I've done quite a bit of searching, to no avail, but I am having an issue I'd like to find a resolution to, or at the very least, find the culprit. I've been testing some CM10.x builds (not from a single dev, from many) for my Vivid for a few weeks now, and I am constantly detecting ARP Spoof attacks/ARP poison/Man-in-the-middle attacks. It doesn't matter what ROM, if its CM based, it's been happening consistently. I realize the simple fix is to not use those ROMs, how ever I am worried for others out there, and not just my own personal discomfort. So, I am calling for a meeting of minds. Is anyone else aware of this type of issue? Is this an exploit embedded in the ROM, an apk (inspected them and turned up nothing so far), a foothold stored on the SD card, or something else I've not covered? Any information and or assistance will be greatly appreciated. And hopefully, not only by me. I have loads of faith in the devs and mods on here and only with to help. Thanks in advance!
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I've done quite a bit of searching, to no avail, but I am having an issue I'd like to find a resolution to, or at the very least, find the culprit. I've been testing some CM10.x builds (not from a single dev, from many) for my Vivid for a few weeks now, and I am constantly detecting ARP Spoof attacks/ARP poison/Man-in-the-middle attacks. It doesn't matter what ROM, if its CM based, it's been happening consistently. I realize the simple fix is to not use those ROMs, how ever I am worried for others out there, and not just my own personal discomfort. So, I am calling for a meeting of minds. Is anyone else aware of this type of issue? Is this an exploit embedded in the ROM, an apk (inspected them and turned up nothing so far), a foothold stored on the SD card, or something else I've not covered? Any information and or assistance will be greatly appreciated. And hopefully, not only by me. I have loads of faith in the devs and mods on here and only with to help. Thanks in advance!
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What security suite (that you really don't need) is throwing the warnings?
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DNS logs initially, doing it old school. But then I tried DroidSheepGuard on the device for faster notifications. Also tried WiFi Protector. They both have their positives and negatives. But good ol' DNS logs and event viewers never fail me there. Each time, it traces back to my device with the CM10.x ROM. I work in the IT industry, so security is a big part of my daily routine. However, mistakes get made, being human and all. I know there are lots of network test abilities in CM that are great for testing vulnerabilities. But those tools, as I'm sure you know, can be used for nefarious purposes. And with Byod becoming more and more popular, I'd hate to see people or companies fall prey to these attacks (or tests gone awry?). I mean I know to secure my DNS servers, and vlan or segregate wifi networks. Anyway, thanks for the quick response!
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DNS logs initially, doing it old school. But then I tried DroidSheepGuard on the device for faster notifications. Also tried WiFi Protector. They both have their positives and negatives. But good ol' DNS logs and event viewers never fail me there. Each time, it traces back to my device with the CM10.x ROM. I work in the IT industry, so security is a big part of my daily routine. However, mistakes get made, being human and all. I know there are lots of network test abilities in CM that are great for testing vulnerabilities. But those tools, as I'm sure you know, can be used for nefarious purposes. And with Byod becoming more and more popular, I'd hate to see people or companies fall prey to these attacks (or tests gone awry?). I mean I know to secure my DNS servers, and vlan or segregate wifi networks. Anyway, thanks for the quick response!
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I can tell you that these probably dont mean anything. Do they happen on any of my builds?
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I can tell you that these probably dont mean anything. Do they happen on any of my builds?
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Well, the poisoning was bad enough to take down a test exchange 2007 sp2 server, though it was more of a redirection of packets than an actual crash. So, it does concern me. Unfortunately I did get a positive for poisoning when I was running your rootbox, (slick rom, loved it btw) but I later discovered I forgot to clear the DNS cache while running it. So I can't be 100% on whether it was from rootbox, or if it was just already poisoned with the vivid's wifi mac as the destination for the spoofed mac address. I can run another round of tests when I work slows down again.
