I just came from a GSIII and picked up a Verizon Moto X, and I noticed that when someone includes me in a group sms, I don't see the other recipients; it appears as if the sender just sent me a personal text. At first I though it was a bug in Handcent (it's been really buggy lately), but the same thing is happening in the stock messenger. As much as I hated touchwiz on my GSIII, it was nice to be able to recognize when you receive a group text and see who the other recipients are. Is this a bug, or just a "feature" of stock android? Is it fixable? I'm not rooted yet, but will get around to it soon. Thanks.
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Nobody else is having this issue?
Works fine for me. Just make sure u have group mms checked in the message settings for the stock app and or handcent
I am having the same issue. What is odd, is that my girlfriend has a Moto X too (On verizon) and hers works the way it should when she sends/receives a group message. The only difference was she ordered hers a week later and it came with Kitkat, I had to update mine myself.
For both the messaging or hangouts SMS app there is a setting for "Group Messaging". Make sure that's checked.
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For both the messaging or hangouts SMS app there is a setting for "Group Messaging". Make sure that's checked.
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It has been checked the whole time.
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Hello there. At&t user here. I have been using at&t for a while and can't switch carriers, and was wondering if anyone could solve this dilemma for me.
I need long messages to get merged to one message for the recipient, which would probably best be suited by having them converted to mms.
I was wondering if the moto x has this feature, as it is the one phone I am looking at on at&t, or if anyone knows an app that can do this, and if I could install this on the moto x unrooted.
Handcent for example, merges them into one and converts to mms, but it needs the sms to be at least 3 sms's long before it does that, so that ones that are between 160-320 characters still get split. I know that gosms doesn't allow this either. This is work-related, so if anyone could help me I would be forever thankful.
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Hello there. At&t user here. I have been using at&t for a while and can't switch carriers, and was wondering if anyone could solve this dilemma for me.
I need long messages to get merged to one message for the recipient, which would probably best be suited by having them converted to mms.
I was wondering if the moto x has this feature, as it is the one phone I am looking at on at&t, or if anyone knows an app that can do this, and if I could install this on the moto x unrooted.
Handcent for example, merges them into one and converts to mms, but it needs the sms to be at least 3 sms's long before it does that, so that ones that are between 160-320 characters still get split. I know that gosms doesn't allow this either. This is work-related, so if anyone could help me I would be forever thankful.
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I have a stock, unrooted moto x on verizon, but I imagine the settings in the stock messaging app would be the same. There is an option to use MMS for Group Messaging that states "Use MMS to send a single message when there are multiple recipients". Maybe just adding your own number along with the intended recipient's and sending the long message as a group message would be an easy fix? SImilar to copying yourself in on an email.
Edit: Just tested this idea and it works. I sent a long message to myself and another recipient and it automatically sent as a single MMS. Did not receive split messages on either phone, so this could be a workaround for you.
I'm not sure if this is a moto X specific thing, but I've not had this problem on my previous phones.
So I noticed when I send a MMS to a friend (i'm on t-mobile , he's also on t-mobile with an htc one though i'm doubing that matter) he says it will say the image is too big and can't be sent or something like that. or that it can't be received.
I google about this a bit, and i saw a little bit of talk of it being a bug in the phone, and that you can't send MMS when on wifi but it would work when not on wifi (not sure how that makes any sense either). I saw some other posts about how if you send a message attached via gmail THEN send an MMS then MMS would start working , which also makes no sense to me as that seems so unrelated.
So previous to this phone i had a droid razr m (was on verizon before and even unlocked it for t-mobile for a bit) and i remember on that phone, when i sent an mms, sometimes the phone would say somethign like "this image will be resized before sending". the moto X never says that so is that a bug in the moto x? since i know that is an MMS size limit, but this phone never seems to prompt to resize.
anyway has anyone else had this issue?
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I'm not sure if this is a moto X specific thing, but I've not had this problem on my previous phones.
So I noticed when I send a MMS to a friend (i'm on t-mobile , he's also on t-mobile with an htc one though i'm doubing that matter) he says it will say the image is too big and can't be sent or something like that. or that it can't be received.
I google about this a bit, and i saw a little bit of talk of it being a bug in the phone, and that you can't send MMS when on wifi but it would work when not on wifi (not sure how that makes any sense either). I saw some other posts about how if you send a message attached via gmail THEN send an MMS then MMS would start working , which also makes no sense to me as that seems so unrelated.
