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Recently, I've been experiencing this annoying issue with Play Music streaming on the Chromecast. Track plays fine but when my N4's screen is off, it doesn't advance to the next track until I turn the screen on. Sometimes, there's a "Couldn't play the track you requested" error notification when I turn on the screen. This only happens when using the Play Music with the Chromecast. If I'm using my phone speakers or streaming via bluetooth in the car, the tracks advance just fine.
I've tried the following so far:
- Cleared data and cache for the Play Music app
- Hard reset the Chromecast
- Applied 8/16 Play Music update
- Wifi is set to Always on during sleep
Nexus 4 (stock 4.2.2), Franco kernel M3
Anyone else had this issue?
Try disabling the WiFi optimization in the advanced WiFi setting. That's should fix it.
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Try disabling the WiFi optimization in the advanced WiFi setting. That's should fix it.
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Thanks for the suggestion but no luck. I actually tried that shortly after my original post last night. Tried disabling optimization again a few mins ago but also flipped Wifi off/on afterward.. same issue.
I don't have any issues running AOSPA 3.97. Do you have issues with delayed notifications with your screen off? The whole thing sounds like the ARP issue that was fixed in JSS15J.
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travon802 said:
Thanks for the suggestion but no luck. I actually tried that shortly after my original post last night. Tried disabling optimization again a few mins ago but also flipped Wifi off/on afterward.. same issue.
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Crap that usually fixes any streaming while screen off issue I have.
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UPDATE: Issue appears to be fixed after upgrading from 4.2.2 to 4.3 JSS
My Nexus 7 is on 4.3 with wi-fi set to sleep unless plugged in. So of course when I am playing a long podcast while working out, wi-fi will drop. That in itself makes sense.
But I'm jut surprised that Google hasn't arranged for a more robust resumption protocol. With both YouTube and Netflix, if you "abandon" the Chromecast you can go back into the app on any device and take control again without stopping playback. On YouTube you can even pick up the TV Queue from any device without interruption.
With GP Music it's really lousy. Once my tablet has lost contact with Chromecast there is no way to take control from the GP Music app without halting playback. If I open GP Music and simply press the cast button without selecting a track, playback immediately halts and it loses my place in the podcast. And yes, confirming your experience here, it will not advance in a playlist after losing contact with the casting device. So the app does not send a playlist to Chromecast all at once - it must be advancing track by track manually. Not a good setup if you want to, say, cast a few hours worth of music at a party.
I did find though that the Remotecast app is capable of pausing and resuming the current track even after GP Music has lost contact with Chromecast. This is also useful for identifying the play position in case I want to pause and resume listening on my phone.
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My Nexus 7 is on 4.3 with wi-fi set to sleep unless plugged in. So of course when I am playing a long podcast while working out, wi-fi will drop. That in itself makes sense.
But I'm jut surprised that Google hasn't arranged for a more robust resumption protocol. With both YouTube and Netflix, if you "abandon" the Chromecast you can go back into the app on any device and take control again without stopping playback. On YouTube you can even pick up the TV Queue from any device without interruption.
With GP Music it's really lousy. Once my tablet has lost contact with Chromecast there is no way to take control from the GP Music app without halting playback. If I open GP Music and simply press the cast button without selecting a track, playback immediately halts and it loses my place in the podcast. And yes, confirming your experience here, it will not advance in a playlist after losing contact with the casting device. So the app does not send a playlist to Chromecast all at once - it must be advancing track by track manually. Not a good setup if you want to, say, cast a few hours worth of music at a party.
I did find though that the Remotecast app is capable of pausing and resuming the current track even after GP Music has lost contact with Chromecast. This is also useful for identifying the play position in case I want to pause and resume listening on my phone.
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There was a widespread issue in 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 with delayed notifications on the Nexus 4 (I'm not sure if it affected the Nexus 7). http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/SQH6JnIFYcQ[1-25-false]. Delayed notifications from lots of apps (Gmail, Email, etc.
That was basically the cause of the issue in my OP which was fixed in the 4.3 JSS15J build (not the earlier 4.3 JWR66Y build) for Nexus 4.
