "trial and error fixer" and I gave it a shot before asking. I loved that ROM when I had my Nexus 7 as it was so lag free and ran...well...smooth. If anyone has any info at all whether its possible, whether there's any takers to the project or even if its impossible, I'm all ears, and it would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Hmm I don't know much about making a full ROM, but it might have something to do with the fact smoothrom is aokp based, and cm is aosp based. Then again we do have some aokp ROMs for kfhd, they built theirs from the source code though rather than the method in your link, if I remember right that is.. Hmmm...
Edit:After re-reading that tut it seems it also works on ROMs that are AOKP so idk. Maybe try basing it from a aokp ROM. This is really a bit more beyond me than I thought at first.
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stunts513 said:
Hmm I don't know much about making a full ROM, but it might have something to do with the fact smoothrom is aokp based, and cm is aosp based. Then again we do have some aokp ROMs for kfhd, they built theirs from the source code though rather than the method in your link, if I remember right that is.. Hmmm...
Edit:After re-reading that tut it seems it also works on ROMs that are AOKP so idk. Maybe try basing it from a aokp ROM. This is really a bit more beyond me than I thought at first.
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Thanks for the info. Do you know of any links to AOKP based ROMs for the KFHD7? I always used AOKP on my previous tablets etc and was looking for any AOKP based ROM for this device when I first planned on tossing in a custom ROM but I only got as far as CM10.1, CM10.2, MIUI port, and PAC ROM. So if you know any AOKP based ROMs links I would really appreciate it.
EDIT: Looked around, found nothing but this thread that never went anywhere.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285306&page=2
So I'm assuming 100% there are no AOKP based ROMs. If I knew how to compile a ROM, I'd do it. SmoothRom 5.2 was made for the Nexus 7 (well at least the one I was using) and the Nexus 7 and KFHD7 are nearly identical in a sense for example screen size, etc. So I know there must be even the slightest possibility.

This is aokp based...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355103, or at least it says it is, because its a mix of paranoid android and aokp and cm10.1 if I remember right, has some of the setting that aokp has if I remember right. I haven't ever used aokp or pac-man ROM, I prefer closer to stock, so maybe I misunderstand if that ROM is aokp based.
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stunts513 said:
This is aokp based...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355103, or at least it says it is, because its a mix of paranoid android and aokp and cm10.1 if I remember right, has some of the setting that aokp has if I remember right. I haven't ever used aokp or pac-man ROM, I prefer closer to stock, so maybe I misunderstand if that ROM is aokp based.
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Well it does have AOKP but Im more than sure it started with CM10 when it was being compiled. I just know that nobody has made an AOKP based rom for no reason, there must be some story behind why its been left out of the mix. I've switched to using ROM-PORTER-v3.6, and its more successful than that guide I mentioned as I actually made the ROM flashable ONLY when using stock Amazon OS as the base and then SmoothRom as the port. Flashes fine, boot image works, but its a total boot loop, so I must be getting closer. I also tried adding certain extra files mentioned in the guide I mentioned, but them it causes the ROM to fail the flash. Then I realized that the build.prop is still as it was on the Nexus 7 and if im not mistaking the thread i got the tool from did mention editing that. So I must give it a try. Maybe thatll solve the case?

Why do I find it funny your are converting the stock ROM to a custom aokp ROM... On the bright side it would maybe work in a similar manner to kinology where you still have amazon video access and such. Fix the build.prop and it might work idk, I'm sure if anything it would help, just make sure if you are replacing it without flashing it that u chmod it to 644.
If I had to take a wild guess at why there isn't a stock aokp ROM or any others, it would be because the lack of devs, not to say we have a lack in the sense we are producing ROMs, but I think hashcode laid out the groundwork for most of the other devs, but because it was a aosp base I guess it was more likely to attract aosp devs, because it seems like less work to me if you are staying at aosp. Not to mention technically the cm builds are still beta last I checked, maybe we might get some other aokp and aosp devs once it goes official. For instance I don't believe I have seen a stock aosp android os for kindle fire HD yet. Most of the above is speculation, just thought I'd mention that before someone says I have no idea what I'm talking about. xD
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Why do I find it funny your are converting the stock ROM to a custom aokp ROM... On the bright side it would maybe work in a similar manner to kinology where you still have amazon video access and such. Fix the build.prop and it might work idk, I'm sure if anything it would help, just make sure if you are replacing it without flashing it that u chmod it to 644.
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Believe me I know that I'm just juggling ROMs here with the possibility of being far off track and getting nowhere. Really dont kmow what I'm doimg at all. Just experimemting with trial and error to see if I make it somewhere. Even though I read that the base must be the same type as the port (AOKP to AOKP, CM to CM, etc) and that these certain things must be completely changed if not, etc etc, it doesnt hurt to try. No one else wants to do it, no one else has some info, then I must do as the saying goes: "if you want something done right, do it yourself." I have no clue how to create a AOKP rom out of thin air since theres really no AOKP based KFHD7 roms out there, so why not experiment with any other? My latest bigquestion is if AOKP is CM based in a way or two, how is it that the two combined isn't working out?