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Well, the poisoning was bad enough to take down a test exchange 2007 sp2 server, though it was more of a redirection of packets than an actual crash. So, it does concern me. Unfortunately I did get a positive for poisoning when I was running your rootbox, (slick rom, loved it btw) but I later discovered I forgot to clear the DNS cache while running it. So I can't be 100% on whether it was from rootbox, or if it was just already poisoned with the vivid's wifi mac as the destination for the spoofed mac address. I can run another round of tests when I work slows down again.
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have you tried these roms stock to make sure no other apps were the culprit?
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have you tried these roms stock to make sure no other apps were the culprit?
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Indeed sir. As soon as I discovered the poisoning, full wipes and fresh OOB loads. Just need to rerun 2 tests I missed clearing my DNS cache for. I've also done a bit of reading, and apparently there is a security hole in JB that allows this ARP Spoofing/poisoning. From what I can tell, it looks like inadvertent poisoning, like a testing app is running a muck. More testing needed though. I was hoping someone might know the background services associated with the network testing features that come on CM builds. I would like to disable them and see how it goes in my next round of tests.
P.S. Cant wait to test other of yours as well. Rootbox would be killer for my daily driver, just need that mobile data. So if you have any newer builds with possible fixes that need testing, I'd love to give it a whirl. When I edited the APNs I was able to get the mobile data to connect for a moment, but it dropped almost immediately.
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Indeed sir. As soon as I discovered the poisoning, full wipes and fresh OOB loads. Just need to rerun 2 tests I missed clearing my DNS cache for. I've also done a bit of reading, and apparently there is a security hole in JB that allows this ARP Spoofing/poisoning. From what I can tell, it looks like inadvertent poisoning, like a testing app is running a muck. More testing needed though. I was hoping someone might know the background services associated with the network testing features that come on CM builds. I would like to disable them and see how it goes in my next round of tests.
P.S. Cant wait to test other of yours as well. Rootbox would be killer for my daily driver, just need that mobile data. So if you have any newer builds with possible fixes that need testing, I'd love to give it a whirl. When I edited the APNs I was able to get the mobile data to connect for a moment, but it dropped almost immediately.
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It was a pain just to get rootbox built... So fixing it will probably be even harder especially since right now I am not currently deving until I get my new computer
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Is anyone successing using the Kaiser with a Slingbox? I have the latest version of the SB Mobile software that is supposed to run on WM6 but it's very unstable and crashes constantly. I did determine that running Wisbar Advanced would make it crash every time it tried to connect, but shutting that down before starting the program only slightly improved it's stability. I generally can connect and watch video, but any menu options will crash it, as will trying to disconnect and connect again. The Slingbox folks are no help at all, they say the Tilt is not a supported phone (what the heck is WM6 support supposed to mean then??) I'm using the stock HTC ROM, nothing custom or fancy that should be causing problems.
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
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I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
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I did search the forum for any comments on sling player, but didn't find much more than a couple mentions of it, only person mentioning a problem was on a thread about the WIMP GPS tracking program. Not sure what you are referring to about a browser proxy issue, what browser?
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Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
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Aggh, I have been through so many stinking hard resets with this device so far, I just can't stand wasting yet another day trying to reinstall everything *again*. It just seems like every program I attempt to put on it causes something else to break. And I've tried very hard to only install stuff that is stated to work for WM6. But no matter, I have these constant issues all the time. If it's not crashes, it's email failing to check or alarms not going off, or the time not updating properly or whatever. It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
Wow, sorry it's been so agro. I can say that I have one of the first out Kaisers, running Sling Mobile and a slew of other progs, Wimp, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live, ContactsCM, PocketInformant, JournalBar, and my SlingBox has never hung. I've not hard reset yet and seldom soft reset. So I know that it can work, you need to start out with a fresh install and add 1 thing a time till you find the problem progs. One of them is messing with you, and unfortunately you've got to find it, one fricking app at a time.