So previous to this phone i had a droid razr m (was on verizon before and even unlocked it for t-mobile for a bit) and i remember on that phone, when i sent an mms, sometimes the phone would say somethign like "this image will be resized before sending". the moto X never says that so is that a bug in the moto x? since i know that is an MMS size limit, but this phone never seems to prompt to resize.
anyway has anyone else had this issue?
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YES, I have the same issue as well! Finally I found someone else that has the same problem as me haha.
When I first got my Moto X it worked just fine but recently I tried sending pictures to friends who also have T-Mobile and they all say that they can't see the picture because it says it is "too big", so along the same lines as the problem that you're having.
I going to call T-Mobile tomorrow and see if its maybe something on their side because when I check the details of the picture/message I sent, the size of the picture is under 1000KB (1000KB = 1MB which is the limit for sending MMS through T-Mobile, anything over 1MB gets stopped on their network).
Quick update:
I called T-Mobile an a representative told me that there were two ways of sending an MMS, specifically a picture, with the Moto X:
1. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Pictures. Then you select a picture from your gallery
2. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Capture Picture.
With the representative on the line, we tried both ways and figured out that option 1. works while 2. does not.
The conclusion that we came to is that if you capture a picture immediately, then it takes a full size picture and DOES NOT re-size it for MMS at all. HOWEVER, if you take a picture beforehand and then add it to a message from the gallery, it DOES re-size it.
I plan to call Motorola tomorrow and tell them about this issue so that hopefully they can either send out a fix or add it to an overall OTA update.
Hopefully I can contribute something to this forum haha :laugh:
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Quick update:
I called T-Mobile an a representative told me that there were two ways of sending an MMS, specifically a picture, with the Moto X:
1. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Pictures. Then you select a picture from your gallery
2. Stock Messaging App > Thread > Attach(Paper Clip icon) > Capture Picture.
With the representative on the line, we tried both ways and figured out that option 1. works while 2. does not.
The conclusion that we came to is that if you capture a picture immediately, then it takes a full size picture and DOES NOT re-size it for MMS at all. HOWEVER, if you take a picture beforehand and then add it to a message from the gallery, it DOES re-size it.
I plan to call Motorola tomorrow and tell them about this issue so that hopefully they can either send out a fix or add it to an overall OTA update.
Hopefully I can contribute something to this forum haha :laugh:
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If I may ask..what r u using to msg? Stock message app.. Or something else?
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If I may ask..what r u using to msg? Stock message app.. Or something else?
Slapped my Moto
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Same issue here. I am using the stock messaging app. I am on Verizon and am having trouble sending to T-Mobile. Haven't tried to other Verizon phones yet. I tried it over hangouts and had no issues, but then again Hangouts is using wifi.. Please let me know if you guys figure this one out!
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Same issue here. I am using the stock messaging app. I am on Verizon and am having trouble sending to T-Mobile. Haven't tried to other Verizon phones yet. I tried it over hangouts and had no issues, but then again Hangouts is using wifi.. Please let me know if you guys figure this one out!
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I use handcent and don't have an issue.. I like the app 1000% better than stock...try it out... See if it ur phone or just the stock app.
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I use handcent and don't have an issue.. I like the app 1000% better than stock...try it out... See if it ur phone or just the stock app.
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Eh, I've tried that and GO sms app and multiple other ones back when I had a Samsung Mesmerize. Maybe that's why I grew favor to the stock AOSP app compared to the Samsung and other third party apps. O well.
Quick troubleshooting update: Ever since we got the update to Kit Kat and the introduction of using Hangouts to SMS, I've stayed with the stock app instead of Hangouts just because I like it better. However, I will switch to Hangouts just to see if I can send pictures successfully through that. Crossing my fingers this will work and will report back if anything improves
P.S. sorry for the long absence; I've been busy with school and haven't had time to post
Hey guys, I have come back baring good things.
So I've been using Hangouts for a couple of days and MMS and picture messaging works. I can send a picture to any T-Mobile number and they can download it and view it .
The only problem that I have experienced is that sometimes I get double-texts from a friend (but that can just be due to a faulty BlackBerry ;P).
Looks like Hangouts is the way to go for now
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Hey guys, I have come back baring good things.
So I've been using Hangouts for a couple of days and MMS and picture messaging works. I can send a picture to any T-Mobile number and they can download it and view it .
The only problem that I have experienced is that sometimes I get double-texts from a friend (but that can just be due to a faulty BlackBerry ;P).
Looks like Hangouts is the way to go for now
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I've read the same issue in another thread. and the 2 fixes you mentioned came up:
1. people saying using hangouts fixes the issue
2. People saying attaching to MMS works and capturing a photo doesn't.
It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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same issue in Hangouts running the pre-installed and latest version. Also you need evidence to back that up if it's really a known bug and not a rumor.
