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Sony Xperia ZR(C5502/3)
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Specs:
Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean)
1.5 GHz Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ S4 Pro APQ8064 Quad Core
Adreno 320 graphics
RAM: 2GB
4.55" 720p display
IP55/58 certified dust proof and water resistant up to 1.5 meters
13MP Exmor RS camera
HDR for picture and video
8GB internal storage and microSD memory card
Co-moulded aluminium frame
Aluminium power button
Transparent Illumination Bar
Weight : 138 grams
Talk time (up to): 13 hours(3G)
Standby time (up to): 520 hours(3G)
RRP : €500 (Netherlands,Russia,Hong Kong)
500~560$ (Thailand,Taiwan)
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Specs Comparison
User Reviews
Thanks to @sealane
sealane said:
Hey people, like others I've been searching the net, and not getting any reviews,
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sealane said:
Here's a quick review :
Build quality : is pretty damn good,
Display is what you expect any Sony phone to be, Video viewing was simply amazing, good colour and equally good contrast.
Sound while playing music and videos, was pretty crisp, and clear, not too loud, and no jarring.
Camera, just a couple f shots, and I would say, its pretty good, but not top notch, maybe a shade lower than s4 and i5 but that maybe because of the screen resolutions of the other phones in comparison.
I inserted 32 GB sd card, and have been using 3g , connectivity is competent, call clarity is acceptable, nothing to write home about, but don't get me wrong I am not complaining.
Phone works like a breeze, with the processor and RAM, combination, have a pleasant experience, played Subway surfer, for some time, graphics, and stuff looks very decent, and smoothness make me realize what I've been missing. Now I know what project butter is all about. :laugh:
A dedicated camera button, is a nice little add-on bonus, it focuses and shoots, it also wakes up camera, (of course)
BATTERY : I have not completed a day, but in 3 hours of use lost almost 29 % of the battery which includes quite a lot of fiddling with the phone, so I think , on a regular day I would not have a problem of running out of juice. but still with smartphones, U never know what to expect. I think this battery should be something between s2 and s3 ( the phones that I previously owned) i did a quick comparison with my old s3, and i am happy about the size, more happy about the smoothness, Not sure about the battery, I think s3 wins this one.
I hope this answers some of the curiosity, for now, please feel free to ask questions, not too much of a Phone expert, will do my best.
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djpeesh said:
Day 1 of the xperia zr
Mixed opinions about the phone. I've come from a Motorola RAZR maxx so I've been spoilt rotten by the big battery.
The good first:
The screen is amazing. Simply marvelous to look at and the colors are epic. The camera is fantastic and the phone is such a breath of fresh air from the slow processor on the RAZR.
The waterproofing works as advertised. Dunked it in some water and it worked even with wet fingers. So that's a good thing.
The not so good now. The battery is not the greatest. Down to 42% with just about an hour of screen on, a hour of bluetooth on and about 45 mins of talking.
Not the greatest. But I'll have to buy a fewer extra chargers and get with the program.
Attached screenshots to make this completely legit.
Also, gps and 3g on throughout.
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Day 2:
Weekend so no real reason to kill the battery.
Played a few songs off sound cloud, made a few phone calls, connected to my cars bluetooth and did a bit of Internet surfing
Here's how the battery did and what were the major battery eaters
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djpeesh said:
Here's are the pix of the box, the headphones and not much else
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djpeesh said:
Battery life has gotten noticeably better. I have reduced the number of apps and set the screen brightness on auto.
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@djpeesh Final Review
djpeesh said:
So it's been three weeks with this phone. Here are my thoughts:
1. The water resistance is amazing. Played around with it at my local pool and the results are stellar. Works as advertised and the camera is excellent under water. More about the camera later.
2. The phone is exceptionally fast. The 2gigs of ram and the quad core processor mean that there is absolutely no hanging. The phone zips along and doesn't stutter even when you change the orientation of the screen. It's snappy and gets the job done quickly.
3. I've already got it rooted. Thanks to @DooMLoRD.
4. Most bloatware is easily removed and doesn't piss me off anymore.
5. The camera is exceptional. Really. It's the best phone camera I've used. Pictures come out nicely and there's minimal noise. The only hitch is night shots which have quite a bit of noise and are a little grainy.
6. The battery, especially with the stamina mode on is ok. I get a full day of work done before it dies and I fiddle around quite a bit including pairing it to stream music on my hour long commute twice a day. It dies by 7pm on a heavy use day. Yes, it isn't the RAZR maxx but I can live with it. Without stamina I find my phone dying pretty much by about 3 pm after unplugging it at 5 am.
7. I haven't faced any network connectivity issues and the sound being low is a feature that's been talked about a lot but it only happens after I take it into the pool and only for about ten minutes.
8. The removable battery also means that this is a phone that I can keep for a while. The battery is already listed as an accessory on the Sony website so it should be possible to have two batteries that I can swap out when I absolutely need more juice.
9. If you turn data off and use it just for calls, sms and as a music player and a camera, the battery lasts about 3 days. I just got back from holiday where there was no data reception. I used the phone for about 20 mins of calls a day, about 30 mins of music and about 30 pictures a day. Lasted for two and a half days before needing a charge. Of course, as soon as I got home and turned on data, the battery started dropping.
