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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
Where'd you read that att models support wimax?
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It's magic, considering ATT never deployed wimax whatsoever. Sprint is the only major cellular provider who went with Wimax, everyone else went lte or HSPA+
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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All of this is true except AT&T ONE getting WiMax. As was said, AT&T has never had WiMax and the ONE is not capable of it. Whoever told you that is either mistaken or lying.
Depending on where you are WiMax could be more available then LTE as of right now. As they shut down the 800mhz Nextel towers, Sprint will be rolling out LTE 800 on those is the story most have heard.
I'm in Chicago and we have a lot of wimax. But also a lot of lte too. I did get faster speeds on wimax, but I could only get wimax if I were outside. So... I kept it off and only used wimax if I really needed it. It was a major battery hog.
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I had og Evo and Evo 3d which were both wimax phones. The signal was much more consistent than I get on my Evo lte and HTC one. As far as speed, I HAVE spiked to 22mbps once or twice on lte but I have to be right there in that sweet spot which is on the side of a major hwy. I can pull 5-8 mbps on an average lte signal but I am constantly loosing it and switching back to 3g and going back and forth. My wimax signal was a goo 7-8 inside my house. Lte is very inconsistent and my area is suppose to be over 80% complete I think last time I checked.
And like gk said wimax was a battery hog. I could never get half a day if I left my wimax radio on and off the charger. My lte devices last a lot longer. This one I take it off the charger in the morning and still have half battery at night most times
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Will most areas with Wimax get LTE? I didn't care too much about this until I read that AT&T Ones get both Wimax and LTE. How exactly does this work? Has it to do with the GSM/CDMA thing?
I was with T-mobile before and you could say I was spoiled by their HSPA speeds. Now its normal for me to get anywhere from 80 to 100 kbps with Sprint. Occasionally I get an LTE signal and speeds upto 1.5 mbps. Would I get faster speeds if I had an older, Wimax phone?
Also, I was told by the Sprint rep that the Nextel towers will be converted to LTE. Is this true?
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I would be surprised if it were directly true. The Nextel towers were all IDEN-based and are in the process of being torn down. I have no doubt they will be eventually switched to CDMA/3G and then LTE (or maybe built with LTE from the get-go), but probably not until after Sprint rolls out LTE to its existing tower infrastructure.
Not to go off topic too much but when I lived in Columbus Ohio we had pretty good wimax coverage. And in complete honesty the battery hit was hardly any worse than 3g so I would leave wimax on all of the time. I could go a full 12 hour day at work on my 3d with moderate usage and get home with 30 percent left. Similar comparisons in battery life on my 4g, shift, and et4g as well. Apparently its similar to any other signal issue.... But if its a good area wimax doesn't hurt the battery too bad at all really.
I used to get really inconsistent lte a month ago. I'm not sure if they improved the network to correct it or what but when I unlocked the bootloader, I saw a very consistent experience. Not sure if wiping everything did something to correct it, placebo, or new towers were flipped on the same day.
But I only get 2-3 mbps on lte
Wimax I was getting about 8-10
In any case... Sprint is the only major wimax carrier in the USA and att doesn't use it - as mentioned earlier, OP was lied to about this.
Also, I hear the Nextel iden network will be configured to lte on 800 mhz which our phones don't support. None do at this point actually.
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wimax is awful & I live in a "good" wimax area. Besides Sprint quit building on the network once they realized it sucked.
All right thanks for the clarification guys. I was suspicious when I read it (no idea where, some random forums). Since Sprint is letting go of Wimax and replacing their Wimax devices with LTE, would it be safe to assume that places with "Best" Wimax coverage and/or Nextel coverage will get LTE at some point (6 mos-1 year)? It's really sad when it takes 30-45 minutes do download Cut the Rope at the local mall (in silicon Valley).
Sprint lte (any carried for that matter) is very signal dependent. Stronger signal = faster connection. If u connect to lte and its a slow connection, chances are you are connected to a site farther away then u think, or have a site (one that serves your voice coverage) between the lte site and your phone. All sprint sites are being converted to lte. Most Nextel sites are not. During the conversion, sprint is putting up panels has house both voice and lte on 1900mhz, voice on smr800 and lte on 800smr. No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall. When Nextel is turned off (last day of this month), sprint will start turning on the 800smr on voice and lte but may take some time (especially lte side). 800smr voice is already being broadcasted in parts of the county, such as in Chicago. Most if not all native sprint coverage will have lte by this time next year. For much more info, go to s4gru.com
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I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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I had Wimax on my evo3d as well as for my home internet through clear. Wimax signal is much weaker than LTE it is easily affected by weather and even wind.it has poor building penetration, hence Sprint dumped the Wimax program and began with lte!!!