[Q] Usb Otg not working on Kindle Fire HD.

Please help. I have done a through search of the forums and found nothing on the subject. (Any search including "otg" returns results for "ota" updates.) The ability to use a flash drive as a kind of external hard drive was a MAJOR reason I rooted and installed a non-stock os. I have a Kindle Fire HD running twrp, cm10.2 and hashcode's 3.0.50+ kernel. I have tried both the "stickdrive" and "USB OTG Helper" apps with no luck. I was told in another thread that some ROMs will support USB OTG mounting but when I asked which ones I didn't get a response.
Thank you in advance.

Last I heard hashcode hasn't enabled otg in his kernel yet, and I think all ROMs use his kernel except stock amazon and kinology. You should wait for some other people to verify what I said first though because I am not 100% sure on this.
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stunts513 said:
Last I heard hashcode hasn't enabled otg in his kernel yet, and I think all ROMs use his kernel except stock amazon and kinology. You should wait for some other people to verify what I said first though because I am not 100% sure on this.
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What is "kinology"? I'd be willing to try it out and update as to the results if I knew where to download it.

Its in the android development section, but it uses the same kernel as stock amazon os, its basically Amazon's os, but modded.
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stunts513 said:
Its in the android development section, but it uses the same kernel as stock amazon os, its basically Amazon's os, but modded.
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I tried both of the apps I mentioned before I rooted/modded my KFHD with no luck. So, do I just need to wait till KitKat and CM11 come out?

Or just wait until hashcode gets otg working. I think he was going to work on otg after all the other bugs and such are worked out. Seems like waiting for cm 11 to have otg would take longer than waiting for the current version, because I'm guessing the new version will have a new kernel so some things will have to be redone, and bugs introduced. Personally I'm just hoping by the time the next android release is out we can still use a buggy flashplayer... Don't even get me started on that....
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stunts513 said:
Or just wait until hashcode gets otg working. I think he was going to work on otg after all the other bugs and such are worked out. ..."some things will have to be redone, and bugs introduced." ...we can still use a "buggy" flashplayer.
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Forgive me, why would one want to introduce bugs into a system?, and what is a "buggy" flash player? I thought bugs were glitches. Do you mean exploits?
Also, why do you use CM10.1? Is it more stable than CM10.2?

Eh well you don't want to introduce bugs into a system it just tends to happen when making something new while ironing the new problems out. That's why official releases of an os have these things fixed first usually before final release, though we tend to use alpha and beta ROMs a lot because some of us would rather have a buggy os than a amazon os. Not that hashcode's cm is that buggy anymore, he's worked out almost all the bugs I think. As for the buggy flash player, adobe stopped development a while back for flash player in ice cream sandwich, because they said html5 would be the future, even though so much of the net uses flash... Anyways the last flash player for ICS is kinda buggy on jellybean OS's, mainly because it wasn't designed for it, and some web browsers won't let u use the last version of flash because its buggy, like dolphin unless you download the modded version of the browser I found on the forums. One of the bugs I noticed is if I tap around in a video player too much it crashes the web browser. So no not exploits, just code that needs rewriting but will never happen since flash players is closed source. Ah as for me using cm 10.1, I just want to wait a few months until I'm sure that the apps in the market have stabilized, among other things, because some apps were having problems after the changes made in the new release caused certain apps to not work correctly. There's also a few other reasons like I heard about some of the libraries for the new version aren't optimized yet for our processor, and that there was a nasty bug with fstrim that could potentially hard brick our kindle by corrupting the emmc beyond repair. The bug that could do that isn't confirmed in the kindle fire HD, but it is said to affect the specific emmc that the kindle fire HD has. So yea there are a few things I'm waiting on before making the switch. Not to mention I'm happy with my os as-is right now.
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stunts513 said:
Ah as for me using cm 10.1, I just want to wait a few months until I'm sure that the apps in the market have stabilized, among other things, because some apps were having problems after the changes made in the new release caused certain apps to not work correctly. There's also a few other reasons like I heard about some of the libraries for the new version aren't optimized yet for our processor, and that there was a nasty bug with fstrim that could potentially hard brick our kindle by corrupting the emmc beyond repair. The bug that could do that isn't confirmed in the kindle fire HD, but it is said to affect the specific emmc that the kindle fire HD has. So yea there are a few things I'm waiting on before making the switch. Not to mention I'm happy with my os as-is right now.
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I hate to ask, but I'm still new to XDA and I'm still having a bit of trouble navigating. Would you post a link to where I can find CM10.1? Specifically the one meant for our KFTT? Thanks.