Interesting to know. Sorry if I have derailed your topic - what I am getting at here is more of a pervasive issue with GPMusic and Chromecast, in that it's not designed robustly enough to let CC run through a playlist on its own and allow devices to reconnect to it after interruption.
did you ever get this working? I have the same issue on my Note 3. Thanks
Has anyone else run into this? Last night I tried to cast some music from the music app, and the cast button would not appear. Now I've had some issues with this in the past that I could generally fix by rebooting the chromecast a few times, but last night nothing would work.
To be clear - the CC is on the network, and is specific to only some of my phone's apps:
I spent about an hour attempting to fix the problem and found that the cast button was missing for both google music and Pandora, but present for both Netflix and YouTube. I verified I could actually connect/cast in Netflix/YouTube just fine. I tried rebooting the Chromecast a half dozen times via both the Chromecast app on my phone, as well as manually by turning my AVR on and off. I rebooted my router. I used the Chromecast app to "restore to factory default" in the menu. I thought maybe it was the music app, so I rebooted my phone, cleared the cach on the music app, cleared data on the music app... Nothing. I finally gave up and watched 2 episodes of Breaking Bad, casting via Netflix.
Afterward, right before calling it a night, I checked one last time and sure as **** the icon had come back for music and Pandora.
I'm just wondering if anyone has seen this or knows how to force it to fix itself in the future. I've had this happen in the past where I just had to give up and wait and the next day I wouldn't have the problem... Google's online help offers nothing for this scenario, dealing only with the case where the CC can not connect to the network....
It's quite frustrating!
I had the same problem. Quick solution is to make sure the music app (play music/pandora/whatever) is completely closed, then launch the chromecast app. Send it to the background, and then launch the music app. Cast button will be there everytime.
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I had the same problem. Quick solution is to make sure the music app (play music/pandora/whatever) is completely closed, then launch the chromecast app. Send it to the background, and then launch the music app. Cast button will be there everytime.
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Thanks, I'll give that a try if it happens again. Though to be honest I have to think I tried that. I was force-closing music and Pandora repeatedly as well as repeatedly opening the CC app.
Just a bump that I"m still seeing this strange issue.
It occurred again last night - no cast icon for the audio apps - Google music and pandora (I forgot to try Songza). The apps w/ video (YouTube/VEVO/Netflix) all had the cast button. I have two Chromecasts on the network and tried with two devices (phone and tablet). Both devices had the same behavior and both chromecasts were present on the apps that had the cast button, so the chromecasts are correctly connected to the network, and it's not specific to the phone. I tried rebooting the router, both chromecasts, and my phone and couldn't resolve it.
Once again the fix was only to wait and an hour or so later the cast button returned to google music and Pandora.
So strange and completely frustrating. What's more frustrating is that I can't find an official support forum for help directly from Google. Tough to fix something when you can't ask the question to begin with. Though I did find a support phone number so I guess I could try that...
Interesting to see that this is such a long standing issue. Just had the exact same problem with the brand new lollipop version of play music, but it looks like the issue wasn't related to the recent update.
Incidentally, removing updates fixed the problem for me.
What brand of routers are you guys using? I have a buffalo, wonder if it's related.
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Appears to actually be related to the new play services update.
https://code.google.com/p/google-cast-sdk/issues/detail?id=314
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Yes. It works on my non-rooted chromecast. You need to have purchased a Plex pass subscription in order for it to work.
Movies & TV shows work well if they are burned to your computer & follow the correct naming scheme. Some Plex channels work & some don't. The only thing I haven't been able to stream to chromecast is pictures & slideshows. Otherwise, it has worked great.
What Plex channels worked for you? None of the ones I tried at random worked for me.
Overall it works fine for casting local content. The only issue is that the Plex app on my Android tablet disconnects from the Chromecast after a few minutes, and I have to reconnect it to get control back. I can reconnect without interrupting the video if I do it the right way. The Plex app doesn't disconnect from my Roku player, so it looks like the issue is on the Chromecast side.
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What Plex channels worked for you? None of the ones I tried at random worked for me.
