ROOT affecting OTA ? - Moto X Q&A

I have a stock Rogers Moto X and before rooting wanted to know if rooting would prevent me from successfully updating when OTA is released ..its been confirmed from a Moto exec on G+ that an update will be coming for the camera
Also as it stands the stock unrooted phone has incredible reception and signal strength ...I'm wondering if rooting will in anyway degrade this because the procedure involves flashing a prerooted kernel and I wouldn't want that kernel which determines a few things to have been affected in regards to controlling power to antenna etc and hence affect quality of reception ...
Sorry for noobish question but I haven't found an definitive answer anywhere regards this and have always read about various kernels affecting people's signal strength
As it stands the reception is incredible !! This phone is stupendously amazing with battery life and reception and all in a compact package ...that Motorola has proved can be had with an optimized OS
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You don't need to flash the kernel with superuser preinstalled, unlock the boot loader first, flash mattlgroff recovery and flash superSu , bam your rooted. No effects what so ever with signal by obtaining root, as for ota you should be fine as long as you haven't played with the system too much and someone will apost the updates anyways
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Sounds good...glad there's alternative ways to achieve root
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Radio flash question

I upgraded my radio to p3droid. Today I flashed a new rom. So I was wondering if my radio gets downgraded back to original after flashing a new rom.
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Don't honestly know the answer to whether the radio is flashed when flashing a new rom. I would expect since most radio updates appear to be separate update.zips that the rom doesn't upgrade radio. You can check under Settings>About Phone>Baseband Version. The latest I believe is C_01.3E.03P.
The radio does not get touched during a rom flash.
Thanks I noticed after checking original radio in Droid setting info and the version I have now. I forgot what the original version was but got it now. Thanks
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I do believe the latest radio does require you to have Froyo... the earlier ones should work on any ROM. And the radio can be updated when you flash an update.zip ROM. It just depends on how the Dec has it set up.
The latest is C_01.43.01P - released with FRF84B
The one before that was C_01.41.00R - released with FRF57
And before that was C_01.3E.03P - the one released with 2.1 Eclair (ESE81)
-AdamZ
Thanks. The only thing with new radio is it drops down to 1G alot. It sucks because it always seems to do it when I'm doing something important or downloading. Other wise it works much better than the original one I had.
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I am currently on stock 2.1. The baseband since the update gives me a lot of issues at home 3g and switching to 1x. The new froyo rom should give me an updated baseband when it comes right? Otherwise I will have to get the previous basebands installed and root my phone?
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No, I had similar question but when flashing roms it doesn't touch the baseband. I also have that issue mine drops to 1x alot also and is frustrating. But the older ones when I do searches on the internet it take almost 30 seconds for data transfer to start. The latest is quicker at that but the 1x drop is frustrating. To clearify again though the only way the baseband is updated or downgraded is by flashing it through an update zip or ota update. Roms don't affect it.
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I should also add after flashing a rom, try reprogramming the phone by *228. It seems to help when I have issues after new rom. Also I installed a data disable widget. When it drops to 1x I disable the data connection for a minute or couple seconds and reactivate it usually returns to 3g when it comes back on.
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Sprint radios?
How about using a Sprint radio on a Droid. IDK. I just got my Droid in the mail yesterday,got it rooted today and am working on checking out radio upgrades for it. I am coming from an CDMA HTC Hero200 from Sprint and with that phone we could put Verizon radio's and PRL's on them to up the coverage area and get better reception. My last one was a Sprint radio with a Verizon PRL and I had the best reception ever! Just some food for thought. If anybody has any valuable info on this I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks in advance!

New Update...VZ9

So I just received another update on my Revolution...of course it didn't work since i'm on Broken Out. Any idea what this update is??
Ditto.
I wonder what the update is.
Got the same update this morning. I defered it for 24 hrs hoping to jump on here to see if there are any ideas and solutions to getting the update while keeping root and Broken Out.
Perhaps I'll just freeze the software update.
There's root for it but no CWM or any roms yet. It's been talked about here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657813
And root is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1621625
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haven't seen any definitive info on it as yet
There is root and cwm for v9. Right now all you would be able to do is debloat the stock rom and install flashable tweaks (ie, ics tweaks, thunderbolt, etc). Unfortunately, no roms available yet for v9, but MT is working on it.
--I.M.famous
Droid Life has some info on ZV9 from a few days ago. Click the link for a screenshot from Verizon's site. Thanks drt054 in a previous thread.
The LG Revolution on Verizon has an update on the way as build VZ910ZV9. Through the update, LG has patched a security hole, improved the phone application, and fixed some text message issues. More importantly though, Verizon mentioned their new “Remote Diagnostics” customer service tool again that has raised a few eyebrows in its short life. It first debuted on the Revolution back in March, so it is sort of odd to see them bring it up again here. We aren’t sure if they are improving it or making it as public as possible as to not freak out Revolution owners. Probably the latter.
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I.M.famous XMAN said:
There is root and cwm for v9. Right now all you would be able to do is debloat the stock rom and install flashable tweaks (ie, ics tweaks, thunderbolt, etc). Unfortunately, no roms available yet for v9, but MT is working on it.
--I.M.famous
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Where is CWM fire zv9?
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OTA. Coming. With root proof kernel

