I need help with this. I have noticed that my phone battery lasts a very short when is on a 3g network, using or not data traffic
To prove this, first i left my phone before going to sleep, on 3G network at 100% and Stamina Mode On, but after 6 hours the battery go down until 82%(6 hours and 37 min sleeping). I made the same experiment but in "Only 2G" mode, and the battery go from 100% to 98%.
Also i've made the same test on 3G network and NO Data connection. Results, 100% to 80% in 7 hrs.
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Finally and following the advice of an user from sony support forum, i did a factory reset using PC Companion(12.0.A.2.245). So, no root, no applications, no sync with google, no nothing. I left it at 100% and dropped to 82% in 7hrs on a 3G network without data connection.
Besides, this problem causes the projections of battery life do not change when you turn on Stamina Mode. I mean, Stamina Mode works(disable data connections) but there's no differences between have data or not, the phone uses the same battery.
So it is not normal that battery consumption on a 3g network while the phone is idle. I've made some screenshots and as you can see, the process com.sonyericsson.android.wakeup, has to many wakes. I read about this en xda-forum and is seems to be related whit Fast Dormancy, but not sure if that's the real problem.
I lost the screenshots when i did the factory reset but can see in this thread of Sony Support forum: Sonymobile forum: 3G and Battery Drain
I hope you can help me. Greetings
PS: sorry my bad english
Only thing I can suggest it's leaving WiFi on. This consumes less power when idle.
Really confused by people's problem with the battery, in use its average, but stamina mode works perfectly for me.
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The 3G radio can be one of the biggest wasters of power in a phone especially if you are a long way from the cell tower or your local cell is very busy. Even when your local cell is close, when it has a lot of simultaneous connections the signal strength goes down and your phone continually tries to reconnect, in order to remain on the network, using full power.
If you are lucky to live or work near cells which don't get very busy, the 3G radio reduces its power output, and probably also doesn't have to reconnect as often.
Still, your case sounds a bit extreme, so maybe there is something else involved exchanging background data when it shouldn't be.
Pete_S said:
The 3G radio can be one of the biggest wasters of power in a phone especially if you are a long way from the cell tower or your local cell is very busy. Even when your local cell is close, when it has a lot of simultaneous connections the signal strength goes down and your phone continually tries to reconnect, in order to remain on the network, using full power.
If you are lucky to live or work near cells which don't get very busy, the 3G radio reduces its power output, and probably also doesn't have to reconnect as often.
Still, your case sounds a bit extreme, so maybe there is something else involved exchanging background data when it shouldn't be.
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Thanks for the answer.
I thought the problem was the signal. So I checked the signal strength at the place where I did the tests and the results were that the signal is between -75 dBm and-85dBm. That's a good intensity. Besides I live in a small town, so I doubt that the local cell is very busy.
I think that's because the fast dormancy. Are you root? Try installing betterbatterystats and see what processes are draining your battery. In my case I had to delete de fast dormancy apk and it solved the issue.
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I think that's because the fast dormancy. Are you root? Try installing betterbatterystats and see what processes are draining your battery. In my case I had to delete de fast dormancy apk and it solved the issue.
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Yes, that's one of the first things i do(fast dormancy)...and not solved the problem.
I don't think is related with the battery, because in 2G, the battery works perfectly. The problem is related to the Phone Radio. :crying:
As many of you suggested 3G is another way saying 3 times faster battery drain!
Use wifi unless you are on the go in this case if you have to use 3G
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As many of you suggested 3G is another way saying 3 times faster battery drain!
Use wifi unless you are on the go in this case if you have to use 3G
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But Wi Fi is useless to make phonecalls. My problem is not related to the traffic data on a 3G network. The problem is the standby in a 3G network without Data and wifi. As you can see in the screenshot below, the phone radio consumes too much battery on stand by mode.
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But Wi Fi is useless to make phonecalls. My problem is not related to the traffic data on a 3G network. The problem is the standby in a 3G network without Data and wifi. As you can see in the screenshot below, the phone radio consumes too much battery on stand by mode.
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By the way, my 3G is draining battery 8 times faster than 2G.
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By the way, my 3G is draining battery 8 times faster than 2G.
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Thats a real problem .... it may be a software issue!
I was a big fan of the battery, but updating my software killed deep sleep. Wiping everything and installing from scratch fixed deep sleep.
3g is a big drainer, but stamina mode should turn 3g off when the device is idle.
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I was a big fan of the battery, but updating my software killed deep sleep. Wiping everything and installing from scratch fixed deep sleep.
3g is a big drainer, but stamina mode should turn 3g off when the device is idle.
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Thats the problem, Stamina turn off 3G data connections(internet), but 3G phone radio(calls and sms) keep working and draining battery. So, stamina just give me 2 or 3 more hours of battery, not 4 times more battery as sony promised.
By the way, the specifications of the phone says: Stand-by Up to 635 h (2G) / Up to 734 h (3G)
go to settings>data usage>click three dots of the right top corner and click on the "restrict background data and auto sync" might helped ur problem lil bit.
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go to settings>data usage>click three dots of the right top corner and click on the "restrict background data and auto sync" might helped ur problem lil bit.
