Let me start by saying I don't currently own a Kaiser but I am tempted by it.
One of the things i need to know is how does slingplayer perform on it, especially at the highest resolution, say with the following settings:
Enable slingstream optimization
High action
video resolution : 320 by 240
audio : mono low
I have read up on all the sling related posts on this device and the results seem to be inconclusive, some say they are getting around 24 frames per second and works great, others mention that the fps is pretty low.
If you have used sling player on this device then could you please post the frames per second that you are getting at the highest resolution possible i.e. 320 by 240, both on wifi and on a 3G/HSDPA connection if possible.
Also, is the performance in full screen (landscape) just as good as in portrait mode?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
I have a Slingbox Solo connected to my cable box.
The HD channels look good, although the playback is noticibly choppy, but still very watchable. While watching some sports games, it sometimes gets hard to read the scores when they're really small and at the top. Overall I'd say it's a good experience, but personally I think it should be better given the caliber of device I'm using (a Tilt, obviously), but it could just come back to our favorite video drivers.
Anything else you'd like to know, just ask.
Thanks for the quick response, but what frame rate are you getting and what resolution and type of connection is that with?
Remote connect w/Kaiser & slingbox tuner
Great stuff...I just ordered a slingbox tuner, which is fine for my needs. I hope I will not be returning it...I have a question on how one connects to it say when you are on the road, away etc.. I have AT$T with Media.net.
I have a slingbox classic (old gray one) and I get 24fps after a minute or so with 3G, 300-400kbit/sec (limited by slingbox's connection speed). I generally use it to watch news/sports news so I cannot comment on fast moving pictures but for my usage I am happy with it.
If I start to lose phone signal down to 1-2 bars and/or connection speed to 150-200kbit/sec, screen becomes choppy (around 5fps).
the prog is good but noticably worse video quality with the tilt than the 8525/Hermes. I used the same network and video settings. I thought the video driver problem was a crock of **** until I tried sling and wow it sucks in comparision. But Sling is GREAT!
Got the box, Slingbox Tuner..hooked it up..bada bing------bada BOOM ! Works great on wi-fi, will be testing out at work he he,tomorrow...ssssshush !
anybody experiencing poor resolution quality while casting your chrome tab? I know my connection is not the problem because I have 54mpbs fiber optics...
Got to your chromecast extensions options and change the tab projection quality
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Got to your chromecast extensions options and change the tab projection quality
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yes already tried that and still same problem
I have the same problem. Any time I cast a tab I lose lots of video quality. When I cast the entire screen it looks much better but that won't allow audio streaming right now.
Netflix and youtube quality is great but chrome tab must still be in beta
<AOL>Me too</AOL>
Seeing the same thing. Casting the whole screen to my 1080p screen looks great. Casting a tab looks like someone miscoded an antialiasing routine.
Tab casting has nothing to do with your Internet speed, and everything to do with your internal network speed and PC power.
Your PC is rendering the page and streaming to the Chromecast. My HP Ultrabook can barely handle 3 frames per second using wifi, but my desktop does a good job at full 720p video hardwired to the router.
I just got my Chromecast and the Netflix/Youtube playback works awesome and I have no issues with HD, but when I stream a tab from Chrome on my Macbook Air it looks very bad. It looks the same no matter what setting I've tried and seems like there is glitching graphically, not just poor resolution. I even moved it from my TV to a desktop monitor that is close to my router and it does the same thing. Has anyone ran into this issue?
EDIT: Tried streaming a tab from my Windows desktop and it looks fine, so it appears to be isolated to my Mac.
It could be your MacBook not the chromecast.. I can share my whole screen and watch movies through chromecast without a hitch.
It diesnt sound like your WiFi is bad so it has to be your laptop
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I tried installing the Chrome beta release and it works fine now on my Macbook. I was just worried that it might somehow be defective, though I thought that would be pretty unlikely since Netflix streams perfectly. I'm not sure why I would have issues with the stable release of Chrome, but it looks perfect streaming 720p tabs on the Beta release now.
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I tried installing the Chrome beta release and it works fine now on my Macbook. I was just worried that it might somehow be defective, though I thought that would be pretty unlikely since Netflix streams perfectly. I'm not sure why I would have issues with the stable release of Chrome, but it looks perfect streaming 720p tabs on the Beta release now.