Well, hard-resetting did make the SlingPlayer run flawlessly. I've been slowing adding stuff back on over the last day but have yet to run into whatever it was that was causing the problem. I was hoping it would be something obvious, so I could just restore from backup and not have to spend a lot of time on this, but of course, I couldn't be that lucky and have to put hours of work into it....
I tend to back up a lot as I add apps and test (I prefer SBP Backup), kinda like setting restore points in windows, just in case that last straw app trashes things. Seems the shell progs cause the most issues.
I generally do as well...in this case though the last app I installed *was* the Slingbox Player, so going back to earlier backups wouldn't necessarily save me any time.
I see, I always load Sling 1st then Core player and go from there.
My slingbox wasn't currently connected and running, so I hadn't bothered to download and load the mobile player yet. I don't even have it registered yet, as on my old phone, I never got a good enough connection to get much use out of it. It definitely flies on this phone though!
I'm beginning to wonder if it was simply the order of install that made the difference, as I have all but a couple things reinstalled and it still is working fine. Had one lock-up yesterday from trying to go to fullscreen and back again, but it's definitely far more stable than I was getting before.
I must say as well, this player really blows any other internet TV options out the window! The playback quality really is awesome and being able to watch my own favorite shows at any time is so cool. I never got a ton of use from the Slingbox in the past because a lot of times when I travel I just didn't have access to a good high-speed connection, I'm glad I will finally really be getting some good use out of it. Only problem is that I have the classic model that has these crappy mini-jack inputs with input only (no video pass-through) and I don't have enough outputs on my Tivo as a result to connect everything that I use at once. So I'm trying to decide if it's worth paying to upgrade to a new Slingbox or not. I would guess that the Slingbox Solo would also do a better job with all the HD stuff and correct the aspect a bit better (with the classic, the image is always a bit squished).
Well, haven't quite solved my Sling Player Mobile issues. It seems to work fine over 3G, but crashes every time if I try to connect over my home Wifi connection. Anyone else seeing this? I'd prefer to use the Wifi when available to not overuse the phone service too much (not sure if AT&T really is monitoring this, but no point in testing it if I don't have to!)
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It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts.
You may recall a few years ago when Microsoft went to a signed driver model. Lots of people complained about it, especially companies that produce hardware. But what did we get for it? Fewer crashes and resource conflicts caused by driver incompatabilities. If the mobile world would develop some standards in development and testing the problems you are seeing would become less frequent and easier to resolve.
Is Microsoft perfect? HA! Far from it. But make sure you are pointing the finger at the real culprit.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
Can I ask a question to you guys about what sort of frames per second you are getting. I am sitting here with my TYTN 2 getting about 8 FPS on Hsdpa full signal. Any thoughts on why the FPS might be so low?.
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Matt.
I have had a look about on the net and the seetings that seem to be the best are 65 bitrate ,full FPS, 30 iframe. I am now getting a good 24 FPS. I hope this helps someone.
Matt.
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email. Vanilla JUST about everything works as advertised. Does the Tilt have bugs ? Sure everything has bugs.
Using a password and coming out of suspend the back-light is DIM. Completely unreadable in sunlight. Not an OS issue as other WM6 devices didn't have this problem.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust. I think they have come along way since 2003, WM5, moving toward WM6. As for Palm there have been multiple version of their OS mostly geared toward PDA's.
Every OS has issues thats why we get new versions.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ? All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy. I am guessing here but I don't believe Microsoft will show up and fix it, nor will HTC. YOU get to fix it
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
I use it, and like it, so much so that if an app breaks Slingplayer I remove that app not Slingplayer. Others may feel the same way about a Wishbar or an SPB product. If an application is considered CORE that should go in first warts and all.
I installed Microsoft Live search with beta voice support. Cool app like Google maps. It locked up my device hard, twice, and I had to stylus reset to recover. Was it this beta or something else that didnt play nice? I removed the 'not ready for prime time' search application and all is well.