Overall it works fine for casting local content. The only issue is that the Plex app on my Android tablet disconnects from the Chromecast after a few minutes, and I have to reconnect it to get control back. I can reconnect without interrupting the video if I do it the right way. The Plex app doesn't disconnect from my Roku player, so it looks like the issue is on the Chromecast side.
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There is a bug in the Plex Control protocol but it seems to be limited to the device that starts the stream as others seem to be able to jump onto the control and not have restart issues.
Try this and see if I'm correct there....
Next time you lose control, Force Kill the Plex App on your device, Then reload and select the CCast that is streaming.
You should resume control without seeing the Restart from scratch bug.
The loss of control may be CCast related but it may also be WiFi related. Any loss of connection on the device side (even switching bands) seems to disrupt the ability to control.
Plex Devs are aware there is an issue but right now all their CCast attention seems to be focused on the Transcoder and the Surround Sound Transcoding issue.
MediaBrowser will be adding Chromecast support soon.
www.mediabrowser3.com
MediaBrower Server can also act as a backend server for Plex
Asphyx said:
Next time you lose control, Force Kill the Plex App on your device, Then reload and select the CCast that is streaming.
You should resume control without seeing the Restart from scratch bug.
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I don't have to do anything that drastic. I can simply reconnect to the Chromecast and resume control of the current Plex stream without interrupting it as long as I don't change the selection. That's why it's not a big deal.
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I don't have to do anything that drastic. I can simply reconnect to the Chromecast and resume control of the current Plex stream without interrupting it as long as I don't change the selection. That's why it's not a big deal.
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So your not seeing the Loss of Control, Reconnect and Restart from beginning bug?
I wonder if they fixed that in a recent update...Could be...
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What Plex channels worked for you? None of the ones I tried at random worked for me.
Overall it works fine for casting local content. The only issue is that the Plex app on my Android tablet disconnects from the Chromecast after a few minutes, and I have to reconnect it to get control back. I can reconnect without interrupting the video if I do it the right way. The Plex app doesn't disconnect from my Roku player, so it looks like the issue is on the Chromecast side.
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I am able to get Nickjr, That Daily Show, and The Colbert Report channels working. However, many others don't work.
Sucks that if your internet goes down that you can't stream local plex content to a chromecast. I was sad when I observed that. Maybe that'll be fixed in the future.
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Huh, you're right about that, just tried it. With no internet connection the Chromecast won't connect to Plex over the LAN and instead gives the cheery error message "Oops, shouldn't be here." Along with that other delightful message "Brain freeze!" that you get when Pandora doesn't work, it really helps give the impression of a mature, well-designed, user-friendly product. I'm expecting to see "Shucks, we done screwed up." any time now.
The real player cloud app works well. No $$ needed. And you don't have to upload anything. It'll play smoothly regardless. I'm sorry I spent money on plex to find out that I still needed a subscription
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You don't need Plex pass, just the Plex for android app is enough. It's released about 10 days ago. It works like a charm for me.
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You don't need Plex pass, just the Plex for android app is enough. It's released about 10 days ago. It works like a charm for me.
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That's not true. You do need the $3.99/month Plex Pass. The paid Plex for Android app alone is not enough. Perhaps you are referring to the special developer version that was temporarily linked here in this forum before being removed. That was not an officially sanctioned release.
As said above, you need to be PlexPass member. PlexPass members have access to the development Android app which is no extra cost. On a side note, I thought they brought back the life subscription.
More on topic, I have used the Chromecast with Plex. It works fine for me. I don't recall if I tried on my LAN that has the PMS. I have used it work and worked well; I bring a TV, use my smartphone for internet access and router, and a tablet to control plex (phone doesn't get an local IP).
Towards channels that work, I've tried Revision3 and worked fine.
The only issue I have encountered is that the resume feature for movies/tv shows doesn't work. I get the load screen. The load screen disappears, but no movie plays. The tablet doesn't show the movie playing either. Basically, you have to restart the movie, and then jump to where you left off. I've seen this issue before with the Android app, which was eventually fixed.
I haven't tried music or pictures.
