Probably a Firmware/OS bug! - Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi!
The story begins with me switching from my iPhone 4s to HTC 8X cause i found the WP platform and devices realy intresting and so i decided to try it!The HTC 8X from the 1st day begun to overheat and cause a related massive battery consumption 10-20 mins after beginning to play games of every kind (from Asphalt 7 to angry birds) and with some apps! The battery consumption when the phone was heating very much could reach a discharge rate of 30-35%/hour!!!!.I contacted HTC i ve sent the phone 3 times for service and the third and last time HTC changed the motherboard and battery but the issue didn't disappeared.After that HTC guaranted that the hardware is in perfect working order and is not causing the issue but i dont believed them so i decide to try my luck with Lumia 920!
But gues what!?!?!? I encountered the exact same problem on my lumia 920 from the 1st day i bought it so i guess after all that this is a software issue mainly cause by an OS or Firmware bug.Can anyone with more experience tell me if i m right?
I dont believe that both devices had hardware problem so it must be the OS (that is very buggy) or the Firmware.
Also has anybody heard anything about an update-fix from Microsoft or NOKIA or at least will any fix included on GDR3.
Please i need your knowledge and help people!!
P.S it's sad to see a so amazing device like Lumia 920 with a promising OS like WP to discharge (2000mAh batt) faster than my old 4s (1430mAh)

my Lumia 920 work perfectly without overheating or fast battery drain... you cant blame whole line because few rotten "apples" also is possible some series with bad hardware (this is risk of mass production "made in china")... for example in my country no problems who purchased Lumia 920 from VIP operator but many people which purchased from Hungarian shop in Croatia cheaper Lumia 920 have many problems with fast discharge and overheating.
hehehe you have extra bad luck or dont know to use it right...

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dxdy said:
my Lumia 920 work perfectly without overheating or fast battery drain... you cant blame whole line because few rotten "apples" also is possible some series with bad hardware (this is risk of mass production "made in china")... for example in my country no problems who purchased Lumia 920 from VIP operator but many people which purchased from Hungarian shop in Croatia cheaper Lumia 920 have many problems with fast discharge and overheating.
hehehe you have extra bad luck or dont know to use it right...
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I don't think i have extra bad luck.I can't imagine two phones from different manufacturers surrering from the same issue.And we are not talkin for one incident but the are many people like me suffering from the same issue!So can't believe it's a hardware issue.
Could this be a bug?Isn't it more logic?

GearDoGi said:
Hi!
The story begins with me switching from my iPhone 4s to HTC 8X cause i found the WP platform and devices realy intresting and so i decided to try it!The HTC 8X from the 1st day begun to overheat and cause a related massive battery consumption 10-20 mins after beginning to play games of every kind (from Asphalt 7 to angry birds) and with some apps! The battery consumption when the phone was heating very much could reach a discharge rate of 30-35%/hour!!!!.I contacted HTC i ve sent the phone 3 times for service and the third and last time HTC changed the motherboard and battery but the issue didn't disappeared.After that HTC guaranted that the hardware is in perfect working order and is not causing the issue but i dont believed them so i decide to try my luck with Lumia 920!
But gues what!?!?!? I encountered the exact same problem on my lumia 920 from the 1st day i bought it so i guess after all that this is a software issue mainly cause by an OS or Firmware bug.Can anyone with more experience tell me if i m right?
I dont believe that both devices had hardware problem so it must be the OS (that is very buggy) or the Firmware.
Also has anybody heard anything about an update-fix from Microsoft or NOKIA or at least will any fix included on GDR3.
Please i need your knowledge and help people!!
P.S it's sad to see a so amazing device like Lumia 920 with a promising OS like WP to discharge (2000mAh batt) faster than my old 4s (1430mAh)
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The only huge battery hog I've seen on my Lumia is Bluetooth... if it's enabled and I'm listening to music (Slacker, primarily), then I drain at least 30% per hour. Otherwise, the display is the big culprit for me. No heating up though...
