Possible buy: LG Maximo 4X HD - LG Optimus 4X HD

Hi
I've been looking for an android smartphone to replace my HTC Sensation XE, and I've came across recently through the LG Maximo 4X HD.
I'm a little confused about the names, because I'm looking at a LG Maximo 4X HD and LG Optimus 4X HD, they are the same thing right? Just a matter of naming?
Okay, second question.
The device itself has nice specs, so in my opinion is a very good buy for the specs it has (similar specs from Samsung and HTC or about are the double of the price). What is your guys opinion about it ? Fast? Behaves nicely? Well built ? Known issues ?
Does the kernel has full support for Jelly Bean? (Hsync, tripple buffer, etc..?). And battery life?
Sorry about all the questions, I'm a bit excited over this product and the competitive price!
Thank you so much in advance, I might post one or two questions more.

MidnightDevil said:
Hi
I've been looking for an android smartphone to replace my HTC Sensation XE, and I've came across recently through the LG Maximo 4X HD.
I'm a little confused about the names, because I'm looking at a LG Maximo 4X HD and LG Optimus 4X HD, they are the same thing right? Just a matter of naming?
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Yes, the Maximo is exactly the same as the Optimus - it is simply named different for certain markets. The key thing is the code-name, they are both listed as the P880.
As for your other questions, please search and read as the same things have been asked many times before.

Nice phone but battery life is not great, i would say it is average at best.
But at the current price it is a good VFM IMO.

Just realised that you're the same MidnightDevil who helped to bring JB to the HTC Desire. Hope you bought the phone and will be happy with it
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muellersmattes said:
Just realised that you're the same MidnightDevil who helped to bring JB to the HTC Desire. Hope you bought the phone and will be happy with it
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Hi!
Yes! I was part of the team
I'm enjoying it much! Although I've only started to scratch the surface I'm already enjoying. For a change I really like the stock rom! lol
Cheers

So I guess you'll also bring us some nice dev work this device community gets better every day.
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Finally A Good bye

