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[Q] HTC One – Where to start?!?

Firstly, thank you for reading this post. I appreciate that there are a number of posts already covering a lot of what I will be asking (I have already checked and Googled) but in much the same way you end up watching a video of a cat rescuing a child from Narnia on YouTube when you originally started with videos about the political stability in the Middle East, the tedious link between start and finish is now well and truly blurred!
With the above in mind, the aim of this post is to try and collate answers to my questions in one place. I will try and be as clear as possible.
It is also worth mentioning I am not completely new to this. I previously owned an HTC Sensation which I rooted myself (even used the paper clip technique) but the world of ROMs and “Framework” etc seems to be totally different to what is was a few years ago.
I suppose I will start with the basics, the custom recovery.
I have used both CWM and 4EXT in the past and am wondering which is favourable for the HTC One? A lot of posts I have read use CWM but an advantage I found with 4EXT was the ability to flash Kernels without having to go through the whole Super CID route I had to with my Sensation. Am I concerned about an issue that no longer exists or are the benefits of using 4EXT still relevant for the HTC One?
Secondly….and sort of thirdly, kernels and ROMs. Obviously I am wanting to OC the HTC One and I have found a number of kernels which allow this. I have also found a number of custom ROMS which include kernels that allow for over clocking….fine, except the “thirdly” part of this question is the difference between custom ROMs and the “Xposed” framework I have been reading about.
If I flash a custom ROM will Xposed still work or is it a case of one or the other?
To me, it seems the Xposed framework is the preferred option by a number of people for the very detailed level of customisable options it provides without (almost) any of the unwanted parts.
I appreciate the above might be a bit tongue tied so here is a simpler way of what I am asking:
• Custom ROM + Kernel + Xposed – Possible? And or necessary?
• Kernel + Xposed – Possible?
• Custom ROM + Kernel – I know this is possible.
Now, if the first bullet point is possible, I would like to know of a few 4.3 ROMs I can use. Please remember I am on the international UK version. A number of posts have US 4.3 ROMs but every time I look for international compatible ROMs it only ever states 4.2.2.
Is there a 4.3 ROM available for the UK HTC SIM Free One?
Note* The ROMs do not have to include kernels, I can find a compatible one easy enough.
Lastly, S-OFF.
If the original question about recovery images is negative, do I have to S-Off the device and S-CID etc?
If you got this far, thanks for reading and hopefully you can make things a little clearer than mud!

First thing I'd do is check the HBOOT on the phone as if you're on 1.44 I'd S-OFF it NOW! Even if you never do anything else it gives you the option in future
I'd then just use the phone as normal as this is the first phone I've not had to root...
If you DO want to go down the rooting route, then I'd look at Android Revolution HD which is currently running the latest leaked build for the EU handsets and works 100% fine on the unbranded EU/UK handset

EddyOS said:
First thing I'd do is check the HBOOT on the phone as if you're on 1.44 I'd S-OFF it NOW! Even if you never do anything else it gives you the option in future
I'd then just use the phone as normal as this is the first phone I've not had to root...
If you DO want to go down the rooting route, then I'd look at Android Revolution HD which is currently running the latest leaked build for the EU handsets and works 100% fine on the unbranded EU/UK handset
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Thanks Eddy,
I would like to go down the rooting path due to the OC and customisable options.
I will check the HBOOT though when I get it in a few days....
Thanks.
Anyone else with any other comments on OP?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

r1tesh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the link.
I did already find this and have it saved as a point of reference for when I figure out what I need to do.
I think my questions above still require guidance though as I am already aware updating firmware will require S-Off and S-CID but when I rooted my second Sensation, 4EXT allowed for the flashing of certain things without the requirement to S-OFF or S-CID (paper clip trick).
Furthermore, this doesnt touch on the ROM vs Xposed query but as mentioned, thanks for the link.

WOW long post
ssjghost said:
Lastly, S-OFF.
If the original question about recovery images is negative, do I have to S-Off the device and S-CID etc?
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Actually, this should be firstly, S-Off if you can (at the moment that's only for hboot 1.44 pre June 2013, or using a JavaCard); use vomer's guide posted above.
Things have changed since Sensation, S-Off is good to change CID (IF needed), but a must for flashing unsigned firmware. (not to mention running a downgrade RUU)
However, even with S-On, you can still flash custom ROM, kernel, recovery, and even radio, using HTCdev to get an unlock token for your phone.
ssjghost said:
I suppose I will start with the basics, the custom recovery.
I have used both CWM and 4EXT in the past and am wondering which is favourable for the HTC One? A lot of posts I have read use CWM but an advantage I found with 4EXT was the ability to flash Kernels without having to go through the whole Super CID route I had to with my Sensation. Am I concerned about an issue that no longer exists or are the benefits of using 4EXT still relevant for the HTC One?
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You'll need to use either CWM or TWRP, I believe 4EXT is not (yet) compatible with HTC One M7. As mentioned above both these recoveries are able to flash ROM, kernel and radio. S-Off and SuperCID not needed. Download those from the threads in xda, not the official web site as the ones in the thread are more up to date.
ssjghost said:
• Custom ROM + Kernel + Xposed – Possible? And or necessary?
• Kernel + Xposed – Possible?
• Custom ROM + Kernel – I know this is possible.
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All three possible. :good::good:
ssjghost said:
Now, if the first bullet point is possible, I would like to know of a few 4.3 ROMs I can use. Please remember I am on the international UK version. A number of posts have US 4.3 ROMs but every time I look for international compatible ROMs it only ever states 4.2.2.
Is there a 4.3 ROM available for the UK HTC SIM Free One?
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I can't say for all ROMs, but many of them are/were based on the US Developer edition, which was one of the first to receive 4.3, but were recoded to be WWE editions, that would work for UK.
Just remember to stay away from Sprint and Verizon editions, as these are completely different.
ssjghost said:
Note* The ROMs do not have to include kernels, I can find a compatible one easy enough.
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The ROMs do include a kernel, but you can flash any other kernel after having flashed the ROM; so by extension every time you flash a ROM, you would need to reflash your custom kernel (making sure it's compatible with the ROM base obviously).
Hope that helps out a little, and remember to hit the thanks button for all that helped

