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every once in a while i will go into my advance task killer and see a bunch of apps running that i didnt manually open. i just checked my phone to see sprint nav, mp3 store, droid locator, internet, ringdroid, etc.. it also takes my phone from 71m free to about 35-40m. ill kill the apps, and they will be open again without me touching the phone. am i stupid, or is there actually a problem?
Okay bc those stock apps are coded to run at startup, and open themselfs for ease-of-access, this is normal. If you want to stop that, add them to autokill, and use a startup manager (market) to remove them from the start up screen.
For the mem issues, try disabling the GPS lovation services, that eats up battery life AND mem, same with internet.
If you really want your phone to fly, don't use a task killer.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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If you really want your phone to fly, don't use a task killer.
http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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In theory this is true but in reality it couldn't be more misleading. Yes a task killer, especially one that is always running and using up resources itself is probably less than optimal in an Android environment, however they are sometimes necessary because things do not always work as they are supposed to. If you have root it is better to just use AutoKiller as it doesn't just kill programs but helps the OS by allowing you to set the limits for when the OS should start closing things. It also allows you to manually kill anything not working right.
Of course this is just my opinion, but I have tried it both ways on 3 different Android phones and my results were the same on all.
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however they are sometimes necessary because things do not always work as they are supposed to.
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There's a section at the bottom that goes over this.
It's really more of an explanation that "Having free RAM will make my phone faster" will not make your phone faster.
Ok, so we all want the best of the best of experiences for our DX superphone. Well, I am here to tell you how I have my setup.
The goals of the ultimate setup are to:
1. Keep as much privacy as possible
2. Ensure the best performance
3. Ensure best method to extend battery life
4. Ensure best feel
5. Ensure HAPPINESS!
NUMBER ONE:
First things first; we need to install the absolute best ROM right now. The ROM is called FISSION 1.1 by Team DeFuse. You will most likely have to re-root the phone after installing though. It is worth the hassle.
Known issues with Fission 1.1 but I'm sure will be fixed:
1. Compass Calibration
2. No custom battery profiles
NUMBER TWO:
We need to install all of our applications.
NUMBER THREE:
If you don't have them already, download the paid version of Titanium Backup and the application called AUTOSTARTS and very very importantly, DROID WALL, SetCPU, CacheMate and also very importantly, Advanced Task Killer
NUMBER FOUR:
Restart phone. Upon reboot, we will first open up Droid Wall and give it root privileges. Then, we are going to fill in both boxes with checkmarks next to only the applications which you use a lot and need internet access! It is good practice to look at what all apps need access to when installing applications. If an app like Notepad for instance needs Internet Access, we know there is a problem. It is apps like these, we don't want to have access to the internet.
You will also have to have checkmarks next to "Media Server", "Browser", "Calender", "Calender Storage", "Email", "Google Search", "Maps", "Market", "Messaging", "Street View", and "Visual VM". Those are the ones which need to be allowed in order to not cripple your Android experience. Obviously, the remaining apps are UP TO YOU.
You should manually disable and re-enable the firewall after every reboot! You then want to kill Droid Wall and the other showing apps with Advanced Task Killer. Once Droid Wall sets the firewall rules, they stick regardless if the app is running or not. There is no need to leave it running.
NUMBER FIVE:
Now, we are going to open up the program AUTOSTARTS! It will take awhile to load all of the apps of your system. This app makes it so you can actually reliably use ADVANCED TASK KILLER without the apps you kill AUTOMATICALLY restarting and thus wasting precious battery.
You want to disable all your 3rd-party user apps in EVERY CATEGORY except for the Widget Categories at the bottom. For the first app you disable from starting, you will have to give AUTOSTARTS root privileges.
Don't disable "Google Voice", "Visual VM", "Dialer", "usb", "Dialer Storage", "Battery Manager", "Battery Manager (Power Profile Receiver)", "Google Partner Setup", "Google Services Framework", "Voice Dialer" (If you use it), "Email" (If you use it), "Messaging", "Bluetooth Share" (If you use Bluetooth), "Contacts Storage", "Droid Wall", "SetCPU", "ADW Launcher" (If use it), "Launcher Prof" (If use it) or "Launcher" (If use the stock launcher)
Everything else should be clicked on and disabled except for apps which are your widgets on your homescreens and in the Widget Categories!