After a long time waiting for ics or a fast GB Rom.. my wait is over and i have decided to sale my Optimus black .. now can you guys help me buying a new set in my consideration there are 3 sets.
1) Xperia Neo v
2) Desire s
3) Nexus s
EDIT: Front Cam is Very Imporatant
EDIT 2: Sold optimus black ( very cheap ) going to buy Xperia neo v on monday any coments??
Desire S for me. Don't want to consider HTC One X?
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I sold my Galaxy Tab to buy Optimus Black...
Anyways Desire HD if you want 8MP camera and 4.3 inch display & Desire S if you want front camera.
Dont buy Sony Ericsson devices bcoz its over now (only Sony from now) its support will soon be stopped by Sony (marketing strategy to increase its sale of new Sony devies).
I were you I would rather go for Desire HD.
DHD
Desire HD definitely, that was my device before OB, and now i miss that phone very much it's a great phone and it already have ICS and new HTC Sense 3.6 and 4.0 lite. DESIRE HD would be my choice
+1 for desire HD, great phone.
Mastermind_hassan said:
After a long time waiting for ics or a fast GB Rom.. my wait is over and i have decided to sale my Optimus black .. now can you guys help me buying a new set in my consideration there are 3 sets.
1) Xperia Neo v
2) Desire s
3)Desire HD
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Bro the world is going QUADCORE so may be time to shift to duelcore right HTC Sensation is good but i'l highly suggest Galaxy Note, i'm also going NOTE way next month There is nothing like Galaxy Note my brother bought it last week, will get official ICS next month for sure..
omr911 said:
I sold my Galaxy Tab to buy Optimus Black...
Anyways Desire HD if you want 8MP camera and 4.3 inch display & Desire S if you want front camera.
Dont buy Sony Ericsson devices bcoz its over now (only Sony from now) its support will soon be stopped by Sony (marketing strategy to increase its sale of new Sony devies).
I were you I would rather go for Desire HD.
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Why not to buy xperia neo v it got ics released .. and almost same specs like desire s and also its cheaper
for those People who are recommending me Desire s .. i must tell you that there is colour fading problem in the body of Desire s due to Some Alloy they used..
Mastermind_hassan said:
After a long time waiting for ics or a fast GB Rom.. my wait is over and i have decided to sale my Optimus black .. now can you guys help me buying a new set in my consideration there are 3 sets.
1) Xperia Neo v
2) Desire s
3)Desire HD
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My God are you Impatient! I seriously doubt you know what "long time" means.
Whats wrong with people today? No patience and absolute devotion to deliberate obsolescence! "Oh there is an Update...i better get it within a few months or gtfo" and "Oh, i found something that Lags a sec.... better sell it and get something new"
I cant wait for the time when Technology gets expensive again (due to short resources or some real new inventions and not just "more HD" and "more whatever") and People start thinking with their Head instead of letting corporations think for you.
This is not about LG update Policy, its a general problem.
Sry, but i had to let it out!
PS: I bought a OB because it was cheap and got a bigger and better screen than the gt540. I owned 2 Smartphones in my life and i am still alive and well. before the gt540 i owned a Nokia 3310 for years.
pythoner said:
My God are you Impatient! I seriously doubt you know what "long time" means.
Whats wrong with people today? No patience and absolute devotion to deliberate obsolescence! "Oh there is an Update...i better get it within a few months or gtfo" and "Oh, i found something that Lags a sec.... better sell it and get something new"
I cant wait for the time when Technology gets expensive again (due to short resources or some real new inventions and not just "more HD" and "more whatever") and People start thinking with their Head instead of letting corporations think for you.
This is not about LG update Policy, its a general problem.
Sry, but i had to let it out!
PS: I bought a OB because it was cheap and got a bigger and better screen than the gt540. I owned 2 Smartphones in my life and i am still alive and well. before the gt540 i owned a Nokia 3310 for years.
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The big problem i am facing is Battery Problem that made me so pissed so i decided to change its not a big deal
Mastermind_hassan said:
The big problem i am facing is Battery Problem that made me so pissed so i decided to change its not a big deal
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Because only some people got Battery Problems here is a simple solution: smartflash the Original ROM and send it to LG for a repair. They fixed mine within 2 Days!
And if you want a long batterylife: Dont buy a Smartphone.
Mmm I agree that the OB have battery issue and yes it pisses me off too.... mm maybe you can consider having a phone with a large battery... just search at gsmarena. Of course, a smaller screen = more battery juice. So maybe consider a 3.7" screen like Motorola Defy (I had one, good battery life, and a lot of Roms!) Or even the Desire S (never used but Sense UI is great, & has front facing cam)
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Mastermind_hassan said:
Why not to buy xperia neo v it got ics released .. and almost same specs like desire s and also its cheaper
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I dont know the device rates but since u gave 3 devices I chose the best according to my opinion.
+ desire hd is also getting ICS!
And one very imp thing as u r using OB whose Nova display is best in class so when u buy new phone with lcd screen none will satisfy u in display performance only samsungs super amoled displays fights back to NOVA display so all phones u listed fail in display quality by long way.. neo v display is disaster in front of OB
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mullarameez said:
And one very imp thing as u r using OB whose Nova display is best in class so when u buy new phone with lcd screen none will satisfy u in display performance only samsungs super amoled displays fights back to NOVA display so all phones u listed fail in display quality by long way.. neo v display is disaster in front of OB
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+1
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+1
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Display is not the problem becoz 700nit brightness hurts my eyes
It's hurting when you use it at night but when it is sunny, there you can appreciate the NOVA 700nits display. Other LCD like you have mentioned above is poor. On bright sunny days, you can't clearly see the screen. All smartphones has battery issues. That's a smartphone in nature. But it's your choice. We have our own discretion with regards to it. Moreover, I'm not here to argue with you. As to your question, I'll go with Neo V. My cousin have it and it's a great phone. Has HDMI too. And ICS was already released.
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If I were you, I would wait about a month, see what is going to happen with ics here, and then buy a new phone
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andreas0013 said:
If I were you, I would wait about a month, see what is going to happen with ics here, and then buy a new phone
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i didnt get u
pahahahahah
arealready with regret of sell your OB.
today was released ICS (CM9 and MIUI V4) for ob

Take a chance also to Optimus 4X

I read on other forums that the developers who work for XDA and have worked for the Optimus 2X have not yet decided to buy the Optimus 4X.
I'm quite sad to have read this, I am convinced that a device like this has the right to have a community that we work on it.
I certainly hope that is not overshadowed unlike the SGS3 and the X One, excellent devices in my opinion, although this time with LG Optimus has really done a good job and would be a shame not to maximize its potential!
Given a chance even to this little trinket to compete with others!
I agree, the 4X is a huge step from the 2X, everything i didn't like about the 2X has been improved in the 4X like the size and weight of the phone, the o2x is too big and heavy for a 4", now the 4X is perfect for the 4,7" screen, louder speaker, the only thing i think is a step down from the 2X is the MHL-HDMI, i'd rather have HDMI port like the 2X has.
For the reasons above i will buy a 4X later this year, because LG has changed for the better IMO.
Come on guys! Make your voice heard!
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strength we need answers! Think you also that our Optimus 4X has the right to have a guide to the Root, Basebands, ROMs, etc..?
Or would you prefer to use this fantastic product as LG has done it?
Instead of opening thousands of posts where we praise and adore this device, we respond to one and we feel our voices to the community.
the x4 is definitely the finest and better choice compared to s3/one X - Straße we need a new root
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If support was there for it I would buy it for sure
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Jelly Bean for the 4X?