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Also while tabcasting I have noticed reducing the resolution does not impact much in image quality. I hardly see a difference. But it does reduce the stream quality. You/ anyone else having issues can try reducing the resolution to 480p using the gear icon while tabcasting. Ignore this if you are a videophile
Edit: nevermind the above. I actually did not see the attached image that is horrible quality. I did not had this bad of an issue. One more thing I have noticed is that it is better to have your laptop, connected to power, as sometimes on battery, the laptop OS power management may try to reduce wifi performance to save battery.
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Do you have a 2013 MacBook Air? I had the same problem with mine but fixed the issue by changing a setting in Chrome:
Chrome browser -> Settings -> Show advanced settings... -> In "System" uncheck "Use hardware acceleration when available".
Had the same issue and this ^^ fixed it.
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same here. stopped the stuttering too!
I have had this issue as well using Samsung Chromebook I an stating to think it has to do with my processor.
I have the same problem, with a high end laptop.
Turning off hardware acceleration worked on my 3yr old basic computer. Going to try my Asus smart tab tonight, hoping for the same results
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I'm having the same problem streaming video from within tabs. I'm using a Dell Laptop circa 2007 though. I don't use it for anything else and it's been gathering dust so I was a bit excited that I might be able to tab stream from it and maybe use it for ESPN, AMC, or HBO.
Turning off hardware acceleration did help, but I get stuttering and the audio isn't synced with the video. Switching to 480p didn't make much of a difference. I've updated all the drivers, but it's running Windows 7 and the drivers were made for XP.
I'm hoping a chromecast update may clear this up.
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I'm having the same problem streaming video from within tabs. I'm using a Dell Laptop circa 2007 though. I don't use it for anything else and it's been gathering dust so I was a bit excited that I might be able to tab stream from it and maybe use it for ESPN, AMC, or HBO.
Turning off hardware acceleration did help, but I get stuttering and the audio isn't synced with the video. Switching to 480p didn't make much of a difference. I've updated all the drivers, but it's running Windows 7 and the drivers were made for XP.
I'm hoping a chromecast update may clear this up.
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I'm convinced it is more a Chrome issue than Chromecast. I can stream 1080p video just fine if it is local. The quality stays, there is no stuttering, and audio is synced. It is only when I do online content that the issues show up.
Here's a link to the minumum system requirements for streaming.
https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3209990?hl=en
In my case, I'm running a t2300 core duo processor at 1.66 GHz. Graphics is an ATI Radion Mobility X1300. It looks like it's subpar at best based on the requirements.
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Here's a link to the minumum system requirements for streaming.
https://support.google.com/chromecast/answer/3209990?hl=en
In my case, I'm running a t2300 core duo processor at 1.66 GHz. Graphics is an ATI Radion Mobility X1300. It looks like it's subpar at best based on the requirements.
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I'm running a 1st gen i7 965 @ 3.2 GHz and 2 GTX 280's in SLI plus 12 GB of RAM with a Belkin N900 router and 105/20 Mbps connection and with my TV sitting less than 10 feet away the quality sucks!
I don't get terrible tab casting quality, but there's no doubt that the video isn't perfectly smooth. It stutters, skipping a few frames about once per second, which is pretty distracting. I'm kind of puzzled as to why.
The video plays smoothly in Chrome on the desktop system I'm casting from, whether it's an internet stream or a local MP4 file, so it's not a source problem.
I have a pretty fast desktop system doing the casting (Intel Core i5-3770K overclocked), and it never shows more than 14% CPU usage and plenty of free physical memory while casting. Switching resolutions between 480, 720, and 720 Extreme in the casting options makes a small difference to the CPU load (range 8% to 17%), but no difference at all to the stuttering video that I can see.
I think I get a pretty good connection to my WiFi-N router from the TV+Chromecast location. A laptop in the same location shows connected at 130 Mbps with Excellent signal strength. I can force a wide channel for even more speed, but it doesn't make any difference that I can see. Certainly normal internet video HD streams seem to be perfectly smooth when coming direct from Youtube or Netflix over WiFi, never a stumble. You would think that if WiFi bandwidth were the problem, switching from 720 to 480 would make a difference, but it doesn't.
