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[Q] Want to install custom roms; a few questions

1. Would HO!NO! Mod CM7.1.3 ICS Edition be slower than a stock android 2.2.1 (rooted)?
2. How would I backup my phone if I don't like the rom and how would I reinstall it?
3. If i install that particular mode mentioned above, Does that mean I have ICS on my phone?
thx. i'm a noob.

imeem said:
1. Would HO!NO! Mod CM7.1.3 ICS Edition be slower than a stock android 2.2.1 (rooted)?
2. How would I backup my phone if I don't like the rom and how would I reinstall it?
3. If i install that particular mode mentioned above, Does that mean I have ICS on my phone?
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I'm guessing you're using a Milestone. I'm not familiar with the ROMs for it or backup/recovery procedures, but the one question I can answer is #3. You would have Gingerbread, not ICS if you installed that ROM. CM7 is based on Android 2.3, CM9 on Android 4.0 (ICS). As the first post in the thread you linked says, that ROM has a 2.3.7 base with ICS theming, which is kind of like putting a Mustang body on a Ford Tempo.

Dave Lister said:
I'm guessing you're using a Milestone. I'm not familiar with the ROMs for it or backup/recovery procedures, but the one question I can answer is #3. You would have Gingerbread, not ICS if you installed that ROM. CM7 is based on Android 2.3, CM9 on Android 4.0 (ICS). As the first post in the thread you linked says, that ROM has a 2.3.7 base with ICS theming, which is kind of like putting a Mustang body on a Ford Tempo.
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oh ok thx. but would the ICS theming have any performance impact or none? and yea i have a Milestone

first of all installing a custom rom makes u get plenty of features. 2nd it wont get u the brute speed of the official froyo but it gives many more features in the expense of speed
3rd yaa u can intall ics theme for cm7 theme chooser it will give you a clone of ics .....
add a thanks if it was helpfull
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and installing the theme does not cause any effect on performance
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i still need help with backing up my phone.
This guide: [How To] Root, Backup, and ROM Your CDMA (nTelos) Milestone, didn't help because I have a Telus Moto Milestone and I think it has a locked bootloader.

wen u go into the open recovery menu u will find a option called nandroid there u can backup your rom.. and if u want to install it again jus go to nandroid and restore ..
do add thanks if it was helpfull
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imeem said:
i still need help with backing up my phone.
This guide: [How To] Root, Backup, and ROM Your CDMA (nTelos) Milestone, didn't help because I have a Telus Moto Milestone and I think it has a locked bootloader.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=983516 this is the way to do in on our milestone

k thx. everything is working.
BUT now i get " no service " . I first got this when i installed open Recovery. How do i fix this? I tried changing my baseband to Canada and to telus but it still dones't work. I Also tried restoring the backup i installed and it still didn't work
BTW it is a Motorola Milestone from Telus ( i think it's a A853). But it was originally unlocked to be use on Rogers. I think the original .SBF file i used was the cause of the no service.

yaa most probably.. . thus bug has been noted down by many users .. why dont u flash the original sbf back and try?
add a thanks if it was helpfull
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ok i finally fixed it for good (hopefully). I found out that even tho I bought Milestone in Canada, It was a Europe version. I randomlly picked the UK .sbf and now I have service.
thx for all your help shalom06

Droid 3 CWM Stock ROM?

Can i flash a stock GB rom using ROm Manager? I can't find my USB cable so i wanna do it through my phone (through recovery)
any links? thanks guys!

SS2006 said:
Can i flash a stock GB rom using ROm Manager? I can't find my USB cable so i wanna do it through my phone (through recovery)
any links? thanks guys!
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Use your phone to download it and flash it do not use rom manager at all like today I used my phone to download cm9 and the gapps as well it tuck me 30 mints to 1 h but I got it downloaded the app called download all files get it then download the rom you need using your phone it self when you go to flash that rom it will be on your phones internal SD card and just to be safe I'm saying that what ever you do to your phone I'm not buying you a new one so I'm not responsible of what my or may not happen to your phone if all on you man
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I see you're in ON, so I assume you're using an XT860?
Willis111 posted a CWM version of the stock Bell 2.3.6 (I believe it is rooted) - He posted it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1465153&highlight=bell+2+3+6
I think the download link is hosted by rapidshare so hopefully your phone will be able to download straight to the sdcard... good luck!

leersp yes I've done that before but I dont want CM9, i want stock GB, or any 100% functional GB
LazioDroid, thanks so much, I wish I had the bell version, mines actually the Verizon version?
Would that link work, or is there a verizion one?

Or CAN SOMEONE BACKUP THEIR ROM USING RECOVERY (SAFESTRAP) AND UPLOAD IT
and i can restore?