This is how I get around the problem of Plex for Android disconnecting from the Chromecast while playing a video:
1. The problem:
I start the stream on the Chromecast from Plex on my Android tablet. Initially I can control it from the tablet. A few minutes later I check the tablet screen again, and I see that Plex has disconnected from the Chromecast and the playback controls have disappeared. If I reconnect to the Chromecast, the controls do not come back. If I back up to the previous screen and hit Play again, the video restarts from the beginning.
2. The solution:
When I reconnected to the Chromecast, I should have noticed a small Plex notification icon appear in the notification area at the bottom of the screen. If I click on that, it shows me that the Chromecast is currently playing a video, and I can tap the entry to reconnect to that video stream. The controls come back without interrupting the Chromecast.
It only stays connected for a few minutes before it disconnects again, but at least I can regain control at any time with a few clicks. It's a bit of a strange quirk, because this doesn't happen when I play a video remotely on my Roku using Plex on the tablet to control it (and BTW there's no extra cost or requirement for Plex Pass to play from the Android app to the Roku).
This always works reliably when I am playing a single video. I have seen problems though when I have played multiple videos in a row. In that case when I reconnect to the Chromecast it may suddenly flip back to a previous video and restart at the beginning of that stream before it gives me the chance to select the current stream from the notification icon.
Slightly OT but newsworthy....
Plex has released a PlexPass preview of PMS (0.9.9.0) that is said to fix the Surround Sound Transcoding issues.
Back to the topic at hand...
I'm sure there is a bug in the Plex Control Protocol...
Just about everyone has seen the problem you describe. And I think it is in the Player App that gets loaded to the CCast which they probably haven't looked at recently. Too busy on the Transcoding and PlexWeb stuff.
Why it loses the connection in the first place may not be Plex related just something that is related to Normal WiFi connections that Plex needs to compensate for in their app.
I don't have any info to back up this notion but I am betting that whatever dev team they have working on the Player App for the CCast side is busy working on Music and Picture support (and it's playlist requirements) and what we are using now is just a down and dirty Video Player since that is the Primary Media people stream from Plex and there are so many other options for playing Music available already (Like Google Music app)
Music will on it's own require an expansion and fleshing out of the Control protocol to enable things like Repeat, Shuffle, FF and REW as well as solving the problem of the CCast sending a signal to play next file in the Playlist. That should also solve the issue some are having with multipart videos not playing properly as well.
Works for me. You have to purchase a full subscription in order for it to work. Also make sure when you open the browser you refresh it after you turn or or wake your computer. Chromecast doesn't need to be rooted.
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I pointed the Plex PC application to the folder on my hard drive where my local media content is stored and was subsequently able to use the plex android app to play these items on my chromecast but my question is how do I make sure that the chromecast is playing these media files via the local LAN and not using the internet to do it? i.e. I want to make sure its not using my internet cap space to stream when Ive already downloaded the files and have them on my PC.
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I pointed the Plex PC application to the folder on my hard drive where my local media content is stored and was subsequently able to use the plex android app to play these items on my chromecast but my question is how do I make sure that the chromecast is playing these media files via the local LAN and not using the internet to do it? i.e. I want to make sure its not using my internet cap space to stream when Ive already downloaded the files and have them on my PC.
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Try disconnecting your Internet connection while the video is playing then wait a while (at least a minute or two). If continues to play without Internet connection you can rest assured, it's not proxying the media through an external server.
If you disconnect before Plex launches on the Chromecast it may not launch because Chromecast won't be able to look at the Google whitelist.
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Try disconnecting your Internet connection while the video is playing then wait a while (at least a minute or two). If continues to play without Internet connection you can rest assured, it's not proxying the media through an external server.
If you disconnect before Plex launches on the Chromecast it may not launch because Chromecast won't be able to look at the Google whitelist.
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I'm a newbie in all of this and curious to learn... Why is this necessary? When I'm home, my smartphone is connected to my home network via wifi. Couldn't he just make sure his smartphone is connected to his home network via wifi? If he disconnects, he will no longer be able to browse his collection on the PC and will have to reconnect to select a different movie, correct?
I have looked around but haven't seen anyone talking about this issue so apologize if I missed something.