I was just told by a friend of mine who's father works for Samsung that the OTA coming out for our phone has a root proof kernel. He said stay away. . I don't know why Samsung would do that . I'm waiting to find out more.
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This should be no problem as you can just flash a Stock kernel. Or the newer kernels can be made to remove this likely. Either way, since we can flash kernels, we should be ok.
its true... look at the tmobile forum.. alot of members took this update and can no longer root..
# Samsung Rooting Restriction Feature
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CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_ROOTING=y
CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_SETUID=y
CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_FORK=y
CONFIG_SEC_RESTRICT_ROOTING_LOG=y
... im sure there will be a work around this..
primo523 said:
I was just told by a friend of mine who's father works for Samsung that the OTA coming out for our phone has a root proof kernel. He said stay away. . I don't know why Samsung would do that . I'm waiting to find out more.
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Ya I don't know If it has to do with sprint. They've been talking about this for a while over in the original international s4 forum.
a permanent solution is being worked on, til its available if you want root you will have newest rom and stock kernel. thats all (until kernel source is released )
I already OTA updated. Sprint better not pull any shenanigans
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Just a heads up from the tmobile forum, newest firmware + stock kernel = wifi issues and app issues. newest firmware + newest kernel = no root. Obviously this is just tmobile users reporting, but I would have to think it would be similar for us. If you don't like the update, about 95% sure you can odin back to stock firmware without any issue. I personally will wait till source drops and a work around is in place.
On a brighter note, most/all people who have taken the plunge and updated, are reporting performance increases in transitions. Here's to hoping the occasional stutter/lag is gone!
I'm going to put this here as I did in the 2 other ota threads.. would someone please grab a log of the link (or grab the download prior to try to install) if they are getting propmted so we can get this to look at?
A bunch of people talking about it, no one trying to get it?
Update zip posted here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2269426
This update got rid of my red hue on black backgrounds.
However, it added the purple blur issue
It also made it a lot smoother. I don't have to mess with my developer animation settings anymore
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With the new update and Samsung new feature to prevent root S4 needs a new "Root Keeper Kernel" with those new features disabled.
Edit:
It's Already done.
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Looks like there's still work to do to fix the notification that it's rooted. I'll wait a few days before flashing and rooting like crazy.