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Yes, I tried that too. But as I said before, the problem is not battery consumption using internet. Is what it consumes wcdma radio to stay connected to the cellular antenna, make calls, or data traffic.
Notice the difference after 7 hours standby:
2G --> 0,1%/Hr
3G --> 2,6%/Hr
I have also having same problem.
Turned off data and wifi. set only WCDMA network, enable stamina mode.
The battery drop from 100 to 84 within 7 hours.
Check the battery usage, the Cell Standby occupied 54% of usage.
Still havent test for 2G. If really 3G problem, then i will just stick with 2G when im sleeping ><
BTW, my galaxy note N7000 battery drop 0%-2% while im sleeping with using 2G network (off data wifi)
*Yea, the battery drop 0% after 7-8 hours
to reduce the number of wakelocks for fast dormancy, root your phone, then go to /system/etc/fast-dormancy and open fd_custm_conf.txt. replace the '0' of the 2 lines with the MCC and MNC numbers of your APN respectively. you can find these numbers under your Access Point Names. just click on the one that is active and scroll down until you see MCC and MNC. once done, save the file and reboot.
it works for me, the wakelocks have decreased but i still get a huge battery drain in standy mode, with wifi on and stamina mode on. hope this fixes the issue for you. cheers :good:
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to reduce the number of wakelocks for fast dormancy, root your phone, then go to /system/etc/fast-dormancy and open fd_custm_conf.txt. replace the '0' of the 2 lines with the MCC and MNC numbers of your APN respectively. you can find these numbers under your Access Point Names. just click on the one that is active and scroll down until you see MCC and MNC. once done, save the file and reboot.
it works for me, the wakelocks have decreased but i still get a huge battery drain in standy mode, with wifi on and stamina mode on. hope this fixes the issue for you. cheers :good:
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Yeah..i also removed the "Fast Dormancy", and "wake up" disappeared. However, the problem with battery consumption on 3G network continues :crying:
We can only hope that version 4.3 solves the problem. :good:
Sorry to jump onto this thread with a question that doesn't help you solve the battery issues, but I'm guessing you guys will have a good idea of the answer to this.
How do I set 2G only? The only options I have are: 4G (preferred)/3G/2G, 3G only, or 3G (preferred)/2G.
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Sorry to jump onto this thread with a question that doesn't help you solve the battery issues, but I'm guessing you guys will have a good idea of the answer to this.
How do I set 2G only? The only options I have are: 4G (preferred)/3G/2G, 3G only, or 3G (preferred)/2G.
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Some firmwares don't let you do that. But you always have the option to do with the information menu. Just dial *#*#4636#*#* and then go to "Phone Information", there's an option to set the network type. :good:
fefepato said:
Some firmwares don't let you do that. But you always have the option to do with the information menu. Just dial *#*#4636#*#* and then go to "Phone Information", there's an option to set the network type. :good:
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Thanks, I did find that one, but it's a bit too much for my wife to do regularly. Once it's out of warranty, I'll stick a different rom on there. For now, she's getting 2 days, so can manage with that.
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I've searched to understand what's keeping my phone awake and killing my battery and I can't figure it out.
Some background on me:
I'm very familiar with using SS, HoB, flashing ROM's, wiping. FDR, etc, for the Bionic.
Have Better Battery Stats to try to watch what's eating battery.
was on .905, did FDR, used HoB to get to .246 leak after it was confirmed same as the OTA....
Now on .246, rooted with HoB.
Not using TiBu to restore any apps or data.
Have installed better battery stats to understand what's keeping my phone awake.
Whether on the stock rom, stock rom de-bloated, or Eclipse...
Unless I use smart actions to turn off cellular data + background sync (while on a stock rom) there's one common thing keeping my phone awake (kernel wakelock):
bpwake
If I turn off cellular data + background sync then I don't get gtalk notifications/messages, and I've even had some texts not come through when I had those 2 features off (which I thought was strange, not even mms, just regular text messages) and the text never came through even after they turned back on.
I understand that if you don't use your phone a lot, AndroidOS is going to take up a bit of the power drain. No worries there.
But the fact that I'm on an extended battery and I'm halfway through that in less than 5hrs with MINIMAL phone usage- that just doesn't seem right... I could understand that with the standard battery..
My concern is that the "keep awake" time seems rather high in relation to screen time...
I can't find anything on bpwake other than a post about the droid razr, and there wasn't ever a response to that post.
Anyway, I've attached some screenshots of my kernel wakelocks from BBS, as well as battery readouts from the settings and screen on times plus the AndroidOS keep awake time.
I know it doesn't look like the phone is waking up very often, and I've seen much worse in the past, but it seems as though there's still something that's keeping it awake.
I'll try another FDR, and reload .246 through HoB and see if it helps any but I figured I'd reach out here for any help.
Thanks
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dan46n2 said:
I've searched to understand what's keeping my phone awake and killing my battery and I can't figure it out.
Some background on me:
I'm very familiar with using SS, HoB, flashing ROM's, wiping. FDR, etc, for the Bionic.
Have Better Battery Stats to try to watch what's eating battery.
was on .905, did FDR, used HoB to get to .246 leak after it was confirmed same as the OTA....
Now on .246, rooted with HoB.
Not using TiBu to restore any apps or data.
Have installed better battery stats to understand what's keeping my phone awake.