So what's the problem here? Is it just a quick and dirty beta implementation by Google that doesn't do a very good job? Is there some hidden bottleneck? Is it impossible to re-encode video with high efficiency for casting on a typical system? (but in that case why are they using an algorithm that uses only a small percentage of one CPU core?)
I've tried some of the suggested tricks, like turning off hardware acceleration in Chrome, which increases CPU usage a bit, but makes not much if any apparent difference in smoothness of video. I've also tried disabling real-time anti-virus checking, but it's hard to tell if it's any better.
I not sure if there are any other Chromecast owners who actually get smooth video tab casting performance or not. People who say it's fine for them may not have looked very closely, and maybe wouldn't notice video stuttering unless it was pointed out to them.
There's more to it than CPU bandwidth but I can't say what.
I can say that I am well aware of what stuttering and frame loss looks like and I get little to none on a MacBook Pro that doesn't meet Google's requirements for tab casting.
I guess my point is that it's still in beta and we all can hope for better.
Have you tried using Plex?
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Have you tried using Plex?
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I don't see how using Plex would make any difference. Plex doesn't have native Chromecast support, so I'd still be casting a tab.
Well whatever the problem is at least it only cost $35 because I would be really pissed if I paid more for it in its current state.
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I went out and bought a n n150 usb wifi adapter for my desktop. It's an I5-33570k processor overclocked to 4.5GHz, 8 Gb of ram, and a GTX570 graphics card. I'm getting much better reslts from this than my circa 2007 dell laptop.. Video is definitely watchable and quality is generally SD or better. There is some very slight frame loss, which is noticable. The wifi signal is --60dbm where the chromecast is.
I still need to play around with some settings. I have the chromecast set to 720p, but not extreme bandwidth. For some reason unchecking hardware accelerationleads to videos not taking up the entire tab.
I have almost the same desktop system configuration as you Wrngway, and I get the same results: reasonable tab-casting performance with low CPU utilization, but still getting some very noticeable dropped frames.
I also tried my 2009-vintage Core-2 Duo laptop (P8400 CPU at 2.27 GHz). No good - 100% CPU utilization, the video stutters on the laptop screen and on the Chromecast it's just jerky frames and then it freezes after a few seconds. Dropping the res to 480p improves things slightly, but still not watchable.
Actually I have a new theory about what's wrong with tab casting that causes it to skip frames and stutter even though it's running at low CPU utilization. The problem is that it isn't buffering enough. When you compare the Chromecast TV output to the computer screen, it's obvious that there's less than 1/2 sec. lag. When the picture content changes rapidly in the incoming video stream, there's a spike in decoding/encoding performance requirement that momentarily exceeds real-time CPU capacity, causing frames to be dropped. An instant later it catches up when the performance requirement drops. The CPU utilization is relatively low on average, but there's still not enough CPU power to handle the peaks. The solution would be more buffering and less aggressive frame dropping. There's actually a buffer length setting in the hidden Chrome extension settings, but it doesn't appear to have any effect. In any case, the encoding algorithm would have be smartened up to not drop frames as long as there's plenty of buffer time to catch up.
As promised in another thread, I captured a video of the native full-screen mirroring lag.
Delay is half a second or less, video seems shows closer to quarter of second. Content doesn't seem to matter much - feels like the same delay mirroring streaming TV.
Sorry, the darn rolling shutter makes it pretty much impossible to discern the hundredths of a second, tenths are barely legible...
And please ignore the audio - my wife was wondering what I was doing... as usual. :angel:
Video: https://copy.com/f04CuUFQkoNo
If you want to run your own test, the timer video is from MediaCollege.com and the MP4 version should play natively without needing any conversion.