Any application that hooks API's and interrupts in an attempt to supplement and extend functionality is suspect.
That Tilt is a very complex little product. If you are striving to improve its functionality beyond what came in the box, it will be up to you to strike a balance as to what works for you.
Frustrating, at times....
Fun, it can be. I didn't spend hundreds of dollars to be eternally pissed off.
And when it stops being fun and or productive maybe a different OS or closed venue like the iPhone might be a better way to go.
These forums are here to help. We are trying to look for solutions to make these products as cool as they can be.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
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Wow, you must be some kind of magician to just come to that conclusion. I have had PPC devices that did NOT work as advertised out of the box. My last one never was able to properly connect with Wifi. I did a hard reset all the way back to nothing but the core apps and it still had problems. The manufacturer blamed it on my router (even though my laptop and Palm device previously had no issues) but I still went out and got another router...and still had problems.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email.
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Gee, aren't you lucky then. The fact that it works for you does not therefore mean it works for everyone else, particularly since there are many different types of email servers that it needs to connect properly to. With the HTC home app running and nothing else whatsoever installed on my Tilt, I had issues with it checking email.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust.
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Exactly...and from where I stand, they've not made as much progress in this area as they need to.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ?
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As you JUST said above, they have a responsibility to make the OS robust. If it was a matter of a single app causing a problem, that's one thing. But it's not, it's a problem with the Windows Mobile platform. How many times do you see on this forum people told they will need to hard-reset their device because of a problem? That's just absurd. If I had to reformat my desktop every time it started misbehaving because of something new I installed, I'd be up in arms!
All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy.
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This is just an absurd statement. I don't expect them to regression test every combination of apps on Windows XP, but I also expect if I install something it's not going to bring my entire system to a crashing halt. But even if it does, on those very rare occasions if you are using legitimate software, at least I have a system restore point to get my device back to a working state, or can boot into safe mode to remove the offending program, etc. Where is the similar type of functionality for Windows Mobile?? Oh, I have to get a 3rd party app like Sprite Backup for that kind of thing. Of course, I had issues with that crashing on me as well (only some of the backup options work).
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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So you've had issues with WM devices connecting via Wifi before? Does it work on someone else's Wifi network?
Which version of Slingplayer are you using? When you say it crashes, does it actually crash or just closes itself?
Also, the HTC Home plugin should have zero effect on checking email.
You can blame the software/hardware, but I don't think there are any other users having so many unique issues. Maybe WM isn't for you?
I need some input from serious developers, damageless, darch, gbhill, toast, etc. people who muck around in the real **** and have a deep understanding of the android operating system.
i have a hero that is no longer on the mobile network, and i want to turn it into a straight up PDA. i want to totally and completely remove anything that has to do with phone calls, mms, sms, and mobile network. ENTIRELY.
the only problem is that when i try to remove phone stuff from system/app, i get constant FC's until i nandroid restore.
how can i do this? anyone bored enough to try to help?
once again, i want to remove EVERY and ANYTHING that has to do with mobile networks and phone usage.
maybe wipe and just install debian? is this possible?
what can actually be DONE with this platform?
im looking for a discussion, some pointers of where to start learning, and some forward momentum on this.
thanks, guys.
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I need some input from serious developers, damageless, darch, gbhill, toast, etc. people who muck around in the real **** and have a deep understanding of the android operating system.
i have a hero that is no longer on the mobile network, and i want to turn it into a straight up PDA. i want to totally and completely remove anything that has to do with phone calls, mms, sms, and mobile network. ENTIRELY.
the only problem is that when i try to remove phone stuff from system/app, i get constant FC's until i nandroid restore.
how can i do this? anyone bored enough to try to help?
once again, i want to remove EVERY and ANYTHING that has to do with mobile networks and phone usage.
maybe wipe and just install debian? is this possible?
what can actually be DONE with this platform?
im looking for a discussion, some pointers of where to start learning, and some forward momentum on this.
thanks, guys.
