Database Develop

[Q] Bootloader and mechanics.

Hi everyone,
I have been using android for a couple of years now but first reasontly I got an interest for modifying the software.
After reading numerous of hours on the forums I still have´nt found a thread giving me all the answers for the bootloader setup and what do the different statements mean for you and your phone.
Ex. my One´s bootloader says following:
TAMPERED - Is this good or bad?
UNLOCKED - Why has it not gone back to locked after I flashed a custom ROM and why is S-ON back again.
S-ON - Any danger by keeping this S-OFF all the time? Before I flashed I believe it said "S-ON RL" Now it says S-ON RH?
HBOOT - Any good reasons to mess with this?
RADIO - Same question as above.
xtra:
OpenDSP-v26.120.276.0202 - Whats this?`
eMMC-boot - Whats this?
The date written is the date it was flashed by the vendor?
Thanks for any answers and I hope someone can help me clear my head!

Groovi80 said:
Hi everyone,
I have been using android for a couple of years now but first reasontly I got an interest for modifying the software.
After reading numerous of hours on the forums I still have´nt found a thread giving me all the answers for the bootloader setup and what do the different statements mean for you and your phone.
Ex. my One´s bootloader says following:
TAMPERED - Is this good or bad?
UNLOCKED - Why has it not gone back to locked after I flashed a custom ROM and why is S-ON back again.
S-ON - Any danger by keeping this S-OFF all the time? Before I flashed I believe it said "S-ON RL" Now it says S-ON RH?
HBOOT - Any good reasons to mess with this?
RADIO - Same question as above.
xtra:
OpenDSP-v26.120.276.0202 - Whats this?`
eMMC-boot - Whats this?
The date written is the date it was flashed by the vendor?
Thanks for any answers and I hope someone can help me clear my head!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Tampered means you have unsigned software running on your device
Unlocked means you unlocked you bootloader and won't change back until you relock it, and s-on will stay s-on unless you s-off your device
Stay s-on if you don't know the benefits of s-off, it increases your chance of bricking the device
Hboot-you couldn't mess with it if you wanted without s-off, don't mess with it
Radio-It's just best to stay with your stock radio firmware
Those others are just information about the device. Not really sure. These are things you need not worry about, just keep on flashing roms and you will be fine.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

superchilpil said:
Tampered means you have unsigned software running on your device
Unlocked means you unlocked you bootloader and won't change back until you relock it, and s-on will stay s-on unless you s-off your device
Stay s-on if you don't know the benefits of s-off, it increases your chance of bricking the device
Hboot-you couldn't mess with it if you wanted without s-off, don't mess with it
Radio-It's just best to stay with your stock radio firmware
Those others are just information about the device. Not really sure. These are things you need not worry about, just keep on flashing roms and you will be fine.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the fast reply Superchillpill.
I am using Trickdroid ROM, so this has to be signed by who in order to remove the TAMPERED from my phone?
Is there any point relocking the bootloader?
And do I not need to S-OFF again in order to flash another custom ROM?

Groovi80 said:
Thanks for the fast reply Superchillpill.
I am using Trickdroid ROM, so this has to be signed by who in order to remove the TAMPERED from my phone?
Is there any point relocking the bootloader?
And do I not need to S-OFF again in order to flash another custom ROM?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By HTC, the tampered isn't going to go away basically. Unless you s-off your device
No there isn't any point, you need an unlocked bootloader to flash custom roms.
S-off is not needed with an unlocked bootloader
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

eMMC-boot, if I'm not mistaken, means the phone has booted from its onboard system rather than fastboot boot mode. This is something you don't need to worry about unless you're a developer or advanced user.
Open DSP is the digital signal processing framework. Again, nothing you need to worry about unless you're a dev.