Flashing 4.2.2 over 4.3

Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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It's because I like to have all the possibilities to personalise nz phone, and Roms like MIUI won't get 4.3 support in the next time it's just my opinion
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4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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It is possible with custom recovery, not possible with fastboot without updating the bootloader. You may use any modem. You need 4.3 kernel.
EDIT: my bad, it was other way around. Yes, it is possible.
4.3 stinks like hot garbage. I'm not upgrading, and I'm going to downgrade my new N7 to 4.2.2 if possible. 4.3 is like windows ME.
I still have 4.2.2 on my N4 and have only tried 4.3 on my Kindle Fire. From my experience I have little interest in upgrading my N4 for the time being, since 4.3.x will likely fix all the JSS and JWR issues.
Fatherboard said:
4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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I think your problem is caused by your usage pattern / apps which are not updated for 4.3, combined with unstable root. Don't blame Google unless you experience the same behaviour on unrooted stock.
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Wrong.
I experienced those crashes while on stock, even with google applications. that's a faulty release, not faulty device nor usage. for god sake, even "settings" menu has "unexpectedly closed" on me once.
Misledz said:
Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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I think it'd be more like going back to Windows 7 Sp1 from Windows 8
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I have had totally different experience with 4.2.2. To be honest I didn't like it at all. I didn't find it as "rock solid" as many other users here. (I came from Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 compared to really rock solid jzo54k 4.1.2 was imo buggy as hell. It didn't bring any performance boost but rather did the opposite: BT, WIFI issues, mem leak etc.) Plus I found this low touch sensitivity extremaly irritating. I use rooted stock 4.3 and so far I haven't noticed any bigger issues. Even if I do I really don't see a point to go back to still buggy 4.2.2. I think my device performs much better on 4.3. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it feels snappier and smoother. Just my subjective opinion.
Of course I do understand people that miss their favorite custom roms, whose 4.3-versions are still unavailable.
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Maybe that's been your experience but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's made my N4 even more of a pleasure to use. It's smoother, snappier, and battery life is amazing. Mind you, I've never really had any problems with 4.2.2 except maybe GPS locking problems, which 4.3 solved. The only real problem with 4.3 is this whole JWR/JSS nonsense.
Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Not sure what's going on your end but my phone has been rock solid with no FCs at all since upgrading to 4.3 using the factory image (I never go the OTA route)
In case you're both running a stock 4.3 (unrooted), you're more than welcomed to run "angry gran run - running game" by ace viral and watch it boldly & proudly crash. If not on beginning, after few minutes. Just only one example out of many.
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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You can flash a 4.3 rom in recovery, but its recommended to flash radio and bootloader in recovery.
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DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Android 4.3 ROMs require radio version .84 (or a hybrid 27/84 or 33/84 radio) and bootloader version makoz20i. As Thibaultvw points out radio version .84 and bootloader version makoz20i are both available as flashable zip files and should both be installed before installing a 4.3 based ROM. In addition, Android 4.3 requires SuperSU version 1.51 for working root privileges.
After upgrading the radio and bootloader for Android 4.3, you can restore or install an Android 4.2.2 ROM without changing the bootloader or radio.
frajobs said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Give it a hard go bud lemme know how it works!

Phones giving me major problems ever since rooting

Ever since i rooted my phone i have been having and noticing more problems or getting worse and i am just wondering if it is because i rooted it, the phone itself, or maybe it was not rooted the right way or a proper way. I had a friend do it and needless to say hes off in his own little world half the time. Thats besides the point though the problems I am having are the touchscreen does not work half the time i have to tap on it a bunch of times for it to even register another one is i click apps and they will not open once again i have to keep hitting them if they open at all. Apps stop working and force close all the time along with the whole phone just freezing up on me. The keyboard doesnt work half the time and usually when something wont work it will just force close on me. I thought when i rooted my pphone it was gonna work better and be faster but so far i have had nothing but problems and i have had 6 maybe 7 roms flashed onto it and every single one the same thing. before it wasnt great but now it frustrates me so much i wanna just throw it out the window. Any help would be greatly appreciated and im a newbie at this so if you could explain things to me id once again appreciate it.
Rooting a phone gives you access to system files and should not affect the phone functions. Did you do anything after rooting? I think you need to find out how it was rooted.
Perhaps you could tell us which process you used to root?
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Best way to troubleshoot this is by unrooting the phone by using the RsdLite tool to go stock again. Then go to the Original Developer section and download the rooting method by djrbliss to start over. Thats how i always fix my problems
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I bet your issues would be resolved if you flashed a custom ROM. If you don't want to do that though, then you can just RSD Lite back to stock Jellybean. WARNING: You need to look up Myth Tools and use it to unlock your bootloader before you attempt flashing anything of any kind. I have seen several on this forum hard brick due to trying RSD Lite on locked bootloaders.
thank you everyone for the advice i had no idea i could turn my phone back stock i am going to do that now and follow the instructions to re root it that is exactly what i wanted thank you. I have tryed everything my latest rom is pacbam which is nice i like it alot but it still messes up after that i flashed a better kernel and pure performance i found it in the thread of PacBam but they havent done much.
The name of the rom is ProBam my bad
Stick with ProBAM kernel as it works great. All you have to do is to tweak the phone with CrossBreeder and Android Tweaker Mod for play store. Get Init support and your phone will fly
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SVLAN said:
Stick with ProBAM kernel as it works great. All you have to do is to tweak the phone with CrossBreeder and Android Tweaker Mod for play store. Get Init support and your phone will fly
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I posted something earlier about my phone being stuck at the bootload unlocked screen and i came back to this post to try to go back to stock while i wait for a response so maybe ill have a phone but I was using ProBam and that gave me problems also i am now wondering at this point if its just my phone but you said to get CrossBreeder and Android Tweaker what are those exactly and what do they do or help?
Do you have an unlocked bootloader and cwm installed? I assume you do since you're running a custom rom.

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