10. I would rate it on par with the s4 that my buddy has (without the gimmicks of course). The plastic back also means that it is less susceptible to the glass at the back breaking like has been reported by those who have the xperia z, including a buddy who now regrets not holding out for the zr
All in all, the phone has been one of my best purchases in a long long time and I would definitely recommend it to anyone on the fence even over the xperia z and the s4.
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Root now available! (Thx To @DooMLoRD)
DooMLoRD said:
DooMLoRD Easy Rooting Toolkit v16 released!
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DooMLoRD said:
now supports:
Xperia ZR [C5502/3] (10.1.1.A.1.310)
download link is at my thread!
please test it out and let me know!
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Expensive is better
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ZR is better. If u have more amount means go for ZR. SP is a midrange smartphone. Budgeted phone... ZR will be great. But expensive
某龙兄 said:
Expensive is better
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rajeevxperia said:
ZR is better. If u have more amount means go for ZR. SP is a midrange smartphone. Budgeted phone... ZR will be great. But expensive
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Thx guys
I dont have a huge budget but enough for this devices
More SP users what do u think bros
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E!ch0 said:
Thx guys
I dont have a huge budget but enough for this devices
More SP users what do u think bros
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No doubt the ZR. You should be asking yourself if you really need that 2 extra cores and water proofing, at the cost of battery life. The Xperia SP beats last year flagships easily, so it really isn't that weak.
E!ch0 said:
Thx guys
I dont have a huge budget but enough for this devices
More SP users what do u think bros
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Its depends on you bro. I think ZR will be around 31000 or 30500 Rupees. You have to spend extra 6000 more for ZR by comparing SP. If u have that much amount means no doubt... Go for ZR... Other wise SP..
And for ZR the Front Camera is VGA. And the battery will be more drain comparing with SP...
I would go for the sp if you dont care about the waterproof.
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IE-coRe said:
I would go for the sp if you dont care about the waterproof.
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Thats cool. SP is a budgeted smart phone. While ZR will burn ur pocket
jasonwsc said:
No doubt the ZR. You should be asking yourself if you really need that 2 extra cores and water proofing, at the cost of battery life. The Xperia SP beats last year flagships easily, so it really isn't that weak.
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Haha yep im a heavy user bro im using the phone more than my pc
So what do think go for the ZR?
rajeevxperia said:
Its depends on you bro. I think ZR will be around 31000 or 30500 Rupees. You have to spend extra 6000 more for ZR by comparing SP. If u have that much amount means no doubt... Go for ZR... Other wise SP..
And for ZR the Front Camera is VGA. And the battery will be more drain comparing with SP...
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Thx for helping man
N yea i have a budget around 600USD so it's not a problem to get one of them
So if i will get the ZR he will give a better results n performance?
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I would go for the sp if you dont care about the waterproof.
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Waterproof he's nice but it's not the main thing i care of bro
I care more of the design n the performance that's what really matter
But if we thinking about that, it will be nice if the device heatup we can just wash him n cool him off
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E!ch0 said:
Haha yep im a heavy user bro im using the phone more than my pc
So what do think go for the ZR?
Thx for helping man
N yea i have a budget around 600USD so it's not a problem to get one of them
So if i will get the ZR he will give a better results n performance?
Waterproof he's nice but it's not the main thing i care of bro
I care more of the design n the performance that's what really matter
But if we thinking about that, it will be nice if the device heatup we can just wash him n cool him off
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Sure Bro..ZR will give you a superb performance. Its a cool device. I dont have that much amount. Thats y i bought SP. Otherwise sure i will go for ZR. ZR will be a sensational phone... No doubt .... If u dont care about the Quality of the Front Cam
Rather than ZR why not ZL?
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E!ch0 said:
Hi guys how r ya
So it's already a 2 years im using the XNeo V n suffering from a shi**
Phone n lag so i think it's the time
To move on..
So i was on my way to get this beast the SP, but then i've nodes sony release a new device the ZR..
So those already have the SP what do u think guys wait a little bit for the ZR or get now the SP??
Cuz im really sick of this device he's drive me crazy
Thx n regardz
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>> Get Xperia ZR
because of all specification it has + IP58
it has more battery too
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darth5zaft said:
Rather than ZR why not ZL?
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Nah the ZL is 2big for me bro..
This device r perfect the size specifics n plus the water resistant
Thing is cool
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>> Get Xperia ZR
because of all specification it has + IP58
it has more battery too
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Yea decided 2go for him hope he will has no issues
Thx for the comments bros u gave me a huge help n i will get the zr when he's gonna be launched n see how he's perform
Thx E!ch0
I would go the SP.
ZR being a Quad core will consume more battery.
I am a ZL owner.
It has a 1080p display, quad core etc, you end up charging it at the end of day.
With SP its the same battery size as ZL but 720p display, dual core.
If you are not specs hungry, I'd say go for the SP.
There will be a negligible difference in performance but a noticeable different in battery life.
If the price difference is small, then ZR.
The question is how much more is it worth being waterproof, 1GB extra RAM, 2 extra cores (still the same old CPU as in Nexus 4).
Now, if Sony would put a Snapdragon 600 on ZR, keep the resolution 720p, put a high quality IPS display, then this phone would be a star. I guess that would also cast a shadow on Z...
Bottom line is ZR is in a different price group, so SP remains the best performing phone in this price range among the large manufacturers.
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I would go the SP.
ZR being a Quad core will consume more battery.
I am a ZL owner.
It has a 1080p display, quad core etc, you end up charging it at the end of day.
With SP its the same battery size as ZL but 720p display, dual core.
