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I purchased the phone about a month ago, from the day I purchased it the camera did not operate correctly. I took my device to the store in an attempt to get it replaced with a new one. Unfortunately for me my camera just happened to work that day which was also the last day of the 30 day warranty. The guy pretty much said that he couldnt help me because my device worked, but then he gave me this number saying that if there is any further problems they will take care of it. So I call the ATT warranty department the next day (my camera broke again) and they said that they were sending me a REFURBISHED phone. I talked with them for 2 hours and they pretty much sait there is nothing they can do.
So I get this refurbished phone and right out of the box it looks of poor quality, I later find out that no matter what I do, the device will not charge. So I send in for another refurb which is of even worse condition and this one wont sync to my PC.
Do any of you guys have any ideas that could help I called the warranty department and coustomer care TWICE, asked to speak to both supervisors, threatened to change my entire family's service and they dont reply with anything except that the phone can not be replaced with a new phone. What do you think I should do?
dude that sucks!
ive never had a problem gettin a swap out.. and i bricked my first tilt..
u need to speak to managers and managers only, throw a fit make a scene in the store they'll work with u!
Learn from your mistake so you don't repeat it in the future. If you have an issue with a phone within the 30 day period, make sure it's fully taken care of within that time frame. Unfortunately you took some clerk's word for what would happen instead of double checking yourself.
AT&T most likely isn't going to do anything more from you. They have pretty good customer service and retention, but it is within their rights to give you a refurbished phone.
I also find it hard to believe that they shipped you two refurbished phones that right out of the box appeared to be of "poor quality." If the phone's had a shoddy appearance they wouldn't have been sent back out.
If your next replacement (refurb) is not functional, then tell them that it is getting ridiculous that you have had 3 replacments and they were all bad (again, I find that dubious). If the phone's are malfunctioning to any extent that you can't make calls (like a phone won't recharge) then they should be crediting your account on a daily basis when you can't use the phone.
Lastly, you can threaten to go to your credit card issuer (assuming you bought it with one) or to the BBB. Again, these are mostly threats, and I don't suggest you follow through unless you are truly getting bad refurbs 3 times in a row. Don't just take a negative attitude and look for problems becuase it isn't a new phone...you aren't likely to get one.
However, you could realistically cancel your service, and then refuse to pay any cancellation fees because they weren't honoring their end of the deal by providing you with functioning equipment. Even though you might have a leg to stand on....it will still probably get sent to collections and mar your credit.
Of the refurbs I got, these were in the condition I stated. When I called ATT they said something along the lines of 'every once in awhile a bad one slips through, but its pretty rare.'
I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
What I am saying is third time is a charm...you can't keep getting bad ones
Also, I know how it can be mentally (as I would feel the same way) that a refurb just isn't as good and you would rather have a new one even if you saw a refurb pass every single test.
Try for #3 and if you are still out of luck...go with the other poster's suggestion and make a scene in the store
This reminds me of when i had the 8525 hermes. I was sent about 3 phones from them that were of bad quality. Bluetooth problems and yellowish tint screen.. The unwritten rule is that after 3 phones youre sopost to get a upgrade of the latest comperable model. Right now the tilt is the latest pocket pc but at the time, the tilt replaced the 8525 and thats how i recieved my tilt..
Moral is.... wait til the next ppc comes out and make a scene.. but also bring that point up to warranty replacement.
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I don't doubt a bad one slips through.... but two in a row....
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Happened to me last week, two bad ones, and a third one that was good. It's possible, and somewhat probable for a scenario like that to occur. It's not like saying he put a million dollars on "00" at the roulette table and won
I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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I'm on my fourth tilt in 6 months. The first one got fried by an ebay charger (I think) my daughter threw the next one and messed up the display (can't believe they haven't charged me for that one... yet) The third did't sync with my PC like one of yours and the forth one's been great. All of the replacments have been refirbs but have looked as good as new with the one being bad out of the box.
I agree with bengalih just get another one if it's bad you'll know right away if not it should be perfectly fine.
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well now we know why AT&T sometimes has such a sweet deal on refurb tilts LOL
Ok you said the second phone couldnt sync to pc. If you search through this forum I guarantee there is a fix for that.
Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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Switch providers and tell them that you are making the switch because of the level of service (with details) that you have to date.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wow Sorry I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the insinuation that they would actually care. The sad fact is T-Mobile Is worse in service availability. And Sprint? I wouldn't wish that on my enemy.
Here is a link: http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=4607
No BS this will work !!
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
I understand what you mean, but I am completely unprepared to take them to court over such a minor issue. Im going to expend all of my other options first, I still have to go back to the store and argue there that it is there fault because they did not support there 30-day return policy in the first place. The man let me walk out of the store with a broken phone. I should have handeled it then but I didnt realize I would be dialing in and getting more refurbs.
Also, my third refurb arrived today, the device functions completely as intended. The problem now is that the keyboard on this new device does not seem very responsive, or at least, not nearly as responsive as the keyboard on my first device (which I still have). I am upset with this as my other Tilt is in premium condition, not a single scratch. I think I am going to return this one as well.
not good
hey I work for the company and
1. they kinda HAVE to exchange your phone in store if you got it over the phone, over att.com or at a corporate store. if you are within 30 days the rep should do the exchange, the rep u got was an A*&*LE. some act like the store stock and shipping cost come from their pocket.
2. if you get an idiot customer svc rep just hangup and call back , sometime u have to bend the truth. say u have a phone that drops calls ( they are afraid of this) and u tried ur friend's SIM card and still does not work correctly.