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It's a bug with the Kit-Kat AOSP messaging apk. Other phones have this issue as well. I'm assuming that Google removed the picture compression code in an effort to get people to use Hangouts for SMS/MMS as Hangouts will compress down the pic w/o notifying you.
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If that is so, it would make sense and would make me mad at Google
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Just a quick update:
I've been using Hangouts for a quite a while now and have not had a problem since. I have nothing against Hangouts but I would like to have a dedicated MMS/SMS application because I don't really want Hangouts to be checking for messages ever so often.
I have unlimited MMS/SMS and no unlimited data anyways
So, I just upgraded from my old 4S to the moto x. i love it. It is really fast and snappy and does all the things i do exceptionally well.... except for one thing... group messaging. I can send messages out to a group, however when people reply to me the messages get sorted into separate threads from anyone on an android. it seems weird, and i have checked the MMS settings and they are all there. tried speaking with Motorola and they said it's working as intended. Was wondering if anyone else had this issue.
Also, i am on Verizon.
Thank you in advance,
-Jim
Just a heads up for anyone having this issue.
I read through some other threads and no one had an answer, i figured i'd update everyone and let them know what i found. I download Textra, this allowed me to get all my messages in one group thread. I even went back to the default texting app and all the messages were grouped. I then went and removed textra. the threads then split up again.
Long story short, it looks as though there may be some settings that you don't get the privilege of seeing with the default app. at this point textra is working and using super minimal resources so i'm ok with this.
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I read through some other threads and no one had an answer, i figured i'd update everyone and let them know what i found. I download Textra, this allowed me to get all my messages in one group thread. I even went back to the default texting app and all the messages were grouped. I then went and removed textra. the threads then split up again.
Long story short, it looks as though there may be some settings that you don't get the privilege of seeing with the default app. at this point textra is working and using super minimal resources so i'm ok with this.
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I like to try to get everyone on hangouts since almost everyone has a gmail account and it is multi-platform. I know that's not a solution to group messaging with the messaging app, but it's a great alternative I think.
Good idea,
yea, it is a good idea, i just feel like a **** telling all of my friends to use that for only me haha. this is working great and you can just use standard text messaging/mms.
Group messaging works fine on the Moto X. There does appear to be a SIM provisioning problem on some phones that can be fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441250&highlight=group
Edit: I just re-read the OP - this may not be the same issue... take a look though and see.
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Group messaging works fine on the Moto X. There does appear to be a SIM provisioning problem on some phones that can be fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2441250&highlight=group
Edit: I just re-read the OP - this may not be the same issue... take a look though and see.
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Yea I read that. I went in and I can see my phone number, I can also send the messages as MMS. For some reason when I get the replies they get split into different threads. Now that I use the textra app is has started working as it should. The weird part is it now works as it should in the stock app. Idk what behind the scenes settings it alters.
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Yea I read that. I went in and I can see my phone number, I can also send the messages as MMS. For some reason when I get the replies they get split into different threads. Now that I use the textra app is has started working as it should. The weird part is it now works as it should in the stock app. Idk what behind the scenes settings it alters.
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I have a verizon dev unit that is able to send and receive group MMS fine. So far I have only tested it with other phones on verizon though. Do you have the group messaging option turned on in the messaging settings?
Yup I went in and selected the group messaging option. The weird thing is that textra adds more options than my stock messaging app. Idk if its something that textra enables that for some reason I can't see in the normal settings. The pic with 17 at the end is my phone settings. The one with 66 is the textra app.
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So I spent about an hour and a half in total with verizon tech support and they had no idea why this is happening. I then went in and had them replace the phone at the store, sent a text before i even loaded any google accounts or settings. This issue still happened. I am kind of annoyed, but i guess i will have to try and wait for 4.4 to see if it fixes it.
I also use Textra for MMS, the stock messaging has never kept MMS in the same group for me on any of my phones. It is not a problem with the phone just Android's stock message app...kinda sucks, I've always hated it and I never use it. Textra is my newest favorite. Hoping Hangouts does a good job but until then I'm satisfied.
My group messaging worked just fine on stock messenger. Now with hangouts its still working just as good. Never really had a problen
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So I spent about an hour and a half in total with verizon tech support and they had no idea why this is happening. I then went in and had them replace the phone at the store, sent a text before i even loaded any google accounts or settings. This issue still happened. I am kind of annoyed, but i guess i will have to try and wait for 4.4 to see if it fixes it.