If you are not specs hungry, I'd say go for the SP.
There will be a negligible difference in performance but a noticeable different in battery life.
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Im a heavy user bro
I dont think the dual core n the 1gb of ram will be enough for me..
Anyway i have budget for them both
Thx for yur replay bro u bring a good point
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If the price difference is small, then ZR.
The question is how much more is it worth being waterproof, 1GB extra RAM, 2 extra cores (still the same old CPU as in Nexus 4).
Now, if Sony would put a Snapdragon 600 on ZR, keep the resolution 720p, put a high quality IPS display, then this phone would be a star. I guess that would also cast a shadow on Z...
Bottom line is ZR is in a different price group, so SP remains the best performing phone in this price range among the large manufacturers.
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For few more bucks i think the ZR will give much more then the SP
N the s600 n the s4 pro give pretty
Same results, and dont forget man im upgrading from a neo v(fuc*** piece of shi*) so i think it's going to be a big changing..
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if you use your phone more than your computer, you definitely want a good battery life, go with SP
Dual and Quad core not so big difference, but the 1 vs 2 gb of Ram might depending upon how many apps you have opened at the same time
Also, for the price you can get 2 SPs for the price of one ZR.
Got my zr, delivered, last evening, so far so good, battery is removable, thank god for that, sound, speed, looks, 1st impressions are great, have ditched my s3 for this one as this one's smaller than s3, and has more ram, hope I'm right.
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ahgahg said:
if you use your phone more than your computer, you definitely want a good battery life, go with SP
Dual and Quad core not so big difference, but the 1 vs 2 gb of Ram might depending upon how many apps you have opened at the same time
Also, for the price you can get 2 SPs for the price of one ZR.
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Got my zr, delivered, last evening, so far so good, battery is removable, thank god for that, sound, speed, looks, 1st impressions are great, have ditched my s3 for this one as this one's smaller than s3, and has more ram, hope I'm right.
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Good for u bro,
Haha i think u r the first person r got
It on XDA
Yep finally a removable back n battery, lets hope he dont has any
Bugs..
Thx man for commenting here, it always very nice to hear a user opinion
Ps.
It will be very nice of u to give a full
Review on him in the next couple of days.., it's will help to many ppl here
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Hello xda members.
It's time for me to change my xperia U. I was thinking to buy xperia T or xperia SP.
Which device do you think it's better? Xperia sp has adreno 320 and 1,7 ghz dual core s4 pro.
Is xperia t a good device? Everything works fine on jb?
Thank you
DaRk-L0rD said:
Hello xda members.
It's time for me to change my xperia U. I was thinking to buy xperia T or xperia SP.
Which device do you think it's better? Xperia sp has adreno 320 and 1,7 ghz dual core s4 pro.
Is xperia t a good device? Everything works fine on jb?
Thank you
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Here is the difference between Xperia TX and Xperia SP
Xperia T - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Xperia SP
(1. No LTE) ( 1. Has LTE)
(2.Bravia Engine 1) (2.Bravia Engine 2)
(3. Internal Memory 16 GB) (3. Internal Memory 8 GB)
(4.Bluetooth 3.1) (4. Bluetooth 4.0)
(5.Camera 13 MP) (5. Camera 8 MP)
Definitely SP's performance is better cuz it has more powerful processor and better GPU and higher Battery. So if you are gamer choose SP. But if want to take good picture and also gaming choose Xperia T.
I'm using Xperia TX,(same as Xperia T) It's very stylish and good looking rather then SP. But Xperia TX also has a removable battery but T and SP not, so that's a good plus point. So if considered overall Xperia TX is the winner.
I played many HD games in my TX and all of them are ran very smoothly. So i'm happy with my Xperia TX. So my opinion is performance wise SP is better. But overall Xperia TX is best. Still choice is yours :cyclops:
I hope you will find ur desired mobile :good:
@irfan_omi22 Thanks mate
I don't care about BE as it can be ported. The only thing i worry about is the performance. SP costs 100 euros more and don't want to spend all this money, that's why i asked if the T's performance is good enough. As about games the only game i play is NFS and some fps. Ok, i think the best choice is T.
Just a note, I've seen that the adreno 320 devices have higher resolution textures in high-end games compared to the T/V.
Tapatalked from my Xperia V
SP has a way bigger battery, xperia t will get you through the day if you're a medium user but not if you're a heavy user. So, if battery is important to you I think you should go for the SP. Also I like the aluminium design of the SP. I wish I could trade my T for a SP.
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SP has a way bigger battery, xperia t will get you through the day if you're a medium user but not if you're a heavy user. So, if battery is important to you I think you should go for the SP. Also I like the aluminium design of the SP. I wish I could trade my T for a SP.
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Small correction there: The T would get you through a day with heavy usage and about 2 days with low usage. Also SP has the sexy LED strip!
Also BE2 ports? I don't really trust they work. At least I havent found a working port for mine.
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Small correction there: The T would get you through a day with heavy usage and about 2 days with low usage. Also SP has the sexy LED strip!
Also BE2 ports? I don't really trust they work. At least I havent found a working port for mine.
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Via pimp my rom i can integrate bravia engine 2. I don't link led bad to be honest mate. I personally don't find it useful for xperia u. I don't use it at all even for notifications.
The only thing that i am worry about is the adreno 225 to be honest. It's the only reason i am not sure if worth buying it.