Whether on the stock rom, stock rom de-bloated, or Eclipse...
Unless I use smart actions to turn off cellular data + background sync (while on a stock rom) there's one common thing keeping my phone awake (kernel wakelock):
bpwake
If I turn off cellular data + background sync then I don't get gtalk notifications/messages, and I've even had some texts not come through when I had those 2 features off (which I thought was strange, not even mms, just regular text messages) and the text never came through even after they turned back on.
I understand that if you don't use your phone a lot, AndroidOS is going to take up a bit of the power drain. No worries there.
But the fact that I'm on an extended battery and I'm halfway through that in less than 5hrs with MINIMAL phone usage- that just doesn't seem right... I could understand that with the standard battery..
My concern is that the "keep awake" time seems rather high in relation to screen time...
I can't find anything on bpwake other than a post about the droid razr, and there wasn't ever a response to that post.
Anyway, I've attached some screenshots of my kernel wakelocks from BBS, as well as battery readouts from the settings and screen on times plus the AndroidOS keep awake time.
I know it doesn't look like the phone is waking up very often, and I've seen much worse in the past, but it seems as though there's still something that's keeping it awake.
I'll try another FDR, and reload .246 through HoB and see if it helps any but I figured I'd reach out here for any help.
Thanks
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Your first problem is the 30 mins you went without data. The phone when it does not have a signal will continuously attempt to regain the signal. That is what is triggering the wake ups. If your going to be in dead zones put it in airplane mode.
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Obsidian_soul said:
Your first problem is the 30 mins you went without data. The phone when it does not have a signal will continuously attempt to regain the signal. That is what is triggering the wake ups. If your going to be in dead zones put it in airplane mode.
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Interesting, is that true even if you turn mobile data off? It's not clear if the OP turned it off or was just in a dead zone.
I ask because I'm chasing the exact same problem on Stock-Rooted .246, on a stock battery. I don't charge at night, rather I charge in my office during the day. So my phone sits off the charger during the night so I get a good idea of battery drain in standby. Since loading .246 OTA, with data/sync/4g on sitting overnight I was seeing a 12% drop in a 7 hour overnight period, with GSam Battery Monitor showing most of the drain going to Kernel activity. Not bad I guess, but seems way high to me. In comparison my previous phone (Dinc2) would only drop about 4% overnight with data/sync on.
So in an attempt to improve it and get her to sleep, I turned off Mobile Data and Background sync, leaving just the cell radio on. It's my only phone so I'd like to at least be able to receive an emergency phone call in the middle of the night, god forbid. In the same 7 hour period, with mobile data/sync off, I saw an 18% drop, GSam saying 49% of that went to Kernel activity. So, no mobile data/sync, yet the Kernal is still that active, with more drain??? What in the world is the kernel doing, it should be in a deep sleep. Any insight?
Not sure what the no service was about, as I've got service where the phone is parked most of the day (at my desk) but I notice it is still saying I have no data connection or no signal as of now (2h23m off charger, 35min w/ no data connection, 28m w/ no or unknown signal).
Anyway, I've gotten the kernel wakelock (bpwake) down significantly by turning 4g off and leaving it with 3g only.
Battery life is rather exceptional now with only putting the phone in 4g if it's necessary...
Eventually I'll try Eclipse again and see how that works with 4g off and using 3g exclusively (when I'm not on wifi, of course).
Erievon said:
Interesting, is that true even if you turn mobile data off? It's not clear if the OP turned it off or was just in a dead zone.
So in an attempt to improve it and get her to sleep, I turned off Mobile Data and Background sync, leaving just the cell radio on. It's my only phone so I'd like to at least be able to receive an emergency phone call in the middle of the night, god forbid. In the same 7 hour period, with mobile data/sync off, I saw an 18% drop, GSam saying 49% of that went to Kernal activity. So, no mobile data/sync, yet the Kernal is still that active, with more drain??? What in the world is the kernal doing, it should be in a deep sleep. Any insight?
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Just to eliminate this variable, I should also state I show radio signal was good, 4-5 bars all night long.
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dan46n2 said:
Anyway, I've gotten the kernel wakelock (bpwake) down significantly by turning 4g off and leaving it with 3g only.
Battery life is rather exceptional now with only putting the phone in 4g if it's necessary...
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You say you're on .246, forgive the Noob question, but how are you switching it to 3g? I appear to no longer have that option in .246 OTA.
dan46n2 said:
Anyway, I've gotten the kernel wakelock (bpwake) down significantly by turning 4g off and leaving it with 3g only.
Battery life is rather exceptional now with only putting the phone in 4g if it's necessary...
Eventually I'll try Eclipse again and see how that works with 4g off and using 3g exclusively (when I'm not on wifi, of course).
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I'll have to second the question above - how are you able to turn 4G off Dan? I'm on stock, non rooted .246 (planning on root is what brought me to this part of the forum) and the only trick I know to manipulate the network type is *#*#4636#*#* - last night I switched to LTE only and all of maybe 10% overnight. Of course, I can't make any calls (no calls over lte iirc?)
thanks for looking into this! I'm going to have to monitor battery stats a lot more with this phone...