Also, apps that make heavy use of the GPU are going to eat away at your battery no matter what. You're going to be lucky to get 3 hours playing any game that is graphics intensive (and that does include Angry Birds).

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Help me...anyone?

Hi,
I just got an unlocked HD7 a week back, and am loving it!!
I upgraded from a 3GS and have a Galaxy S alongside, so it was a frivolous by for me, but I don't regret it. i'm a music on phone fanatic, and the HD7's music quality is excellent!!
But the only thing that is really pissing me off is the battery life. It barely lasts me 15 hours even on moderate usage.I've turned everything off, even data connectivity and only use wifi if required.The screen is set to auto brightness as its really difficult to read the screen in sunlight.Otherwise the only thing i use the phone for is sending texts and occasional calls, and some music playback through wired earphones.
Anyone has any tips and tricks up their sleeves to help extend the battery life.I'm sing the stock battery.And, yes I've seen the extended battery..the one which is rated at 3900mAh...bt I'd rather sell the phone than use that fugly thing.
Please help me...
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Hi,
I just got an unlocked HD7 a week back, and am loving it!!
I upgraded from a 3GS and have a Galaxy S alongside, so it was a frivolous by for me, but I don't regret it. i'm a music on phone fanatic, and the HD7's music quality is excellent!!
But the only thing that is really pissing me off is the battery life. It barely lasts me 15 hours even on moderate usage.I've turned everything off, even data connectivity and only use wifi if required.The screen is set to auto brightness as its really difficult to read the screen in sunlight.Otherwise the only thing i use the phone for is sending texts and occasional calls, and some music playback through wired earphones.
Anyone has any tips and tricks up their sleeves to help extend the battery life.I'm sing the stock battery.And, yes I've seen the extended battery..the one which is rated at 3900mAh...bt I'd rather sell the phone than use that fugly thing.
Please help me...
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I know its sometimes considered a load of made up nonsense but I get 18 hours now easily with heavy usage, and a few days with nothing on, and all i've done is simply kill the battery and charge it, the battery is a pain at the start (i know someone who ordered a Desire HD and took it back without speaking to me and there now kicking themselves, and when I got my HD7 in march if i got 6 hours out of the thing it was a miracle) and that has the same battery, but if you just train it and let the phone get used to how you use it, the battery will last a lot longer, plus it also depends on your software version, NoDo version: 7390 is the best at the moment for battery life so having that on board is also a good move
Hope this helps
Thanks for your reply.
I've actually tried it once or twice,inadvertently, because the phone died on me as the battery ran out.
HTC could have packed in a better battery.It wold have been awesome that way.
meet_death said:
Thanks for your reply.
I've actually tried it once or twice,inadvertently, because the phone died on me as the battery ran out.
HTC could have packed in a better battery.It wold have been awesome that way.
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yeah they could, had a few android phones in my time and my motorola milestone suffered with a 1500 mAh battery, and more closer to home the battery life is terrible on the EVO 4G and thats also got a 1500mAh, and the same processor.
HTC just seem to be going downhill, with them locking their bootloaders and such. Shame really
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yeah they could, had a few android phones in my time and my motorola milestone suffered with a 1500 mAh battery, and more closer to home the battery life is terrible on the EVO 4G and thats also got a 1500mAh, and the same processor.
HTC just seem to be going downhill, with them locking their bootloaders and such. Shame really
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You gotta think as well, its not ALL on HTC. it also depends on the carriers. if they want the bootloader locked them so be it. look at motorola, you cant even install 3rd party apps, as well as some samsucks. Microsoft even had a problem updateding the samsung focus. HTC has been the best so far.. i just cant wait till Nokia or Acer starts making/releasing their WP7.