Ah... an XT862... I'm not sure if the bell cwm will work for ya.
I recommend a custom rom (Liberty). Or - others have had really good things to say about MavROM4! Both arfe available here in the Droid 3 development forum
Sent from my XT860

IMO, ROM Manager just causes more headaches than it solves and I recommend ditching it for the D3 at least. As for a stock ROM for VZW, there is a 906 debloated, optimized, etc. ROM floating around here. It was built from the leak, which is the same as the OTA.
Here it is...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554916

SS2006 said:
leersp yes I've done that before but I dont want CM9, i want stock GB, or any 100% functional GB
LazioDroid, thanks so much, I wish I had the bell version, mines actually the Verizon version?
Would that link work, or is there a verizion one?
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They have the stock gb from here as will
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Anyone port the ICS leak's radios and kernel yet?

I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo

The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
As it stands, the OTA will look for GB 219 when upgrading so those early adopters won't be able to get future upgrades. Unless devs find a way to downgrade or trick the update that is.
Everything I've said could be wrong however this is how I have come to understand it.
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Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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azrael293 said:
Given that we have the fastboot files can't we just wipe and flash that to downgrade?
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No, this results in a brick. Fastboot refuses to flash older partitions over new ones.
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flamefangahs said:
The kernel is based on GB because of the locked bootloader. At least that's how I am to understand it. In other words I think that the custom ROMs can be improved using the leaked ROMs but they'll still have to remain based on the GB kernel. Unless you update your stock system to ICS that is. I think the biggest thing devs should focus on right now is a way to safely upgrade to ICS where downgrading is possible in order to stay on Verizons official upgrade path.
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This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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highlandsun said:
This is why you need kexec - you can load the ICS kernel dynamically, without corrupting your GB install.
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Actually, upgrading to ICS leak is probably the way to go. We can now upgrade from leak 200 to 206, giving us the ability to stay on the upgrade path. Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
Here are the instructions for upgrading from leak 200 to 206:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-4-roms/209619-get-unstuck-ics-leak-200-aka-upgrading-200-206-instructions.html
Also, I believe Hashcode is working on bringing Safestrap 2.0 to the new ICS leak based on the new kernel, and will be working on getting our ROMs on the new kernel as well.

rumgool said:
Since the XDA forums are dead for the Droid 4, I suggest everyone keep up at droidforums.
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droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA. I am really surprised how little interest people have in this phone. I guess I am one of the few that still loves physical keyboards. Only drawback on this phone is the non-removable battery. Otherwise it is rock solid. Had the original Tilt, then TP and TP2. Had the G2 on T-mobile, but reception on that phone was not good and T-mobile Network in the US sucks.

GermanGuy said:
droidforums is about as dead for the Droid 4 as is XDA.
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This is true, I was just mentioning since most of the recent information regarding the ICS leak has been on droidforums so checking it out would fill everyone in on whats going on. Because basically development for the GB kernel is probably going to come to a halt and future development will be based on the new ICS kernel, including the existing AOSP ROMs.

wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?

dewhashish said:
wait, the 206 version keeps you on the upgrade path?
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No, but 206 was supposed to require 219 as 200 did and the official one will and people have found ways around it.
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I have Hashcode's stuff running on my kindle fire. We will all be in for a treat once he starts focusing on D4. He's done really really good work on the kindle.

dewhashish said:
I know there were 2 leaks of ICS for the phone, but has anyone been able to update the ICS ROMs in the threads to use the new kernel and radios? There's still some data issues and we're using a GB kernel
EDIT: i meant leaks, stupid typo
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They won't be able to do so. What they will be able to do is make their builds work off/with the new kernel/radios flashed by the leak.
So Hashcode will have two builds.
1) - works on phones running the current stock GB kernel.
2) - works on phones running the leaked ICS kernel.
There is still a locked bootloader so you can't flash unsigned kernels/boot.img. For the leaked "system" files to help you need the ICS kernel. The only way to get the ICS kernel is to flash the leak.
So the leaks are great news for people wanting an AOKP or CM9 build running fully functional....on their leak installed phones. Not much help for those who do not want to flash the leak.

I'll definitely flash the leak once root has been released for 4.0.4 (in case OTA rootkeeper doesn't work) and hashcode releases safestrap 2.0 for the leak.

I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
So far it's working great, face unlock and the camera is working perfectly and GSM/WDCMA performance is awesome, I don't seem to have the problem of under-reported GSM signal like in the stock MotoBlur leak.
(Note that I'm in Canada and using Bell Mobility, not in the US on Verizon so I can't say if LTE is functioning properly).
I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
Won't be long before Hashcode puts up an official release, but I definitely recommend trying it out if you're up for it. If Hashcode doesn't mind, I could share a .zip of the build I made if anyone out there is interested.
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Rick#2 said:
I'm presently running Hashcode and the rest of the STS Dev Team's CM9 release with modifications for the ICS kernel leak on my D4 that has been flashed to the .206 leak; I just pulled their work from GitHub and compiled it myself with a few little tweaks.
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Do you think you create a guide or go into more detail how you did this? I'm not quite sure what their git is.
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Rick#2 said:
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I just flashed it with Safestrap v1.09 for the D4; a little tricky since the bootmenu doesn't accept the Menu/Search softkey input to allow you to enter Safestrap, so I had to boot in BP Tools mode to force loading up the Safestrap Recovery. I made some additional tweaks to the build.prop file as well but am really impressed.
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This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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Hashcode said:
This is what I'm trying to fix right now. Seems like the menu/home/search/back buttons are handled as part of the touchscreen. So the new Safestrap has to handle looking for virtual buttons.
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If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?