3. sorry you did not come to my store.(NY)
4. almost impossible to get a new phone through warranty or insurance.
5. if ya'll have any Q's bout stuff PM me.
out...
This is exactly why sometimes the "best deal" is not a good deal...
I only buy my phones from the bigger retailers, Best Buy & the company directly....
Mom & Pop shops, and online retailers:
- Cheaper up front, can usually get you the best deal if you read the fine print and agree
- Usually require a 2nd contract stating you will not change you plan (or features) within 6 months to 1 year or they charge you a penalty (usually $200 for removing OR changing the kind of data service from a phone like the tilt-- ex.: change from Unlimited data $30/month to Unlimited data & Text for $50/month, you broke the contract, they will charge you $200)
- Do not have to accept returns. Returns are done by companies as a 'favor' -- they are not required by US law (for most stores/products, some exceptions)
Big retailers or the Service Provider directly:
- Always have a return policy
- Almost never require a 2nd contract agreeing to keep features
- Usually $25 more for basic phones, up to $100 more for smartphones (they do not require Data, which most M&P/Internet sites give you $75-$100 off for getting and keeping for 6 months)
Other nice advantage of Big Retailers: If customer service at one place gives you no help and you're within reason to return it... go a few miles to another location and try again.... (again, if you're trying to return something 45 days later, you'll probably get no help where ever you go)
This wasnt a 'Mom and Pop' Shop, it was an official retailer. I was going to get the phone at a smaller AT&T but they said I would have to go to an official store that carried there high-end products. When I bought the phone the person I bought it from, I believe I have his buisiness card, but I will check later, allowed me to open the box in the store. He then told me if I wasn't satisfied I had 30 days for a return or replacement. I came back, 29 days later and they said that I had to call there warranty department because the device was not broken, and there fore he could not replace it. Essentially, they lied to me.
If it's not an AT&T corporate store, it's a Mom & Pop shop...
If they say "Authorized Retailer" they are not directly AT&T, they are reselling AT&T services and do not have to follow AT&T Corporate return policies...
Most of these locations are owned by individuals, or groups of individuals, as a business venture...
Keep in mind, anywhere from 50 to 85% of Wireless stores are NOT corporately owned by their service provider, and all of them (except T-Mobile) are allowed to put giant signs on the front of the building saying "AT&T" "Verizon" or "Sprint"... Sprint requires "Authorized Dealer" added to the logo, T-Mobile requires you to name your store something, and if you use T-Mobile logo it can be no more then 25% of the total sign space. AT&T I don't know the exact policy on their signage, but should require "Authorized Reseller" in the sign...
Of course, people can ignore these requirements, One of my old bosses did.. Hence why he's an old boss..
Quick Tip:
If they don't offer the IPhone they are not corporately owned...
At least in the DC metro area, every corporately owned AT&T store has a live active IPhone on display for customers to try
fizzie said:
I got a brand new custom built HP laptop ( to replace my custom built 2yr old laptop w/ 3yr accidental damage protection) because I followed the same advice I am going to give you. Similar situation with my laptop...sent it back twice, never fixed it right, 14 phone calls, over 450 minutes with customer support and such..won't bore ya with the details
Here's what I did...
Got all my phone records to them together
Had all the invoices etc together
Called and told them I had been "advised" that I had to give them one more chance to make it "right" ! Implying I had legal advise....Then I told them I was going to take them to small claims court..Period !
YES I was going to take them to court cause statistically they always settle!
If not I had my records and was in the right !!! Like you seem to be
Be stern, firm and assertive, not angry or yelling. I basically told them what will happen if they did not make it right...they folded like a cheap lawn chair and I got a brand new custom built $2000 laptop plus a full 3yr accidental damage warranty!
I still get a rush thinking about it !!!
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I worked for Acer Computers and they *****ed out with customers every single time something like this happened. This is sound advise
Hi all,
I just wanted to share my experience with Google Play in Germany. I am a native of Australia, but I have been living in Germany for about three years. As such, my German language skills are pretty good, but I often find it hard to speak over the phone. I noticed that my Nexus 7 has left side screen lift a week ago; I have a C8O, which is otherwise perfect, but I figured I should be completely happy with the device and not just partially happy. I also wanted to avoid any possible problems in the future. Additionally, the capacitors in my charger sound like they are going to pop at any second, so that was also of concern.
Anyway, I called their customer support, and the person I dealt with (Annette) was fantastic. She was patient with me, and when I described the problems, she straight away offered an exchange for a new device. So, I will order a new device today, and ship the problematic tablet back after I receive the new one. Which means I am not tablet-less; another surprise. Lets see how the return process goes, but so far, so good. Fingers crossed I receive a C9O with no manufacturing defects and a charger which doesn't sound like its about to explode!
Cheers,
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That is great.
I live near Germany and I got my Nexus 7 with 1 bad pixel, considering for RMA...
once they receive the original device back. it will take you about two months on average to get your money back. But this is only if you stay on them about it.. Its all over the net about this trouble.. My bank has filed a Dispute with them for me and about 10 or there people who live in the area of my city for this exact issue.. you are very likely to get another device as bad or worse then the one your sending back...
So if you do not see your money in two weeks file fraud with your back. GOOGLE Needs to step up and fix this issue..
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once they receive the original device back. it will take you about two months on average to get your money back. But this is only if you stay on them about it.. Its all over the net about this trouble.. My bank has filed a Dispute with them for me and about 10 or there people who live in the area of my city for this exact issue.. you are very likely to get another device as bad or worse then the one your sending back...
So if you do not see your money in two weeks file fraud with your back. GOOGLE Needs to step up and fix this issue..