nkk71 said:
WOW long post
Actually, this should be firstly, S-Off if you can (at the moment that's only for hboot 1.44 pre June 2013, or using a JavaCard); use vomer's guide posted above.
Things have changed since Sensation, S-Off is good to change CID (IF needed), but a must for flashing unsigned firmware. (not to mention running a downgrade RUU)
However, even with S-On, you can still flash custom ROM, kernel, recovery, and even radio, using HTCdev to get an unlock token for your phone.
You'll need to use either CWM or TWRP, I believe 4EXT is not (yet) compatible with HTC One M7. As mentioned above both these recoveries are able to flash ROM, kernel and radio. S-Off and SuperCID not needed. Download those from the threads in xda, not the official web site as the ones in the thread are more up to date.
All three possible. :good::good:
I can't say for all ROMs, but many of them are/were based on the US Developer edition, which was one of the first to receive 4.3, but were recoded to be WWE editions, that would work for UK.
Just remember to stay away from Sprint and Verizon editions, as these are completely different.
The ROMs do include a kernel, but you can flash any other kernel after having flashed the ROM; so by extension every time you flash a ROM, you would need to reflash your custom kernel (making sure it's compatible with the ROM base obviously).
Hope that helps out a little, and remember to hit the thanks button for all that helped
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Perfect! Thats the answer I was "rooting" for.......
Although, your detailed answer has prompted another question.
Given that I can flash ROMS, Xposed and kernels without the need to S-Off or Super CID and the only benefit to S-Off and S-CID is the ability to flash new firmware and radios, this begs the question, for the not so hard core rooting user, do I even need to?
Agreed the posts say to S-Off straight away so I will heed this advice but in honesty, am I required to?
Am I likely to encounter any problems by flashing 4.3 ROMs without upgrading to the latest firmware?

S-OFF gives you a 'get out of jail' option should you ever need it as you can flash an RUU to return the phone to stock. What software build are you running on at present?
It's always best to match firmware to the ROM

EddyOS said:
S-OFF gives you a 'get out of jail' option should you ever need it as you can flash an RUU to return the phone to stock. What software build are you running on at present?
It's always best to match firmware to the ROM
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Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?

ssjghost said:
Perfect! Thats the answer I was "rooting" for.......
Although, your detailed answer has prompted another question.
Given that I can flash ROMS, Xposed and kernels without the need to S-Off or Super CID and the only benefit to S-Off and S-CID is the ability to flash new firmware and radios, this begs the question, for the not so hard core rooting user, do I even need to?
Agreed the posts say to S-Off straight away so I will heed this advice but in honesty, am I required to?
Am I likely to encounter any problems by flashing 4.3 ROMs without upgrading to the latest firmware?
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SuperCID is not needed anyway (I believe) for flashing unsigned firmware, S-Off should suffice. On the other hand, finding signed firmware, is quite difficult, I haven't seen but a few around (and pretty old). You could still receive them using OTAs, but that would force you to flash stock ROM, stock recovery, and maybe even relock the bootloader, then having to go through the bootloader unlocking procedure again (which also wipes your phone completely, including sdcard/internal storage)
That bring one thing to mind, the first thing you should do once you install a custom recovery, is do a complete nandroid backup of your phone, should you need to get back to it at some later point in time (including for example, receiving OTAs)
As for "needing" to upgrade firmware, there are people still running 1.xx firmware (from Android 4.1.2) with 4.3 ROMs. Everything from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 was pretty much OK with any firmware.
However, I've recently read a few posts on ARHD, where some issues (on ARHD 30.0) were actually only resolved with an update to the latest firmware. I cannot confirm these were actually issues due to different firmware and base versions, but it may very well be case.
If you are able to achieve s-off (I personally did it with revone, as it doesn't use a custom hboot, just get's rid of the security ON), I highly recommend it. Even if you never need it, having it is better as it will allow you to downgrade/upgrade, etc.etc.
One last thing, when you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader and flash custom stuff, the bootloader will show "UNLOCKED" and "TAMPERED", even if you lock it again, it will only show as "RELOCKED", whereas with revone, you can remove the "TAMPERED" sign, and even return it to "LOCKED".
PS: Since you're in the UK, at worst, you can use the FunFoneShop (or whatever they're called), because they have JavaCards which can achieve S-Off even for 1.54 hboot (I think they charge something like 20 or 30 pounds, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, some people are saying that s-off for 1.54 "is around the corner" (by beaups), but can't confirm that either.
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ssjghost said:
Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
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Software build is the HTC version, ie ARHD 30.0 is "latest official HTC One 3.57.401.500 - Android 4.3", and firmware would be the firmware in that release. You can use different firmware version with different base version, but it's always best (if you can) to have both the same.