[Q] S-OFF Through HTC Dev with 1.54 Firmware

Hi guys,
just one quick question. I have my phone stuck in S-ON after upgrading into new firmware (HBOOT 1.54). It is clear that revone (the one I used to S-OFF the first time) is currently unable to S-OFF my phone right now. Therefore now I'm considering S-OFF through HTC Dev. Will HTC Dev S-OFF work with 1.54 HBOOT?
Another question would be, apart from getting wiped and lose some application, what disadvantage will S-OFF through HTC Dev brings?
Thanks for the help

you can unlock the bootloader and install custom roms/kernels but no s-off, which might be a problem if you need to send your phone to warranty because they could deny warranty on the re/unlocked status of the bootloader.

flamechamp said:
Hi guys,
just one quick question. I have my phone stuck in S-ON after upgrading into new firmware (HBOOT 1.54). It is clear that revone (the one I used to S-OFF the first time) is currently unable to S-OFF my phone right now. Therefore now I'm considering S-OFF through HTC Dev. Will HTC Dev S-OFF work with 1.54 HBOOT?
Another question would be, apart from getting wiped and lose some application, what disadvantage will S-OFF through HTC Dev brings?
Thanks for the help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Why did you s-on in the first place? You can't s-off, you're stuck for now. HTC Dev can only unlock your bootloader.

redbull123 said:
Why did you s-on in the first place? You can't s-off, you're stuck for now. HTC Dev can only unlock your bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't S-ON it on purpose. It went S-ON automatically after firmware update and few resets. I have no slightest idea why it went S-ON. So... it seems I'm doomed for now...

godutch said:
you can unlock the bootloader and install custom roms/kernels but no s-off, which might be a problem if you need to send your phone to warranty because they could deny warranty on the re/unlocked status of the bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
how am I suppose to install custom ROMs when I'm S-On now? I can't even flash custom recovery right?

flamechamp said:
how am I suppose to install custom ROMs when I'm S-On now? I can't even flash custom recovery right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
with htc dev unlock bootloader method you can, you dont need s-off to flash custom recovery and roms.
I know that could be somewhat confusing, but seems like you did not read enough

flamechamp said:
Hi guys,
just one quick question. I have my phone stuck in S-ON after upgrading into new firmware (HBOOT 1.54). It is clear that revone (the one I used to S-OFF the first time) is currently unable to S-OFF my phone right now. Therefore now I'm considering S-OFF through HTC Dev. Will HTC Dev S-OFF work with 1.54 HBOOT?
Another question would be, apart from getting wiped and lose some application, what disadvantage will S-OFF through HTC Dev brings?
Thanks for the help
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah the word is devs are workingbpn that but I heard still long time away

SLver said:
with htc dev unlock bootloader method you can, you dont need s-off to flash custom recovery and roms.
I know that could be somewhat confusing, but seems like you did not read enough
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any links maybe? Because as far as I know I need custom recovery to flash ROMs and to install custom recovery S-OFF is needed.
99piotrek said:
Yeah the word is devs are workingbpn that but I heard still long time away
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I do hope the REVOLUTIONARY team finishes their work quickly...

flamechamp said:
Any links maybe? Because as far as I know I need custom recovery to flash ROMs and to install custom recovery S-OFF is needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With the HTC ONE toolkit you can unlock your bootloader and flash a custom recovery.
Very easy. I'm in the same situation at this moment. hboot 1.54.
I also got a question about this.
When I'm in the toolkit and I want to use the mainver error fix I always get Device not Found. Is this also because i'm on hboot 1.54 or maybe not a correct setting somwhere (adb?).

haenraets said:
With the HTC ONE toolkit you can unlock your bootloader and flash a custom recovery.
Very easy. I'm in the same situation at this moment. hboot 1.54.
I also got a question about this.
When I'm in the toolkit and I want to use the mainver error fix I always get Device not Found. Is this also because i'm on hboot 1.54 or maybe not a correct setting somwhere (adb?).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh but I must unlock my RELOCKED bootloader to install the recovery right?

flamechamp said:
Oh but I must unlock my RELOCKED bootloader to install the recovery right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes... That is correct and once you unlock it you can use the all in one kit to flash a recovery and then you can flash the rom of your choice
Sent from my ViperOne

flamechamp said:
Oh but I must unlock my RELOCKED bootloader to install the recovery right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, and you can do this with the toolkit.

leohdz148 said:
Yes... That is correct and once you unlock it you can use the all in one kit to flash a recovery and then you can flash the rom of your choice
Sent from my ViperOne
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haenraets said:
Yes, and you can do this with the toolkit.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But through the toolkit, the unlocking process will use the HTC Dev method which erases the phone's internal memory and some part which contains some apps right? Any other cons which shouldn't I unlock through HTC Dev?