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You can install Debian, but it would be a pain to use and you'd have horrible battery life.
It would be easier taking something already stripped down, and stripping it down further.
I've been delving into this, and I have something working with no phone mms nothing.
I'll release something like this based off of Darch's build. It'll have a few issues, but it won't have any radio access to Sprint; just wifi.
You will want to look into an AOSP rom.. Since alot of htc's stuff all relies on one another. Alot of stuff is worked into htcs framework.
An aosp rom would be a good choice. And maybe just set airplane mode on so it doesnt connect to the network at all. This could be a temporary thing until something better comes along.
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You can install Debian, but it would be a pain to use and you'd have horrible battery life.
It would be easier taking something already stripped down, and stripping it down further.
I've been delving into this, and I have something working with no phone mms nothing.
I'll release something like this based off of Darch's build. It'll have a few issues, but it won't have any radio access to Sprint; just wifi.
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exactly what i am looking for. i want to remove ALL radio/mobile network/phone dependencies. can you tell me how you did it?
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exactly what i am looking for. i want to remove ALL radio/mobile network/phone dependencies. can you tell me how you did it?
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Once I upload it .
It's not much work. Just taking out the correct .apk's to ensure stability. And then adjusting some settings so that the radio never even turns on.
why would you need to do that anyway?
Why use the phone functions of a phone, If you don't have any service?
I think it's a great idea, I went 3 months using my hero has a pda using airplane mode and an app from the market that let me untethered wifi from airplane mode. Must say battery life was short of amazing but with a rom built for the very purpose I can see even more potential.
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Once I upload it .
It's not much work. Just taking out the correct .apk's to ensure stability. And then adjusting some settings so that the radio never even turns on.
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as soon as i remove com.android.phone.apk i start with the constant and steady FC's. what is calling that apk?
Hi!
Somethig strange just happend... Grab my Samsung Galaxy Tab and noticed, that wifi was off... so i turned it on... it said scanning... and after 5 or 8 seconds wifi turned off by itself... tried again... turned off again...
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rebooting - no help...
what's going on??? help?
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ok, factory reset helped.... but i'm still wondering.... was it a virus... does anyone know sth about it??
The word "virus" isn't really applicable to Android devices. If used in VERY broad terms it almost applies, but even then it's a stretch.
There are programs that do malicious things out there, and the best thing you can do to avoid that is check the permissions on everything you download.
I doubt it would have been a virus. There are a lot of other explanations. But, for peace of mind, search the market for AVG and download the free version. Personally, I think it is more often than not a source of false positives, but as I said, it can provide some peace of mind as well
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Like...? Give me some ideas, please.
Well, I will say from the outset that I am not an expert at the technical details when it comes to such things. I would imagine that there was either some kind of corruption with the configuration files, or possibly with the OS itself. I have seen certain devices that occasionally reboot when power to WiFi is toggled on, for example. As to what caused it, there are really far too many possibilities to be able to say. I think that it would be difficult to get a virus from any of the app markets, most questionable stuff gets flagged. And of course you have the ability to see what these apps have access to. So perhaps it was an app that you allow network access to that screwed up the configuration through an error. Installing stuff that is non-market and of questionable repute could very well get you something malicious though.
Anyway, my original suggestion was going to be to try wiping all of the associated configurations and clearing the cache. But, you had already posted that you had it sorted out, so I didn't bother.
I am sure there are more informed people who could shed more precise light on the matter, these were just my ideas.
This does "just happen" sometimes. Usually, forgetting the connection information and re-entering it does the trick. If that doesn't then a hard reset (as you've already discovered) is the next best thing.
The technical term for what happened is "glitch".
At various points my Focus S seems to lose the ability to use it's data connection- either Wifi or 3G. I can't work out why- has anyone else experienced this? Web pages don't load, etc.