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Via pimp my rom i can integrate bravia engine 2. I don't link led bad to be honest mate. I personally don't find it useful for xperia u. I don't use it at all even for notifications.
The only thing that i am worry about is the adreno 225 to be honest. It's the only reason i am not sure if worth buying it.
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Well it might not be useful.. but it still looks good
And about BE2 integration.. Are you sure it works? I mean did you take a before and after screenshot of it?
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Well it might not be useful.. but it still looks good
And about BE2 integration.. Are you sure it works? I mean did you take a before and after screenshot of it?
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Nope i didn't to be honest but read some posts where peep say it's working. I saw that you are on xperia T now (signature). Do you face any problems with gaming, lags on phonecalls ecc?
DaRk-L0rD said:
Nope i didn't to be honest but read some posts where peep say it's working. I saw that you are on xperia T now (signature). Do you face any problems with gaming, lags on phonecalls ecc?
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i prefer Xperia SP,better processor,newer,just it's front cam lower.
SP. But I suggest to look for device with 2GB RAM.
DaRk-L0rD said:
Nope i didn't to be honest but read some posts where peep say it's working. I saw that you are on xperia T now (signature). Do you face any problems with gaming, lags on phonecalls ecc?
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Gaming is not something I do often but I have tried some games such as Anomaly HD, Gun Strike, Razor Salvation, Tentacle Wars and CS Portable. I have not experienced any kind of lag. As for phone calls, occasionally the dialer does lag a bit when making calls (especially T9 dialer) and annoys me, but that maybe because I have well over 200 apps and installed and many of them have running processes. If you're talking about calls during games, there is no problem. Incoming calls are fine.
About Bravia, there is no real proof that it works (even with those who claim it works) so it might just be two lines on your build.prop and a couple useless of extra files in your system
Or you can wait for the coming up Phablet,Xperia ZU (Togari) :laugh:
Or Xperia i1 Honami
Ben Ling said:
Or you can wait for the coming up Phablet,Xperia ZU (Togari) :laugh:
Or Xperia i1 Honami
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I saw that one mate. But i'm student so budget is limited
DaRk-L0rD said:
I saw that one mate. But i'm student so budget is limited
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if you want to choose T choose TX better,more beautiful and slim,but the software update will be slower than T.
Ben Ling said:
if you want to choose T choose TX better,more beautiful and slim,but the software update will be slower than T.
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I didn't find the tx here in Italy bro and i don't want to buy it from overseas. I prefer from Italy just in case something goes wrong. Much appreciated your help mate
DaRk-L0rD said:
I didn't find the tx here in Italy bro and i don't want to buy it from overseas. I prefer from Italy just in case something goes wrong. Much appreciated your help mate
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o...i stay in Malaysia and here only sell Xperia TX,T no.
It seems that SP has a different CPU(series) from others(T,TX,Z etc).So maybe FXP/CM support will not be easy,but I can't be sure of it...
To be honest bro, I don't use cm10 even if its a great rom. I used it on my Xperia u but didn't like it because of the camera.
I found sp on almost same price with Xperia t so I think I'll buy the sp.
Hello i am thinking of buying Xperia T but since Android 4.3 is comming out i thought that Xperia T is a bit too old .... shall i buy it or buy something else .
Its pretty cheap for its specs and i think its one of the best phones out there but its is kinda old.
I'd go for the SP now
Exactly, SP is the best buy
jackaros said:
Hello i am thinking of buying Xperia T but since Android 4.3 is comming out i thought that Xperia T is a bit too old .... shall i buy it or buy something else .
Its pretty cheap for its specs and i think its one of the best phones out there but its is kinda old.
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Yes, you can buy mine!
Only joking mods.
Seriously, im getting rid of mine for the Moto X. And if i wasnt getting that id get the Nexus 4.
So you suggest me to go with the Xperia SP rather than the Xperia T ???
Xperia T has better camera but Xperia SP is a more pricie in Greece.
Also Xperia T has the SOD issue.
I dont know yet i will compare the two.
And search the thing a bit more.
Edit: I searched the thing and i will probably go with the SP if i have the money.
It has a 1.7 Dual Core proccessor and 4g Technology
But the 8 MP camera should be enough for a person which does not take much photos.
But as for the front camera....Is 0.3 MP enough for Skype calls ???
jackaros said:
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Also Xperia T has the SOD issue.
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No it doesn't,
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No it doesn't,
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I saw some comments on Xperia T from one guy who had this problem 2 times in 2 months.
Anyway i am thinking of going with xperia Sp i will give it a look.
jackaros said:
I saw some comments on Xperia T from one guy who had this problem 2 times in 2 months.
Anyway i am thinking of going with xperia Sp i will give it a look.
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hey bro, the main interesting part you should go for in SP is GPU, did you know that it has Adreno 320 GPU?!!! the same as the one used in Xperia Z, while the pixel quantity is way less than Xperia Z, so you would see better graphic performance, or AT LEAST the same
no one can compare Adreno 320 (in SP) with Adreno 225 (in T and TX)
don't make my mistake, go for SP
hope that my words come of a service to you, bro
jackaros said:
Hello i am thinking of buying Xperia T but since Android 4.3 is comming out i thought that Xperia T is a bit too old .... shall i buy it or buy something else .
Its pretty cheap for its specs and i think its one of the best phones out there but its is kinda old.
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I had the same doubt and i decided to go for T for the following reasons:
1)Better camera (13/1.3 vs 8/vga). Most sp users complain about camera quality.