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I've seen so much of this about, what a terrible method of a returns process, charging you for another device because the device you bought is broke?
What if it was a kid who'd saved all his pocket money to get the device, only for it to be broke, do they expect that kid to spend night and day doing paper rounds so he can buy a second, in order to return the first?
Sounds to me like this is their plan, and hope that alot of the customers do not complain and therefor they have sold that person two devices.
Very bad move of Google and totally destroying for their reputation in my opinion.
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once they receive the original device back. it will take you about two months on average to get your money back. But this is only if you stay on them about it.. Its all over the net about this trouble.. My bank has filed a Dispute with them for me and about 10 or there people who live in the area of my city for this exact issue.. you are very likely to get another device as bad or worse then the one your sending back...
So if you do not see your money in two weeks file fraud with your back. GOOGLE Needs to step up and fix this issue..
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I am hoping that this won't be the case - They have not yet informed me that I will need to purchase a second device in order the RMA the first I purchased. Until they tell me that, I will wait and see. Regardless, German banks are, in my experience, very particular about fraud; I have contacted my bank previously about a charge which I didn't recognise and it was reversed the same day. I will see what happens, but thanks for the heads up
google will send you a email with a link in it. This link is to start the replacement process. What it does is charge your card for a second device. They send it to you. When you receive it you send them the old device.. Then you have to wait . after 14 days you call them to get the charge taken off your card. then it takes them about 3 weeks to get back to you. then a week or so later if you keep calling it will show up in google wallet that its been refunded.. (This is where im at in the process) . Im told by google they have given me my money back and to call my bank. My bank says THEY HAVE NOT and to file fraud charges. This cost 65.00 per device so i have waited and been putting pressure on google.. I will file the charges monday. I Asked my lawyer friend and he says that he might be able to MAKE Google come to Kentucky for a small claims case for the charges .
I Would if you can try to contact asus and see if they can let you send it to them to be REPAIRED.. atleast you know someone will be looking at it . If you go thru all of the above and end up with another bad device . Asus thou i think there support is lousy here in the us.. Are for better then Google..
Just my opinion sorry if i took this thread in the wrong direction.. But its something that many are having issues with and you have the right to know. Some people have had good experience in the exchange process. But it seems only a few .
Good Luck ..
UPDATE:
Okay, so step two in the RMA process has finally been completed. After seemingly forgetting the fact that I called the week before last to organise an RMA, I called Google again on Monday. The guy I dealt with was a bit less understanding of my language difficulties over the phone, but we got there in the end. I got the email with the cart link, and clicked this and 'paid' on Wednesday morning (even though they don't charge your card, it seems that they simply check that your card can cover the extra charge if need be). I actually used a debit and not a credit card, and the balance hasn't been touched at this point.
My new device just arrived! It seems they express-posted it to me, which is generous of them. Its another C8O, same as my 'old' tablet, and thus far doesn't have obvious left-side screen lift - But I will charge it up fully tonight, and see whether it occurs under heat. Meanwhile, I will unroot and lock the bootloader again on the old unit, just in case...
Fingers crossed for a lift-free Nexus 7 - but with all the other problems around, I am not holding my breath!
lanyao1920 said:
That is great.
I live near Germany and I got my Nexus 7 with 1 bad pixel, considering for RMA...
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one bad pixel most likely doesn't turn your device into a faulty one. i am not sure how they deal with that problem, however my experience on other devices were, that they will replace the device only if it had like 7+ dead pixels.
just throwing in my 2 cents.
Wilks3y said:
I've seen so much of this about, what a terrible method of a returns process, charging you for another device because the device you bought is broke?
What if it was a kid who'd saved all his pocket money to get the device, only for it to be broke, do they expect that kid to spend night and day doing paper rounds so he can buy a second, in order to return the first?
Sounds to me like this is their plan, and hope that alot of the customers do not complain and therefor they have sold that person two devices.
Very bad move of Google and totally destroying for their reputation in my opinion.
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In the end they will advertise with the most sold tablet just cause everyone had to buy another one for the exchange process on RMA
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UPDATE:
Okay, so step two in the RMA process has finally been completed. After seemingly forgetting the fact that I called the week before last to organise an RMA, I called Google again on Monday. The guy I dealt with was a bit less understanding of my language difficulties over the phone, but we got there in the end. I got the email with the cart link, and clicked this and 'paid' on Wednesday morning (even though they don't charge your card, it seems that they simply check that your card can cover the extra charge if need be). I actually used a debit and not a credit card, and the balance hasn't been touched at this point.
My new device just arrived! It seems they express-posted it to me, which is generous of them. Its another C8O, same as my 'old' tablet, and thus far doesn't have obvious left-side screen lift - But I will charge it up fully tonight, and see whether it occurs under heat. Meanwhile, I will unroot and lock the bootloader again on the old unit, just in case...
Fingers crossed for a lift-free Nexus 7 - but with all the other problems around, I am not holding my breath!
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Hope everything is fine.
I noticed my N7 had a faulty speaker yesterday and I brought it back to my retailer ( about 21 days passed after purchase ). I had my fingers crossed to get an immediate replacement there. But well they decided to send it to ASUS. So i am stuck with that. Guess it will take a few days longer that way. As the speaker problem is quite common, i am expecting a replacement. However now i am tablet free for the next 2 weeks i guess. Don't want to buy a new one just to cancel the deal within 14 days. Who knows, instead of returning the money, they'll just give me a gift card.
If anyone is interested, I'll update.
So - Long awaited update.