I installed a patch that allowed me to use Internet Sharing, I'm concerned this might have been the cause of it...
I've found that if I do not reboot my phone at least once a day I get random problems like that.
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At various points my Focus S seems to lose the ability to use it's data connection- either Wifi or 3G. I can't work out why- has anyone else experienced this? Web pages don't load, etc.
I installed a patch that allowed me to use Internet Sharing, I'm concerned this might have been the cause of it...
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I don't reboot my phone all that often. I've never seen it lose ALL data connection capability tho...
A regular power cycle doesn't hurt tho...
Can this be the issue?
I'm experiencing the same thing, but mainly when I'm connected to 3G. My phone shows it has full bars and 3G or 4G availability but I find 60% of the time my phone has little to no data going to my phone, so none of my apps or news feeds get updated or they get updated slowly. When I'm on wifi the phone works flawlessly.
I read this article,
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/hack-fixes-mms-on-unlocked-samsung-wp7-handsets
One of the odder quirks of Windows Phone 7 to appear since the platform's launch has been the absence of Automatic Data Configuration for users who swap SIM chips and network-hop with their unlocked handsets.
ADC should let the phone communicate with the network it's connected to in order to retrieve all the settings it needs in order to use the network's services. Samsung defended disabling ADC by saying that its phones are intended to only be used with a specific carrier
Now I know this is talking about MMS, but does anyone think it's related to 3G connectivity from a different service provider?
i am having the same problem, it started 2 days ago after i unlocked my phone, at&t gave me the unlock code, i had to enable hot spot & de brand by loading a file, i don't have problem with WiFi just 4G, it will be fixed if i re start the phone.
problem for me with wifi+3G
Not sure if this is the same as the OP. I run with both WiFi and 3G enabled most of the time. Basically everything will be working fine for a while, then I'll try to open a web page from Twitter and it will time out. Sometimes retrying will work, but it will take an abnormally long time to load the page. Other times it never works, and when I go to another app (e.g. mail) and try to sync, and that will also time out. When that happens I usually turn off either WiFi or 3G, then toggle the state of the one I left on (e.g. turn 3G off, then back on), and it clears up. I've never needed to reboot the phone. I don't have ICS enabled, but my phone is fully unlocked.
I've guessed this problem was caused by a lost or bad connection on one of the wireless protocols (like WiFi), where the phone thinks it is connected to WiFi and won't switch over to the other protocol (3G).
One more thing: I'm running 8107 and I don't remember this issue occurring before the upgrade.
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mlekas said:
Not sure if this is the same as the OP. I run with both WiFi and 3G enabled most of the time. Basically everything will be working fine for a while, then I'll try to open a web page from Twitter and it will time out. Sometimes retrying will work, but it will take an abnormally long time to load the page. Other times it never works, and when I go to another app (e.g. mail) and try to sync, and that will also time out. When that happens I usually turn off either WiFi or 3G, then toggle the state of the one I left on (e.g. turn 3G off, then back on), and it clears up. I've never needed to reboot the phone. I don't have ICS enabled, but my phone is fully unlocked.
I've guessed this problem was caused by a lost or bad connection on one of the wireless protocols (like WiFi), where the phone thinks it is connected to WiFi and won't switch over to the other protocol (3G).
One more thing: I'm running 8107 and I don't remember this issue occurring before the upgrade.
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I have the EXACT same issue as you state here. The problem has existed since day one with this phone. I updated through to 8107 and the issues still exist.
So now for some interesting/good news... my dad works for a large company that has direct access to AT&T Wireless Engineers, so he got in contact with an an engineer and explained this issue as both him and I experience the same issues. The engineer was able to get a hold of a Samsung Focus S and experienced the same problems for himself. He then escalated the issue directly to Samsung who in-turn escalated this to Microsoft. Apparently Microsoft claimed the issue was theirs and they are now working on an update to rectify the problem. Samsung also apparently has some updates that they were going to push but have since held off on pushing them until Microsoft has the fix for this data issue fixed.