Did LG already mention Jelly Bean for the 4X somewhere? I just assume, that they'll offer it ... it'd be very weird not to on such a new phone and with the big improvements of Jelly Bean.
Our 4X needs unlocked bootloader, we'll have full working CM10 then
Heard somewhere LG phones will get JB at the beginning of 2013...
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If not there is always CM10, I'm stoked about getting that loaded on my phone
No official JB for this phone, LG`s reputation will surely drop down to zero.
Let`s hope they won`t make the same mistake.
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i was told by a LG Rep that it could get Jelly Bean, but who knows maybe if CM 10 is on the phone it might be more stable
optimuswhite said:
No official JB for this phone, LG`s reputation will surely drop down to zero.
Let`s hope they won`t make the same mistake.
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Agreed.. messed up on 2x alreadi. Repent with 4x please
darrenxes said:
Agreed.. messed up on 2x alreadi. Repent with 4x please
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No, no, no. I have contacts with LG reps and I am aware, that Optimus 2X will get ICS in Q3, Optimus 4X JB - Q4.
Dosnt that seem a lil too late? It should be update around the same time as the S3 and One X
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Winudert said:
No, no, no. I have contacts with LG reps and I am aware, that Optimus 2X will get ICS in Q3, Optimus 4X JB - Q4.
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Do You know something about 4.0.4 update?
optimuswhite said:
No official JB for this phone, LG`s reputation will surely drop down to zero.
Let`s hope they won`t make the same mistake.
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looking professionally on their stocks, their display division already lost 60% of their stock value comparing about 12-14 months back, so currently LG is no good investiment at all.
but on the topic of development, LG decided to put alot more effort into licencing security and abuse, so upgrading the o4x platform is a little bit more work probably comparing to other vendors which looks a little more western on their opensource and openminded politics.
remember that LG comes from a society where dupe's are all around and copyrights on copycats are important piece of their product. so their social thinking is far from openminded since their daily spirit in a sharing community is totally black and filled with copycat clones and people stealing other developers work and companies selling cheap fake models.
LG got too much asian culture where some of the others like samsung got more western like appreciation, although being 100% Korean
reas0n said:
Do You know something about 4.0.4 update?
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We will get another small 4.0.3 update (V10e) and later in Q4 JB.
They should start offering a possibility of unlocking the bootloader. Even Motorola now offers a way to unlock on their website now!
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Hmm, if they do the updates in the same time manner as on the Optimus 2X then you should have Jelly Bean on your phone sometimes in Q3-Q4 2013
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Where did you get this info?
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just join the community as a owner of x4
well, updates are slow is LG reputation
Is the message, that o4x will get JB in Q4 trustful? I didnt really find anything on internet that would confirm it.
I'm seriously thinking about buying o4x, I love design, UI and stuff, but I'm scared of bad support.. Should I buy it?
J-qak said:
Is the message, that o4x will get JB in Q4 trustful? I didnt really find anything on internet that would confirm it.
I'm seriously thinking about buying o4x, I love design, UI and stuff, but I'm scared of bad support.. Should I buy it?
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"NO."
NEVER go for LG.. EVER.
Dont feed the troll
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Dont feed the troll
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Not that bothered about JB to be honest. I rarely keep a phone longer than a year, so I'll be onto JB (or newer) on some other device before too long.