After two replacements with the same problem, they agreed to refund me once I had sent the tablets in and they were checked to ensure that they were not damaged (Of which they definitely weren't). I flashed both back to stock and relocked the bootloaders before I sent them in - They were as-new (aside from the sh*tty manufacturing problems).
The two replacement tablets were sent in on 30.10.2012. They confirmed that the tablets were received in The Netherlands on 31.10 via overnight express. I am still waiting for my refund, even though I was told it would take 'a maximum of 14 days once the tablets are received'. Its now been 42 days. The rep I have been dealing with tells me constantly that she has done all she can for me, and that she is waiting to hear back from another department. When I suggested that perhaps she should escalate the situation to a manager, she supplied me with a physical address where I could 'send my concerns'.
For a company laying claim to being the biggest internet company in the world, their customer service is nothing short of sh*t. I've experienced better customer service from Vodafone in the past - and that's saying something.
I have learned my lesson here - if you must buy Nexus products, buy them from a bricks and mortar store - NEVER BUY THEM DIRECT FROM GOOGLE.
so i sent my phone back for an rma. they were going to send me an xcode for a replacement motomaker phone, rather than fix mine and send it back. the problem is... i have been five days waiting on my xcode. i was told by customer service that i should have the code in 24 hours. <--i called them 24 hours after they received my busted phone. since i didnt have the number yet, they forwarded my case to motomaker support. i got an email from them on saturday stating that i should have one by the end of the week. so here it is wednesday and i still have yet to received my code. i am getting extremely impatient. i missed out on the current soak because of it.
anyways.... how long did it take you to get your xcode? i know they work weekends, and i know they are working round the clock in that factory. it just seems like i should have the code by now.
-patrick
Lots of these fall through the cracks. My rma experience was similar. Lots of phone calls did the trick.
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thanks. i am going to call them today at noon. that will be six days. i just wish i could make a decision on what my new colors are going to be.
I have had a HELL of an experience with my phone RMA. First they said they would replace it, then changed their minds and said they would fix it. So I sent it in. They have had my phone for 15 days and they haven't even entered it into the RMA system. I have spent hours and hours on the phone (beginning more than a week ago) and chatting online and had it "escalated" multiple times. I was hoping my experience was isolated; apparently it isn't.
I love my Moto X and I love Moto's new life, but they need to get their support together NOW or they are going to lose customers. I was about as patient and happy and trusting of a customer as they could ever expect and they have completely drained all of that good will.
tll;dr Moto needs to work on support. If you RMA a phone ride their butts and make sure it gets done.
Update: Just got a call. They are now replacing my phone with a free case. I now have to wait 24-48 hours to get my code.
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I have had a HELL of an experience with my phone RMA. First they said they would replace it, then changed their minds and said they would fix it. They have had my phone for 15 days and they haven't even entered it into the RMA system. I have spent hours and hours on the phone and chatting online and had it "escalated" multiple times. I was hoping my experience was isolated; apparently it isn't.
I love my Moto X and I love Moto's new life, but they need to get their support together NOW or they are going to lose customers. I was about as patient and happy and trusting of a customer as they could ever expect and they have completely drained all of that good will.
tll;dr Moto needs to work on support. If you RMA a phone ride their butts and make sure it gets done.
Update: Just got a call. They are now replacing my phone with a free case. I now have to wait 24-48 hours to get my code.
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yeppers... that is definitely where i see my issues heading. i am about to give them a call. i assume you had an rma number when you sent it in and they just now opened the fedex box? on a side note... i was thinking about just ordering one and having them put a hold on my card since it is taking so long. but after your story i dont think that would be the wisest thing for me to do.
I would definitely not recommend doing that lol. Just make sure that you call them and let them know exactly how late they are. Also, MotoMaker support doesn't work weekends (I think). At least the phone number only works Mon-Fri. I would call them up right now if you have the chance and get things moving now before they get any later.
All I'm saying is that I really hope my code comes on time. I've already had to wait longer than I owned the phone and I would like it back. Also, I've been forced on to a shattered iPhone 4S so yeah....I've suffered enough lol.
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I would definitely not recommend doing that lol. Just make sure that you call them and let them know exactly how late they are. Also, MotoMaker support doesn't work weekends (I think). At least the phone number only works Mon-Fri. I would call them up right now if you have the chance and get things moving now before they get any later.
All I'm saying is that I really hope my code comes on time. I've already had to wait longer than I owned the phone and I would like it back. Also, I've been forced on to a shattered iPhone 4S so yeah....I've suffered enough lol.
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lmao. same boat here my friend. i dropped mine on day five. sixteen inch drop. shattered my phone. it took four days of calling and IMs before they would give me an rma. i actually told them on day four that i was not getting off of the phone until they sorted it out and got me an rma number. and as of now i have been without my phone for seven days. i am back to my old gs2 that needs to be reset with a passion.
good luck. ill reply back in a bit after i have called them.
edit: they started building my phone on a saturday morning at 2am. finished on sunday morning 1:07am. i just put two and two together.
edit #2: just got off of the phone with them. he tried to tell me that i got an email stating that the phone had been sent to me and i should have it by the end of the week. which was a complete lie. so i got irritated and got a bit louder. explained to him the situation and that he did not need to escalate it to motomaker support because it was his office that gave me the rma. and that they specifically told me, when they called me back after i talked to a lady with motomaker support, to ignore anything that might come from motomaker support.
at the end... he said, "'rest assured', we have your case in the works and you will be contacted by motomaker support within the next 24 hours." i said, "so in other words there is nothing you can do and i am just screwed."