Digging through more GSam stats, I'm seeing 300+ wakelocks from the mediaserver. I'm sure this is probably not helping matters. Anyone know what causes this and how to stop it? I'm certainly not listening to music or viewing pictures in my sleep.
I'm using the lte switch app for the thunderbolt to turn off 4g. Available from the play store.
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I started using BBS as well, my BP Wake is in check, though I'd still like to know what that is.
However, A big draw I'm seeing now is very similar to the OP's screen shots that he didn't mention. Anyone know what OMAP_USBHS_Wakelock is? I googled it, but Only references I see are just a few others just asking what it is with no resolution.
This should help.
First, I found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886166
Which mentions wakelocks and battery drain. Same as yours and the OPs.
Next, I decided to search *just* wakelock in Google: https://www.google.com/search?q=wak...zilla:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-nightly
Which led me to the following two links here at XDA:
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.WakeLock.html
An explanation about PowerManager.wakelock methods used in Android, and
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
"A Comprehensive (but not by any means definitive) Guide to Wakelocks"
That should answer most questions.
)This next part is me surmising - I may be way off base, but this is what I gleaned from reading through all of these things quickly)
In our case, it seems like the kernel is now built in with some sort of USBHS driver for our OMAP chipset, which means that it now allows programs (apps) to call that PowerManager.wakelock method and keep the phone (or specific parts, such as the chipset, CPU, etc. - which means, of course, more battery drain.
The problem is the weak mobile network signal and the power it takes to maintain it. On the other hand, the weak mobile network signal is apparently a problem in ICS only and GB does not have this problem to the same extent.
In some ROMs the battery drainer shows up as "Android OS" but in others it shows up as "Phone radio" or whatever it is that signifies that.
I do have the GSM/WCDMA hack enabled though and it seems to only happen with that.
So did anyone find a solution? I'm in the same boat. My extended battery is not lasting in ICS like it did in GB. I cannot even go 8 hrs with minimal use off charger.
Zetachi - the only thing that I've been able to do in order to increase battery life is to turn off 4G unless I need it. With using strictly 3G (and wifi when I'm at home) I'm getting much better battery life.
dan46n2 said:
Zetachi - the only thing that I've been able to do in order to increase battery life is to turn off 4G unless I need it. With using strictly 3G (and wifi when I'm at home) I'm getting much better battery life.
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LOL kind of defeats the purpose of having a 4G phone and service
Eh, you still have the 4G without the drain. While not the most optimal situation, at least its easily remedied with just a few clicks.
Certainly an inconvenience, but those of us with the Droid Bionic have got to be used to that feeling by now!
I use WiFi at home and 4G everywhere else. I get great battery life.
Something I learned, though, is that the Gmail app will sync with the servers every 5 minutes if you create and save (not send) a draft. That will eat up a lot of battery over the course of a night (or day).
Something to think about.
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T3t3 battery wipe
https://www.box.com/shared/0fq4sdhhxwwgex0e7uyh
Get a full charge and run this in safestrap.
I let mine reboot and charge again cause safestrap Burns battery. Then run it till its dead.
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I'll have to second the question above - how are you able to turn 4G off Dan? I'm on stock, non rooted .246 (planning on root is what brought me to this part of the forum) and the only trick I know to manipulate the network type is *#*#4636#*#* - last night I switched to LTE only and all of maybe 10% overnight. Of course, I can't make any calls (no calls over lte iirc?)
thanks for looking into this! I'm going to have to monitor battery stats a lot more with this phone...
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Be careful with this method. I know you posted this a while back but it may be helpful for others to know that the phone can lose data all-together using this method. It has happened to myself and other users as well.
So I use WiFi for about 95% of the day, and it appears the verizon models suffer from cell standby... I have smart network switch turned off as well. My screen on time at the moment of this picture was 1.5 hrs. Here's a picture
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Not sure it's an issue
Cell standby is also the main cause of battery drain in mine, but I'm not actually sure this is an issue. Something has to have the highest impact on battery and it makes sense that it's cell standby because that's the only thing that's on constantly (unless airplane mode is on). The actual battery performance seems to be as advertised, so I'm not complaining.
It makes sense... 2 radios drain the battery faster than 1. WiFi is only to save on your tiered data plans imo.
I believe I saw that if you disable VoLTE or Enhanced 4G that this symptom goes away.
I was reading through the AT&T S6 Edge forum. I'd post a link, but I wasn't able to locate it again.
xcsdm said:
I believe I saw that if you disable VoLTE or Enhanced 4G that this symptom goes away.
I was reading through the AT&T S6 Edge forum. I'd post a link, but I wasn't able to locate it again.
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Isn't VoLTE disabled by default on Verizon phones under the alias of advanced calling? I haven't seen a menu for enhanced 4G either...
End of the day stats are hovering at around 3 hours and 20 minutes screen on time with 12% remaining, auto brightness with cell standby at a whopping 54% while my screen is at 8%. The hell?
xcsdm said:
I believe I saw that if you disable VoLTE or Enhanced 4G that this symptom goes away.
I was reading through the AT&T S6 Edge forum. I'd post a link, but I wasn't able to locate it again.
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VoLTE has nothing to do with it, tested 3 days of VoLTE on, and 2 days off. No difference, and my Cell Standby usage is up in the 40% at the end of every day.