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It wasn't so much wimax sucked based on the symptoms you described, it's the frequency Clearwire was using. They used 2500 mhz for wimax and if it were lte on that same band, we'd still have poor building penetration and weak signal.
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No 800smr lte devices are out yet, will will be starting this fall.
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the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
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the htc one should actually be capable of 800smr lte with some changes to the radio config (and possibly radio software too, but i'm pretty sure that won't be necessary)... once 800smr lte is up and running somewhere near where i live i'll be able to test and figure out what exactly needs to be done to make it work.
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it is not capable of 800smr lte....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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it is not capable of 800smr....its a hardware thing (no 800smr antenna within the phone) with the HTC ONE, check out the FCC docs...
https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1898233 (note page 5, only LTE BAND 25 (g block, 1900 mhz, sprints current lte network)
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-342-updated-all-for-htc-one-htc-one-for-all/
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first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
CDMA1X + EV-DO band classes 0, 1, 10 (i.e. CDMA1X + EV-DO 850/1900/800)
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Antenna 0 max RF ERP/EIRP: 20.10 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 23.80 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 19.23 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 12.30 dBm (LTE 1900)
Antenna 1 max RF ERP/EIRP: 13.78 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 850), 13.58 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 1900), 14.27 dBm (CDMA1X/EV-DO 800), 23.63 dBm (LTE 1900)
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cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
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first link just says "You are not authorized to access this page.", but i have already seen the fcc filings for the sprint htc one.
from the second link:
cdma band class 10 is 800smr. both antennas work for 800smr. the radio can transmit and receive on 800smr frequencies.
it's very likely that a simple configuration change will enable lte on 800smr. if that turns out to not be the case, it's definitely possible to do it by modifying the baseband software.
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that radio (antenna) will not work on 800smr LTE. Voice 800smr yes, lte, no
The Sprint version of the HTC One is limited to band 25 LTE 1900. It does not support either of Sprint's upcoming LTE bands -- band 26 LTE 800 and band 41 TD-LTE 2600.
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Vincent Law said:
Note that by the time Sprint actually deploys in large-scale any non-1900mhz LTE, you'll be up for a new phone (that is, 2 years). It's going to take a long, long time. They haven't even started yet.
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Sprint has started an 800smr LTE fit in Montana.
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gk1984 said:
I asked Sprint support about a month or 2 ago if the One would be compatible with 800 when they launch it and they said none of the currently released phones are capable and none will be released until Q3 or Q4
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This is correct :good:
***THIS IS LIKE THE OLD "WILL MY WIMAX DEVICE WORK ON LTE" DEBATE " lol ....we all know how that ended up
Can someone please confirm with a screen shot that the Developer Edition of the Moto X has band 4 LTE AWS support for VERIZON. The only reason I did not purchase a Dev Edition of the Moto X is because I contacted Moto (after scouring the Internet for specs, Dev Edition says 750 Mhz LTE ) support and they specifically told me Verizon Dev Edition doesn't support AWS Band 4 for verizon.
Thanks.
Well, when I put my T-Mobile SIM in, I get LTE. Since T-Mobile uses Band 4, and not Band 13, that would imply the Verizon Moto X supports Band 4 LTE.
But T-Mobile or Verizon sim installed in the phone, it never reports Band 13 or Band 4 when connected to LTE.
AWS Dev Edition.
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Well, when I put my T-Mobile SIM in, I get LTE. Since T-Mobile uses Band 4, and not Band 13, that would imply the Verizon Moto X supports Band 4 LTE.
But T-Mobile or Verizon sim installed in the phone, it
never reports Band 13 or Band 4 when connected to LTE.
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Yeah I've seen other reports of this. I was looking for proof from someone in a big city with Verizon's AWS network enabled to show me some really fast speed on a Verizon network.
Thanks for the reply though.
Does this help? Done the other night sitting in my living room... near Thorndale, PA... its not a big city, but its not bad.
And remember, just like with Band 13, there could be congestion on Band 4 LTE.. So don't expect speeds to always be this high... especially since AWS is 1700/2100Mhz so in building and such is not as good, and signal doesn't travel as from from the towers when compared to Band 4.
Oh, and here is a shot with my T-Mobile sim in my Verizon X. If the phone didn't support Band 4 I wouldn't get LTE on T-Mobile.