2)More internal storage 16gb (T) vs 8gb (SP)
3) Also seems there are some problems with touchscreen of the SP.
4)I really like the design of the T.
5)It's true that has an adreno 225 the T but i also took a look on several gaming reviews on youtube and seems there are no lags.
6)Found T for 230 euros and SP for 350 euros.
7)T has cyanogenmod and even if there are no official releases from sony cm will give us probably android 4.3 and 5.0.
8)On some videos of youtube seems that t has better display than SP.
Just my opinion mate.
Thanks but now i am more confused.
As for the price Xperia T 264 EURO and Xperia SP 300 (no bigie there)
SP +
1)Adreno 320
2)Bravia Engine 2
3)Bluetooth 4
4)4G
5)Larger battery (++)
6)CPU
7)Larger Screen
8)Aluminum Frame
9)I like the button
10)Dedicated camera button
SP -
1)Camera
2) Internal
3)Design
4)Pixel Density
(Internal Storage is not a huge deal for me .... because i will have a 16GB external storage and with apps to sd its no biggie)
Know Problems : http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/128963?start=0&tstart=0
Xperia T +
1)design
2)Camera
3)Pixel density
4)Internal Storage
Xperia T -
1)CPU
2)GPU
3)no dedicated camera button
4)Older handset which means it may not get the 5.0 kelimepie update
5)Small Battery
Known Problems : http://community.o2.co.uk/t5/Android-Devices-Samsung-HTC-Sony/Sony-Xperia-T-sleep-of-death/td-p/393068
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961714
Small battery offers way less fun
But still a good and Cheaper handset.....
I am not sure....
You can't be sure about android 5.0 update.
Xperia t was created as high end device and sp like mid range device.
There are several mods and roms for t currently not available for sp.
Right but i think i will go for the SP because i it will be updateable to 5.0 and it has better specs
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No it doesn't,
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I've had it happen to me twice. I had to hard reset to rectify.
I dont know if the Xperia T has a hard reset button.But Xperia SP has so if i brick it i will be able to reset it.
I've had it happen to me twice. I had to hard reset to rectify.
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jackaros said:
I dont know if the Xperia T has a hard reset button.But Xperia SP has so if i brick it i will be able to reset it.
How did you hard reset it ?
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Press and hold power and volume up.
dully79 said:
Press and hold power and volume up.
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Thank you
matt4321 said:
I'd go for the SP now
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ebi4321 said:
Exactly, SP is the best buy
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jackaros said:
So you suggest me to go with the Xperia SP rather than the Xperia T ???
Xperia T has better camera but Xperia SP is a more pricie in Greece.
Also Xperia T has the SOD issue.
I dont know yet i will compare the two.
And search the thing a bit more.
Edit: I searched the thing and i will probably go with the SP if i have the money.
It has a 1.7 Dual Core proccessor and 4g Technology
But the 8 MP camera should be enough for a person which does not take much photos.
But as for the front camera....Is 0.3 MP enough for Skype calls ???
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ebi4321 said:
hey bro, the main interesting part you should go for in SP is GPU, did you know that it has Adreno 320 GPU?!!! the same as the one used in Xperia Z, while the pixel quantity is way less than Xperia Z, so you would see better graphic performance, or AT LEAST the same
no one can compare Adreno 320 (in SP) with Adreno 225 (in T and TX)
don't make my mistake, go for SP
hope that my words come of a service to you, bro
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Thank you
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No! Buy Xperia T.
No words can describe that! Simply I went to the store and SP wasn't even close to T! I can't explain why.
As somebody said here T is made to be high end, and SP mid range phone.
This is evidence specifications mean nothing!
There's new Honami flagship on the way, price of Z(L) can drop!
Either go with T or with Z(L)
If you want newer Androids, T has good development, go to xda and install.
I think Sony even said older devices (T) is getting 4.3 but I don't know.
The best thing I think is to buy a nexus 4 if you want for sure getting android 5 and 4.3.
Since processors, rams and other stuff change every 6 months and you can't never be sure that you have the best phone of the moment, why don't you buy a phone like Xperia t and a tablet like Google nexus 7? You will have a great phone and an epic tablet for gaming etc. I am thinking to do this way personally.
I cant afford both ( i can barely afford one ) so i will buy the best phone.
But guys personaly i am not taking very many photos (1-2 per 2 or even 3 months and not from people objects and stuff most of the time)
and i need something up to date and very fast with a large screen.(both Sp and T have these things)
I went to the store and meesed with the Xperia Sp for a bit and saw that it fitted my hand well and it did not lag a bit.
When SP gets old (in one year or so ) i will start messing with it (if there are no update to future android versions) like changing the rom or flashing a kernel or even overclocking it so its stays up to date.Also i saw somewhere that SP is designed as a High End device and it will be updateable even in the future android versions (after 5.0)
Also the place where i am buying the phone from has not the Nexus 4 available now.But in no store in my town i found the Nexus 4 ... i dont think it is available in Greece.
Hi guys.. right now I am about to buy a new phone... SP comes into my consideration and i find it pretty cool and powerful.. Though.. yesterday I found out that there is also P6 in the offer... What would you recommend ? I am probably going for the SP, but P6 has got 4 cores. Does it make that much of a difference ?