he also asked me for the tracking number. which means they have not scanned my phone back into the system. i feel powerless and i dont like it. i feel like my only recourse is to start talking negatively about motorola and the moto x on all of the tech sites i comment on. so i can warn people on what they are in for.
tl;dr - im not happy and moto support blows.
so wait you dropped the phone and broke it, and are posting on here to whine that they are taking a while to RMA a phone that you broke.
why do so many of you idiots come and post about RMAing stuff that you damaged on your own. is XDA the new, whine about how clumsy i am and entitled to feel that i should get replacements for my own stupidity place now?
physicaly damage usually isnt covered, maybe that is why they are having a hard time getting your RMA.
i bought a t-mobile XT1053 , had a small defect on it and decided to return it. talked to the guy on the chat, mailed them the phone refund cleared in about a week. no problems.
i paid for the motocare. this means they send me a device while i am sending mine back in for repair. which is what i hoped would have happened. but it didnt. my imei kept erroring out in their system. which is in no way my fault at all. so they wanted to do it this way instead. also... the email i received from motorola said they would be giving me my code as soon as they received the device. THAT WAS DAYS AGO! so get off your high horse fool!
had they told me it was going to take this long when i got my rma... i would have no room to *****. had they not sent me an email stating they would have the code to me the next day... i would have no reason to *****. had the lady on the phone not told me they should have had my code to me the next day, i would have no reason to *****. i made this post to find out what other people's times were.nothing more. nothing less. what happens after the op just happens.
rma email:
"We've started the return process for your Moto X -- here's your return authorization number RMA# 130926-xxxxxx. Watch for a seperate email from FedEx with your pre-printed shipping label.
As soon as we've received your Moto X we'll send you a new Moto X code to use on Motomaker. Let's get this right!
If you have any questions, give us a call 800-734-5870, we're up all night." <--- and they cant proofread either.
the delivery:
- 9/26/2013 - Thursday
10:20 am
Delivered
Fort Worth, TX
in case you missed it above... they still have not scanned the phone into their system.... six days later. so yah... im gonna ***** a bit if the opportunity arises. you mind?
well looky here, looky here. i guess the phone call worked. hope to be gettin my pin pretty soon.
Motorola - Order Confirmation
Thanks for shopping with Motorola. We've been communicated by our Logistics that your return has been received on our warehouse. We will now proceed with the required activity and will keep you informed.
edit: got my code last night. thank you for the advice rubiksmoose
Hi all,
I imported a Z3 Compact from Handtec and received around 10/3 or so - so about 3 weeks ago. I noticed over the weekend that the magnetic charger wasn't charging my phone, and then after looking at it and playing with it a little bit, the magnetic charger was lifting a the charging section "module" out of the phone... and then it came out entirely. Looks like it's just glued in. I looked around and it looks like this is a semi-rare issue (as I had to look on z2 forums etc) and so probably a manufacturing thing. I contacted Handtec and they accepted a return, but with return type "repair". At this point I'd rather get a refund and order from Sony USA if I still intend to keep this phone. I saw the one page on returns on their website and it's pretty vague and mentions 14 days, but then after some googling I came across their terms and conditions that state that i have 30 days to return for a refund - can anyone with experience here confirm what's real here? I want to push the issue if I'm within my rights.
Thanks.
edit: i think i'm wrong - it looks like it's just 14 days. i guess i'll post a response if anything else changes here.
mohlsen8 said:
Hi all,
I imported a Z3 Compact from Handtec and received around 10/3 or so - so about 3 weeks ago. I noticed over the weekend that the magnetic charger wasn't charging my phone, and then after looking at it and playing with it a little bit, the magnetic charger was lifting a the charging section "module" out of the phone... and then it came out entirely. Looks like it's just glued in. I looked around and it looks like this is a semi-rare issue (as I had to look on z2 forums etc) and so probably a manufacturing thing. I contacted Handtec and they accepted a return, but with return type "repair". At this point I'd rather get a refund and order from Sony USA if I still intend to keep this phone. I saw the one page on returns on their website and it's pretty vague and mentions 14 days, but then after some googling I came across their terms and conditions that state that i have 30 days to return for a refund - can anyone with experience here confirm what's real here? I want to push the issue if I"m within my rights.
Thanks.
edit: i think i'm wrong - it looks like it's just 14 days. i guess i'll post a response if anything else changes here.
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Sucks and is weird. Keep us posted. Contact Sony U.S. too and see if they will help....
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phositadc said:
Sucks and is weird. Keep us posted. Contact Sony U.S. too and see if they will help....
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I'm glad you mentioned trying Sony USA. Based on what I read, I thought they were just telling people who imported to go take a hike, so I wasn't even going to go there, but I just got off the phone with them and they gave me no issue whatsoever giving me an RMA. 14 business day turnaround time.. average time.. but whatever. It's better all around than dealing with shipping back to Handtec and having them ship to Sony.
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I'm glad you mentioned trying Sony USA. Based on what I read, I thought they were just telling people who imported to go take a hike, so I wasn't even going to go there, but I just got off the phone with them and they gave me no issue whatsoever giving me an RMA. 14 business day turnaround time.. average time.. but whatever. It's better all around than dealing with shipping back to Handtec and having them ship to Sony.
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Awesome good to know. I've seen 3 reports (including you) if people trying to get support from Sony U.S.A., and now 2 were successful.
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phositadc said:
Awesome good to know. I've seen 3 reports (including you) if people trying to get support from Sony U.S.A., and now 2 were successful.
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I never received my RMA info from Sony so I had to go into another chat with a rep. This one was a little more interested in location information. Sounds like everything is ok still but he added the below. Got the RMA email while on the phone with him.