I noticed that as soon I conenect to wifi stand by start to raise, disconect and stop, is kind of weird
problem fixed!
The fix was this:
1) turn off phone
2) hold volume up, home button, power button until it boots into recovery
3) wipe cache partition
4) reboot
5) turn ON advanced calling
I was able fix my battery drain problem. Most forums will tell you to disable hd calling but on the verizon model it is off by default. Turning it on and clearing your cache fixes the cell standby issue. When you turn it on it will ask you to activate. Don't worry, its free. My battery life went from 6 to 14 hours with heavy use. Thanks to the original poster sonoflopez in the reddit forums.
listentochris said:
The fix was this:
1) turn off phone
2) hold volume up, home button, power button until it boots into recovery
3) wipe cache partition
4) reboot
5) turn ON advanced calling
I was able fix my battery drain problem. Most forums will tell you to disable hd calling but on the verizon model it is off by default. Turning it on and clearing your cache fixes the cell standby issue. When you turn it on it will ask you to activate. Don't worry, its free. My battery life went from 6 to 14 hours with heavy use. Thanks to the original poster sonoflopez in the reddit forums.
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how the heck do you have that many hours left? mine can't get past 10 hours showing right after I take it off full charge? Is my phone defective?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kaejmbbcmt9dmue/Screenshot_2015-04-24-11-58-50.png?dl=0
listentochris said:
The fix was this:
1) turn off phone
2) hold volume up, home button, power button until it boots into recovery
3) wipe cache partition
4) reboot
5) turn ON advanced calling
I was able fix my battery drain problem. Most forums will tell you to disable hd calling but on the verizon model it is off by default. Turning it on and clearing your cache fixes the cell standby issue. When you turn it on it will ask you to activate. Don't worry, its free. My battery life went from 6 to 14 hours with heavy use. Thanks to the original poster sonoflopez in the reddit forums.
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This doesn't wipe the phone or make you redo anything does it
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This doesn't wipe the phone or make you redo anything does it
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No it does not affect internal memory (pics, music, etc.) or apps. @ humblesheep I was pretty amazed by how much of a difference it made. There are a couple of other things you can do as well such as disabling location services and bloatware apps that can increase battery life.
listentochris said:
No it does not affect internal memory (pics, music, etc.) or apps. @ humblesheep I was pretty amazed by how much of a difference it made. There are a couple of other things you can do as well such as disabling location services and bloatware apps that can increase battery life.
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Thanks for the reply bud
listentochris said:
The fix was this:
1) turn off phone
2) hold volume up, home button, power button until it boots into recovery
3) wipe cache partition
4) reboot
5) turn ON advanced calling
I was able fix my battery drain problem. Most forums will tell you to disable hd calling but on the verizon model it is off by default. Turning it on and clearing your cache fixes the cell standby issue. When you turn it on it will ask you to activate. Don't worry, its free. My battery life went from 6 to 14 hours with heavy use. Thanks to the original poster sonoflopez in the reddit forums.
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Great battery life after this tip! Idk what HD voice is but now im super impressed with the phones battery life which before was my only complaint.
You're awesome
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The fix was this:
1) turn off phone
2) hold volume up, home button, power button until it boots into recovery
3) wipe cache partition
4) reboot
5) turn ON advanced calling
I was able fix my battery drain problem. Most forums will tell you to disable hd calling but on the verizon model it is off by default. Turning it on and clearing your cache fixes the cell standby issue. When you turn it on it will ask you to activate. Don't worry, its free. My battery life went from 6 to 14 hours with heavy use. Thanks to the original poster sonoflopez in the reddit forums.
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I just wanted to say thank you. I have been trying to figure this out for days. Can't wait to have a good battery life!
Fix for cell standby bug is to go to Settings > Wi-Fi > more > advanced then make it look like this.
This is for the people that are having issues with the battery draining while on wifi only.
Setup like image below and it should fix your issues.
worked for me, I think
listentochris said:
The fix was this:
1) turn off phone
2) hold volume up, home button, power button until it boots into recovery
3) wipe cache partition
4) reboot
5) turn ON advanced calling
I was able fix my battery drain problem. Most forums will tell you to disable hd calling but on the verizon model it is off by default. Turning it on and clearing your cache fixes the cell standby issue. When you turn it on it will ask you to activate. Don't worry, its free. My battery life went from 6 to 14 hours with heavy use. Thanks to the original poster sonoflopez in the reddit forums.
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I did this an dumped a couple apps that I had downloaded. But I think this is what finally did it. Standby was at 50% most of the time and I couldn't keep the phone charged, and charging took forever. The standby has been at 1% all day. I didn't do the advanced calling part. I couldn't figure out where that was, but it still worked.
I've tried this several times but it doesn't seem to help. Could it be because I'm rooted? Cell standby is completely murdering my battery. Today it used 41% of my battery. Any other suggestions?
i did this and my cell standby got worse but a lot (went from 5% to 20% after that process) any suggestions on what happened? i followed all the steps
swimming3 said:
i did this and my cell standby got worse but a lot (went from 5% to 20% after that process) any suggestions on what happened? i followed all the steps
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I think I'm in the same boat as you, I'm still looking for a solution. battery is still awful.
falcon589 said:
I think I'm in the same boat as you, I'm still looking for a solution. battery is still awful.