Here ya go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245335
If you want, try the tablet ui patch in my signature for the latest cm 10.1, I haven't had much feedback on it. It also contains the same link I just posted.
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stunts513 said:
Here ya go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2245335
If you want, try the tablet ui patch in my signature for the latest cm 10.1, I haven't had much feedback on it. It also contains the same link I just posted.
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So... I would use the "Latest"? And how would I go about implementing your tablet ui?
Sorry to keep bugging you. I feel like I'm being a bother.

The instructions are on the link in my SIG, u basically flash the file I attached after u flash cm and gapps, and yea use the latest.
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stunts513 said:
The instructions are on the link in my SIG, u basically flash the file I attached after u flash cm and gapps, and yea use the latest.
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Thank you. I appreciate the help.

Still no OTG
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I tried both of the apps I mentioned before I rooted/modded my KFHD with no luck. So, do I just need to wait till KitKat and CM11 come out?
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Well CM11 is out and still no OTG support for Kindle Fire HD. I sure wish that I could get this to work. I just don't know where to start.

New member here. I have the same problem -- KFHD7, CM11, no OTG. Did you ever figure this out?
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Beaker319 said:
Well CM11 is out and still no OTG support for Kindle Fire HD. I sure wish that I could get this to work. I just don't know where to start.
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To JeremySwags and Breaker319,
Did you guys ever figure this out? I'm ready to pitch this thing...
-L

[Q] will kindle fire hd 7/ tate get otg support?

just wondering whether the kindle fire hd 7 will get otg support, i know that most roms run hashcodes kernel and that it doesnt support it. I'm not demanding it or anything, i just want to know if its being considered? or in development? thanks. I want it for usb storage and controllers haha

luigirocks said:
just wondering whether the kindle fire hd 7 will get otg support, i know that most roms run hashcodes kernel and that it doesnt support it. I'm not demanding it or anything, i just want to know if its being considered? or in development? thanks. I want it for usb storage and controllers haha
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I heard a while back that it was coming soon but, well.... that was quite a while ago.
>>>Sent from my homebuilt TARDIS running Android 4.4... or maybe it's a rooted Kindle Fire HD running CyanogenMod 11<<<

Once I get my ROM rolled out I might try to compile a kernel with it enabled, as-is I don't have enough storage space available on my Linux partition to download the cm sources and I've messed with the innerds a little bit for my ROM so I'd rather go from hashcode's sources.
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stunts513 said:
Once I get my ROM rolled out I might try to compile a kernel with it enabled, as-is I don't have enough storage space available on my Linux partition to download the cm sources and I've messed with the innerds a little bit for my ROM so I'd rather go from hashcode's sources.
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I hope its soon I can't wait for otg support!

Few small questions before installing CM11

So I just got my Kindle Fire HD 2012 32 GB from Amazon.
Before I install CM11, I have a few small questions...
1. I really like the Dolby HD sound feature/improvement. Is this still usable/enabled within CM11 (or a similar alternative)?
2. I have firmware 7.4.9. Can I get any trouble using the install tutorial from the CyanogenMod wiki?
3. I read somewhere that CM11 runs slow on the KFHD compared T9 FireOS. Is this true?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: just fyi, yes I have a fastboot/recovery cable.