Personally i dont know anything about P6. So my recommendation is SP. Go For SP.. But while purchasing pls check one main thing in SP. Touch problem while Charging. U cant use ur phone while Charging.. But new phones doesnot have that problem i think. Any way make sure at the first day of the Purchase...
And also put ur phone in a flat surface and then use it.. That also a famous SP problem.. So pls check both of this two problems first..
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Hi guys.. right now I am about to buy a new phone... SP comes into my consideration and i find it pretty cool and powerful.. Though.. yesterday I found out that there is also P6 in the offer... What would you recommend ? I am probably going for the SP, but P6 has got 4 cores. Does it make that much of a difference ?
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galaxy s3 has 4 cores and in benchmark the SP is much better then S3 with 4 cores. Also Xperia sp has 4g (LTE) better battery and Andreno 320 GPU also is best gpu 4 playing games... i think xperia sp is the right choice..
Sorry for english (not my native language)
Its not the ammount of cores that tells you if the performance is high or not. It is the overall feeling of a device.
I've tested both the SP and P6 and I find the SP more suiteble for me.
Reason:
- UI: I dont like the UI of huawei
- GPU: Adreno 320 is very powerfull
- CPU: Cores and speed dont tell everything
Things the SP has:
-Notificatio ledbar
- Bluetooth 4.0
- 4G (LTE)
- NFC
Things the P6 has:
- Wireless charging
- 2GB RAM
Go to the website of sony and huawei and compare the features and specs. Dont use comparison websites because not all the websites have the correct specs.
Also go to a store and try both phones
Has P6 a HDR Camera?
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Has P6 a HDR Camera?
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Yes but the SP too
The SP's 2 cores have a higher clock speed and the chipset in general has a superior manufacturer.
Don't think the P6 has 4G either.
The extra RAM on the P6 is useful though - 1 GB of RAM is OK, but Sony steal quite a lot of it for system resources - 2GB means you'd have to be doing insane amounts of multi tasking to ever worry about it.
I suspect there will be much more development on the SP, if you're into custom ROMS.
My reasons for chosing the SP were 4G and familiarity (I like using custom ROMS, know how Sony do things and am used to all the flashing tools etc.) - I also like the fact that not many people have the SP.
please see test of P6! the touchscreen response is very poor, however, the touch screen of the SP responds only in a few situations even bad. mostly is nice.
Thanks guys I am going for the SP... i am sure i wont regret ...thread can be closed
The screen of sp is horrible
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mine doesn't have that problem
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Some device have that problem... U r lucky if u don't have that problem..
Just search in YouTube like
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Xperia SP Touch Screen bug while charging "
U can see that
Osku958 said:
mine doesn't have that problem
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here also ok. :good:
P6在中国就是个垃圾。短续航，游戏性能低，发热量高和实际只有200Mhz的GPU。。
P6 in China is a waste. Short battery life, low gaming performance, high heat, and actually only 200Mhz for GPU. .
Sorry for my poor English
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mine doesn't have that problem
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Some Proofs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpZeiQ5oJ7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcAt-iuZK-c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk1cgjuDGqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTJ1vD2kv8g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhLy2fJ9AFk
So u are lucky....
I can confirm the charging problem on my X Sp as well... But i changed it from service centre for free via DOA process.. And new one has no issues.. I can perfectly use my phone during charging and flat surface.. Issues are no longer present..
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Hi everyone, as the title says, I'm thinking of upgrading. But people says SP has a lot of hardware problems.
Further more, do you guys think the upgrade from Xperia V worth it? Aside from the SP's horsepower, which is obviously better, how bout the camera, battery, build quality,..?
Thanks in advance and if possible, please tell me some problems SP usually have so that I can check for it carefully when I buy the phone :good:
p/s: SP is the only one in my price range so please don't suggest any other
nooooo
cnkhanh said:
Hi everyone, as the title says, I'm thinking of upgrading. But people says SP has a lot of hardware problems.
Further more, do you guys think the upgrade from Xperia V worth it? Aside from the SP's horsepower, which is obviously better, how bout the camera, battery, build quality,..?
Thanks in advance and if possible, please tell me some problems SP usually have so that I can check for it carefully when I buy the phone :good:
p/s: SP is the only one in my price range so please don't suggest any other
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hey, SP has its own standard. But, when u r upgrading from V, it wont sound good. V has better camera, IP 57 certified, better PPI, approx almost same processor (V: Dual1.5G; SP: Dual1.7G), same chipset, same RAM, same data rates. SP have a better GPU and battery.SP has bad viewing angles, comparitively bad camera than V. Put some extra bucks and try for Nexus 5. If you prefer only SONY made product, Xperia ZR will be a better option than SP. Nexus 5 and ZR both comes under almost same price bracket. So, decide..:good:
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hey, SP has its own standard. But, when u r upgrading from V, it wont sound good. V has better camera, IP 57 certified, better PPI, approx almost same processor (V: Dual1.5G; SP: Dual1.7G), same chipset, same RAM, same data rates. SP have a better GPU and battery.SP has bad viewing angles, comparitively bad camera than V. Put some extra bucks and try for Nexus 5. If you prefer only SONY made product, Xperia ZR will be a better option than SP. Nexus 5 and ZR both comes under almost same price bracket. So, decide..:good:
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Thanks but water proof is not much use for me. And SP's chipset is wayyy better which is a big advantage over V in my opinion. Bigger batery as well.