I've been so frustrated by these issues and the lack of information regarding them that I thought you might be interested in knowing that Samsung, Microsoft, and AT&T ARE working to get the problem resolved.
Wow! This is really great news as I am having the exact same problem. I usually just on and back off Airplane mode and that fixes it, but its a real hassle. So, the word is that Samsung is, possibly, combining all the current issues like this data, the extra settings/quirky display, and the 8107/disappearing keyboard all in to one?
matt
The AT&T engineer didn't say what was going to be included in the Samsung update, just that Samsung was holding off on releasing the update until after Microsoft supplied a fix for the data issues. Hopefully Samsung's update fixes all of the Focus S quirks (data issues, delayed keyboard sounds, quirky display/auto brightness) in one shot.
Thanks for posting this, i feel better that Microsoft & Samsung are working on fixing this issue.
Any updates/news about this specific issue? I have the exact issue with my Focus S since I got my phone
I too have been having this issue and still haven't found a solution. I hope Samsung and Microsoft come up with a solution soon because it is very irritating.
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I too have been having this issue and still haven't found a solution. I hope Samsung and Microsoft come up with a solution soon because it is very irritating.
Keep this post updated
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Am I mistaken...but the majority of people posting in this thread, have the problem after installing something non standard?
8107 is not released by Samsung/AT&T, so the possibility that an associated file is not included, does exist.
Was the hotspot patch and official release, or was it intended for sideload or something?
I'm just curious. I had the luxary to have my Dell Venue Pro sent to Microsoft and examined by the Test and OEM team for WP. This was several months ago. They were able to determine I had used the force update trick to update my Device. From pieces of various emails, I was able determine the update included multiple files. The multiple files consisted of Device specific instructions and additional files needed for the that operator, in addition to the Update provided by MS.
If this is the case, forcing an update into place may indeed load the update, but it might not include other needed files.
Now, I'm not an expert, a dev or anything else important. I cannot validate that what I said is true. But, i do have the benefit of having my older device looked at by MS several months ago. This does not prove 2+2=4. But it does raise enough doubt in my mind that I won't be foruce updating my devices until alot more people get a look at this methodology and perhaps come up with some answers, or at least explanations.
Does the internet connection issue appear only after the forced 8107 update?
I had been using a Chevron-unlocked Samsung Focus S on the 7720 and had experienced no issues. Just updated to 8107 following Heathcliff74's method so I hope this issue doesn't start to plague me.
Also, has anyone had success with voluptuary's wifi internet connection sharing and interop-unlock method? I am hesitant to apply that hack exactly because of worries about issues with internet...
I'm a big chicken. I am just going to wait for AT&T to release the update. I just have this funny feeling that there's a little something extra included with the at&t update. I've done plenty of customizing over the years, but just have a feeling about this. I do wish they would step on it, though.
matt
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Extra as in something to block out interop unlocks (bad) or firmware updates (good)? Definitely hoping for a camera firmware upgrade.....
armodons said:
Extra as in something to block out interop unlocks (bad) or firmware updates (good)? Definitely hoping for to get a camera firmware upgrade.....
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when I said extra, I meant a focus s specific file that might act as a customization or configuration file. I don't think a block file of any sort might be included. But I do know that at&t is proprietary enough to want a unique identifier of some sort. In Gen 1, at&t had special builds just for them, turning on or off features. I know the hd7 had a specific 'config' type file, as did the venue pro. Would I call these extra files? No. I would call them required files. Build 8107 was a single build for WP. Do you think that all phones with mango had the same needs, samex files, same configs? Or is it possible that a related file acted as a config or control.
I'm not smart enough to know for sure. My gut says...maybe. .