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It has to be a provisioning problem if it followed you to a new phone. Have you tried your SIM card in a completely different phone that supports group messaging? I know that VZW has been doing group messaging for a while now. It may be different in stock Android (group messaging didn't work until 4.2).
Another thought: do you have a different phone that you can install CM 10+ on? I believe that does group messaging in the same way that stock 4.2+ does. That would be another way to confirm the problem is with the carrier, but doing it at a VZW store on one of their phones would carry more weight.
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It has to be a provisioning problem if it followed you to a new phone. Have you tried your SIM card in a completely different phone that supports group messaging? I know that VZW has been doing group messaging for a while now. It may be different in stock Android (group messaging didn't work until 4.2).
Another thought: do you have a different phone that you can install CM 10+ on? I believe that does group messaging in the same way that stock 4.2+ does. That would be another way to confirm the problem is with the carrier, but doing it at a VZW store on one of their phones would carry more weight.
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I did not try a phone at the store, but it did follow me to a new moto x without even logging into any google accounts or anything. i unfortunately do not have any other phone that i could swap sims with to test this. It did work perfectly fine on my iphone 4s before though. Not sure if it was IOS messaging app fixing the issue with my network or not. It's odd that other apps seem to work perfectly fine though. At this point i'm going to wait for 4.4 and see if it works. VZW tech support in store and via phone have no clue.
I got my Moto X developer edition and the group messaging was working like a charm UNTIL I tried the texting from my computer application in chrome. since then, all my group texts are separated by user instead of thread.
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I got my Moto X developer edition and the group messaging was working like a charm UNTIL I tried the texting from my computer application in chrome. since then, all my group texts are separated by user instead of thread.
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Which computer application?
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Which computer application?
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I'm assuming Motorola Connect. Same thing happened with me, but now with SMS Hangouts, everything is fine.
So I just got my Moto X and its pretty awesome. My previous phone was an iPhone 3GS and I really liked iMessage but I figured that now since Android supports group sms I would take the plunge. However, after doing my first group message today I was only able to see 1 of my contact's text messages while everyone elses messages just never reached me (I guess in text message limbo).
All of the people I messaged were iPhone users (5 and 5s). Is this just a blip or just a common problem that I will have to deal with for the next 2 yrs (which I dont really want to deal with, all of my friends are iPhone users)? Could it possibly be a ATT problem, I tried texting my phone from one of my friends and immediately it went to iMessage instead of SMS but it eventually changed to text and I got it.
so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
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so I asked motorola about this issue. They said group messaging is no longer supported (wth) and I should download a 3rd party app.
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If you like the stock app check out 8sms. Works very well and supports group messaging.
I have found that group messaging on android is pretty lack luster. I've installed Google hangouts as my default sms app and just deal with the issues. Hopefully, it will get better over time. They have a ton of issues to work through though. Good luck.
I do group messaging all the time in the hangouts app. Works no problem for me at all. I do them as "group MMS" messages. Try switching your SMS app to hangouts and see if it's any better.
Oh and before you switched from the iPhone did you unregister your phone number with iMessage? If not, that might be why they're not coming through. The apple database thinks you're still on iMessage and they're getting lost in limbo. See this:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2013/11/28/switching-from-iphone-to-android-switch-off-imessage/
This has been asked in other places for other phones, but I've never seen this answered. Here's the scenario:
1. I receive a group text normally
2. I respond to the group text a few times and it works fine as a group text
3. I respond again to the same group text and it suddenly sends my message to each person individually
This is maddening! I am using a VZ Moto Maker. Still on 4.4 cuz I don't want to ruin root. Using Handcent, but I've experienced this with stock app as well.
Any ideas?
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This has been asked in other places for other phones, but I've never seen this answered. Here's the scenario:
1. I receive a group text normally
2. I respond to the group text a few times and it works fine as a group text
3. I respond again to the same group text and it suddenly sends my message to each person individually
This is maddening! I am using a VZ Moto Maker. Still on 4.4 cuz I don't want to ruin root. Using Handcent, but I've experienced this with stock app as well.
Any ideas?
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You can use Hangouts, it works for groups.
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You can use Hangouts, it works for groups.
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I'll give Hangouts a try. Hopefully it will solve this. Thanks. I wish Hangouts had the popup notification like Handcent.
Talk to verizon. Group messages are sent as mms witch uses the data side of your phone. It could just be a sim card or settings issue on there side. Are you getting all of the picture messages you are sent and do your picture messages send without issue?
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