ssjghost said:
Sorry, excuse my ignorance.
When you say "software build" do you mean firmware version or android build? Or something else completely!?
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As in the build shown in Settings>About phone>Software information, e.g. 2.24.401.8

nkk71 said:
SuperCID is not needed anyway (I believe) for flashing unsigned firmware, S-Off should suffice. On the other hand, finding signed firmware, is quite difficult, I haven't seen but a few around (and pretty old). You could still receive them using OTAs, but that would force you to flash stock ROM, stock recovery, and maybe even relock the bootloader, then having to go through the bootloader unlocking procedure again (which also wipes your phone completely, including sdcard/internal storage)
That bring one thing to mind, the first thing you should do once you install a custom recovery, is do a complete nandroid backup of your phone, should you need to get back to it at some later point in time (including for example, receiving OTAs)
As for "needing" to upgrade firmware, there are people still running 1.xx firmware (from Android 4.1.2) with 4.3 ROMs. Everything from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 was pretty much OK with any firmware.
However, I've recently read a few posts on ARHD, where some issues (on ARHD 30.0) were actually only resolved with an update to the latest firmware. I cannot confirm these were actually issues due to different firmware and base versions, but it may very well be case.
If you are able to achieve s-off (I personally did it with revone, as it doesn't use a custom hboot, just get's rid of the security ON), I highly recommend it. Even if you never need it, having it is better as it will allow you to downgrade/upgrade, etc.etc.
One last thing, when you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader and flash custom stuff, the bootloader will show "UNLOCKED" and "TAMPERED", even if you lock it again, it will only show as "RELOCKED", whereas with revone, you can remove the "TAMPERED" sign, and even return it to "LOCKED".
PS: Since you're in the UK, at worst, you can use the FunFoneShop (or whatever they're called), because they have JavaCards which can achieve S-Off even for 1.54 hboot (I think they charge something like 20 or 30 pounds, if I'm not mistaken)
Also, some people are saying that s-off for 1.54 "is around the corner" (by beaups), but can't confirm that either.
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Software build is the HTC version, ie ARHD 30.0 is "latest official HTC One 3.57.401.500 - Android 4.3", and firmware would be the firmware in that release. You can use different firmware version with different base version, but it's always best (if you can) to have both the same.
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OK, so asuming I will be flashing a 4.3 ROM or 4.2.2 at the latest, my software version will be 3.57.401.500?
Therefore find the appropriate firmware for this software build?

The build is linked to the ROM you flash. ARHD is currently based on the recent 3.57.401.500 leak which is Android 4.3 and you'd ideally need the FW to match it but you have to be S-OFF to flash the FW
Going back to my previous question, what build are you currently on? It's more to direct you for backups/recovery options more than anything as before you jump head long into the rooting world it's ALWAYS the best to know how to revert to stock if required

EddyOS said:
As in the build shown in Settings>About phone>Software information, e.g. 2.24.401.8
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Just to confirm, I am yet to obtain the phone.
Once I have it I and I have flashed a 4.3 ROM, I asume I will need to find the compantable firmware and also flash this.

ssjghost said:
Just to confirm, I am yet to obtain the phone.
Once I have it I and I have flashed a 4.3 ROM, I asume I will need to find the compantable firmware and also flash this.
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Recommended YES, needed not always necessary. (and you need s-off for that)
Firmware can be found in @vomer's guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506 (in section 2)

EddyOS said:
The build is linked to the ROM you flash. ARHD is currently based on the recent 3.57.401.500 leak which is Android 4.3 and you'd ideally need the FW to match it but you have to be S-OFF to flash the FW
Going back to my previous question, what build are you currently on? It's more to direct you for backups/recovery options more than anything as before you jump head long into the rooting world it's ALWAYS the best to know how to revert to stock if required
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Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?

ssjghost said:
Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
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No. First thing is:
1. Find build version
2. Find RUU for backup purposes and download if available for your build
3. S-OFF (if possible) and unlock bootloader at the same time
4. Flash custom recovery (through fastboot)
5. Backup current ROM
6. Flash new ROM
7. Flash GAPPs (only if using CyanogenMod/AOSP - they're included in Sense-based ROMs)
8. Flash FW (through fastboot, not recovery)
9. Do anything else you want

ssjghost said:
Gotcha,
So, what's needed is:
Root device
Install Custom Recovery
S-Off and S-CID
Flash Custom Rom
Find and Flash matching FW to ROM
Flash GApps
Flash Xposed Framework
Excluding the obligatory back-ups along the way....Happy days?
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If you get it with hboot 1.44 (pre June 2013), you can first S-Off and unlock bootloader without using HTCdev.

EddyOS said:
No. First thing is:
1. Find build version
2. Find RUU for backup purposes and download if available for your build
3. S-OFF (if possible) and unlock bootloader at the same time
4. Flash custom recovery (through fastboot)
5. Backup current ROM
6. Flash new ROM
7. Flash GAPPs (only if using CyanogenMod/AOSP - they're included in Sense-based ROMs)
8. Flash FW (through fastboot, not recovery)
9. Do anything else you want
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Thanks, and thanks eveyone else. You can probably see from the number of posts Ive made I try and find out stuff before posting so its appreciated not getting flammed when I do!
Thanks for all your help with this and no doubt youll hear from me again when I follow the step by step guides "to the letter" and end up on boot-loop!

Didn't think it would take long before I posted again.
Spent the evening trawling the forum and the CM page but cant seem to find a CM ROM for the international M7? Even a link to the CM site from another site returned a page on CM website but no files? Am I mistaken? Example: http://www.get.cm/?device=m7&type=
So...after yet more searching Im guessing the Pac-Man ROM here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348415 and kernel here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301543 are compatible although it doesn't look like the kernel allows for middle HTC button to become menu. Does anyone know where I can find the firmware?
IGNORE HERE: PRE EDIT - If not, then can anyone advise a lightweight,non-sense ROM (offering 4.2.2 or 4.3), a compatible overclocking and HTC menu button converting kernel and the applicable firmware?