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I had this issue when I first got my phone. The battery was terrible when on wifi at home and great with wifi turned off. Eventually I signed onto wifi while at the office and the issue was gone. Once I figured out my home router was the issue, I created a guest network on my router where devices couldn't talk to each other. After I joined that, battery life was then good at home.
I did a network capture and found that my Plex server was constantly sending out broadcasts, which may have been keeping the phone from sleeping properly.
Hi everyone, hi experts!
I´ve a problem with my Z3 compact. I was having a huge battery consumption from the Google Services so I decided to save everything, repair software using the PC-Xperia Companion and start from scratch. But after that now everything is even worse! My battery drains about 40-50% in one night whithout using it! This time there is no meaningful info from the apps... power consumption in mAh in every app looks small... but the overall battery drains very fast so I can not detect where the drain is coming from. Here some pictures:
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What can I do now? Reinstall again? Send the phone for repair?
Many thanks in advance!
UPDATE: After forcing the phone to use 2G or 3G the battery drain stopped. So it seems that it happens only when LTE is selected (independently wifi is enabled or not). Question now is if this is a problem of the LTE module of my phone or a problem of the net supplier.
parseval43 said:
Hi everyone, hi experts!
This time there is no meaningful info from the apps... power consumption in mAh in every app looks small... but the overall battery drains very fast so I can not detect where the drain is coming from.
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Chances are Google has a lot to do with it. Do you have poor reception in your house? If the phone is straining to pick up and reply to a poor signal, that can have a big effect on overnight battery. Try switching to 2G overnight.
Other common cuplrits are Facebook and Whatsapp or messaging apps that are constantly pinging data. Try turning the wifi off as you sleep. Also using location based wifi will make a difference as I see your wifi stays on constantly. Have you disabled wifi and bluetooth scanning in location settings? Disable Google location history. I know this sounds daft but go to settings/storage - hold down cached data and delete. This won't effect any apps or services but does make a diffference, I didn't believe it myself until I tried.
Looking at your graph there is something keeping your phone awake at night. Try installing BetterBatteryStats, this will give you more of an idea which service is causing the kernel wakelocks, post your questions about the name of a service causing the problem on the thread as they are very helpful with the answers.
There are lots of reasons why Google Play Services are eating your battery, try a few fixes yourself, check which version of Play Services you have installed , anything older than 9.4.52 needs replacing. Remove your google account, wipe data for Play Services and Download manager, restart to recovery, wipe cache/dalvik. Restart phone, add account again.
There seems to be issues with fitness trackers and bluetooth, if you have bluetooth on all the time, see what happens if you turn it off?
I can recomend Greenify app that can make a difference in putting apps to sleep, it also helps you see which apps are awake and on.
Check in settings/developer options/running services to see what's on and using most memory, you might be surprised at what you find. To enable developer options go to settings/about phone - press on build 8 times, then you get a message that develper options are availabe in the settings menu.
If all else fails, I can recomend Slim 2.5, which is giving me 4 days from one charge and moving to a custom rom isn't as difficult as you might think.
I noticed that after installing new ROMs battery usage is relatively high in the first day or so. Hence it may improve over time (to some extent at least...).
Hi!! Thanks for the help!! I´ll try some of the ideas you suggested. Here some answers anyway:
Chances are Google has a lot to do with it. Do you have poor reception in your house? If the phone is straining to pick up and reply to a poor signal, that can have a big effect on overnight battery. Try switching to 2G overnight.
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I had no problem in the past... but two weeks ago my company upgraded me from 3G to LTE... perhaps this is the problem. I´ll block LTE this night an
Other common cuplrits are Facebook and Whatsapp or messaging apps that are constantly pinging data. Try turning the wifi off as you sleep.
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This will be tomorrows trial. One night without WIFI
Also using location based wifi will make a difference as I see your wifi stays on constantly. Have you disabled wifi and bluetooth scanning in location settings? Disable Google location history. I know this sounds daft but go to settings/storage - hold down cached data and delete. This won't effect any apps or services but does make a diffference, I didn't believe it myself until I tried.
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WIFI is always on because I´m at home. I always had wifi always on without problems. I´ll disable location though... just to be sure this is not the problem.
Looking at your graph there is something keeping your phone awake at night. Try installing BetterBatteryStats, this will give you more of an idea which service is causing the kernel wakelocks, post your questions about the name of a service causing the problem on the thread as they are very helpful with the answers.
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This will be my third night trial. Something keeps something always on... I just need to find what. If this app helps perhaps I will find the culprit!
There are lots of reasons why Google Play Services are eating your battery, try a few fixes yourself, check which version of Play Services you have installed , anything older than 9.4.52 needs replacing. Remove your google account, wipe data for Play Services and Download manager, restart to recovery, wipe cache/dalvik. Restart phone, add account again.
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I have 9.4.52 so this should not be the problem. Removing, wiping and redoing everything will be the last thing as I already did yesterday.
There seems to be issues with fitness trackers and bluetooth, if you have bluetooth on all the time, see what happens if you turn it off?
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BT is always off.
I can recomend Greenify app that can make a difference in putting apps to sleep, it also helps you see which apps are awake and on.