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Me: Ok. Then everything is set and I just follow those instructions? I think I just received the email
Agent: Yes, that is correct sir, don't you worry, but I need to clarify that since your phone is from UK, the service center does not have a time frame to return it back from repair becuase they could be requesting parts to the original market that the phone was made for
Me: Ok. Would it be much longer than a usual time frame?
Agent: Yes, that is correct, the regular time frame would be 14 business days but in this case it will be longer than that, we cannot specify how long
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in case anyone cares, sony received phone on 10/30, logged it 10/31 (this is their "received" date), and shipped it back out to me on 11/04. looks pretty good now, so we'll see. there was zero communication throughout this. it would've been nice to know they received the phone, and also that they shipped it back - it sat with UPS for 2 extra days because they couldn't deliver and i didn't see the door tag. so i'd recommend anyone in my situation to follow-up with them frequently.
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in case anyone cares, sony received phone on 10/30, logged it 10/31 (this is their "received" date), and shipped it back out to me on 11/04. looks pretty good now, so we'll see. there was zero communication throughout this. it would've been nice to know they received the phone, and also that they shipped it back - it sat with UPS for 2 extra days because they couldn't deliver and i didn't see the door tag. so i'd recommend anyone in my situation to follow-up with them frequently.
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And the waiting continues. I sent it in with a SIM tray, and it was returned without one, making it unusable as a phone. Had to contact them, setup another RMA, was given another 14 business day turnaround time, all for them to send me the little black piece of plastic they removed when I sent my phone to them. This is all unbelievable. I've owned the phone for all of 4-5 weeks.
Either use Twitter or carpet bomb them via email
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mohlsen8 said:
And the waiting continues. I sent it in with a SIM tray, and it was returned without one, making it unusable as a phone. Had to contact them, setup another RMA, was given another 14 business day turnaround time, all for them to send me the little black piece of plastic they removed when I sent my phone to them. This is all unbelievable. I've owned the phone for all of 4-5 weeks.
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still ongoing. they stopped responding to my emails for the last 3 or 4 days. finally i got into a chat with them and really gave them an earful about how this should've been a simple, quick thing. the guy followed up with me after the chat and let me know that he received a tracking number that shows it was delivered already the night before. again, no communication there.
then i get the package, open it up and it's a Micro SIM tray.... not Nano SIM. you think they would know this. now I'm back to waiting for them to respond to me. this is a f*cking sh*tshow at this point.
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still ongoing. they stopped responding to my emails for the last 3 or 4 days. finally i got into a chat with them and really gave them an earful about how this should've been a simple, quick thing. the guy followed up with me after the chat and let me know that he received a tracking number that shows it was delivered already the night before. again, no communication there.
then i get the package, open it up and it's a Micro SIM tray.... not Nano SIM. you think they would know this. now I'm back to waiting for them to respond to me. this is a f*cking sh*tshow at this point.
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Oh my god, are you ****ing kidding?
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Oh my god, are you ****ing kidding?
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Nope. Figured I'd check in and update this again. It's been 43 days since I sent my phone in. About 30-35 days of looking at it as a paperweight on my desk. I spent a few weeks emailing and calling a few times a day. I was promised that a manager would call me back multiple times, but no one ever did. One day in the last week of November, I called at 9am, was promised a manager would call me back. No one did. Called at 2pm, the person on the phone set up a time for a manger to call me back - at 3. No one called. Called back at 4pm, and had someone say they were personally taking ownership of my case and convince me that they were going to do everything they could to help me, even gave me their name. Not like it helped when I emailed or called after that. I've been tweeting to Sony Support and Sony Xperia and they took my info but that was it really. Late last week a guy named Josh from Consumer Relations called me and said he was following up on a phone survey I took after one of my calls.. basically where I trashed Sony and their customer service and begged someone to call me. He told me he was having a SIM Tray overnighted to me. And he did... and actually, there were two UPS packages sent again (first time there were two of the same sent as well for some weird reason). Awesome... until I opened the packages and found Micro SIM Trays again. Even explaining this to him and how I needed Nano didn't get me anywhere. I don't have a direct number to this guy, the only number connects to a voicemail system where you leave a message, but anyway I called from the UPS parking lot and left a message and haven't heard from him yet. That was yesterday morning. I've received 4 Micro SIM Trays and have been blown off and ignored for going on 2 months soon. Now I guess I'm doing what I should've done a month ago - buy from China on Ebay.
F*ck you Sony. You f*cking suck, hard. And lost a customer. I hope my post helps someone else not deal with this complete bullsh*t. It gets tossed around a lot, but seriously, this is by far the worst customer service I've ever experienced. By far.
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F*ck you Sony. You f*cking suck, hard. And lost a customer. I hope my post helps someone else not deal with this complete bullsh*t. It gets tossed around a lot, but seriously, this is by far the worst customer service I've ever experienced. By far.
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You should post your experience with Sony to their facebook pages.
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You should post your experience with Sony to their facebook pages.
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Maybe, as yet another last ditch effort. They don't allow wall posts to be public, so who knows if they read them at all.
Edit: Yes, they are public. Nice. G+ is a nice public place too.
does anyone know of any sony email addresses i could use? i looked around, but they do as good a job hiding that stuff as they have for customer service for me. i sent a detailed account of my experience to [email protected] as well as posting on Sony Xperia's facebook page. i wish i had more email addresses to bombard.
Just keep it up, you will soon be able to open up a store selling micro sim trays. This is freaking unbelievable.