[Q] Need fast answers about HTC ONE, for European market

First, sorry for this tread. I started to read across HTC ONE related treads, but then I give up on the end... just to many informations...
If i had time I'm sure that many if not all this questions are answered somewhere in HTC ONE forum.
I have only one day do decide if I'm going to buy HTC ONE, due to end of special promotion sale (with 24 months binding to my network provider), so I will really appreciate XDA and HTC community help, as I can't go trough all those 100+ treads in one day.
So here are my infos & questions:
I'm only interesting in HTC ONE for the reason that could be converted to Google Edition phone and that it's build quality and design is much better than Nexus 4. I own SE Xperia Ray and Nexus 7 both rooted and slightly modified, but mainly stock, and I love vanilla look and regular updates of Nexus from Gogole. I intend to run HTC ONE few weeks with STOCK and then go for GE.
I live in Slovenia/Europe, so HTC ONE will be bought here. It is SIM unlocked, not operator dependant, but may have some network operator/provider specific programs installed.
So I assume that this is International version of the phone (it's stated, that LTE is supported) and it comes with Android 4.1.2 version presumably not updated.
1.) If it is still on 4.1 Android will I be able to convert it to GE? What if is on 4.2.2 or 4.3? Is there already a correct stock GE rom for EUR version?
2.) Is S-OFF possible and needed also for EU version of ONE? (if yes, this is a must for changing CID, which is needed for a proper GE ROM installation? is my understanding correct?) On HTC site, One can be rooted officially, I assume this is also valid for EUR version. Even rooted phone needs S-OFF? meaning GE ROM cant be flashed? Sorry, S-OFF is something completely new for me (non-existing at Sony or Nexus 7)
3.) Will LTE work properly with GE (GE is for american phones this will be European/International) Are there any other restrictions, that I need to be aware if going for GE (radio versions...)?
4.) How is going back to stock HTC rom (in case of warranty claims)? Is it country specific and can be automatically done with HTC software (like Xperia and Sony PC Companion - Repair phone function) or is there generic ROM (like Google provides for Nexus 7, that can be flashed back. In this case should rom be country specific? Any simple way to dump and backup original stock rom that phone comes with?).
5.) OTA updates from Google. Some threads debating about working OTA, others have remarks that OTA won't work. So is it possible to convert to latest 4.3 GE with working OTA? (I love this feature on Nexus 7, but can be easily broken if some changes are done in root/system)
6.) ONE has 3 physical buttons (capacitive) below screen (not on screen like Nexus phones/tablets). Is GE version adapting those 3 buttons, or there are double buttons (on screen also visible). Is there a fix for that? I'm asking this as I have fully adopted to on "screen buttons" with Nexus 7
7.) Is it safe to assume that there will be also 4.4 KiteKat GE OTA/ROM for HTC ONE?
8.) Any other important stuff that i I'm not aware of it (some programs not working, DRM protection issues for some stock programs, etc)? So is GE convert a full convert or just partial and is better in this case to stick with Nexus phones?
Thank you all for answers in advance!

mirkuma said:
First, sorry for this tread. I started to read across HTC ONE related treads, but then I give up on the end... just to many informations...
If i had time I'm sure that many if not all this questions are answered somewhere in HTC ONE forum.
I have only one day do decide if I'm going to buy HTC ONE, due to end of special promotion sale (with 24 months binding to my network provider), so I will really appreciate XDA and HTC community help, as I can't go trough all those 100+ treads in one day.
So here are my infos & questions:
I'm only interesting in HTC ONE for the reason that could be converted to Google Edition phone and that it's build quality and design is much better than Nexus 4. I own SE Xperia Ray and Nexus 7 both rooted and slightly modified, but mainly stock, and I love vanilla look and regular updates of Nexus from Gogole. I intend to run HTC ONE few weeks with STOCK and then go for GE.
I live in Slovenia/Europe, so HTC ONE will be bought here. It is SIM unlocked, not operator dependant, but may have some network operator/provider specific programs installed.
So I assume that this is International version of the phone (it's stated, that LTE is supported) and it comes with Android 4.1.2 version presumably not updated.
1.) If it is still on 4.1 Android will I be able to convert it to GE? What if is on 4.2.2 or 4.3? Is there already a correct stock GE rom for EUR version?
2.) Is S-OFF possible and needed also for EU version of ONE? (if yes, this is a must for changing CID, which is needed for a proper GE ROM installation? is my understanding correct?) On HTC site, One can be rooted officially, I assume this is also valid for EUR version. Even rooted phone needs S-OFF? meaning GE ROM cant be flashed? Sorry, S-OFF is something completely new for me (non-existing at Sony or Nexus 7)
3.) Will LTE work properly with GE (GE is for american phones this will be European/International) Are there any other restrictions, that I need to be aware if going for GE (radio versions...)?
4.) How is going back to stock HTC rom (in case of warranty claims)? Is it country specific and can be automatically done with HTC software (like Xperia and Sony PC Companion - Repair phone function) or is there generic ROM (like Google provides for Nexus 7, that can be flashed back. In this case should rom be country specific? Any simple way to dump and backup original stock rom that phone comes with?).
5.) OTA updates from Google. Some threads debating about working OTA, others have remarks that OTA won't work. So is it possible to convert to latest 4.3 GE with working OTA? (I love this feature on Nexus 7, but can be easily broken if some changes are done in root/system)
6.) ONE has 3 physical buttons (capacitive) below screen (not on screen like Nexus phones/tablets). Is GE version adapting those 3 buttons, or there are double buttons (on screen also visible). Is there a fix for that? I'm asking this as I have fully adopted to on "screen buttons" with Nexus 7
7.) Is it safe to assume that there will be also 4.4 KiteKat GE OTA/ROM for HTC ONE?
8.) Any other important stuff that i I'm not aware of it (some programs not working, DRM protection issues for some stock programs, etc)? So is GE convert a full convert or just partial and is better in this case to stick with Nexus phones?
Thank you all for answers in advance!
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With the new Rumrunner exploit, the version of HBOOT makes no difference UNLESS IT IS 1.55
S-OFF is definitely needed. It can be achieved with any HBOOT but 1.55 as of today.
Yes LTE will work properly.
If you can find a carrier-specific RUU for your modelid and cid, then you are as good as a stock device.
Can't help you with that one
The One has two active capacitative buttons (by default). Custom kernels enable the use of the HTC logo as a third button. You can always enable on-screen buttons if you prefer them.
I'd say it is safe to assume. Launching a "Google Edition" device and not supporting it for the first "major" update since release would be a disaster...
I'm no expert about the Google Edition but from what I understand it is pretty close to a Nexus device. I'm a big Sense 5 (and 5.5) sellout however and don't really understand why you'd want to do that but it's your choice. The updates still have to come through HTC and do NOT come directly from Google.