I am trying to play movies that I have on my phone. They are in the .MP4 format. I currently have tried Avia, LocalCast and AllCast (though I have not purchased the full version yet). I can start watching a video and it will play great and look great. Inevitably though it will start acting like it is buffering and then it will quite working at all. On top of this, the controls on my phone (HTC One rooted) will disappear. For instance, Avia controls will be in my status bar when I first start the movie but will soon disappear giving me no control over what is playing.
At first I thought it might be Greenify doing something but I don't have them greenified. I have tried a few different things to fix this issue but it just won't go away. Could this be a problem with the Chromecast or my phone or is there just something I am not doing correctly. I don't want to use plex or anything I have to upload and then stream from.
Appreciate the help.
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I have looked around but haven't seen anyone talking about this issue so apologize if I missed something.
I am trying to play movies that I have on my phone. They are in the .MP4 format. I currently have tried Avia, LocalCast and AllCast (though I have not purchased the full version yet). I can start watching a video and it will play great and look great. Inevitably though it will start acting like it is buffering and then it will quite working at all. On top of this, the controls on my phone (HTC One rooted) will disappear. For instance, Avia controls will be in my status bar when I first start the movie but will soon disappear giving me no control over what is playing.
At first I thought it might be Greenify doing something but I don't have them greenified. I have tried a few different things to fix this issue but it just won't go away. Could this be a problem with the Chromecast or my phone or is there just something I am not doing correctly. I don't want to use plex or anything I have to upload and then stream from.
Appreciate the help.
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Almost sounds like your network is encountering a loop, traffic storm, or increasing packet retries.
If your router has an STP (Spanning Tree Protocol) option, try toggling that.
Also try disabling WiFi Sleep in your phone (keeps WiFi connected even when phone goes to sleep).
It could also be his device is running out of steam (overheating and therefore the OS throttles the Clock down especially true when heavy radio use like constant WiFi causes excessive heat in the unit), Starts doing some Background tasks that take priority or is generally going into a lower power state after awhile of no activity.
People need to understand while it may seem convenient to stream files off your phone or tablet they are not built for such activities.
They are meant as media consumers and not much more than that.
Too much going on inside them and Manufacturers put an extreme emphasis on saving power in all of their drivers that makes the devices just not suited to doing a long duration activity without user interaction.
Between the screen going off, WiFi going to sleep, Unit going into deep sleep mode and constant monopolizing of the Network and radios when the Device has a Pull task scheduled like getting Email....It is really not the ideal device to stream media from.
Since most media servers available today support remote (Home Cloud) streaming to a variety of devices and can transcode on the fly there is no longer any reason to store media on your device unless you have no network access at all. And in those cases the CCast won't work anyway because it needs to be able to load the player apps from the internet. Many of those same media servers also support some sort of local sync so you can store and play media locally on that mobile device when network is not available.
We need to start changing the way we think about storing and using media for Mobile...
Thanks for the advice and I will keep exploring. I have WiFi sleep disabled already.
It very well might be the device. I tried using my Touchpad and it didn't seem to run into any problems although I haven't used it enough to be sure it wasn't going to run into the same issues.
What is happening just seems like odd behavior. Like I don't understand why Avia would lose the player controls in my status bar after such a short time.
Maybe I need to think about a media server instead. Though one of the things that made me interested in the Chromecast was the portability of playing movies on large screens.
Again thanks for the response and if anyone else has any idea, I would love to hear it.
you could try y2cast from google play store, it is easy to use.
I'm getting a similar issue when try to cast Pandora. It runs fine on the tablet but won't run on the chromecast, seems like it tries but doesn't make it.
Sup guys. I was wondering if anybody noticed that some of the recent updates changed the Netflix casting in a bad way in my op.
Before I use to be able to press the cast button and choose one of my chromcasts. Then play something. Then I could press the cast button and choose "this device" and play some thing on my phone and it would still play whatever I chose on the Chromecast. If I wanted to change what was playing on the Chromecast I would just press the cast button and change it. Then press the cast button and go back to my phone. Now if I cast something to the chromcast and then switch to my phone it starts playing on my phone and shuts off the Chromecast. This is a step backwards in my op. And I hate it. Now I need a separate device to control each of my two chromecasts. Anybody else notice this and know which version it changed in?