You are going to notice a crazy increase in speed from this!!!!
NUMBER SIX:
We need to reboot. Upon reboot, open up ADVANCED TASK KILLER. We now need to put some apps on the ignore list.
The apps I have on my ignore list are:
SetCPU, Messaging, Music, Google Search, Market, Visual VM, Beautiful Widgets, Voice Search, K-9 Mail and Google Voice
You would also want to put any apps which are related to any widgets you have on your homescreens on the ignore list too!
This will effectively make it so any app we close, IS CLOSED FOR GOOD until we ourselves initiate it MANUALLY.
NUMBER SEVEN:
My phone is a dud; well at least the CPU is. It won't go over 1100mhz and be stable regardless of how much voltage I crank into 'er. So, for my phone, I modified the 1.1Ghz .zip folder which is installed in the Fission folder of your SDCard when you install Fission. I modified the setscaling.sh in text editor and changed the following values:
Changed the 800mhz to 900mhz. You may or may not have to raise the voltages that they have pre-set for the 800mhz and 1100mhz settings. If you are not stable, just give each of them a couple notches of increase.
NUMBER EIGHT:
Upon reboot, we need to setup SetCPU. We are going to create 3 profiles
1. Screen off --> 300min / 600max --> OnDemand
2. Charging AC/FULL --> 300min / 600max --> OnDemand
3. Charging USB/FULL --> 300min/ 600max --> OnDemand
We then go back to the homescreen "of SetCPU" and change our values of what we want the phone to do whenever the screen is on and it is not charging. Here we want to put 900mhz for the min and 1100mhz for the max.
For some reason, even if SetCPU is not disabled in AUTOSTARTS, it doesn't load the values upon reboot. You will have to manually open up SetCPU just one time for each reboot.
IMPORTANT: If you want to OC higher or maybe not even at all, have at it. However, I still think SetCPU and the profiles I listed above would be great for you.
NUMBER NINE:
This may not be an option for some of you, but I like to disable remembering form data, cookies, cache, passwords, and history on my browsers.
The best browser to use "IMHO" is the new XSCOPES version 6.
If you like some other browser, just change the privacy settings to those of above to be safe. If you can't live without, then just don't worry about it.
NUMBER TEN:
Install CacheMate for Root Users.
In the settings we want to have checked:
1. Clear TA Utility Caches
2. Close CacheMate on Close
3. Clear Admob and Google
4. Clear Flash Cache
5. Clear Temporary Cache
Then, we want to have everything checked in Data Experimental and SDCard which is Relevant to our phone. For any app you don't have, don't put a check next to it. If you use apps like APMobile (Associated Press), you want to uncheck that and apps like it so you don't have to set it up every time you open the app.
I don't really like letting CacheMate run all the time being set to automatically clear on intervals. I didn't mention it, but I NEVER leave ADVANCED TASK KILLER run all the time either.
Uncheck power clear on the main screen and clear the cache ever day or two.
NUMBER ELEVEN:
Install ADW Launcher. It is by far better than LauncherPro. Only continue to use LauncherPro if you can't live without its widgets.
In ADW Launcher, we want certain settings done.
1. In Screen Preferences, we want to have both Desktop Scrolling Speed and Desktop Overshoot set to "0"
2. In Drawer Settings, we want animated drawer check, show app labels checked, fade app labels checked and for background color, I like to use a dark color with some transparency!
For Zoom Effect speed, set it to its lowest setting of 300ms
3. Under System Preferences, we want to check Wallpaper Hack and set Scrolling Cache to "Auto". Obviously, if you have widgets, you will want to check scrollable widget support.
4. In UI Settings, I check everything besides:
Dockbar, Closing folder, Secondary ActionButtons and Show Desktop Indicator.
I have AB Scale Factor set to "5".