Thanks a lot!

attanasi0 said:
With the new Rumrunner exploit, the version of HBOOT makes no difference UNLESS IT IS 1.55
S-OFF is definitely needed. It can be achieved with any HBOOT but 1.55 as of today.
Yes LTE will work properly.
If you can find a carrier-specific RUU for your modelid and cid, then you are as good as a stock device.
Can't help you with that one
The One has two active capacitative buttons (by default). Custom kernels enable the use of the HTC logo as a third button. You can always enable on-screen buttons if you prefer them.
I'd say it is safe to assume. Launching a "Google Edition" device and not supporting it for the first "major" update since release would be a disaster...
I'm no expert about the Google Edition but from what I understand it is pretty close to a Nexus device. I'm a big Sense 5 (and 5.5) sellout however and don't really understand why you'd want to do that but it's your choice. The updates still have to come through HTC and do NOT come directly from Google.
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Thanks a lot!
4.) Is there a way I can backup stock rom, that device comes with (I doubt that i will be able to find my carrier specific RUU)?
8.) I was thinking that HTC only update its own Sense ROM, and Google takes care about Google Edition ROM (so GE will be updated before Sense). But I might try Sense for a while and see if I can accept it.
In case of S-OFF, can new official HTC update or OTA, toggle it to S-ON again?
Most recommended tweaked Sense ROMS, that are smooth as GE?
Thank you.

mirkuma said:
Thanks a lot!
4.) Is there a way I can backup stock rom, that device comes with (I doubt that i will be able to find my carrier specific RUU)?
8.) I was thinking that HTC only update its own Sense ROM, and Google takes care about Google Edition ROM (so GE will be updated before Sense). But I might try Sense for a while and see if I can accept it.
In case of S-OFF, can new official HTC update or OTA, toggle it to S-ON again?
Most recommended tweaked Sense ROMS, that are smooth as GE?
Thank you.
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4) A nandroid backup or RUU is pretty much essential once you start messing around with your phone. In my case, the RUU is not available but I do have a stock nandroid backup
8) Google updates Android and HTC brings it to the one skin-free. There is delay between Nexus releases and Google Edition releases, but it is WAY shorter than with most phones.
For the ROM, I really recommend Android Revolution HD by mike1986. It is smooth, adds cool customization options with the Sense 5 toolbox and simply adds to the HTC experience. F
You won't really need offical HTC updates or OTA if you decide to go with S-OFF. You could always S-ON back to stock but if you update the bootloader in a firmware update and it doesn't allow you to go back to S-OFF, you won't be able to live with yourself

attanasi0 said:
4) A nandroid backup or RUU is pretty much essential once you start messing around with your phone. In my case, the RUU is not available but I do have a stock nandroid backup
8) Google updates Android and HTC brings it to the one skin-free. There is delay between Nexus releases and Google Edition releases, but it is WAY shorter than with most phones.
For the ROM, I really recommend Android Revolution HD by mike1986. It is smooth, adds cool customization options with the Sense 5 toolbox and simply adds to the HTC experience. F
You won't really need offical HTC updates or OTA if you decide to go with S-OFF. You could always S-ON back to stock but if you update the bootloader in a firmware update and it doesn't allow you to go back to S-OFF, you won't be able to live with yourself
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Thank you. I decide to go with HTC One despite, special S-OFF issue, that makes things little more complicated in comparison with other manufacturers (Sony or ASUS Nexus). Xperia Z1f (Honami mini) was my first choice, but unfortunately if will be only available in Asia/Japan, so I will switch to HTC.
Looking forward to playing with the One
Thanks for your help again!

attanasi0 said:
4) A nandroid backup or RUU is pretty much essential once you start messing around with your phone. In my case, the RUU is not available but I do have a stock nandroid backup
8) Google updates Android and HTC brings it to the one skin-free. There is delay between Nexus releases and Google Edition releases, but it is WAY shorter than with most phones.
For the ROM, I really recommend Android Revolution HD by mike1986. It is smooth, adds cool customization options with the Sense 5 toolbox and simply adds to the HTC experience. F
You won't really need offical HTC updates or OTA if you decide to go with S-OFF. You could always S-ON back to stock but if you update the bootloader in a firmware update and it doesn't allow you to go back to S-OFF, you won't be able to live with yourself
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Finally i receive my HTC One (had to exchange the first unit because of the gap in housing).
My HTC One out of the box is:
Android 4.2.2,
Software ver. 2.24.401.8
Kernel: 3.4.10-g28df0d6
Baseband: 4A.17.3250.14:10.39.1150.04L
CID: [HTC__032]
S-ON
HBoot 1.54
I have on question tough:
can I update to 1.3.670597 (small 614 kb update fundamental for a bigger update) and from here to 3.62.401.1 update (678,48 MB, Android 4.3 and Sense 5.5) without S-OFF from the current version?
New update does make HBoot 1.55, but is seems that it is supported by Rumrunner (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496687)
Should I bother with S-OFF now and then take OTA update (will I lose S-OFF after update?) or can I update to 4.3 & Sense 5.5 and then made S-OFF i i decide to go with custom fw?
P.S.
At the moment I'm actually satisfied with stock (very quick and stable, no delays in UI) and will probably not go for custom rom for a while (maybe just with root, to remove some of the bloat-ware).
Thank you for replay in advance.