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You gotta think as well, its not ALL on HTC. it also depends on the carriers. if they want the bootloader locked them so be it. look at motorola, you cant even install 3rd party apps, as well as some samsucks. Microsoft even had a problem updateding the samsung focus. HTC has been the best so far.. i just cant wait till Nokia or Acer starts making/releasing their WP7.
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It says alot if HTC are locking (Sensation/Thunderbolt/Droid Incredible S/2 are all locked sadly), and the original companies that used to like Motorola (August Starting) And Sony Ericsson (Xperia Play/Arc/Neo/Mini/Mini Pro Are All Unlockable) are stopping locking their bootloaders, its all fine if carriers want to lock phones down but the people who buy unlocked phones should get an unlocked bootloader as well. HTC are brilliant, i'm not saying that, but if one of the only reasons (I'm not saying there aren't others by the way) people went to buy HTC was cause they were developer friendly and now they're not, its going to dent their sales.
And take the Motorola Droid/Milestone into account, if it was all carriers then why wasn't the droid locked? cause the milestone is but the droid isn't. And I could always install 3rd party apps on my Motorola, same as all my Androids, the only company that didnt allow you to was AT&T and there stopping to do this, The new mammoth samsung allows 3rd party apps.
But yeah I agree with you, really can't wait to see what nokia unveils, its got to be good, as this could kill them
there is no idea to deal with the phone ,because the phone has a lot fuction more than the others.

[Q] Should I get a Lumia 520?

hey guys
ive been using a nexus s for the past few years, and i've enjoyed android, but ive realized to get a fast android you need to spend money. nexus s is good, but ive found it really slow and painful. also its broken now.
so what i now want to know is should i get a windows phone? ive heard they are fast and dont have to be very expensive. ive been looking at the lumia 520 and it looks pretty damn good for its price. if theres something better for about $200 australian please let me know here
The 520 is well worth it's money. Sure, you have to sacrifice a couple of things, but it's still miles ahead of similarly priced Android devices.
My sister bought one recently, she switched from Galaxy Mini, so obviously she's impressed with the phone's performance. Hell, I have an 820 for about a year now, and I was impressed with the 520. It really is a solid device all around, it even got the "Best low-cost smartphone award" at the MWC, so that tells you something.
520 is definitely a good starting point for trying out WP. On the other hand, you could go for the 620, it's similarly priced, but has some advantages. Have a look online and compare them and you'll see what suits you best...
Yeah.... not sure what the price of something like the 620 is in Aus, but it's worth looking around a bit. There aren't that many WP8 devices anyhow; you could basically compare them all on one page if you ignore minor variations.
The 520 is one of the lowest-end WP8 devices out there. It lacks quite a few things that are otherwise standard, like a camera flash LED, and has the minimum RAM that Microsoft allows (which means some games will not run on it). On the other hand, it performs all the core features of the OS, and runs most apps, quite well.
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The 520 is well worth it's money. Sure, you have to sacrifice a couple of things, but it's still miles ahead of similarly priced Android devices.
My sister bought one recently, she switched from Galaxy Mini, so obviously she's impressed with the phone's performance. Hell, I have an 820 for about a year now, and I was impressed with the 520. It really is a solid device all around, it even got the "Best low-cost smartphone award" at the MWC, so that tells you something.
520 is definitely a good starting point for trying out WP. On the other hand, you could go for the 620, it's similarly priced, but has some advantages. Have a look online and compare them and you'll see what suits you best...