After you get your homescreens all set up EXACTLY how you want them, backup both the desktop configuration and backup ADW settings. Also, make sure to do another backup in Titanium so when you restore ADW Launcher after installing a new ROM, it is exactly how you had it before.
NUMBER TWELVE:
Open up the program which is already installed called Spare Parts. It will be in your App Drawer. Don't install it again from the market unless you for some reason don't already have it in your app drawer.
1. I have haptic feedback and compatibility mode checked.
2. Set the "Window Animations" and "Transition Animations" to FAST
NUMBER THIRTEEN:
Do a Titanium Backup via Batch operation.
1. There are only 2 options in the batch operation options which you should ever need to use!!! They are:
A) RUN - Backup all new apps & newer versions
B) RUN - Restore Missing Apps with data
Run the backup every once in awhile to keep the backup of your apps up to date.
IMPORTANT:
When restoring apps, UNCHECK ALL SYSTEM APPS FROM BEING RESTORED!
The paid version gives you HyperShell which means you don't have to manually click each app when it is restoring. It makes the process very simple.
You also want to uninstall the older version of Flash Player and get the newer one from the market.
I have followed this guide for Titanium and have installed numerous ROMS for the Droid 1, HTC Droid Incredible and now the Droid X WITHOUT EVER HAVING ISSUES!!!
NUMBER FOURTEEN:
Go into ROM Manager and install the AOSP Keyboard under /Download ROM/Drod2169/CHANGE OPTIONS-Focused-1.0/AOSP KEYBOARD
You will automatically have to check FIXED 8MP AOSP Camera as well. That is the camera installed by default on Fission 1.1 so it won't hurt anything. Don't check backup data or wipe data/cache!
Also, I would install both QuickOffice and DX_Music.zip under the SDCard/Fission/Add-Ons directory. You obviously have to do this in Recovery!!!
The Music player will be 100% identical to the one that comes installed by default on Fission 1.1, but it gives you the option to pause play and seek tracks from the lockscreen!
NUMBER FIFTEEN:
Install any themes or mods which are compatible with your ROM and set up your sounds and everything else you like to do and enjoy your android device to its fullest
I know I probably missed a couple things but will update when I remember.
VIVA LA ANDROID
EDIT: I had Fission 1.0 for some reason. I meant Fission 1.1. I'd also like to point out that Rubix 1.0 is the same exact thing as Fission but with more optimizations and tweaks. I ran them both but slightly prefer Fission 1.1
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Nice post!
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Thanks a lot! That's all derived from months of obsessive learning along with trial and error
How dare you recommend Advanced Task Killer. You need to have your Android License revoke immediately.
Since we're talking about rooted phones and memory management, use Autokiller. It does what android already does natively, only better.
Nice write up, but do yourself a favor and get rid of ATK!
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How dare you recommend Advanced Task Killer. You need to have your Android License revoke immediately.
Since we're talking about rooted phones and memory management, use Autokiller. It does what android already does natively, only better.
Nice write up, but do yourself a favor and get rid of ATK!
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Please don't get caught up on the ATK thing. I don't want this thread turning into a pro or con ATK. One will however say that ATK without AUTOSTARTS is pointless. Due to AUTOSTARTS, ATK is once again relevant and really beneficial.
If the app AUTOSTARTS or anything like it wasn't available, I wouldn't tell anyone to install ATK. With my setup, any app we kill with ATK will not be automatically restarting thus wasted battery. That was the biggest issue with ATK before AUTOSTARTS was available. Now, anything we kill are only apps we ourselves initiated.
Apps left running do still use CPU resources. The latest privacy study of Androids apps show that 50% or so of the tested apps sent private information to advertisers in the background.
When the Android system only has like ~40mb of free system RAM available, the system will no matter what bog down somewhat. We can get rid of this from ever happening.
Just put the little green ATK widget on your main homescreen and one tap and your done. The ATK widget takes the same amount of space as an icon. It is simple and easy.
Doing it like this ensure at no point EVER is the Android system going to lag.
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Well was I happy seeing those post when did you get a Droid X.