I've done speed tests on my dev x and at the same time ran a speed test on my wife's s3. I know the area has aws since my s4 showed I was connected to it. On the x I got about 70 mbps and on the s3 about 10 mbps. Aws is definitely supported on this phone.
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Does this help? Done the other night sitting in my living room... near Thorndale, PA... its not a big city, but its not bad.
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Hey, my former boss lives in Thorndale and I used to work in Downingtown. Small world.
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Hey, my former boss lives in Thorndale and I used to work in Downingtown. Small world.
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Yes. Very small. I live about 2 miles from the Thorndale SEPTA station.. Its called Romansville, but no one has heard of it, and we use Coatesville post office but thankfully that is all of coatesville we use!!
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Yes. Very small. I live about 2 miles from the Thorndale SEPTA station.. Its called Romansville, but no one has heard of it, and we use Coatesville post office but thankfully that is all of coatesville we use!!
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I dated a girl from Coatsville, hahaha. Ok, enough off-topic from me.
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Why would they put a chip in with different radio compatibility when all that is really different underneath is the bootloader?
Verizon
imnuts said:
Why would they put a chip in with different radio compatibility when all that is really different underneath is the bootloader?
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It's verizon. They disable things.
dmiramon said:
It's verizon. They disable things.
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Verizon didn't make the phone, Motorola did. If they put a different radio chip in, they'd have to pay for FCC testing/approval/certification on two devices, one of which is going to be a low sales model. Do you really think they'd offer it if they had to spend well over what they'd ever hope to make back for it?
I recommended my buddy over to sprint. He got some big Samsung new phone. I forget the name. Any way. He comes in tells me the service sucks. I said your gonna have to deal with that lol, so he brings it to the store and they do a new speed update called spark. He comes back. He does a speed test on LTE getting 13 mbps download. I do it on my HTC One and not even get a Meg. I call up sprint and tell me the spark update is not for the flagship phone HTC One. Only Samsung phones!! Can you believe it?? Unbelievable. I got screwed again. Time to sell the phone and move on.
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Samsung sounds like the obvious choice, can't think of a reason to spend any more time using this inferior phone, Unbelievable man!
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Spark is Sprint's next version of LTE and I believe runs on a different frequency than their normal LTE, its also only available in select cities. Because it runs on a different frequency our HTC One's radios don't utilize it yet, if he got a newer device they may have the new radios built in. The next version of the One should have it as well I would assume.
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I recommended my buddy over to sprint. He got some big Samsung new phone. I forget the name. Any way. He comes in tells me the service sucks. I said your gonna have to deal with that lol, so he brings it to the store and they do a new speed update called spark. He comes back. He does a speed test on LTE getting 13 mbps download. I do it on my HTC One and not even get a Meg. I call up sprint and tell me the spark update is not for the flagship phone HTC One. Only Samsung phones!! Can you believe it?? Unbelievable. I got screwed again. Time to sell the phone and move on.
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A Google search or a search of these forums would tell you the NEW Samsung GS4 hardware supports spark (the first runs of the S4 do not). The HTC One does not as the phone was released prior to spark being around. That said, why you would buy an HTC One or a new galaxy phone a month before they are to release the new refreshed versions is beyond me. You didn't get screwed, you failed to do your research.
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Spark is Sprint's next version of LTE and I believe runs on a different frequency than their normal LTE, its also only available in select cities. Because it runs on a different frequency our HTC One's radios don't utilize it yet, if he got a newer device they may have the new radios built in. The next version of the One should have it as well I would assume.
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That sums it up exactly.
If I'm not mistaken the HTC One Mega is spark capable.
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That sums it up exactly.
If I'm not mistaken the HTC One Mega is spark capable.
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One Max*
No one can incorporate it into an HTC one radio? Or do we need different hardware?
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Some of y'all amaze me...
It is hardware dependent.
It cannot be implemented with a simple software or radio update.
HTC also has it on the One Max and upcoming devices.
Samsung is not the only device (LG/Nexus 5, HTC, LG...)
It is hardware dependent and cannot be implemented.
The sky is blue, water is good for you and global warming is a myth.
Did I mention that the One will NEVER be able to use Spark? :laugh::laugh:
Spark utilizes the 800/1900/2500 MHz bands. The HTC One (2013 Flagship phone) only can handle 800/1900 and not 2500. 2500 Mhz is the band that WiMax was using a few years ago. Only a few cities have Spark, and it will be faster, but how much speed do you need? Normal LTE should be in the 5 - 10 meg+ range and even good 3g is about 1 to 1 1/2 megs per second.