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thats good to hear, thanks. ive done a bit more googling and just found out nokia has released the lumia 525, which has 1gb of ram compared to the 520's 512mb. the most annoying thing is it hasnt been released in australia yet. do you know if a windows phone like this bought online (unlocked) would work here... ive had problems with flashing the wrong radios on my nexus before, is there something similar that could occur in the windows os? ive always been cautious with buying online and there always seems to be a bigger risk with support and returning products
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thats good to hear, thanks. ive done a bit more googling and just found out nokia has released the lumia 525, which has 1gb of ram compared to the 520's 512mb. the most annoying thing is it hasnt been released in australia yet. do you know if a windows phone like this bought online (unlocked) would work here... ive had problems with flashing the wrong radios on my nexus before, is there something similar that could occur in the windows os? ive always been cautious with buying online and there always seems to be a bigger risk with support and returning products
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According to my research, Australia uses GSM-900 and 1800 bands, as does all of Europe, Africa, middle east and most of Asia. So if you're planning on buying the phone online, make sure it supports these two bands and that it's carrier unlocked and unbranded. As for 3G, Australia uses bands 1, 5 and 8. Other than that, you should be fine.
I forgot to mention the 525, so if you can, get that instead of the 520. Although RAM is the only difference, at least you'll be able to play all games, and it costs mostly the same.
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According to my research, Australia uses GSM-900 and 1800 bands, as does all of Europe, Africa, middle east and most of Asia. So if you're planning on buying the phone online, make sure it supports these two bands and that it's carrier unlocked and unbranded. Other than that, you should be fine.
I forgot to mention the 525, so if you can, get that instead of the 520. Although RAM is the only difference, at least you'll be able to play all games, and it costs mostly the same.
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thanks a bunch, but one more question, have you shopped for phones online before? and if so, where do you recommend i should shop?
Not really, someone else would probably be of more help than me...
I've had my 521 for few months now and have been very happy with it. Its the sister phone of the 520.
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I got mine (ATIV S, which is one of the more hackable WP8 models) off Amazon, but there are plenty of options.
I have the Lumia 520.. definitely worth the money. Camera is extremely good despite lack of flash, and it feels faster than my Nexus 4 more often than not.
lukazar said:
hey guys
ive been using a nexus s for the past few years, and i've enjoyed android, but ive realized to get a fast android you need to spend money. nexus s is good, but ive found it really slow and painful. also its broken now.
so what i now want to know is should i get a windows phone? ive heard they are fast and dont have to be very expensive. ive been looking at the lumia 520 and it looks pretty damn good for its price. if theres something better for about $200 australian please let me know here
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Hey, I recommend you very much, I have a Lumia 520 and it's pretty cool.
200$ is very much, you can get it for 60$ (for AT&T, with unlock code $90): http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Lumia-520-GoPhone-AT/dp/B00E45043A/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393866160&sr=8-1&keywords=lumia+520
I would recommend Lumia 525. It is running Black (GDR3+Nokia features) and have 1GB RAM but has no LED flash. You may also look to 820 that has a better display and cam and priced about 280$ US in Russia (or 10000ք (Russian roubles)) also it`s no longer produced so you`ll probably need to find it
I like my Lumia 520 but the lack of a file manager, flash, and a better selection of apps were a bit disappointing. Also every time I turn on my phone I get an SD card warning even though my SD card is perfectly healthy and fine and works in both my computer and my secondary android phone. I reallllly am hoping 8.1 dramatically improves the phone.
slyr114 said:
Also every time I turn on my phone I get an SD card warning even though my SD card is perfectly healthy and fine and works in both my computer and my secondary android phone. I reallllly am hoping 8.1 dramatically improves the phone.
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That could be a defective unit, doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with the entire line of phones or even the OS itself...
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That could be a defective unit, doesn't necessarily indicate a problem with the entire line of phones or even the OS itself...
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Yes I realize my phone is most likely defective in that regard but I was not saying its a problem in the entire line of Lumias or even this specific model, just my personal experience. As for the last part about 8.1 improving the phone, that was just an in general thought, I really hope the new update improves everything I love about the phone and fixes what I do not. Also can anyone recommend a good music player with good playlist building support? The default music app is kind of convoluted in creating playlists right now.
Hi there, and good to see another potential convert!
I'm Kenneth, and I've been using a Nokia Lumia 620 for almost a year now, and I have been a Nokia user from the womb 'til the tomb. I've used the Lumia 710 as well for about half a year prior to my 620, so almost 1.5 years using Windows Phone. I have used both Android and iOS and have settled for Windows Phone because it just felt natural to me.