-McMex
A few weeks ago. Excellent device too. I'm confident that the locked BL will be defeated. I'm running through some of luv2increase's mods now... I like the idea of being able to defeat autostart and place strict control over the apps I allow to run.
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A few weeks ago. Excellent device too. I'm confident that the locked BL will be defeated. I'm running through some of luv2increase's mods now... I like the idea of being able to defeat autostart and place strict control over the apps I allow to run.
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Yes it is an excellent device just today I posted on Twitter I have all the high end Android phones and the Motorola implementation of the Droid X is by far the best nice polish too. I been playing a lot with SetCpu profiles (removing bloatware via adb) and power saving settings and can get over 18 hours of heavy usage. Just starting to try these other ROMs out. As always if you need a tester or I can help you with something let me know I have been on Android a while now and have a lot of experience and a ton of apps.
A lot of you guys have no idea the asset that Sleuth is having a Droid X.
-McMex
Alot of great tips in the OP. I actually run with almost this exact setup. I am using Rubix 1.0, though. Great rom. These tips will help tremendously with performance and battery life. Thanks for passing this along.
I'm running CM7 and I'm happy with how it performs compared to stock rom. I see improvement in battery and memory usage. So that's good.
However, some apps like facebook, maps, tango etc still appear to become active in the background.
Is there an application which will easily let me manage rights for every app I have on the device? I dont want to freeze them, just change their permissions so they never do anything unless I intentionally start an app.
When I was on stock ROM i tried an app killer with auto kill. So i'd kill apps that were displayed. Check back a few minutes later and everything was back running again..
So to sum up..a good app manager that works nicely with CM7?
Edit: i found something called privacy blocker but I think that wont let me prevent apps from running by themselves....
Edit-2: Nevermind, its not going to work I think...reading this made me realise that some apps me be terminated at start-up, but preventing from booting at a later point is near impossible. Too bad. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14889
Just ignore them, Android knows how to manage it's RAM effectively.
If you won´t use some apps, use TitaniumBackup (from Market) and freeze apps you are never using.
After flashing a rom onto my LG P990 it works flawlessly-everything is nuttery smooth, fast and reliable but after some uptime and few days of using it suddenly starts to lag. It really pisses me off since P990 is quite powerfull when it comes to specs but my friends Galaxy S somehow maintains it's performance.
So the question is how to make sure that my phone will not reduce it's performance so drastically over time?
I'm runnig latest Temasek's KANG and ETaNa's latest beta kernel with 1,4GHz OC.
Do you have alot of apps installed?
Try to see how much RAM usage you have on boot and after it starts to drop performance.
Yeah I read somewhere that there is a memory leak problem with the o2x...restart your phone once in 3 days..things should be fine
Rebooting doesn't help. If it did I would assume that it's simply because an app/apps is causing the drop and then I would try to find it. I do have a lot of apps on my phone but most of them shouldn't be running by themselves in the backgroud (mostly games and such).
I have same problem (on ICS ROMs). After flash, everything is fast, after few days....I have to wait for call for 30 sec....horrible...
I have noticed that problem witch made me a flashaholic .. you could begin with deleting facebook app, messenger and google plus (drainers) then dl rom manager and set in on hard gaming , worked ok for me
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Also I have a major USB issue. Almost always after turning off storage mode the phone just hangs and I have to remove the battery to restart it. Sometimes it even reboots by itself while transfering files.
Memory leak... If this problem annoys you flash a stock froyo rom or cm based rom..
Have been using CM7 for probably 12 months, but the performance in the last few weeks seems to have got much worse....
i think it could be a baseband issue...I am ...during the verification of the existing problem ...
Since rebooting and installing the tweakaio.zip with lagfree patch for my kernel everything seems better. Not freshly-flashed good but much better.
I don't have any problems with my O2X. It runs buttery-smooth even after two weeks without rebooting. However, the internal IO does get pretty slow after a while. It's nothing too dramatic though.
Heres my recommendation;
Latest Temasek ROM & Kernel
Use the built-in ramhack (this really helps alot!)