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Sup guys. I was wondering if anybody noticed that some of the recent updates changed the Netflix casting in a bad way in my op.
Before I use to be able to press the cast button and choose one of my chromcasts. Then play something. Then I could press the cast button and choose "this device" and play some thing on my phone and it would still play whatever I chose on the Chromecast. If I wanted to change what was playing on the Chromecast I would just press the cast button and change it. Then press the cast button and go back to my phone. Now if I cast something to the chromcast and then switch to my phone it starts playing on my phone and shuts off the Chromecast. This is a step backwards in my op. And I hate it. Now I need a separate device to control each of my two chromecasts. Anybody else notice this and know which version it changed in?
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Sounds like the correct expected behaviour... It was always this way for me... if I say "Play on this device", then I would mean "Play on this device" and not "Play on this device and the Chromecast at the same time"... or do you disagree?
I 2nd that last post. You probably had a buggy version. Or your phone was losing connection with chromecast. You can try killing netflix, turning WiFi off or rebooting your phone.
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Sounds like the correct expected behaviour... It was always this way for me... if I say "Play on this device", then I would mean "Play on this device" and not "Play on this device and the Chromecast at the same time"... or do you disagree?
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No your misunderstanding.
Old app:
Open Netflix
Press cast,choose Chromecast one
Pick something to play for my son on tv1. Good.
Press cast,choose Chromecast 2
Pick something to see play for my wife on tv2. Good
Press cast,choose this device.
Watch something on my phone.
New app
Open Netflix
Press cast,choose Chromecast one
Pick something on tv1.
Good
Press cast, choose Chromecast 2.
Whatever was playing on Chromecast one switches to chromcast 2.
Done
Now u need a device for every Chromecast. No?
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r.storm85 said:
No your misunderstanding.
Old app:
Open Netflix
Press cast,choose Chromecast one
Pick something to play for my son on tv1. Good.
Press cast,choose Chromecast 2
Pick something to see play for my wife on tv2. Good
Press cast,choose this device.
Watch something on my phone.
New app
Open Netflix
Press cast,choose Chromecast one
Pick something on tv1.
Good
Press cast, choose Chromecast 2.
Whatever was playing on Chromecast one switches to chromcast 2.
Done
Now u need a device for every Chromecast. No?
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I understood you in the first time itself... but you should realize that the Netflix app is supposed to double as a Chromecast remote when it is casting... in your scenario you are expecting that the Netflix app should just disconnect itself from the entire process once casting has begun... so that you are free to do other stuff, including sending other casts... you will see the same behaviour with other apps like Youtube too... so it is not like Netflix is doing something different... and yes, it does mean, you need one device per Chromecast, if you want to be using both of them at the same time... I think the intention of this functionality was more like this:
Single guy comes home, fixes a drink and sits on his couch, turns on living room TV, opens the Netflix app on his mobile phone and starts casting Breaking Bad S05E07 to "Living Room TV"
He needs to go badly to the loo after the burrito he had on the way... so he walks towards the WC and on the way opens the Netflix app on his mobile phone and selects to play on "This device"... the show continues where he left from while he happily relieves himself...
Once he is done, he pauses the show on his mobile, cleans up, pulls up his pants, leaves for the bedroom, and switches on the bedroom TV... by this time, the living room TV has powered off because it was idle for so long (always a good idea)... he kicks of his shoes, gets on the bed and opens the Netflix app on his mobile phone and starts casting to "Bedroom TV"... and it all continues like the show never stopped...
Does this scenario explain how the app was supposed to work with multiple Chromecasts?
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I understood you in the first time itself... but you should realize that the Netflix app is supposed to double as a Chromecast remote when it is casting... in your scenario you are expecting that the Netflix app should just disconnect itself from the entire process once casting has begun... so that you are free to do other stuff, including sending other casts... you will see the same behaviour with other apps like Youtube too... so it is not like Netflix is doing something different... and yes, it does mean, you need one device per Chromecast, if you want to be using both of them at the same time... I think the intention of this functionality was more like this:
Single guy comes home, fixes a drink and sits on his couch, turns on living room TV, opens the Netflix app on his mobile phone and starts casting Breaking Bad S05E07 to "Living Room TV"
He needs to go badly to the loo after the burrito he had on the way... so he walks towards the WC and on the way opens the Netflix app on his mobile phone and selects to play on "This device"... the show continues where he left from while he happily relieves himself...