Check in settings/developer options/running services to see what's on and using most memory, you might be surprised at what you find. To enable developer options go to settings/about phone - press on build 8 times, then you get a message that develper options are availabe in the settings menu.
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Hurm, good point. Do I need to be root for greenify?
If all else fails, I can recomend Slim 2.5, which is giving me 4 days from one charge and moving to a custom rom isn't as difficult as you might think.
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If all else fails... and for sure in the future. Great link. Thanks!! I dont want to leave the hand of sony´s updates but I´m sure I will need to do it somewhen in the future.
Many thanks!!!!!
Problem found!!! Thanks Didgesteve!!!
After forcing the phone to use 2G or 3G the battery drain stopped. So it seems that it happens only when LTE is selected (independently wifi is enabled or not). Question now is if this is a problem of the LTE module of my phone or a problem of the net supplier. I pay for LTE so I want to use it... but not at the cost of the battery. Is this normal with LTE or do I have a problem?
Thanks again!!
parseval43 said:
Problem found!!! Thanks Didgesteve!!!
After forcing the phone to use 2G or 3G the battery drain stopped. So it seems that it happens only when LTE is selected (independently wifi is enabled or not). Question now is if this is a problem of the LTE module of my phone or a problem of the net supplier. I pay for LTE so I want to use it... but not at the cost of the battery. Is this normal with LTE or do I have a problem?
Thanks again!!
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The cell location for your 4G connection might be further away or on the edge of connectivity compared to the location of the 2G tower. Everyone assumes that the 2G/3G/4G transmitters are all in the same place, but it's very rarely the case. Most 'old' masts with 2G & 3G don't have room for the 4G transmitter as well and the service provider often needs to install 4G somewhere else..
So if your LTE connection is a long way away, your phone will have to be straining at full power just to keep the connection alaive.
Hi all! First of all here are some screenshots about my battery stats. I'm not sure if these stats are right with SOT 6 hours + but it's kind of interesting that cell stanby is greater than my 5.5 inch screen. Also if anyone could tell me that Cell standby is measured together with wifi? If that's the case then i should not worry anymore, because wifi is on all the time.
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Hi all! First of all here are some screenshots about my battery stats. I'm not sure if these stats are right with SOT 6 hours + but it's kind of interesting that cell stanby is greater than my 5.5 inch screen. Also if anyone could tell me that Cell standby is measured together with wifi? If that's the case then i should not worry anymore, because wifi is on all the time.
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First screen shot says it all. Shabby signal = high drain.
Outside of that - 6 hrs screen on over 2 days - what's the problem
And what can I do to make the signal better? I always have almost full or full signal bar, so it's a bit confusing :S
Also please tell me if WiFi is measured under cell standby?
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And what can I do to make the signal better? I always have almost full or full signal bar, so it's a bit confusing :S
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Move closer to a tower - try using 3g
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Also please tell me if WiFi is measured under cell standby?
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No
Phazmos said:
Move closer to a tower - try using 3g
No
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If not where can I see? I have never seen any WiFi icon in battery stats that show how much it drained my battery
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If not where can I see? I have never seen any WiFi icon in battery stats that show how much it drained my battery
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Who cares how much it uses. Is the most efficient use of power for a data connection - just use it and be happy
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Who cares how much it uses. Is the most efficient use of power for a data connection - just use it and be happy
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well I care, because either my wifi or my cellular is draining my battery in an abnormal way, for example today i lost 30% in just 1 hour with 20 minutes SOT just browsing the internet on mobile data a little and using facebook. and i could get 7 hour+ SOT if my cell standby wouldn't be eating 35% of my battery at the end of the day, all my friends have cell standby at 8% average all day, i get 20 - 35% with the same operator, even if i have an excellent signal( full or almost full bar) with -95 dbm.
bikmakk2 said:
well I care, because either my wifi or my cellular is draining my battery in an abnormal way, for example today i lost 30% in just 1 hour with 20 minutes SOT just browsing the internet on mobile data a little and using facebook. and i could get 7 hour+ SOT if my cell standby wouldn't be eating 35% of my battery at the end of the day, all my friends have cell standby at 8% average all day, i get 20 - 35% with the same operator, even if i have an excellent signal( full or almost full bar) with -95 dbm.
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What others get means nothing - I get 10+ hrs sot, and still have 20+% battery left.
I will say this - facecrap is well known to eat battery, and eat it fast. Try an alternative to the fb app.
Oh - Google wifi scanning - might help.
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What others get means nothing - I get 10+ hrs sot, and still have 20+% battery left.
I will say this - facecrap is well known to eat battery, and eat it fast. Try an alternative to the fb app.
Oh - Google wifi scanning - might help.
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i have everything turned off, device only location, no wifi scanning, today i replaced my sim, no changes, also im not using 4g anymore, full signal bar, still orange strenght ( no idea why ). Also do you have the same model?
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i have everything turned off, device only location, no wifi scanning, today i replaced my sim, no changes, also im not using 4g anymore, full signal bar, still orange strenght ( no idea why ). Also do you have the same model?
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Please understand, I don't mind helping people with problems, but I don't see a problem with your sot. It's about the same as mine, and I don't consider myself to have a problem - this is actually the best battery life I've seen on a device I've owned in a long time.
If it really bothers you, contact moto/lenovo, whoever takes responsibility for this device and see if they can help.