Anyway, enough of romanticizing my relationship with my Lumia 620. However, the Lumia 620 has the same internals as the Lumia 520, i.e. CPU, RAM, storage. Even though the specs are absolute bare minimums on the Lumia 520 and the Lumia 620, I've noticed that those phones are extremely snappy. They run majority of apps from the Store, however, not all that require 1GB+ RAM, which is a small minority. Furthermore, usually Windows Phone apps that require 1GB of RAM will get optimized to run on low-mem devices.
If you disregard what the specifications look like on paper, however, my phone has barely lagged with Windows Phone even though it uses the bare-minimum specs. Using Windows Phone is a very rewarding experience with constant updates that are quite uniform between all Windows Phone devices, with a few pretty quirks from Nokia if you have the Lumia series devices. Also, along with a fast and snappy OS, it looks beautiful and simple. Everything works and is quite logical. It is a difference to Android and iOS, a fresh face, which gives it a somewhat unorthodox approach to a smartphone UI. The apps bundled are also good value-adds.
Currently at **** Smith the Lumia 520 is on sale for $99 locked to Telstra in Australia. However, I am not sure if the offer has expired yet. Typically it's $149 outright. The only alternative I can think of is the HTC 8S which only has 4GB internal memory which is a suicide mission on Windows Phone, whereas the Lumia 520 has 8GB. So nothing is better there. However, it is a more rewarding experience using Nokia for WP because Nokia puts a lot of effort into the Lumia series compared to HTC and Samsung.
That's all I have to say, but hope it's all logical. Would definitely recommend a Lumia 520 mate, for that price range. However, a Lumia 620 might be a better bet with the front facing camera and the LED flash - if that matters to you because I chose 620 > 520 because of that factor. However, Lumia 620 is a bit fatter, and the screen is smaller, hence making it look a tad chubby.
Good luck with your phone choice, and I hope you enjoy being a Lumian/Windows Phone user when you do purchase one.
Oh, I almost forgot - if you need 1GB RAM, I would recommend checking out the Lumia 525 from http://www.kogan.com.au/ which is about $20 more than the 520 on the same site. It comes unlocked, runs more apps than the Lumia 520/620. Choose that phone if camera flash and front facing camera isn't important from the 620.
Kind regards,
kunafpls
slyr114 said:
I like my Lumia 520 but the lack of a file manager, flash, and a better selection of apps were a bit disappointing. Also every time I turn on my phone I get an SD card warning even though my SD card is perfectly healthy and fine and works in both my computer and my secondary android phone. I reallllly am hoping 8.1 dramatically improves the phone.
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A bit of a necro but I just noticed this thread in my secondary email, and I'd like to say I have this SD card problem as well on the 525 I did end up buying. The issue could have arisen when the card actually physically got jammed in the slot, and I had to remove it with tweezers. I'd test it with other SD cards but my only other ones are formatted to my PSP. It does get really annoying sometimes.

First WP phone

Hello guys. I'm watching many reviews about the Lumia lineup and I have to say that I really like it. I was even considering to buy me a Lumia but to do that I have to sell my two phones But I think I gonna do it in the near future maybe but I wanted to ask you, what Lumia would be perfect for a Windows Phone 1st timer? I have 2 Android phones (like said above) and I like them but I have a "big" problem with one of them. When I would sell them I would have ~210$ (I know it's not much money but in my country it is much). Can you write me what are the positives and negatives of having a WP?
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Stachura5 said:
Hello guys. I'm watching many reviews about the Lumia lineup and I have to say that I really like it. I was even considering to buy me a Lumia but to do that I have to sell my two phones But I think I gonna do it in the near future maybe but I wanted to ask you, what Lumia would be perfect for a Windows Phone 1st timer? I have 2 Android phones (like said above) and I like them but I have a "big" problem with one of them. When I would sell them I would have ~210$ (I know it's not much money but in my country it is much). Can you write me what are the positives and negatives of having a WP?