Using TitaniumBackup, freeze un-needed apps or uninstall them (be careful with this, make backups. This is mainly meant for system apps that you don't need, i.e. Car Home so they won't fill up your RAM unnecessarily)
Using Autorun Manager just prevent most apps from auto-starting themselves.
Optional; let a task manager kill apps for you periodically. I always read that it's not good to use task managers but I never seem to have any problems with them. I've got 200MB RAM free all the time, even after several days of usage. To prevent killing specific apps just add them to the ignore list of your task manager.
You could also use the lagfree + dalvik cache fix by tonyp and adjust the LMK values.
This setup is working perfectly fine for me, just try it out yourself.
Edit: I also have to note that I don't have many apps installed. Just the things that I really need such as AlarmDroid, the XDA Premium App (!), PimpMyCpu, etc.
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I don't have any problems with my O2X. It runs buttery-smooth even after two weeks without rebooting. However, the internal IO does get pretty slow after a while. It's nothing too dramatic though.
Heres my recommendation;
Latest Temasek ROM & Kernel
Use the built-in ramhack (this really helps alot!)
Using TitaniumBackup, freeze un-needed apps or uninstall them (be careful with this, make backups. This is mainly meant for system apps that you don't need, i.e. Car Home so they won't fill up your RAM unnecessarily)
Using Autorun Manager just prevent most apps from auto-starting themselves.
Optional; let a task manager kill apps for you periodically. I always read that it's not good to use task managers but I never seem to have any problems with them. I've got 200MB RAM free all the time, even after several days of usage. To prevent killing specific apps just add them to the ignore list of your task manager.
You could also use the lagfree + dalvik cache fix by tonyp and adjust the LMK values.
This setup is working perfectly fine for me, just try it out yourself.
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good call.
lately ive been using etana kernel with the oall mighty temaseks rom, but the music for eg gets clipped when i open other apps start wifi/bt while playing
xilw3r said:
good call.
lately ive been using etana kernel with the oall mighty temaseks rom, but the music for eg gets clipped when i open other apps start wifi/bt while playing
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I never listen to music on my phone so I can't help you out with that. Try a different kernel?
I've come across a couple recommended apps that seem to do the same thing. I'm hoping you guys can help me pick which one does the job the best and if there really is no difference which one would be the most lightweight. Thanks!
For ad blocking:
AdAway
AdBlock Plus for Android
For my friend who has 1GB internal and 16GB mSD who wants to move as much as possible to her mSD:
FolderMount
Link2SD Plus (The Paid Version)
Root Uninstalling Apps Without Leaving Behind Gunk
Clean Master (With Root Access)
Root Toolbox Pro (Paid Version)
Root App Delete
Root Uninstaller Pro (Paid Version)
SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Titanium Backup Pro (Paid Version)
Junk Cleaning
Clean Master
CCleaner
SD Maid
EDIT:
Best Note Taking App for School:
S Note
Papyrus
Lecture Notes
Best OCR app that exports to pdf, txt, or anything I can copy/paste from? Apps I am considering:
CamScanner
OCR Instantly
Samsung Optical Reader
I use adfree. It doesn't mess up CNN or BBC app.
The ext SD card fix goes a long way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2903733
Titanium backup pro
Cachemate
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I use adfree. It doesn't mess up CNN or BBC app.
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Cachemate
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I used to use AdFree since my G1 but I switched to AdAway when the hosts stopped updating. Cachemate I used to use since my G1 also but found Clean Master to be vastly superior.
The hosts still update. They didn't for a while.
Same with adaway.
Google can't openly support ad blocking software:
I wouldn't use clean master. If you like it. Then you answered your own question:
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The hosts still update. They didn't for a while.
Same with adaway.
Google can't openly support ad blocking software:
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Well if AdFree still updates its hosts I'd seriously consider switching back
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I wouldn't use clean master. If you like it. Then you answered your own question:
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I just felt cachemate hasn't been effective enough since the jump to Donut. What's your opinion on CCleaner and SD Maid? I have shared the same sentiments as that screenshot tbh
Just updated adfree:
Force closes with ccleaner.