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Some of y'all amaze me...
It is hardware dependent.
It cannot be implemented with a simple software or radio update.
HTC also has it on the One Max and upcoming devices.
Samsung is not the only device (LG/Nexus 5, HTC, LG...)
It is hardware dependent and cannot be implemented.
The sky is blue, water is good for you and global warming is a myth.
Did I mention that the One will NEVER be able to use Spark? :laugh::laugh:
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If I could hug you... Well i totally wouldn't because weird. But I'd want to.
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Spark utilizes the 800/1900/2500 MHz bands. The HTC One (2013 Flagship phone) only can handle 800/1900 and not 2500. 2500 Mhz is the band that WiMax was using a few years ago. Only a few cities have Spark, and it will be faster, but how much speed do you need? Normal LTE should be in the 5 - 10 meg+ range and even good 3g is about 1 to 1 1/2 megs per second.
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From what I was told by a executive of Sprint Spark is tri-band . This means the Spark phones have the ability to search out the strongest signal and switch to it. FYI , you are walking down the street using the strongest signal the phone has found, say the 800 band. Going into a building the phone sees that inside the building the 2500 band is the strongest. the phone automatically switches to this stronger band.
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From what I was told by a executive of Sprint Spark is tri-band . This means the Spark phones have the ability to search out the strongest signal and switch to it. FYI , you are walking down the street using the strongest signal the phone has found, say the 800 band. Going into a building the phone sees that inside the building the 2500 band is the strongest. the phone automatically switches to this stronger band.
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It is correct on being tri band, but that is using all three bands at once. It is called aggregation. You wouldn't get any fast speed that LTE if only using one band because that is what is used today. But using three bands at once and aggregating them together, you can get 3 times the speed. FYI, 800 MHz is the best frequency, travels further and penetrates buildings better than the 2500 MHz frequency. Sprint for years and years was based on 1900 MHz and recently started to use the old 800 MHz freed up from Nextel.
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It is correct on being tri band, but that is using all three bands at once. It is called aggregation. You wouldn't get any fast speed that LTE if only using one band because that is what is used today. But using three bands at once and aggregating them together, you can get 3 times the speed. FYI, 800 MHz is the best frequency, travels further and penetrates buildings better than the 2500 MHz frequency. Sprint for years and years was based on 1900 MHz and recently started to use the old 800 MHz freed up from Nextel.
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Lol I was kinda confused reading this to. How does one get better signal inside a building using 2500 MHz compared to 800 MHz.
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Lol I was kinda confused reading this to. How does one get better signal inside a building using 2500 MHz compared to 800 MHz.
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This one is kinda easy. Being that Clearwire sites are independent and don't run NV you might be right under one as opposed to a Sprint site that's further away. In that case the 2500 signal will be stronger. Like at my home for example.. I get 1-2 bars of LTE 1900 but my WiMAX devices will have full bars although it's on the 2500 frequency. It's actually quite sad WiMAX on my old S2 kicks the crap out of LTE on my Note 2 in speedtests but then again Hartford is saturated in WiMAX..
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Spark utilizes the 800/1900/2500 MHz bands. The HTC One (2013 Flagship phone) only can handle 800/1900 and not 2500. 2500 Mhz is the band that WiMax was using a few years ago. Only a few cities have Spark, and it will be faster, but how much speed do you need? Normal LTE should be in the 5 - 10 meg+ range and even good 3g is about 1 to 1 1/2 megs per second.
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It can only handle 1900 LTE not 800, there's no dualband LTE device. It can do 800 voice like the rest of the other non triband phones and that's it. Not to correct you or anything it's just reading that can mislead others lol
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I know the Verizon version has a locked bootloader but Verizon phones do come unlocked. Does anyone know if the 2014 Moto X will work on T-Mobile? I know it has the correct bands but the LTE/HSPA switchoff has issues maybe? I tried searching but couldn't find anything beyond a video saying they could get up to 3G and that was it.
Asking because someone is selling a Verizon Moto X to me for 250 and it seems like a great deal.
I wish I could give you a definitive answer. I had my VZ note 3 running on T mobile with full LTE band 4. I am not sure whether you can add the new VPN without root. Here is the thread for adding the T mobile VPN. Hopefully someone can expand on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
From what I can tell, the CDMA version doesn't have the 1700 band for 4G (HSPA+). Without that, you'll only have 4G (HSPA+) in areas where the 1900 spectrum was refarmed, which is usually major cities. Looks like it definitely has 4G (LTE) on band 4 though.