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I had 3 phones with Android before going on Windows Phone and I think it's a good decision.
Pro WP:
- speed
- very rarely blocked
- after 6 months of use moves as well like begining
- Security is better
- very good camera and navigation apps
- in WP 8.1 (cortana, quiet hours, ..)
Against :
More application in Google store but you will find the usual applications also in WP store
you must wait ~ 1 month to get WP 8.1 oficial update from manufacturers( to have cortana, notification, ....)
if you want to buy nokia is an advantage in construction quality

[Q] Whether it is worth to buy xperia z in 2015

Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
Ive had mine for a year now and do not intend to replace it any time soon. It runs all the current apps and games!
If your budget is tight, then get a Moto G, or OnePlus One or Nexus 5. Plenty of well specced devices around.
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Hi to all.
I'm planing to by another phone. Budget is limited so there is not to much to pick.
Xperia seems good option because of big screen, LTE connectivity, premium design, important to me a very good camera and at the end is a flagship, but an old one, and that is my only concern.
So, my question is, should i by some newer(new) budget mid ranger or should give a try to Xperia Z? What is your experience with XZ?
Thanks
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I bought mine 1 year and a half ago, and I can't be happier.
It's an excellent phone, great processor, ram, camera, water proof, design, development ( I had Lollipop from 1st day like a Nexus ), fullhd, 5"...
No need to spend 500€ to get a "rocket" smartphone.
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Thanks guys for the reply, for now is tight.
I would like to hear more opinions of owners.
What about screen on time? Now when is for example more then one year old? I don't play heavy games, mostly surfing, taking pictures, little facebook, and a lot texting and calling. And flashing roms of course
For me everything over 3 hours is good.
U can get maximum of 4.5 hours if u r not a gamer ( my experience with games 4 hour screen on time).. May b u will get around 5 hours screen on time if u play with some tweaks..
I bought my XZ this last year in November and I couldn't be happier. Ok, screen on time is not the best out there but, at least for me, it's enough. SOT performance goes between 3-4,5 h, which IMHO I think isn't bad. You could also underclock/undervolt it in case you want to expand its autonomy a bit else.
It depends on the price you are getting at, I would say go for z1 if the price difference is minimal. I've used both, choose the one in your budget
dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
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dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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So you came here from the HTC forum, proud of that you succeeded in unlocking the achievement? I find this behaviour a tiny bit bizarre, wondering what are you trying to prove? I mean, if you worship HTC, please remain in your little temple there. There's plenty of terrorist everywhere and nobody needs another one to come, terrorise Xperia or potential Xperia users.
Back on topic:
If you like Sony, just get another Xperia. They're not going out of business anytime soon as if anyone bothered to read, they're exploring (highly unlikely though) to start a jv or selling the business to another company. Of course if that happens, which have a remote chance, you're probably still be receiving smartphone support in the new business arrangement.
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jayp57 said:
I suggest no.
Xperia Z has following cons:
- Back glas went off due to bad glue.
- CPU throtthling while gaming due to thermal problems, games start to stutter. Device is getting hot while gaming. On 4.4.4 it a little bit better.
- Wifi and Bluettooth disconnects. Search for forums with this problem. You will hate that problem when you decide to get a Smartband. There i no fix for that.
- Weak Battery. I heavily modified my stock rom with tweaks for longer lasting battery, i reduced wakelocks, etc, but still only 1,5 days only with normal use (i dont use LTE). It loses too much battery on standby.
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- Back glass just fine, over 1.5 years old
- Name one device that doesn't throttle (and doesn't stutter while throttled)
- Wifi and Bluetooth fine as long as you don't use a smartband
- Battery life is average, not really bad but nothing special either, standy is great with the right kernel
Thats my Xperience, no major problems so far.