Most of all - don't worry - be happy!
Are all the bands that your telco uses supported by the g5s?
My screen off time is perfectly fine. The battery will barely deplete when I'm not using the phone.
If you have the time and opportunity then try airplane mode but WIFI enabled. Bad signal will eat your battery, I have the same problem at home. I regularly see 15-20% battery use for Cell Standby but with the modem disabled Cell Standby will disappear completely.
Found the permanent solution, it appears that the SIM 1 slot is faulty, placing the card to slot 2 fixes the radio problem and now I have full green signal bar, no drain
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i have everything turned off, device only location, no wifi scanning, today i replaced my sim, no changes, also im not using 4g anymore, full signal bar, still orange strenght ( no idea why ). Also do you have the same model?
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My phone is consuming a huge battery after upgrade to Oreo 8.1, when mobile data is active battery drain fast in a few ours, is not my battery and signal is strength, maybe modem has problem or something else, anyone solve this, I will try different solution and post result
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My phone is consuming a huge battery after upgrade to Oreo 8.1, when mobile data is active battery drain fast in a few ours, is not my battery and signal is strength, maybe modem has problem or something else, anyone solve this, I will try different solution and post result
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I have no Oreo yet here in Europe, I don't even think I will ever get it. Seems like the receiver is faulty on many Moto phones
I've been noticing huge battery drain on my Pixel 7 after the March update. No particular apps are draining the battery, phone idle alone does it.
I thought after the June update, it will make the battery backup better but I think it made it even worse. Last night I charged my phone to 100% and slept by turning off WiFi and mobile data. I even kept my network type to 3G to avoid background activities from 4G. And waking up after 5-6 hrs of sleep, I found my battery to be 89%. Screenshot is attached below. This is very disappointing. I bought this phone on February. It has not been a year and this is the performance I get from a flagship?
Clearly, this is not normal. Phone Idle draining 78%(of the 11% actual battery drain) of my phone's battery is crazy. I used to get 2 days of battery backup before that March update. And now I can hardly survive 16hrs. Please help me with a fix.
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Country: Bangladesh
I use dual SIM. 1 physical and 1 e-SIM.
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Factory reset, then be careful what you install.
You didn't use anything on the device though. The phone is idling more than doing any other task. So of course 78% of that small amount of battery drain is going to be due to the idle because idling is what is doing 78% of the time. I really don't see any issue here. I mean you only lost 11% battery over 4 hours and that first 15% drains quicker because lithium ion battery drain isn't linear. That first 10% always goes faster than the rest of the device. If it really bothers you, I would suggest changing the doze parameters to wear it disables the sensors on the device until it's unlocked.
Also, I just noticed that you have no mobile data on either SIM card. The phone is looking for a signal constantly and not getting it, that alone will drain battery, not to mention using dual sims has been known to affect battery life as well. Is the phone in airplane mode in that picture?
You aren't alone. I've been fighting the same issue with the battery drain since March. Up until the June update my excessive battery drain was showing as "Mobile network" but now it shows as "Phone idle". Strangely it drains the most when not in use. I've already done a factory reset and ended up with the exact same issue instantly.
It may be worth trying to disable the "adaptive connectivity" setting and see if that helps. I live in a weak 5g area and my phone was constantly switching between LTE and 5g causing signal drops and battery drain for me. I turned it off and it helped with both issues.
Settings, network & internet, scroll down to the bottom.
O.J. Simpson said:
It may be worth trying to disable the "adaptive connectivity" setting and see if that helps. I live in a weak 5g area and my phone was constantly switching between LTE and 5g causing signal drops and battery drain for me. I turned it off and it helped with both issues.
Settings, network & internet, scroll down to the bottom.
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Tried almost everything except this one. I noticed this option was enabled on my phone. Turned it off today. Let's see how it goes. Thanks for suggestion!
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Also, I just noticed that you have no mobile data on either SIM card. The phone is looking for a signal constantly and not getting it, that alone will drain battery, not to mention using dual sims has been known to affect battery life as well. Is the phone in airplane mode in that picture?
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Not in airplane mode. I turned off Data then why would it constantly look for signal?
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Not in airplane mode. I turned off Data then why would it constantly look for signal?
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I guess I should have asked first, I wasn't sure if you turned data off or not, I guess that's what led to the airplane mode. What about in developer options? Is mobile data always active still set to true?
Anyone with this issue my best suggestion would be use some kind of doze optimization mod. I know nap time is kind of outdated but some things still work correctly. I believe all of it does except for the GMS does magisk module. If you scroll all the way down to the bottom there's a setting that says wait for unlock. That keeps the phone in deep doze mode until you unlock the device, which also keeps the sensors turned off as well. Another option is diamond John's app Temefi. In the search box, type in doze, and you'll see a place where you can choose from several different Doze profiles. For this you need root, but if you're not rooted I would stick with nap time which just needs some ADB commands entered
i think it's a bug, i have no drain but look at the screenshot
"telefono inattivo" is phone idle, same percent but 1hr and more compared to yours, strange, indeed i've no drain
i always keep data, wifi and bluetooth on, since i work in a place where there's no 100% coverage of wifi, and bluetooth for smartwatch connection
have you tried safe mode?