podspi said:
If you are making good headway, then disregard this. But you could use a scheme similar to FireFireFire for the er, Kindle Fire
Either use a physical button (a return to the old hold the X from the D1, perhaps?) or a few taps to the screen?
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Right now, I'm treating the front buttons like they are a special portion of the touch screen (basically any touch past 960 pixels down is considered the "button row", and then I divided the width up into 4 spots for button presses: menu, home, back and search respectively. (This is in the recovery itself as well as the splashscreen which triggers off of menu)
If that fails, Ill just use hard keys for D4's Safestrap temporarily.
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..or maybe the volume buttons (I bet it requires less modification than implementing support for the digitizer)

I just put up an updated Droid4 2.00 Safestrap for use w/ the new MotoICS leaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1688610
BE SURE TO MAKE AN INITIAL BACKUP OF NON-SAFE SYSTEM BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING.
You will use the "System" backup to restore back to stock .206 to update later.
I have the D4 CM9 / AOKP builds for the MotoICS leaks almost ready and I'll post those soon.

Downgrading from ICS on Bionic

I got my bionic this week, and it had ICS .2231 (I believe that was the right number, I could be wrong though) and I was able to successfully fastboot .905 back to it.
If I want to go between ICS and GB, is this possible on the bionic?
What versions of ICS support downgrading? Has anybody tried to downgrade from .247 back to .905?
Thanks
Sent from my XT894 running ICS

danifunker said:
I got my bionic this week, and it had ICS .2231 (I believe that was the right number, I could be wrong though) and I was able to successfully fastboot .905 back to it.
If I want to go between ICS and GB, is this possible on the bionic?
What versions of ICS support downgrading? Has anybody tried to downgrade from .247 back to .905?
Thanks
Sent from my XT894 running ICS
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You can go back to GB from .232 or below. If you install .235 or higher, then you're stuck. .223X is considered below .232, they just changed the numbering system. I believe anyone who has tried downgrading from .235+ has bricked their phone.
Also, didn't you previously post a lot over on the D3 forum?

linuxgator said:
You can go back to GB from .232 or below. If you install .235 or higher, then you're stuck. .223X is considered below .232, they just changed the numbering system. I believe anyone who has tried downgrading from .235+ has bricked their phone.
Also, didn't you previously post a lot over on the D3 forum?
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Yup, I used to be in the D3 forum, but I got a D4 and have been frequenting that and the RAZR forums now
Thanks for the heads up, I'll grab a copy of .232 just in case I ever want to run ICS on it.
Is there a download I can find somewhere for it? Also, have people been posting boot.img files for leaks that have been coming out? That's something I can help with.

danifunker said:
Yup, I used to be in the D3 forum, but I got a D4 and have been frequenting that and the RAZR forums now
Thanks for the heads up, I'll grab a copy of .232 just in case I ever want to run ICS on it.
Is there a download I can find somewhere for it? Also, have people been posting boot.img files for leaks that have been coming out? That's something I can help with.
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Here's something you might want to take a look at. Droid Forums seems to be where most of the action for the Bionic is these days, and a guy called SamuriHL has put together a pretty neat little program for moving around with the various ICS leaks and whatnot. http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-bionic-hacks/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html

SamuriHL really saved the day with his House of Bionic to restore my bricked bionic to fully functional ics.
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[Q] Root Stock Bionic with current ICS 4.0.4

i have a stock bionic with the current ICS update from the fall/winter. I have rooted my bionic before using motofail and i played around with it for a while but once i heard the real deal ICS was coming out i un-rooted and waited. now that i have it i want to root it again but i'm having trouble finding a thread with tips on which tool to root with. all i keep seeing is posts and threads about rooting to ICS but either im just not seeing or idk what but whats the best method to root a stock ICS phone. i am planning on flashing a few JB roms or other stuff like that. thank you in advance for any help. :good:

Tayhan said:
i have a stock bionic with the current ICS update from the fall/winter. I have rooted my bionic before using motofail and i played around with it for a while but once i heard the real deal ICS was coming out i un-rooted and waited. now that i have it i want to root it again but i'm having trouble finding a thread with tips on which tool to root with. all i keep seeing is posts and threads about rooting to ICS but either im just not seeing or idk what but whats the best method to root a stock ICS phone. i am planning on flashing a few JB roms or other stuff like that. thank you in advance for any help. :good:
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I am also looking to root a droid bionic running android version 4.0.4
I found this link to files off a recent youtube video walkthrough of how to do this:
(link was here)
Is this the best technique to root the device?
edit: okay, XDA won't let me post links yet. Maybe someone else can? Here's how to get to the site I was referring to:
1. search for "droidmodderx bionic 4.0.4" at google.com
2. click the link on droidmodderx.com called "how click root for ICS leak 4.0.4 bionic"