In my country Nexus 5 and ZR are a bit overpriced so they wont be an option for me More over, I'm a Sony fan
I would personally wait a little more for Xperia 2014 mid range phone. Xperia V is still a good device, and it will have 4.3. SP is a little more powerful and has a slightly better battery, but Sony won't support it past 4.4. If you can find ZL for cheap where you live, that would be a good option too. Xperia SP's hardware isn't better than your V, screen is worse, the power button tends to break (I already got my SP swapped twice because the power button broke), Wi-Fi reception is very bad, borderline useless. Also, V's camera is much better for sure.
Xperia SP is way better than V imo. Bigger screen, better battery, LED strip. Camera is quite good too (way better than Nexus 4). Hardware is also better (same GPU as Nexus 4, which is very powerful: Adreno 320).
If SP is not a big improvement for you, and you're a Sony fan, I would upgrade to Xperia Z, they are not much more expensivce than SPs. Official CM10.2 is there and CM11 is quite useable for that phone. I'm planning to switch soon.
I had Arc S then i bought Xperia sp and it was big improvement for me but you have dual core phone with 1GB of ram it's not that bad. Like wiidbzxt said wait a little more Sony will probably release some new mid range phone in 2014. Maybe some phone from Z series would be better also over time price will go down.
Stick with your Xperia V and wait few months, that is my opinion .
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hey, SP has its own standard. But, when u r upgrading from V, it wont sound good. V has better camera, IP 57 certified, better PPI, approx almost same processor (V: Dual1.5G; SP: Dual1.7G), same chipset, same RAM, same data rates. SP have a better GPU and battery.SP has bad viewing angles, comparitively bad camera than V. Put some extra bucks and try for Nexus 5. If you prefer only SONY made product, Xperia ZR will be a better option than SP. Nexus 5 and ZR both comes under almost same price bracket. So, decide..:good:
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This is incorrect, the SP has a MSM 8960 Pro Krait Chipset with 1.7 Ghz Dual core plus Adreno 320
The V has 8960 1.5 Ghz Adreno 225
It's 2014, avoid the SP. It was a good phone, but little to no updates makes the hardware useless. I'm selling mine this month. I got tired of trying roms.
cnkhanh said:
Hi everyone, as the title says, I'm thinking of upgrading. But people says SP has a lot of hardware problems.
Further more, do you guys think the upgrade from Xperia V worth it? Aside from the SP's horsepower, which is obviously better, how bout the camera, battery, build quality,..?
Thanks in advance and if possible, please tell me some problems SP usually have so that I can check for it carefully when I buy the phone :good:
p/s: SP is the only one in my price range so please don't suggest any other
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Seriously DUDE ?????????|
you are giving Up water proof and 13 MP camera for such a little upgrade ??
just dont man if i had the Xperia V in my country i would have bought it instead of the Xperia SP if you really want to upgrade then wait and collect more money to get an LG G2 or Nexus 5 or HTC one
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Xperia SP is way better than V imo. Bigger screen, better battery, LED strip. Camera is quite good too (way better than Nexus 4). Hardware is also better (same GPU as Nexus 4, which is very powerful: Adreno 320).
If SP is not a big improvement for you, and you're a Sony fan, I would upgrade to Xperia Z, they are not much more expensivce than SPs. Official CM10.2 is there and CM11 is quite useable for that phone. I'm planning to switch soon.
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Dude can you please give me a link to official CM 10.2 and if its just a download link tell me how to flash and what are the bugs and where to get the GAPPS and stuff like that ?
Thanks in advance
plz read it correctly..
raziel123 said:
This is incorrect, the SP has a MSM 8960 Pro Krait Chipset with 1.7 Ghz Dual core plus Adreno 320
The V has 8960 1.5 Ghz Adreno 225
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Hi.. I hv not told they have same features. I have used the words (approx almost same as) which matches them closely but not equally where SP wins closely.. Kindly look into it..
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Hi everyone, as the title says, I'm thinking of upgrading. But people says SP has a lot of hardware problems.
Further more, do you guys think the upgrade from Xperia V worth it? Aside from the SP's horsepower, which is obviously better, how bout the camera, battery, build quality,..?
Thanks in advance and if possible, please tell me some problems SP usually have so that I can check for it carefully when I buy the phone :good:
p/s: SP is the only one in my price range so please don't suggest any other
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I would suggest that you wait for more devices to get released and save enough money for a decent upgrade. There ain't much difference between Xperia V and SP. Also , Xperia SP will soon get discontinued. Sony on the other hand supports a device for 18 Months only after the release date. So Android 4.4 might be THE LAST software update for the phone(SP). Newer phones will be released with atleast Android 4.3 pre installed so that you could enjoy newer updates for the next 18 months. If you want to buy a phone in the coming days (urgently) then get atleast Xperia ZR or Xperia Z. Both the phones are future proof. Or better wait and save enough for Xperia Z1 Compact
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I would suggest that you wait for more devices to get released and save enough money for a decent upgrade. There ain't much difference between Xperia V and SP. Also , Xperia SP will soon get discontinued. Sony on the other hand supports a device for 18 Months only after the release date. So Android 4.4 might be THE LAST software update for the phone(SP). Newer phones will be released with atleast Android 4.3 pre installed so that you could enjoy newer updates for the next 18 months. If you want to buy a phone in the coming days (urgently) then get atleast Xperia ZR or Xperia Z. Both the phones are future proof. Or better wait and save enough for Xperia Z1 Compact
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Thanks guys,
The problem with Sony phones is, when they've just been released, the price is quite high and then drop about half in 1 year (that's in my country). Me on the other hand is still a student saving money for a newer phone so my options are quite narrow and I have to consider 6 months - 1year old phones.