But really better deals for the money out there.
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
the amount of money you are going to spent just get One Plus One or if you are on budget cost wait till you got abit more money to get a better device
Well, it's a wonderful phone, the main issue with it is the battery
As others said if your gaming is at minimum (1 hour Max a day) you can actually get it to work 8 hours, even more if no gaming and used the stamina mode
Other than that, it's easy to root at all times and relatively easy to flash and customize.
And it will be officially update to lollipop.
I say if z1 is in your range get it only for the battery issue.. If not the XZ is great
Z is a great device.. But u can also buy 1+1 since it has Z2 specs and a better front cam.. It lacks Water resistance like XZ though and the multimedia features won't be like a SONY.. So choose ur needs first and then select the one suitable.. Although i haven't experienced any of the issues which are mentioned in the thread yet.. I hope i won't too.. But still my XZ can beat the s**t outta One M7 & all their desire phones, any iPhone, any S**tsung.. If you are a rough handler of the phone, i suggest u to buy XZ coz its built better and 1+1 seems kinda delicate compared to Sony..
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dont buy a Sony phone, they about to go out of business lol
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Weren't you the one telling me I don't know what I'm talking about because of spelling mistakes?
G1_enthusiast has quoted you on xda-developers!
I'll believe you once you learn how to spell and put in some correct punctuation.
lol what company hire this moron? he cant even finished a sentence correctly.
I most probably will take XZ if i get good offer. But also maybe wait for month or two to see what will came out.
I also considering to buy SGS4 but i prefer Sony over Samsung. Only reason to take S4 will be the battery life. But like i said before i can live with 3+ hours of sot. Currently i'm using LG O4X which have vary bad sot. 2:30 is max that i can get. And all kind of problems with RIL, it's really "demanding" device, thanks to developers i still using him, but i think not for long.
Thanks
Azurren said:
I guess it depends on the price..
But in today's terms the XZ really isn't great. Like others have said, newer mid-range phones have overtaken the XZ.
Battery life has always been the only major drawback for me using the XZ. In this day and age you should be able to use your phone as much as you like, not holding off reading emails / replying to tweets otherwise it'll die before you get home
You're lucky to get 4 hours screen on time, it's not exactly efficient in standby mode either.
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Can you spell out some of those mid-range phones that are better than the XZ? my GF wants a new phone, and i cant seem to find a device thats as thin as the Z, has a fullHD 5" screen and 2gigs RAM and a 5.0 update for similar money...
this really isnt a sarcastic question. I just want to know what are those mid-range devices with these specs, so i can buy her a better phone and save some cash?
btw with heavy usage my Z never died on me until i came home(which means the whole day). im sorry if you use battery hogging apps that dont let your device sleep when you turn off the screen...
@Tommy-Geenexus
Do you really suggest that old spec phone to buy someone, with known not solved software problems on top of serious casing and thermal design flaws?
There are better options on the market. For that money you can have a LG G2 or a Galaxy S4 or a Honor 6 or One+ One.

Should i buy Nokia X2?

Hi, I am Old android User Then I Switch To Because Android Devices Had A Terrible Battery So I Switched To Lumia Devices (I am Nokia Fan) Now I am Thinking To Start Using Android Again As Nokia Has Introduced some Android Devices . So Nokia X2 caught my attention and I am Thinking To Buy This Phone So i Have Some Questions Regarding Nokia X2
1. I am Heavy User ,I Play Games ,Surf Internet On 3g and Wifi,Texting,Listening To Music So I need A Phone With Good Battery Back That Should Last At least More Than A Day,So Shall Nokia X2 will Satisfy my needs?