Casting Device Specs:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 SGH-I747
KitKit 4.4.2 Stock rooted I747UCUFNE4
Google Play Services version 5.0.84 (1259630-036)
Chromecast app version 1.7.4
Playing via MX Player 1.7.28
Screen casting enabled via MirrorEnabler
Connected to 5 GHz WiFi on Netgear WNDR4500 router
WiFi signal strength: Excellent
Chromecast Specs:
Build 17250 (Eureka-ROM 17250.003, but should not matter stock or not)
Connected to 2.4 GHz WiFi on Netgear WNDR4500 router
WiFi signal strength: Excellent
Have you tried to stream a movie or channel like from xbmc? I have a Sprint Galaxy s3 and the same router also. I have used VLC player with my movies. I have a network with 30/3 speeds.
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To add more my problem is while I'm on xbmc playing a channel it will buffer and lose sound then the soundtrack will be off from video like about 5 to 10 seconds.
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Have you tried to stream a movie or channel like from xbmc? I have a Sprint Galaxy s3 and the same router also. I have used VLC player with my movies. I have a network with 30/3 speeds.
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I don't use XBMC but I've played TV episodes from Xfinity TV Go (which doesn't support Chromecast) and haven't noticed any problems.
Since the screen mirroring traffic is also going through WiFi along with your streaming it'll take up more WiFi bandwidth so signal reception on all devices involved becomes more critical.
I tried the same with AllShare Cast (I have an AllShare Wireless Hub connected to another input on the same TV) and while yet lag is similar, I noticed that WiFi Direct seemed to limit general network traffic more. My streaming playback video would break up from time to time. No such problem with Chromecast mirroring.
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I don't use XBMC but I've played TV episodes from Xfinity TV Go (which doesn't support Chromecast) and haven't noticed any problems.
Since the screen mirroring traffic is also going through WiFi along with your streaming it'll take up more WiFi bandwidth so signal reception on all devices involved becomes more critical.
I tried the same with AllShare Cast (I have an AllShare Wireless Hub connected to another input on the same TV) and while yet lag is similar, I noticed that WiFi Direct seemed to limit general network traffic more. My streaming playback video would break up from time to time. No such problem with Chromecast mirroring.
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my chromecast was eating dust for 1 month because my g2 have so much lag over screencast that it takes 10 sec just to navigate. pictures and videos were like crazy late.
now i bought nexus 7 and man even the videos on my device runs smooth...
whats the issue with g2?? tried both stock, custom, g3 port and aosp.
laptop lag
Having this lag issue using cast entire screen even just on the desktop moving the mouse works fine using an s4 & g3 anyone have a fix yet?
If you have Netflix, this is a way to check your Chromecast's throughput.
Unlike a simple Internet speed test (which tests the throughput from some Internet server to your router), this test helps diagnose Chromecast's throughput, which is limited by its WiFi signal reception.
Play this video:
http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/70136810
You should start the video fresh when changing conditions - resuming from pause doesn't always seem to increase the rate.
Throughput Diagnostics:
The bitrate and resolution will gradually rise during playback.
Under ideal conditions (excellent WiFi signal and adequate Internet bandwidth) you should be getting a bitrate of 5800 at 1920x1080 resolution on Chromecast.
Oddly enough, my desktop computer gets bitrate 3000 at 1280x720 resolution on a powerline connection. I'm not sure why it's limited, it should be able to do higher bitrate and 1080p. YouTube seems to prefer 720p over 1080p on this machine as well, so might have something to do with ping times or something. *shrug*
If the video buffers or the bitrate remains consistently low on Chromecast and you know it's not your Internet speed holding things back, then your Chromecast's throughput is being limited by your WiFi. Probably Chromecast has poor reception - try the HDMI extender and/or repositioning or reorienting your router.
TV/Sound diagnostics:
From the 8:40 mark there are good test patterns to help diagnose aspect ratio and overscan issues that you might be having with your TV too.
The large white circle should be circular (tilt your head to check)
On the grid with circles should, the corner circles should touch the edges of the screen but not be cut off. If they're cut off, your TV is performing Overscan or is not in 1:1 pixel mode (if it's a 1080p TV).
The subtitles also seem to imply there are some subtitle font/color changes and multichannel audio tests, but I only have 2.1 sound so I can't tell, and all my subtitles are fixed-size and yellow (probably the Netflix Chromecast app doesn't support the different subtitle formats yet).
I think because you were using chrome browser to streaming this content.
Because of security reason, the limitation of bitrate is set to 3000. if you are using safari you could reach 5800.