Short answer: Yes it should work. Also, for 250, you might as well try it and then sell it if it doesn't work out for you.
i purchased a moto x xt 1050 altell for 50 buck new phone ,unlocked it bootloader and network then i installed my stock rom from my unlocked moto x 1053 and installed in that phone works great but no 4g lte only 4g. but when i install cy mod in the phone or another rom i only get 3g or h+ the phone was a 1050 now it shows 1053 in my computer was told from motorola this phone is 4glte ......using it on at&t
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i purchased a moto x xt 1050 altell for 50 buck new phone ,unlocked it bootloader and network then i installed my stock rom from my unlocked moto x 1053 and installed in that phone works great but no 4g lte only 4g. but when i install cy mod in the phone or another rom i only get 3g or h+ the phone was a 1050 now it shows 1053 in my computer was told from motorola this phone is 4glte ......using it on at&t
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Probably want to read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
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the phone works great but no lte its on global
fryedmonk911 said:
i purchased a moto x xt 1050 altell for 50 buck new phone ,unlocked it bootloader and network then i installed my stock rom from my unlocked moto x 1053 and installed in that phone works great but no 4g lte only 4g. but when i install cy mod in the phone or another rom i only get 3g or h+ the phone was a 1050 now it shows 1053 in my computer was told from motorola this phone is 4glte ......using it on at&t
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The XT1050 is a CDMA/GSM variant with the same FCC ID as the XT1060 (Verizon) variant.
It supports the following frequencies..
CDMA = 800/1900
GSM/GPRS/Edge (aka 2G/2.5G) = 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
UMTS/HSPA (aka 3G) = 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz
HSPA+ (aka 4G) = 850/900/1900/2100 Mhz
4G LTE = Band 4 and 13.
When using on GSM carriers, it will get the fastest connection based on what the phone supports vs what the carrier uses.
In the case of ATT, since they don't use LTE band 13, and rarely use LTE band 4, you usually wont get LTE with this hardware. Only HSPA+ (represented by either H+ or 4G), or UMTS/HSPA (represented by 3G or H), Edge (represented by E).
The settings in the rom you are using will dictate if HSPA+ is represented by H+ or 4G.
And Keep in mind that 4G via HSPA+ is not the same as 4G via LTE, hence 4G vs 4G LTE symbols.
Flashing the rom from another model phone will not enable support additional frequencies or bands. (i.e. flashing the XT1053 firmware will not enable additional bands)
If you want 4GLte on ATT you need either the XT1058, or the XT1053. Just keep in mind the XT1053 lacks LTE band 5 and 7. ATT is starting to roll out LTE on band 5 in a few areas.
Only 3g worked with the xt1050 then when I put the 1053 ROM in I got 4g I heard that some lte bands in the moto phones did not work .....but thank you for your help
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fryedmonk911 said:
Only 3g worked with the xt1050 then when I put the 1053 ROM in I got 4g I heard that some lte bands in the moto phones did not work .....but thank you for your help
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You said "4g lte only 4g" and "when i install cy mod in the phone or another rom i only get 3g or h+"
I was explaining to you why.
UMTS/HSPA (designated by 3G or H) = 3G
HSPA+ (desginated by 4g or H+) = Non-LTE 4G
"some lte bands in the moto phones did not work" because of the different hardware variants of the Moto X. Flashing a different Stock Rom (with its modem files) will not change the hardware capabilities, but it can/will change what "graphic" or "symbol" is used for which type of coverage/connection you have.
i.e. If the phone shows 3G or H, its indicating the same thing. UMTS/HSPA connection. If the phone shows H+ or 4G, its showing you have a non-LTE 4G connection.
I won't get h+ with the other ROMs only h and that stands for 3g then I install the stock ROM from my phone I get 4 g and did a speed test getting about 17 megs when I first got the phone I put sim in would not get anything just wanted the phone for parts but tried this because it was locked on the person old number in the CDMA with alltel/Verizon I know there was a chance I can break the phone
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Don't forget, it could also be in the APN settings being used for your GSM carrier (unless you are always entering the same manually).
can you tell me how you flashed a different ROm on the XT 1050 .. i have one but the APN doesnt sit
QUOTE=fryedmonk911;59554415]I won't get h+ with the other ROMs only h and that stands for 3g then I install the stock ROM from my phone I get 4 g and did a speed test getting about 17 megs when I first got the phone I put sim in would not get anything just wanted the phone for parts but tried this because it was locked on the person old number in the CDMA with alltel/Verizon I know there was a chance I can break the phone
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