Jelly Bean update plan

LG published their update plan for Jelly Bean.
http://www.lgnewsroom.co.kr/contents/12971
And yes... no word about 4X
If 4X don't get Jelly Bean, it will be my first and last LG phone
I really don't know what to do. Sell my LG? But for the money I'll get, there is no much alternative devices with similar features that I can buy now...
But stay for next 2-3 years with ICS on 4X is no option either. Hardware is ok, but maybe android 4.3 will have really cool features and we will never get it on our devices. It's really frustrating.
c0ldz3r0 said:
I really don't know what to do. Sell my LG? But for the money I'll get, there is no much alternative devices with similar features that I can buy now...
But stay for next 2-3 years with ICS on 4X is no option either. Hardware is ok, but maybe android 4.3 will have really cool features and we will never get it on our devices. It's really frustrating.
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IF lg unlocks the bootloader for us, that will not be a problem.
IF lg keeps the bootloader locked and then shows a crappy update plan with no ICS/android 4.3 i will buy a new phone and give this to my friend or something....
Well it this is the case that we will not got JB or more updates, iam gonna get bored in some point... then a new phone or superduper htc HD2 back, and this one starts acting as a bar phone
The reputation of LG was already below zero after they leaved 2X die. Normally, nobody should buy their phones after they do same thing with 4X.. They really should think long time about their crappy marketing strategy.
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This has to be an over site. I just got mine so i'm okay with it for now (that will last a couple weeks, lol).
With the Optimus LTE II getting it, it would make no since that we won't.
Just unlock the bootlaoder and XDA will take care of the rest.
LG 4x?
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Various sites are reporting no update for the 4x . Anyone buying LG has to be mad.will have to sell mine and and get the nexus.
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Yeah, there's no mentioning of the 4X. And that's because it is a korean update plan. As far as I know there is no 4X in korea, so nothing to update. With the LTEII getting JB i'm pretty positive that the 4X will be the next one, at least in Europe.
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LG sucks
LG will announce an update for our 4X in Europe because there's no 4Xs in Korea
Made possible by my sexy LG Optimus 4X HD (P880)
I can't see them announcing a 4X JB update in Europe before the new flagship Optimus G is released. They'll be eating into their own sales by promoting an older device.
Be patient, I'm sure the 4X is further down the schedule
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Imo i dont mind not getting JB on my 4x. See guys, ics will still be the majority of the android system and app support for it wouldnt disappear until quite sometime later.
And even by the time ics is really becoming obsolete how old do you think your phone will be? There will be new hardware by then or anyone on the general market wouldnt be even using the phone anymore by then.
I'm speaking as a general user who treats a phone more as a personalised, friendly thing more than using it for technology development. I think LG is really doing a good job. How my phone now (ics) is fine. I dont really care about not getting JB on this device.
Looking outside of developers circle, i think majority of smartphone users are still those that has little interest in catching up with technology, and has the same purpose of phone as me, using it as a connection, entertainment, tool.
My 2 cents.
Ps i had used samsung android phone before.
Edit. Enjoy more of your time now. Sometimes certain good things are already what you have now. Just forget about not getting the update for a while and take a brand new look into the beauty.
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L2Deliver said:
Imo i dont mind not getting JB on my 4x. See guys, ics will still be the majority of the android system and app support for it wouldnt disappear until quite sometime later.
And even by the time ics is really becoming obsolete how old do you think your phone will be? There will be new hardware by then or anyone on the general market wouldnt be even using the phone anymore by then.
I'm speaking as a general user who treats a phone more as a personalised, friendly thing more than using it for technology development. I think LG is really doing a good job. How my phone now (ics) is fine. I dont really care about not getting JB on this device.
Looking outside of developers circle, i think majority of smartphone users are still those that has little interest in catching up with technology, and has the same purpose of phone as me, using it as a connection, entertainment, tool.
My 2 cents.
Ps i had used samsung android phone before.
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I currently have an HTC Desire S which I have rooted and booted over and over again, from GB all the way up to Jelly-Bean and back again. I have placed an order for my 4X HD and am collecting it on Saturday. I don't really care if it gets upgrades to JB or beyond - this time I want a fast, nice phone which I can just use - this is why I have gone for this rather than other phones. I will keep my DS for playing with and to get my kicks from when I feel the need to play around. I'm quite sure that LG will provide us with upgrades for a while, but as long as I have a fairly vanilla ICS I will be a happy bunny.
it will be updated .....wait and see
oktay50000 said:
it will be updated .....wait and see
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We all hope so. But until now we have only this info where 4X is not mentioned.
What has LG from half year old device with locked bootloader? Can someone explain this behavior? I mean, we all know that using unlock tool will void the warranty and only experienced users will do this. Why not let them do what they want?
This is LG Korea they do not have the Optimus 4X in their country, therefore completely ignore this. xD