Sd maid works and does more than cachemate.
That's a good find:
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I've come across a couple recommended apps that seem to do the same thing. I'm hoping you guys can help me pick which one does the job the best and if there really is no difference which one would be the most lightweight. Thanks!
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They might look like apps doing the same thing but actually they are all very different.
Root Uninstalling Apps Without Leaving Behind Gunk
Clean Master (With Root Access)
Does remove apps including left overs, but is far from leightweight. There are also some concerns about the app as a whole ( google a bit, build your own opinion). I consider it "scareware".
Root Toolbox Pro (Paid Version)
I'm not sure if this actually supports root uninstall? I'm pretty sure though it doesn't clean up after uninstalls.
Root App Delete
Does support root uninstalls, but does not clean up after them AFAIK.
Root Uninstaller Pro (Paid Version)
Has quite extensive options in terms of app management, but also does not clean up after uninstall AFAIK.
SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Does support root uninstalls and also cleans up after uninstalls. You also don't need the paid verison for this. (Full disclosure: This is my app).
Titanium Backup Pro (Paid Version)
Supports root uninstalls, but not clean up of leftovers, though that's not it's job (it's a backup app).
Junk Cleaning
Clean Master
CCleaner
SD Maid
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner.
For Adblocking, "AdAway" does seems to work better. Sadly the dev has not a lot of spare time to keep it updated, but it's opensource and there is a nice community around it keeping working. Neither one is really bad though.
FolderMount and Link2SD are two different concepts (links vs mounts). Read up on both. I think Link2SD does not work in all scenarios.
If you are looking to get some good tools out of yours listed, get TitaniumBackup, SD Maid and AdAway. You won't regret it.
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Force closes with ccleaner.
Sd maid works and does more than cachemate.
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Is it this CacheMate you're talking about? It's the one I'm referring too. Just wanting to make sure because you've convinced me lol
Dark3n;58350534SD Maid Pro (Paid Version)
Does support root uninstalls and also cleans up after uninstalls. You also don't need the paid verison for this. (Full disclosure: [URL="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013063" said:
This is my app[/URL]).
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner
If you are looking to get some good tools out of yours listed, get TitaniumBackup, SD Maid and AdAway. You won't regret it.
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Well sir I applaud you on an absolutely thorough and well coded app! I have had it installed on my Android devices for the past 3 years and I must say I never knew it was this powerful! The GUI is really awesome now too so definitely hats off for that. I'm pretty much convinced what to go with!
As far as FolderMount and Link2SD I've read things regarding those apps with my friend's phone specifically and apparently Link2SD has broken a mSD here and there so I'll play with FolderMount on her phone. Thanks!
Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
Dark3n said:
While you should remember that SD Maid is my app (bias?), i would still whole heartedly recommended it over Clean Master and CCleaner.
If you really don't want SD Maid for some reason, go with CCleaner.
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I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Can't really say, there is too much influencing everything, including peoples own psychology. Troubleshooting would start with making it reproduceable, then see what tool specifically causes and then check logcats.
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Updated with more questions Didn't see a reason to start a new topic :good:
I installed SD Maid on my friend's phone (Cherry Mobile Omege HD 2.0) and she says SwiftKey and HoverChat are noticeable slower since I uninstalled Clean Master and put SD Maid (free) on there. Would you happen to know why it effects those 2 apps specifically? She also doesn't use SwiftKey predictions (since she texts a lot in the native dialect) if that helps with the troubleshooting.
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Those apps really use a lot of cached data to respond to your actions (get the word you're trying to swipe correct) and most cleaning utilities clean out the app caches as well as the system cache. So after cleaning, some apps and possibly even the system itself will seem to respond a little slower which is only because it's rebuilding it's cache. Unless the slowdown seemed to last for an excessively long time, that's just normal and not "bad" behavior.
I'm of the opinion that cleaning caches / other junk that accumulates on your system is a good practice, to be done pretty frequently. In exchange for that period of slowdown, while caches are rebuilding, the entire phone, including those apps will get a speed-boost, but I'd think a person is more likely to think that their phone is "acting normally again" than to really notice that boost.