mirkuma said:
Finally i receive my HTC One (had to exchange the first unit because of the gap in housing).
My HTC One out of the box is:
Android 4.2.2,
Software ver. 2.24.401.8
Kernel: 3.4.10-g28df0d6
Baseband: 4A.17.3250.14:10.39.1150.04L
CID: [HTC__032]
S-ON
HBoot 1.54
I have on question tough:
can I update to 1.3.670597 (small 614 kb update fundamental for a bigger update) and from here to 3.62.401.1 update (678,48 MB, Android 4.3 and Sense 5.5) without S-OFF from the current version?
New update does make HBoot 1.55, but is seems that it is supported by Rumrunner (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2496687)
Should I bother with S-OFF now and then take OTA update (will I lose S-OFF after update?) or can I update to 4.3 & Sense 5.5 and then made S-OFF i i decide to go with custom fw?
P.S.
At the moment I'm actually satisfied with stock (very quick and stable, no delays in UI) and will probably not go for custom rom for a while (maybe just with root, to remove some of the bloat-ware).
Thank you for replay in advance.
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Sorry for the late reply,
I would S-OFF right now using revone as it is much simpler to use. Worst case scenario you relock bootloader and re-enable S-ON.
You will not lose S-OFF. Once you have it, it is yours to keep.

attanasi0 said:
Sorry for the late reply,
I would S-OFF right now using revone as it is much simpler to use. Worst case scenario you relock bootloader and re-enable S-ON.
You will not lose S-OFF. Once you have it, it is yours to keep.
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To the topic: My current hboot is 1.54, I was thinking that revone only works until hdboot 1.44.
What about options for removing TEMPERED, UNLOCKED messages from boot -loader (I’m little confused here, there are so many treads and options which may work, or may not, including flashing parts of firmware..etc..Seems dangerous to me)?
If my understanding is correct, I need to unlock boot-loader, root, and then S-OFF....but after that to be able to update trough OTA (to Android 4.3/Sense 5.5 stock), I must revert all the changes made (excluding S-OFF), if I wish that OTA will be successful (again I’m not sure if there actually is RUU.exe for my current version of software and using nandroid online or CWM /TWRP recovery for backup again involves a lot of work after for going back to stock).
At the moment seems too much work for me, that’s why I was asking if updating to 4.3/5.5 hdboot 1.55 makes more sense, and only if I decide to try some custom rom, going towards S-OFF direction...
But still, I'm not completely sure, if I understand correctly how to remove red messages in boot loader (unlocked, tempered...etc) and how hard or dangerous is it.
What I’m thinking at the moment is:
Go to 4.3/5.5 wia OTA, and use it for a while, than make unlock, root, s-off and install TWRP, and make backup. Then remove some not needed apps (Facebook, Tweeter, Stocks...). In case of need returning back to stock (warranty repair in case of hardware failure, new OTA for stock, etc), use TWRP to restore back and then somehow revert all the changes after (unlock, unroot, factory recovery…). So what are my available options with my current / updated version? Is this easier to achieve if I do all this on hboot 1.54 and 4.22 android or can be also done under hdboot 1.55 and 4.3?
P.S.
But you were correct with your comments about Sense, it's not bad at all. I starting to like Sense UI, so maybe going towards Google Edition will not be needed at all.

mirkuma said:
To the topic: My current hboot is 1.54, I was thinking that revone only works until hdboot 1.44.
What about options for removing TEMPERED, UNLOCKED messages from boot -loader (I’m little confused here, there are so many treads and options which may work, or may not, including flashing parts of firmware..etc..Seems dangerous to me)?
If my understanding is correct, I need to unlock boot-loader, root, and then S-OFF....but after that to be able to update trough OTA (to Android 4.3/Sense 5.5 stock), I must revert all the changes made (excluding S-OFF), if I wish that OTA will be successful (again I’m not sure if there actually is RUU.exe for my current version of software and using nandroid online or CWM /TWRP recovery for backup again involves a lot of work after for going back to stock).
At the moment seems too much work for me, that’s why I was asking if updating to 4.3/5.5 hdboot 1.55 makes more sense, and only if I decide to try some custom rom, going towards S-OFF direction...
But still, I'm not completely sure, if I understand correctly how to remove red messages in boot loader (unlocked, tempered...etc) and how hard or dangerous is it.
What I’m thinking at the moment is:
Go to 4.3/5.5 wia OTA, and use it for a while, than make unlock, root, s-off and install TWRP, and make backup. Then remove some not needed apps (Facebook, Tweeter, Stocks...). In case of need returning back to stock (warranty repair in case of hardware failure, new OTA for stock, etc), use TWRP to restore back and then somehow revert all the changes after (unlock, unroot, factory recovery…). So what are my available options with my current / updated version? Is this easier to achieve if I do all this on hboot 1.54 and 4.22 android or can be also done under hdboot 1.55 and 4.3?
P.S.
But you were correct with your comments about Sense, it's not bad at all. I starting to like Sense UI, so maybe going towards Google Edition will not be needed at all.
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It's up to you really. HBOOT 1.55 is now compatible with Rumrunner so upgrade away. Once you have S-OFF, you also get SuperCID, which gives access to all ROMs and firmwares (included stock ones, that are usually available here before the carriers even start testing). The Tampered flag is in fastboot, it is not linked to the red writing. To remove the red writing you must flash a custom firmware.
The easiness of going back to stock after having unlocked the bootloader and etc depends on the availability of RUUs and/or S-OFF.