2. As There Are No Updates Available From Microsoft Can I Updated My Phone Using Custom roms I mean Is there A custom rom that Can Update Nokia X2 with out any Bug?(Stable As Stock)
3. Which Is Better Fastlane Or a Rom With Google Services?
4. Hows The Camera Of Nokia X2?
5. Can it Be Used To Play Heavy Games?
I love the X2. It's compact, well built, reliable. That said it is slow, the camera sucks and if you're in the USA you can forget 3G as the relevant frequencies aren't supported. I recently switched to the Moto X Play so I could have LTE, a faster processor and better camera. But I was sorry to have to do it, because despite its limitations the X2 really was a dear phone to me...
What About The Battery Life?
I think the battery life was quite good; certainly beats the hell out of the Lumias, iPhones etc., and actually beats out several other Android phones I've owned. That said it's still not as good as Nokia's Symbian phones, but I guess nowadays that's asking the impossible.
I'd say buy it if you can appreciate its charm and can accept its drawbacks. It isn't powerful by any means but like I said it's rugged, durable, inexpensive and just a cool, friendly device.
Make sure, to maximize its use, you install Google Play and a replacement launcher. I used Apex Launcher myself. It really improves the super-blah interface the phone ships with.
here are some tips from me
1.if you play games, especially heavy games than i think you should buy a quad cores phone which have adreno 320 gpu and above
2.if you want better battery life than consider buying a phone with at least 2000mah battery and above
Mr. Barker said:
I think the battery life was quite good; certainly beats the hell out of the Lumias, iPhones etc., and actually beats out several other Android phones I've owned. That said it's still not as good as Nokia's Symbian phones, but I guess nowadays that's asking the impossible.
I'd say buy it if you can appreciate its charm and can accept its drawbacks. It isn't powerful by any means but like I said it's rugged, durable, inexpensive and just a cool, friendly device.
Make sure, to maximize its use, you install Google Play and a replacement launcher. I used Apex Launcher myself. It really improves the super-blah interface the phone ships with.
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What Are the Major Drawbacks?
crazyplayer2481 said:
here are some tips from me
1.if you play games, especially heavy games than i think you should buy a quad cores phone which have adreno 320 gpu and above
2.if you want better battery life than consider buying a phone with at least 2000mah battery and above
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Sure Quadcore processors will give better gaming experience but there are also expensive
and as nokia x2 1800mah battery u don't suggest be buying this?
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What Are the Major Drawbacks?
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I listed them already. Re-read my previous posts.
The only other thing I can remember is that I ran into a few apps which didn't work on the X2, due to it not being 100% compatible with the "official" versions of Android. When I say "a few," I mean maybe 5 or 6. Not bad at all. And I was easily able, in almost all cases, to find a compatible app either on Nokia's store (RIP) or thru trial and error on Google Play. And two of the non-working apps eventually received updates that made them compatible -- after I complained to the developers, heh heh.
fireworker said:
Sure Quadcore processors will give better gaming experience but there are also expensive
and as nokia x2 1800mah battery u don't suggest be buying this?
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try some models from manufacturers like Xiaomi... they made models that most of them have quadcore cpu but sell with a decent price
fireworker said:
Hi, I am Old android User Then I Switch To Because Android Devices Had A Terrible Battery So I Switched To Lumia Devices (I am Nokia Fan) Now I am Thinking To Start Using Android Again As Nokia Has Introduced some Android Devices . So Nokia X2 caught my attention and I am Thinking To Buy This Phone So i Have Some Questions Regarding Nokia X2
1. I am Heavy User ,I Play Games ,Surf Internet On 3g and Wifi,Texting,Listening To Music So I need A Phone With Good Battery Back That Should Last At least More Than A Day,So Shall Nokia X2 will Satisfy my needs?
2. As There Are No Updates Available From Microsoft Can I Updated My Phone Using Custom roms I mean Is there A custom rom that Can Update Nokia X2 with out any Bug?(Stable As Stock)
3. Which Is Better Fastlane Or a Rom With Google Services?
4. Hows The Camera Of Nokia X2?
5. Can it Be Used To Play Heavy Games?
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yes..go for it...its a nice phn

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