SD Maid Pro and Clean Master are actually my two favorite maintenance utilities. Clean Master in particular has stepped up its game huge time as of late, packing a plethora of super useful functions into it. Among the best is it's auto-start manager (only works for root users). Starting on my N4, I actually switched from Avast to CM Antivirus. Even when I had Avast running, CM was the only app to ever give me popup warnings that a sideloaded app was potentially malicious. Usually a false positive, but still.
Anyway, back to your question, when your friend complained of the slowdown, was it generally very soon after running a cleaner? I'd recommend that she reinstall at least CM, then after running it, just leave her phone sitting for about 10-15 mins. I would think that after that, any noticeable change in the performance of the app would be pretty significantly reduced.
jazzmachine said:
Those apps really use a lot of cached data to respond to your actions (get the word you're trying to swipe correct) and most cleaning utilities clean out the app caches as well as the system cache. So after cleaning, some apps and possibly even the system itself will seem to respond a little slower which is only because it's rebuilding it's cache. Unless the slowdown seemed to last for an excessively long time, that's just normal and not "bad" behavior.
I'm of the opinion that cleaning caches / other junk that accumulates on your system is a good practice, to be done pretty frequently. In exchange for that period of slowdown, while caches are rebuilding, the entire phone, including those apps will get a speed-boost, but I'd think a person is more likely to think that their phone is "acting normally again" than to really notice that boost.
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I was thinking the same thing regarding the rebuilding of cache. Also I've noticed SD Maid finds things Clean Master doesn't but also vice versa.
Out of the topic of cleaners anyone wanna share their $0.02 on my edited OP of best organized note taking app for school and best OCR app that exports to a copy/paste-able file like pdf or txt?
jazzmachine said:
Starting on my N4, I actually switched from Avast to CM Antivirus. Even when I had Avast running, CM was the only app to ever give me popup warnings that a sideloaded app was potentially malicious. Usually a false positive, but still.
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I'm pretty sure Avast also checks sideloaded apps. Why would you rather have false positive results than just being notified when there is actually something?
I'd also like to point out over new year CM considered SD Maids Unlocker to be "malicious" and a "virus" that can "slow down the device" or "cause freezes". While the "false positive" may have been an overzealous database match, the information about it "slowing down the device" or "freezing it" is just pure bull**** that only serves the purpose of making it sound worse, and subsequently giving you the user the feeling of everything running smoother. Don't be manipulated by psychological cues.
CM may produce good results or not, but no matter what results their behavior undermines any good will you could have towards their apps. It's the textbook definition of scareware.
jazzmachine said:
after running it, just leave her phone sitting for about 10-15 mins. I would think that after that, any noticeable change in the performance of the app would be pretty significantly reduced.
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Apps regenerate their cache only on demand, as not all apps are running all the time, most apps will not regenerate caches just by waiting. In some cases the app has to be actually opened, in other cases apps that act on intents, may start and generate caches seemingly random.
ThR1LL said:
I was thinking the same thing regarding the rebuilding of cache.
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You can exclude specific caches if it's always causing issues, if you are rooted you can also restrict cache cleaning to files that are older than X days.
Evernote is a fairly popular and pretty extensive note taking solution. Not sure how far you can get for free though. Some features require a premium subscription.
Dark3n said:
CM may produce good results or not, but no matter what results their behavior undermines any good will you could have towards their apps. It's the textbook definition of scareware.
Evernote is a fairly popular and pretty extensive note taking solution. Not sure how far you can get for free though. Some features require a premium subscription.
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I recently reinstalled Clean Master to test something out and that is how I found out both apps clean things the other doesn't. For example I used the App Control tab on SD Maid to uninstall a couple apps. After running Clean Master it would pick up empty folders left behind from the uninstall that SD Maid didn't pick up in the System and Tombstones scan.
On a side note. Anyone recommend a sweet OCR app that exports to a searchable and copy/paste-able format?