attanasi0 said:
The easiness of going back to stock after having unlocked the bootloader and etc depends on the availability of RUUs and/or S-OFF.
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Looking this:
http://www.htc1guru.com/downloads/ruu-file-downloads/ -> RUU M7 UL JB 50 HTC Europe 1.20.401.1 Radio 4A.13.3227.06 10.27.1127.01 Release 308001 Signed 2 4
It seems that my RUU.exe path is open? This seems to be 4.1.2 version of RUU with older radio, but it should give me OTA option to 2.24.401.8 (Android 4.2.2/Sense 5.0) and then OTA again to 3.62.401.1 (Android 4.3/Sense 5.5).
Can you please confirm this? Do I have a valid "easy" RUU.exe backup/downgrade path?
Thanks?
P.S.
There are some notes about touch not working properly going downgrade path to old firmware...will I be able to accept OTA anyway?

mirkuma said:
Looking this:
http://www.htc1guru.com/downloads/ruu-file-downloads/ -> RUU M7 UL JB 50 HTC Europe 1.20.401.1 Radio 4A.13.3227.06 10.27.1127.01 Release 308001 Signed 2 4
It seems that my RUU.exe path is open? This seems to be 4.1.2 version of RUU with older radio, but it should give me OTA option to 2.24.401.8 (Android 4.2.2/Sense 5.0) and then OTA again to 3.62.401.1 (Android 4.3/Sense 5.5).
Can you please confirm this? Do I have a valid "easy" RUU.exe backup/downgrade path?
Thanks?
P.S.
There are some notes about touch not working properly going downgrade path to old firmware...will I be able to accept OTA anyway?
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Once you are S-OFF, you can downgrade using an RUU (since you should have SuperCID as well); meaning you can't be "stuck" S-OFF. S-OFF allows you to "factory lock" the bootloader (instead of "relock"), remove the "tampered" sign and flash the latest firmwares.
The RUU you found, while valid, would only work if you were S-OFF as it's older than the software on you HTC One right now. HTC1Guru has stock ROMs that include recovery for pretty much any firmware if for some reason you don't like RUUs or don't wanna go S-OFF but still want to flash ROMs.
Touch works starting at 2.24 and it simply doesn't work in Recovery, meaning you have to use the volume keys.

[Q] HTC One w ARHD12 - how to get Three's 4G update?

OK, so about 9 months ago I rooted my Three branded HTC one, installed CWM recovery and put ARHD12 on there and it's been brilliant. Three are now rolling out the 4G radio updates which as far as I understand is entirely separate to any ROM such as ARHD. So how do I get the radio update? Do I have to go back to stock? If so, now's the time to confess I didn't take a backup before I installed ARHD. So I guess I need the most recent Three RUU - do I have to remove CWM before I install it? I'm not a n00b - I managed to do this on my own last time and I'm fairly technically competent. The only problem I have now is one of time - I can't spend an entire day figuring stuff out due to the 9-month old bundle of joy that requires a fair bit of attention! If you can help me with a fairly simple outline of what to do in what order, that would be very much appreciated. Cheers!

ShadowTD said:
OK, so about 9 months ago I rooted my Three branded HTC one, installed CWM recovery and put ARHD12 on there and it's been brilliant. Three are now rolling out the 4G radio updates which as far as I understand is entirely separate to any ROM such as ARHD. So how do I get the radio update? Do I have to go back to stock? If so, now's the time to confess I didn't take a backup before I installed ARHD. So I guess I need the most recent Three RUU - do I have to remove CWM before I install it? I'm not a n00b - I managed to do this on my own last time and I'm fairly technically competent. The only problem I have now is one of time - I can't spend an entire day figuring stuff out due to the 9-month old bundle of joy that requires a fair bit of attention! If you can help me with a fairly simple outline of what to do in what order, that would be very much appreciated. Cheers!
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You will have to return completely to stock. That means everything must be as it was out of the box. As for the ruu for your carrier, if they released it then it should be in one of the stickies.
Bat cave One

I'm on Three in the UK and before I flashed a custom ROM I made sure I got S-Off then flashed the latest unbranded firmware(FUU_4.19.401.9-TWRP2633_combined_nowipe.exe which I got from XDA) and then changed my CID to SuperCID. After that I flashed custom ROM without flashing a stock ROM. LTE/4G works perfectly ok.

heat57 said:
I'm on Three in the UK and before I flashed a custom ROM I made sure I got S-Off then flashed the latest unbranded firmware(FUU_4.19.401.9-TWRP2633_combined_nowipe.exe which I got from XDA) and then changed my CID to SuperCID. After that I flashed custom ROM without flashing a stock ROM. LTE/4G works perfectly ok.
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Thanks Heat57. I'm currently S-On, Unlocked, Tampered. I've also found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419699
which seems to contain all of the radio files in the world, and also all of the firmware. This radio:
(1.29.401.12 WWE OTA) Radio_4A.14.3250.13_10.33.1150.01L
Looks interested, but you say you never flashed your radio? When did you get your one?
I'm thinking from your post I'm going to get S-OFF (using Revone, yes?) and flash a firmware to see if the 4G radio options show up. I can't see the one you mentioned - could you recommend one from the above thread? Also, it says TWRP - I'm using CWM - is that a problem?
Final question - if I do a backup I'm backing up the radio and firmware as well? So if I make a total plums of this I can get back to CWM and restore?
TIA for any further help you can give me