Let's face it - LG sucks, really

So we always had a competitor - HTC One X. HTC released official Android 4.2.2 update with updated Sense 5.0 UI. What we will get? Nothing. Thank you LG once again. Last LG phone ever for me. Optimus 4X HD old phone? What about One X?
I knew from the beginning that LG sucks on supporting because I already bought the LG 2x in the past, poorly supported device but, the great performance and build quality brings me back to LG, ginger bread on LG 2x worked spool great and lagless that I was amazed every time I use the phone, now on my 4x I 100 Times more amazed, LG stock roms are almost perfect, y can get 10 hours of battery and only train by 8% and that's great, also the materials used on the phone are great and the performance is very cool, kicking the ass of the galaxy for example, on antutu we get like 1000 points more on cpu and floating cpu point that galaxy s3 and with a custom kernel a modifying the stock gpu frequency we can get a little more score on gpu too... so, there's it nothing that we can do in 4.2.2 that we cannot do in 4.1.2...
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LG has the best UX-device-performance combinations. the wait is worth it.
look at their G2.
Winudert said:
So we always had a competitor - HTC One X. HTC released official Android 4.2.2 update with updated Sense 5.0 UI. What we will get? Nothing. Thank you LG once again. Last LG phone ever for me. Optimus 4X HD old phone? What about One X?
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For me LG have better suport then HTC.. I was fan of HTC and i can say be happy if u get one updates, Just look exemple HTC Desire HD great phone but stucked with gingerbread, HTC says bad hardwer for ICS update, lulz. No more HTC for me
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Winudert said:
So we always had a competitor - HTC One X. HTC released official Android 4.2.2 update with updated Sense 5.0 UI. What we will get? Nothing. Thank you LG once again. Last LG phone ever for me. Optimus 4X HD old phone? What about One X?
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LG made nexus 4, that's enough for me to love the company, also it's wireless charger is amazing.
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What is better in 4.2.2 ?
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AdiSimpson said:
What is better in 4.2.2 ?
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It's a higher number, so must be better - that's why people always ***** and moan
The Apple phenomenom; "Let's rebrand the iPhone4 as the iPhone5 and everybody will want one".
SimonTS said:
It's a higher number, so must be better - that's why people always ***** and moan
The Apple phenomenom; "Let's rebrand the iPhone4 as the iPhone5 and everybody will want one".
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for stock android, not much difference. but for lg ui, i would love the new camera interface from 4.2 in optimus g2, and all the new features from the new lg ui version. we seems to forgot that a new android version from the manufacturers is not at all the same as android update, 4.1-4.2 doesn't bring much on the stock version, but for the manufacturers update, there will be a lot of new things. you might call it gimmick features, but that is based on YOUR preferences.
see for yourself what the new version of LG interface will bring. I WANT THAT.. i don't care about the new lockscreen or the multiuser that stock android 4.2 brings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4mxN87hug
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for stock android, not much difference. but for lg ui, i would love the new camera interface from 4.2 in optimus g2, and all the new features from the new lg ui version. we seems to forgot that a new android version from the manufacturers is not at all the same as android update, 4.1-4.2 doesn't bring much on the stock version, but for the manufacturers update, there will be a lot of new things. you might call it gimmick features, but that is based on YOUR preferences.
see for yourself what the new version of LG interface will bring. I WANT THAT.. i don't care about the new lockscreen or the multiuser that stock android 4.2 brings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY4mxN87hug
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for that, we have a rom that brings qslide to the LG 4X HD without any bugs at all, if you want more speed install PurePerformance Golden edition, if you want some apps from LG G2 in apps sections are LG G2 apps like calculator, music player, and task manager...
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for that, we have a rom that brings qslide to the LG 4X HD without any bugs at all, if you want more speed install PurePerformance Golden edition, if you want some apps from LG G2 in apps sections are LG G2 apps like calculator, music player, and task manager...
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lol. i want the camera app, can you give me that? so far, the lg camera app from stock 4.1.2 is the only thing that's capable of using HDR mode properly. i'm not happy with LG leaving our device behind, and i assume so is the OP. This is what the thread about, to get attention. We are not *****es. We are LG's customers. We deserve our updates. and LG should know it.
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lol. i want the camera app, can you give me that? so far, the lg camera app from stock 4.1.2 is the only thing that's capable of using HDR mode properly. i'm not happy with LG leaving our device behind, and i assume so is the OP. This is what the thread about, to get attention. We are not *****es. We are LG's customers. We deserve our updates. and LG should know it.
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i am fighting this since i have mi LG 2X...
My point of this post starts at 1:24
when you see others have, you want it too, even if you are in a different situation. If that thing didn't exist in the first place, you wouldn't think of making a noise to have it.
that video remember me to my dogs... my two dogs was the best friends, one was a aleman pastor, and the other was a rottweiler, both played togeter since kids, one day my mom bought the rottweiler a chain, after that the pastor was angry with the rottweiler... extrange? yes... and the rottweiler used to walk slower in front of the pastor like showing his new chain, that makes the pastor more and more anger... the problem was ended when i bought the same chain to the pastor too... Best friends again...
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It's a higher number, so must be better - that's why people always ***** and moan
The Apple phenomenom; "Let's rebrand the iPhone4 as the iPhone5 and everybody will want one".
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