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Wow, I am actually having the EXACT same problem.
Also preordered from Handtec, and was using a Magector adaptor from Amazon, and noticed that it stopped working some nights and that it was coming out.
I am so happy that Sony USA helped you, I was worried I was out of luck unless I was willing to send it back to the UK.
Gonna call them today and see if I can get mine fixed too!
Do you know if they sent you a different phone back or the same one?
Edit: Didn't see all the problems you were having with the sim car tray though.
Going to keep it when I send it back...
Alex2x3 said:
Wow, I am actually having the EXACT same problem.
Also preordered from Handtec, and was using a Magector adaptor from Amazon, and noticed that it stopped working some nights and that it was coming out.
I am so happy that Sony USA helped you, I was worried I was out of luck unless I was willing to send it back to the UK.
Gonna call them today and see if I can get mine fixed too!
Do you know if they sent you a different phone back or the same one?
Edit: Didn't see all the problems you were having with the sim car tray though.
Going to keep it when I send it back...
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Yeah I had the same problem - the magnector adapter on amazon pulled the charging port out of my phone after 3 weeks of use. Definitely keep your SIM Tray!
My issue is actually resolved now as of today, 45 days into this mess. The Consumer Relations guy Josh eventually called me back around 3:30pm yesterday and said he was out of the office until then, and that he was going to call the service center because it seemed like they had a part number wrong - he was looking it up while on the phone with me and they had the part listed for all of the z models. Who knows if that's real because when he called back with the tracking number for a new overnight delivery, I could see the info had been sent to Fedex at 11:49am. So who knows. Especially because yesterday morning I typed up a huge detailed account of every interaction I've had with Sony since October and posted it on Facebook, G+, their consumer relations site, and the one email I found.
Anyway, I got the correct SIM tray this morning, so I'm just glad this is finally resolved. If it weren't for the SIM tray sh*tshow, I would've said this was great customer service. Phone was back in my hands in like a week and a half. And even after that, they sent me that first Micro SIM tray in like 4 or 5 days. But after that they were completely incompetent. F*ck you Sony.
To answer your questions, yes I got the same phone back. I had a tempered glass screen protector on it and it came back with it... but looks like it got some pretty hard pressure on the one corner because it's noticeably... different. Hard to describe. Like oily, if you press down hard on it you can see the impression.. it has a permanent impression across the triangular corner. Also I took a picture of the About Phone screen/IMEI before sending in to confirm.
In case you or someone else who is reading this could use it, here's all the other means of contacts I found:
[email protected]
-It doesn't look like they respond (or even check? I don't know). A lot of others saying the same thing, even though they're directed to email them at the forum site below.
http://community.sony.com/t5/Customer-Relations/bd-p/customer-relations
-This looks kind of helpful.. they at least have mods who seem to be responding and putting people in touch with people who can help them. Also great for a fun read on just how god awful their customer service really is.
Sony Xperia Customer Relations (866) 737-3366
-This dumps you into a generic voicemail. My guy's name was Josh, so I'd just say this message is for him, etc. This was how I was finally able to get this resolved.
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Anyway, I got the correct SIM tray this morning, so I'm just glad this is finally resolved. If it weren't for the SIM tray sh*tshow, I would've said this was great customer service. Phone was back in my hands in like a week and a half. And even after that, they sent me that first Micro SIM tray in like 4 or 5 days. But after that they were completely incompetent. F*ck you Sony.
To answer your questions, yes I got the same phone back. I had a tempered glass screen protector on it and it came back with it... but looks like it got some pretty hard pressure on the one corner because it's noticeably... different. Hard to describe. Like oily, if you press down hard on it you can see the impression.. it has a permanent impression across the triangular corner. Also I took a picture of the About Phone screen/IMEI before sending in to confirm.
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God damn, really seems like their customer service is ****ed.
Kinda scaring me from even dealing with them...
Do you think our magnetic ports were defective, as in are you going to keep using the magnetic charger?
I love the feature but don't want to **** up my port every month...
Did you call that number and leave a voice mail from the start, or should I start with their customer service number first?
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God damn, really seems like their customer service is ****ed.
Kinda scaring me from even dealing with them...
Do you think our magnetic ports were defective, as in are you going to keep using the magnetic charger?
I love the feature but don't want to **** up my port every month...
Did you call that number and leave a voice mail from the start, or should I start with their customer service number first?
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i'd probably go through official channels first. they seemed helpful enough when the problem was easy for them to tackle. not sure the people at the number would appreciate a cold call right away either. but hey, F 'em after my experience. that's why i posted it. most everyone I talked to at normal customer service was always nice. they just either lie, have too much on their plate, or both. josh at that number was nice and seemed to be pretty genuine and interested in getting my issue resolved.
i'm going to keep using the magnetic charger. i dunno, this is part of the reason i got the phone. i would've preferred qi, but this is a runner-up for me. no way am i taking off the port covers every day, they'll never last doing that. at least i don't think, never had a phone like this before.
but something to probably keep in mind is that the phone wasn't designed to be use with these third party chargers (so leave that out if sony asks, hah). the only magnetic charging things sony makes are the docks, i believe. there's no pulling and twisting with the magnets that i know i was doing before this happened. heck, i was using my phone here and there while it was charging.. moving it around like that had to put some pressure on it. i just never thought the thing would pop out like it did. i'm going to at least be more careful to not bother it while it's attached now.
good luck & god speed.
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Edit:
This promotion ended.
Lease and easy pay only? That's stupid.
They no longer offer a two year. Anyone on a new plan that two years gets a subsidised phone charge.