Same Problem
Any news on this? I am having the same issue on my Focus S
gravitynoise said:
Any news on this? I am having the same issue on my Focus S
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We just need AT&T to release the update. That's all. Rumor is all comes with the Tango update.
matt
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I hope so. Thanks for the fast response
Ridiculous that Google has taken 3 months (and counting) to issue a fix or even acknowledge publicly that there is a problem with Jellybean devices connecting to many WPA2 Enterprise Wireless networks. This is going to hurt them badly with folks at Universities and companies. I've already had to steer many folks away from the Nexus 7 because of this problem that Google refuses to fix (or as I said even acknowledge it exists). http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=34212
Even the freakin' Kindle Fire which wasn't able to connect to WPA2 Enterprise Networks at launch was issued an update and was able to in a shorter time frame than it's taking Google to address this issue on our Nexus 7's (and all Jellybean devices).
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Ridiculous that Google has taken 3 months (and counting) to issue a fix or even acknowledge publicly that there is a problem with Jellybean devices connecting to many WPA2 Enterprise Wireless networks. This is going to hurt them badly with folks at Universities and companies. I've already had to steer many folks away from the Nexus 7 because of this problem that Google refuses to fix (or as I said even acknowledge it exists). http://code.google.com/p/android/is...s Owner Summary Stars&groupby=&sort=&id=34212
Even the freakin' Kindle Fire which wasn't able to connect to WPA2 Enterprise Networks at launch was issued an update and was able to in a shorter time frame than it's taking Google to address this issue on our Nexus 7's (and all Jellybean devices).
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I haven't been able to get on the 8021.x at work since moving to ICS on my phone, JB the same.. It tries, fails for no reason... At least on Gingerbread I could make it work, even if I had to use another app to configure it. ICS/JB seems to set it up properly from the get-go, but even if I tweak it to the exact same settings I had before, still doesn't work. Meh.
this issue is seriously driving me NUTS
If it's bothering you guys, click on the Star icon in that google link that was posted. That's how Google prioritizes bugs.
Still, unless it's something that's a security hole, they probably won't update until the next version.
There was a touchscreen bug in 2.1 in older devices that sucked up CPU time when you touched the screen so it effectively killed off use of the phone for most games. It wasn't fixed until 2.2 and a lot of phones were EOL'd at 2.1
Thank goodness for Cyanogen. If you want an update sooner, the custom rom way is the quickest...
We'll I'm runnin eos but its still wacked
My uni uses the wpa 2 enterprise but I am able to connect? Or shld I not be able to connect?
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Posts 221 and 222 in the OP's quoted link seem to say that the suggested temporary fix works.
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My uni uses the wpa 2 enterprise but I am able to connect? Or shld I not be able to connect?
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There are many 8021x configurations, consider yourself lucky your particular setup works.
peterk-1 said:
Posts 221 and 222 in the OP's quoted link seem to say that the suggested temporary fix works.
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Did not help me or some others in the thread but worth trying if you haven't.
Anyone try this with the 4.1.2 OTA? I did, and no luck. It didn't automatically configure correctly, and once corrected, it still wouldn't connect. Maybe it helped some folks in some other way though, as there were specific wpa_supplicant fixes in the OTA.
I haven't been able to connect to my wifi at work ever since i got my N7 and JB on my GN phone. Since updating to 4.1.2 on my N7 though I can now connect to my WPA wifi at work. FINALLY!
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I haven't been able to connect to my wifi at work ever since i got my N7 and JB on my GN phone. Since updating to 4.1.2 on my N7 though I can now connect to my WPA wifi at work. FINALLY!
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WPA? That should have always just worked. Maybe they fixed some obscure bug there.
802.1x, enterprise wireless, is the problem at question in this thread, but glad that 4.1.2 improved wifi for you anyway
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WPA? That should have always just worked. Maybe they fixed some obscure bug there.
802.1x, enterprise wireless, is the problem at question in this thread, but glad that 4.1.2 improved wifi for you anyway
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Whoops that's what i meant . It's working now. it's 802.1x with PEAP. Sorry for the confusion.