And I play games on my phone quite often so I really want the GPU update from Adreno 225
But seems like you guys save my day anyway, I think I'm gonna save a little more for ZR or ZL maybe, or another 2014 midrange
@cnkhanh
I can understand that feeling. I myself am a student saving enough money for the next decent upgrade (maybe after 2-3years).
February onwards you'll see alot of devices popping up in the market.
But if you want to buy it urgently, then go for Xperia ZR. There ain't much price difference between SP and ZR. It costs 70 - 80$ more than SP. But it is worth it.
You do get a waterproof , dustproof and shatterproof smartphone with a 13meg camera capable of underwater photography along with 1.5GHZ Quad krait processor . Basically the same features of Xperia Z without the back glass panel and THE BATTERY IS REMOVABLE. And because of its 720p display it performs better than Xperia Z. Also Android 4.3 is available for Xperia ZR.
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Seriously DUDE ?????????|
you are giving Up water proof and 13 MP camera for such a little upgrade ??
just dont man if i had the Xperia V in my country i would have bought it instead of the Xperia SP if you really want to upgrade then wait and collect more money to get an LG G2 or Nexus 5 or HTC one
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Dude can you please give me a link to official CM 10.2 and if its just a download link tell me how to flash and what are the bugs and where to get the GAPPS and stuff like that ?
Thanks in advance
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He's talking about Xperia Z. Now stop spamming all the threads with the same questions. If you want more out of your phone RTFM, it's all there on this forum, all the information you need about all the roms available.
I already gave you an extended answer to that question in another thread too!
On-topic:
Why not wait for the Xperia Z1 Compact? If you want a small phone, otherwise, just get the Z1 in the near future as it will drop price with the new Xperia phones coming or get a new midrange model.
If gaming is important for you I'd at least get a phone with the Adreno 330, that will ahve more support in the near future and will come along just a little longer, I know I'm gonna get myself a Z1 Compact, now owning a Xiaomi M2S and Xperia SP, the SP is too big and the screen quality is ****, especially when next to the M2S.
Or like the comment above, the ZR... well it's all up to you in the end, I still think it's strange people ask for advice when they have to make the decission all alone
You know what you need right?!
I know what I will get next if the screen is better then SP/equal to M2S... the COMPACT
Wait
Yup, Wait, if you can of course, but I would not choose the ZR over SP, I don't need a quad chip of 1,5, 1,7dual is better for me, games run much better, and the SP's got style, i like the design, besides the battery is great, but then again if you need to take pictures under water rather than playing games that's your business, I had no intention of sinking under 30meters under water with my gf to take pics of her or **** konws what else.
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He's talking about Xperia Z. Now stop spamming all the threads with the same questions. If you want more out of your phone RTFM, it's all there on this forum, all the information you need about all the roms available.
I already gave you an extended answer to that question in another thread too!
On-topic:
Why not wait for the Xperia Z1 Compact? If you want a small phone, otherwise, just get the Z1 in the near future as it will drop price with the new Xperia phones coming or get a new midrange model.
If gaming is important for you I'd at least get a phone with the Adreno 330, that will ahve more support in the near future and will come along just a little longer, I know I'm gonna get myself a Z1 Compact, now owning a Xiaomi M2S and Xperia SP, the SP is too big and the screen quality is ****, especially when next to the M2S.
Or like the comment above, the ZR... well it's all up to you in the end, I still think it's strange people ask for advice when they have to make the decission all alone
You know what you need right?!
I know what I will get next if the screen is better then SP/equal to M2S... the COMPACT
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Dude you dont need to be such a **** about it seriously i just saw alot of CM 10.1 roms so i wanted to see the official
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Dude you dont need to be such a **** about it seriously i just saw alot of CM 10.1 roms so i wanted to see the official
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There aint no official CM available for Xperia SP right now. But I reckon that a stable build is there on FreeXperia Project website. All CM builds for Xperia SP are posted over there. Even CM 11 (still under development though) has been uploaded on the website.
For GAPPS , google it. Or else go to cyanogenmod website. There you'll find GAPPS for all CM builds
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Sigh....
There aint no official CM available for Xperia SP right now. But I reckon that a stable build is there on FreeXperia Project website. All CM builds for Xperia SP are posted over there. Even CM 11 (still under development though) has been uploaded on the website.
For GAPPS , google it. Or else go to cyanogenmod website. There you'll find GAPPS for all CM builds
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Yea i know i thought the guy above was talking about an official one for the XSP so i just asked him
I also suggest to wait. Upgrading from V to SP is not worth it for the price you're gonna pay. It's too little for an upgrade considering the little advantages the SP has over the V. There are (i think) 7 Sony devices coming this year, 2 of them are midrange devices to replace the SP (D530x) so i think its much better to wait for them.
edit: im gonna get the Z1 this year prices are gonna get low for sure when newer ones come along. But it doesnt matter, it's still the same badass Z1 we know today
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Hi.. I hv not told they have same features. I have used the words (approx almost same as) which matches them closely but not equally where SP wins closely.. Kindly look into it..
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The Adreno 320 GPU is multiple times faster than the older Adreno 225 GPU,
the difference is not slight, but a large one.
at the moment though V to a Z upgrade is probably a better choice,
regards