Once he is done, he pauses the show on his mobile, cleans up, pulls up his pants, leaves for the bedroom, and switches on the bedroom TV... by this time, the living room TV has powered off because it was idle for so long (always a good idea)... he kicks of his shoes, gets on the bed and opens the Netflix app on his mobile phone and starts casting to "Bedroom TV"... and it all continues like the show never stopped...
Does this scenario explain how the app was supposed to work with multiple Chromecasts?
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Yes I understand that concept. Which in the old app it wouldn't switch automatically. But I think this is a downgrade and all cast apps should be like this. I mean how bad do you have to watch TV while walking all through your house? Who does that? Lol.
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Old app:
Open Netflix
Press cast,choose Chromecast one
Pick something to play for my son on tv1. Good.
Press cast,choose Chromecast 2
Pick something to see play for my wife on tv2. Good
Press cast,choose this device.
Watch something on my phone.
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In this scenario, what happens if you want to pause, stop, rewind, or seek on tv1? What about tv2? Did your chromecast somehow let you control both of the tvs from one phone once the shows had started?
gianptune said:
In this scenario, what happens if you want to pause, stop, rewind, or seek on tv1? What about tv2? Did your chromecast somehow let you control both of the tvs from one phone once the shows had started?
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Actually the remote functionality should not be required for a stream to continue playing....The two CCasts should continue to play regardless of what the device that started the stream does. (pressing stop being the exception.)
So the way the old app worked was correct.
I would contact Netflix and explain your problem to them....Lots of people have had issues with Netflix recently which says to me they did some major work to the App....Probably due to all their fights with ISPs on Net Neutrality.
r.storm85 said:
Yes I understand that concept. Which in the old app it wouldn't switch automatically. But I think this is a downgrade and all cast apps should be like this. I mean how bad do you have to watch TV while walking all through your house? Who does that? Lol.
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LOL I resemble that remark.
I can be watching something on the TV in the living room, but then it's bedtime and I take my kiddo into the bedroom and then have to switch the movie over to my phone since my kid wants to watch their bedtime TV. One kiddo is sound asleep, I move the playback to the bedroom TV and continue watching.
Seems there are two models in conflict:
Play on ____
This model is content-centric. You choose content from the client device and choose where to play it.
The content state (playback position) can transfer to whatever device is chosen to play it without needing to remember it somewhere in the cloud or account as it is taken from the current playback device.
This model does not allow a single client device to cast to multiple players from the same app, as connecting to a different player will move the content onto that player.
Connect to ___ / Control ____
This model is player-centric. You choose a player to control from the client device, then you direct it to content.
A single client device can send different content to different players.
Multiple clients can "peek into" and control a specific player.
The second model allows more flexibility but IMO it can also be confusing to the operator since disconnecting from a player doesn't stop the player, when the client device is already playing a title and the player it's trying to connect to is also playing a title, not sure what to do - does the client's title move to the player, or does the client's title get suspended (and remembered somewhere) until disconnected.
gianptune said:
In this scenario, what happens if you want to pause, stop, rewind, or seek on tv1? What about tv2? Did your chromecast somehow let you control both of the tvs from one phone once the shows had started?
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Yes if I was watching on my device and I want to change tv1 or 2 I press pause. Then press cast, select the TV I want and I can change seek stop..whatever I want. Then press cast go back to my device and press play..as it would still be paused.
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Tough call, depends on how you use your devices to know what's going to be most convenient
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tsew2674 said:
Tough call, depends on how you use your devices to know what's going to be most convenient
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Ya. The thing that sucks is they changed it. Would be fine if it only worked one way. Wouldn't know the difference. But its like they took a feature away.
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Looks like they're conforming the behavior across apps so things are easier to explain and support.
I might still be able to achieve your desired behavior if you start a stream then kill the Netflix app and run it again. But once you connect to a device that is already playing you're "attached" to that content again.
I found the old apk if anybody wants to try it