ShadowTD said:
Thanks Heat57. I'm currently S-On, Unlocked, Tampered. I've also found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419699
which seems to contain all of the radio files in the world, and also all of the firmware. This radio:
(1.29.401.12 WWE OTA) Radio_4A.14.3250.13_10.33.1150.01L
Looks interested, but you say you never flashed your radio? When did you get your one?
I'm thinking from your post I'm going to get S-OFF (using Revone, yes?) and flash a firmware to see if the 4G radio options show up. I can't see the one you mentioned - could you recommend one from the above thread? Also, it says TWRP - I'm using CWM - is that a problem?
Final question - if I do a backup I'm backing up the radio and firmware as well? So if I make a total plums of this I can get back to CWM and restore?
TIA for any further help you can give me
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Well, I flashed the firmware, which amongst other hardware bits includes the radio. My first goal was to unlock the bootloader and then S-Off, as the latter removes any potential issues with firmware flashes and the like. I also went and changed CID to 11111111, which I understand is SuperCID and enables flashing of firmware and ROMs of different CID designations. Please beware, YOU MUST BE S-OFF FOR FIRMWARE FLASHING!!!
Regarding your question of revone, if you're on hboot 1.44 then yes, revone, hboot version 1.54 and 1.55 only work with rumrunner and latest versions require the 'firewater' exploit.
I am relatively new to HTC, although I owned an original Desire many years ago, so I still remember the peculiarities of HTC ROM. I had a Galaxy Note 2 and rooting and flashing ROMs there is a piece of cake by comparison. I digress.
Unlike most other manufacturers, where you get everything included in the custom ROM, it seems with HTC that is not the case, hence if you want to update your radio for example, you need to flash a firmware package. Therefore, I am not certain if a Nandroid would restore the firmware, if you encounter any problems, maybe someone more knowledgeable can confirm. In any event, if you're S-Off then flashing any firmware for the M7ul should work, so worst case, if you mess up you could always flash the one I pointed out via adb. Here is a link to the latest firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2485651
Regarding the recovery, I just prefer TWRP and use the one but last version 2.6.3.4, which works perfectly. #However, there is no reason why your CWM should not be adequate. Before I took the jump, after just receiving my One, I read through the threads for about a day to make sure I got it right.
Finally, if you end up rooted and S-Off then there is a supper little flashable zip called 'Guru_Bootloade_Reset_1.0.zip' that allows you to remove the tampered flag, relock the bootloader and unlock it again by simply flashing it and selecting what you want in it's aroma installer. You'll find it on XDA as well, justuse the search function.

Where to find my phone's Firmware Version?

So I'm about to update my firmware to the latest (5.05.651.2) and I'm wondering if I can some how tell if I already have installed it. I always try to stay up to date and I just noticed that the Rom Version my phone is showing is 5.03.651.3 I was reading through the firmware thread and it said that when I go to Settings > About > Rom Version or Build Number, this number is populated by the ROM you are using. I am using Bad Boys Sense 6 V1.0. I also know that I've updated radios individually in the past. So is there a safe way to tell whether or not I've installed the 5.05.651.2 firmware? I'm s-off, so I would have installed the modified version if I've already done it.

If I remember right, it shows it in the bootloader. However, since you are s-off, why not just download the latest and reflash it to be sure? I personally use the full firmware, but you'll need to reflash TWRP (or your custom recovery of choice) afterward if you do. Get the firmware here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795856

copekyle said:
So I'm about to update my firmware to the latest (5.05.651.2) and I'm wondering if I can some how tell if I already have installed it. I always try to stay up to date and I just noticed that the Rom Version my phone is showing is 5.03.651.3 I was reading through the firmware thread and it said that when I go to Settings > About > Rom Version or Build Number, this number is populated by the ROM you are using. I am using Bad Boys Sense 6 V1.0. I also know that I've updated radios individually in the past. So is there a safe way to tell whether or not I've installed the 5.05.651.2 firmware? I'm s-off, so I would have installed the modified version if I've already done it.
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[Q] How to update firmware?

Hi,
I have been using Cyanogenmod, pretty much since I got my phone. I am tired of the non-working stuff and bugs in it and want to go back to stock, but I have no idea how to go about it. I used the CM auto installer method and I have no backup of my original system. TBH I want to flash ViperOne now, but they require the latest firmware, but mine is very old (I think it was 1.x). I have really no idea where to start and how to go about upgrading the firmware. I was not able to get S-Off .
About 2 weeks ago I downloaded a RUU package from a site looking like an official HTC one, but have no idea what can be the damages of running it. It is just a 1.5G .exe.
My questions are:
What will happen if the RUU is not for my CID and MID?
If I just run this RUU, is there any chance to brick my phone (I am still S-On)?
Will this update my firmware version?
If the process is successful, will I be able to flash ViperOne without S-Off then?
I also found this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428276, but have no idea what to download. My phone is unlocked from Hong Kong, but I am using it in Europe (if that information is even necessary).
Any help and pointers are welcome.
Thank you!
Update: After hopping from link to link here, I now cannot see a problem to download the latest RUU .zip for any region, edit the android-info.txt so that it matches my CID and MID numbers and flash it on my device. I read that I do not need S-Off if my firmware version is lower that the one in the RUU. Will this work? Will I have OTA that way?
Thanks