RevChappy said:
I'll make this post pretty short. Sprint is giving people early upgrade for those with the LGG4 in IB agreements.
See the attachment.
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Thank you so much! Forgive me, but I do not know all of the jargon/ acronyms used in that post.
we have two lines on a family plan that have g4s (1 yr left, phone purchased from amazon, and just got them back from LG warranty repair), can we just walk in and ask for an early upgrade (and will the employee know what we are talking about or do we need to direct them to look up some sort of memo)?
Also, would we get to keep our phones or do we have to trade them in?
Thank you so much! Until I saw this we were thinking about having t mobile buy us out...
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Thank you so much! Forgive me, but I do not know all of the jargon/ acronyms used in that post.
we have two lines on a family plan that have g4s (1 yr left, phone purchased from amazon, and just got them back from LG warranty repair), can we just walk in and ask for an early upgrade (and will the employee know what we are talking about or do we need to direct them to look up some sort of memo)?
Also, would we get to keep our phones or do we have to trade them in?
Thank you so much! Until I saw this we were thinking about having t mobile buy us out...
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You would need to go on, or call and see if you have the offer on your account for it. I have yet to see the offer personally, so I can't give you a ton of details.
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You would need to go on, or call and see if you have the offer on your account for it. I have yet to see the offer personally, so I can't give you a ton of details.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll check it out. It seems weird that some customers would get the offer and others would not... thanks again though!
Is there a date on this? I was told it expired via the Sprint reddit.
I was in there today, and they said that the offer has expired. But they also said they are re-working the offer, and it may be coming back. I'll keep you guys updated!
Is sprint telling people that the phone has a defect on the phone
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Just got a call from my local Sprint store today wanting me to come in and receive an upgrade from my LG G4 to a new phone. First, Sprint never calls me. Second, I shouldn't be eligible for an upgrade yet. And finally, I didn't even purchase the phone from the local Sprint store, I got it from Best buy. Anyone else get a call like this?
I'm in the same scenario - 2 Sprint G4's with 1 year left on a 2 Yr Agreement. Haven't heard anything from Sprint. My phone bootlooped and was handled by LG Warranty about 4 months ago. Other line still somehow hasn't perished yet, so his is SOL if his phone bootloops (cause LG warranty is over by August 1st - possibly mine too, I don't know if the warranty extends if your phone bootloops and gets replaced or not, can't remember). We got our phones through Best Buy as well. Nothing yet hear.
I would love to hear about some kind of early termination option tbh because I wanna get a S7E. Not going to LG ever again after this phone. Had everything I wanted but it's just been kind of a letdown. At least LG's warranty repair service was fast (at least for me).
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I'm in the same scenario - 2 Sprint G4's with 1 year left on a 2 Yr Agreement. Haven't heard anything from Sprint. My phone bootlooped and was handled by LG Warranty about 4 months ago. Other line still somehow hasn't perished yet, so his is SOL if his phone bootloops (cause LG warranty is over by August 1st - possibly mine too, I don't know if the warranty extends if your phone bootloops and gets replaced or not, can't remember). We got our phones through Best Buy as well. Nothing yet hear.
I would love to hear about some kind of early termination option tbh because I wanna get a S7E. Not going to LG ever again after this phone. Had everything I wanted but it's just been kind of a letdown. At least LG's warranty repair service was fast (at least for me).
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It's a known issue, so even with out insurance they have to replace it for you.
stcloud99 said:
Just got a call from my local Sprint store today wanting me to come in and receive an upgrade from my LG G4 to a new phone. First, Sprint never calls me. Second, I shouldn't be eligible for an upgrade yet. And finally, I didn't even purchase the phone from the local Sprint store, I got it from Best buy. Anyone else get a call like this?
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I believe anyone who had the device replaced by the defect easy getting targeted for the offer.
Don't you like how if your phone has the known issue, but you don't know about it or forget to get it replaced before the end of your term, you have to pay a damage fee for the known defect?
just got off the chat with sprint, it is still available if you are
"Yes, that is correct. Normally, it will only be hotter than normal if being used while charging. But since you mentioned that you are just using it as normal and not when charging, I highly suggest that the device will be physically checked by our dedicated Sprint store technicians. Yes, we currently offer advance exchange for the defective device via Repair or Warranty Exchange process, however, based on the offer, it only applies for LG G4 Device won't power on, power cycles, or freezes / fails to boot up."
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just got off the chat with sprint, it is still available if you are
"Yes, that is correct. Normally, it will only be hotter than normal if being used while charging. But since you mentioned that you are just using it as normal and not when charging, I highly suggest that the device will be physically checked by our dedicated Sprint store technicians. Yes, we currently offer advance exchange for the defective device via Repair or Warranty Exchange process, however, based on the offer, it only applies for LG G4 Device won't power on, power cycles, or freezes / fails to boot up."
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My device was already replaced last month due to the bootloop, would I still be eligible now?
Considering my device just bootlooped yesterday I intend to call Sprint about this because chat seems clueless, thanks for posting this.
would they let me simply terminate the lease and return the G4 phone without getting a new one? I want to cancel the line the lease is on.
I talked to Sprint and after talking to a couple reps they agreed to terminate the lease and let me upgrade to a different phone if I paid $100. It would usually take one business day but considering my phone is currently out of service they got it to 4 hours.
Unfortunately after a hour of talking, exchanges are only available. Lame. I even mentioned about our whole family has lg issues and we have been with you (sprint) over ten years and you cant or wouldnt contact us, but you can send me a stupid survey text everytime we call. Then i was told i could get the ugrade date reset for 100.00.