medeman said:
So I just got my Kindle Fire HD 2012 32 GB from Amazon.
Before I install CM11, I have a few small questions...
1. I really like the Dolby HD sound feature/improvement. Is this still usable/enabled within CM11 (or a similar alternative)?
2. I have firmware 7.4.9. Can I get any trouble using the install tutorial from the CyanogenMod wiki?
3. I read somewhere that CM11 runs slow on the KFHD compared T9 FireOS. Is this true?
Thanks in advance.
Edit: just fyi, yes I have a fastboot/recovery cable.
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I would downgrade the os to a earlier version as I have seen issues with people rooting the latest os. I also believe cm 11 is if anything faster than amazon os. I recommend it, I have used it myself for over a year and have no complaints.
Dolby is a bit iffy, I think hashcode tried to do some work on it but I don't remember how far it went because its closed source. I just use viper4android with cm 11 and its probably better than Dolby enhancements.
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[Q] Which build to install?

I've got an HD+ that has been sitting, not being used for at least 6 months...finally found the charger and fired it up today. I'd like to get the best recommended build installed on it for performance (including dealing with TRIM issues on the EMMC), etc. Currently I'm running:
10.1.3-ovation
Kernel: 3.0.31-green+
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Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm normally fine handling the install once I get there but there's always so many builds to choose from LOL!
Thanks!

stwallman said:
I've got an HD+ that has been sitting, not being used for at least 6 months...finally found the charger and fired it up today. I'd like to get the best recommended build installed on it for performance (including dealing with TRIM issues on the EMMC), etc. Currently I'm running:
10.1.3-ovation
Kernel: 3.0.31-green+
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Mon Sep 23 2013
Can someone point me in the right direction? I'm normally fine handling the install once I get there but there's always so many builds to choose from LOL!
Thanks!
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That is exactly the build I use. I have seen no need to upgrade to anything newer. It is stable and does everything I want it to do. And you can be in control of trim by getting the app Lagfree from the Play Store.
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Any suggestions on how to get the best performance? Still feels rather laggy to me...recommendations on launchers etc.?

SNAPSHOT M8 or M11
It is requested to flash snapshot m8 or m11. Other builds are having so many strange problems. M9 and M19 has problem of being slow and sluggish after 5 min usage and wont wake up after sleep.

stwallman said:
Any suggestions on how to get the best performance? Still feels rather laggy to me...recommendations on launchers etc.?
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FWIW, I am running CM11 snapshot M11 (& Nova Launcher) on my HD+ and it works pretty well for my use of the tablet (email/web surfing/video streaming (hulu/netflix)).
If you plan to upgrade from CM10 to CM11, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-tablet/general/how-to-updating-hd-hd-internal-emmc-to-t2863171 for info/pointers.

Going back to 10.1.3 from CM11. I seem to remember there's something i need to do besides a complete wipe, but I don't remember what it is.
Is there something else?
TIA
Ovation w/ TWRP 2.6.3

FirePsych said:
Going back to 10.1.3 from CM11. I seem to remember there's something i need to do besides a complete wipe, but I don't remember what it is.
Is there something else?
TIA
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Use an old version of CWM or TWRP. The ones made for CM11 won't work.
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Older than 2.6.3?

FirePsych said:
Older than 2.6.3?
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TWRP versions older than v2.6.3.0, CWM versions older than v6.0.4.5.

Great. Thank you

I had been running CM 10.1 SD hybrid install from bokbokan and recently updated to his SD CM11 install.
I enjoyed it but decided to switch to an emmc build (and try to find one on which I could get tabletui back!) so I started cleaning up my stock rom so I could back it up and then place stock on SD using verygreen's files.
However, I discovered some tweaks (and an unknown functionality of Apex launcher for the home button) for rooted stock that made me happier with my setup on stock than I have been in a while.
You might want to give stock a chance again. I'm going to make a backup of my setup and then see if I can get any Xposed modules working. If some of my favorite modules work, then I'll be very happy indeed.
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Been Googling this till it crosseyed. Where can I find a TWRP recovery older than 2.6.3? Or is rooted stock w/ Apex or Nova really the happiest compromise?

FirePsych said:
Been Googling this till it crosseyed. Where can I find a TWRP recovery older than 2.6.3? Or is rooted stock w/ Apex or Nova really the happiest compromise?
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Why do you want TWRP older than 2.6.3? If it is so you can install an older ROM or zip, just go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and make the bootable CWM per item 1a.
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Because I wanted to downgrade from CM11 to 10.1.3 and I prefer TWRP over CWM. I may still have that SD from when I first rooted my HD+.