Here it is but be careful
flamechamp said:
Any links maybe? Because as far as I know I need custom recovery to flash ROMs and to install custom recovery S-OFF is needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go there, register an account
http://www.htcdev.com/
after that click on the "developer center" button and right in the middle you will find a "unlock bootloader" button
click on it, follow instructions, but make sure you have a full backup of your storage cause it will be erased
S-OFF is a security flag that gives you permission to "play" with organic partitions of the devices system in a way
you don't need it for having custom recovery, after you unlock you can flash a recovery the exact same way you did with S-OFF or restore a backup you did before reverting to complete stock
S-OFF for most users is only a solution to not losing warranty after unlocking as unlocking actually voids your software warranty and in a way the hardware warranty as HTC can claim that the unofficial software you used actually damaged the device.
If I helped to make you understand in any way I am glad but please if you don't understand what these procedures do or how they work in a general sense it's better not to use/perform them, if you are in any way like me who spent the better part of a salary to buy this phone it would be a shame wasting all that money bricking it out of ignorance, if not, it's still a shame.

flamechamp said:
But through the toolkit, the unlocking process will use the HTC Dev method which erases the phone's internal memory and some part which contains some apps right? Any other cons which shouldn't I unlock through HTC Dev?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea it wipes everything so I suggest you back up anything important to you before you unlock... And there aren't any other cons except the fact that it will wipe EVERYTHING (apps, contacts synced with phone, music, pictures, etc.), thats the only con to it
Sent from my ViperOne

I think there is some confusion here for the OP.
First, S-off and unlocking your bootloader are 2 completely different things. To install custom recoveries, and therefore custom Roms and kernels, you need an unlocked bootloader (I am not sue what all the talk of relocking was about). The only way for you to unlock at this point is with HTCdev, and this will wipe your device unfortunately. Their are guides to unlocking and rooting your phone in this very forum

dgtiii said:
I think there is some confusion here for the OP.
First, S-off and unlocking your bootloader are 2 completely different things. To install custom recoveries, and therefore custom Roms and kernels, you need an unlocked bootloader (I am not sue what all the talk of relocking was about). The only way for you to unlock at this point is with HTCdev, and this will wipe your device unfortunately. Their are guides to unlocking and rooting your phone in this very forum
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I got things mixed up. I got so frustrated with S-ON such that I forgot that the real problem is the RELOCKED status of my phone. Thanks for reminding me
But i do need S-OFF to flash splash screen right?

flamechamp said:
Yes, I got things mixed up. I got so frustrated with S-ON such that I forgot that the real problem is the RELOCKED status of my phone. Thanks for reminding me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, glad to help.....

flamechamp said:
Yes, I got things mixed up. I got so frustrated with S-ON such that I forgot that the real problem is the RELOCKED status of my phone. Thanks for reminding me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
??? There was no talk from anyone about 'relocking'. You were told about 5 times you had to unlock your bootloader.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium 4

redbull123 said:
??? There was no talk from anyone about 'relocking'. You were told about 5 times you had to unlock your bootloader.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no, I got it relocked to update my firmware last time. But can't have it unlocked now. But now I know that using HTC Dev method, it will be solved.
But I do need S-OFF to flash splash screen right?

[Q] Where do I start?

So here's the deal: I bought a HTC ONE back when it was released and I've enjoyed every minute of it, I loved the stock rom - it was smooth and worked like a charm. I have a lot of experience with flashing ROMS, had quite a few HTC phones before this one, but so far haven't tried ANYTHING with the ONE.
I got the update to the latest Android and I noticed there's something about HBOOT 1.44 vs. 1.54 - I checked and I have the 4.2.2 ROM running HBOOT 1.54.
I really want to get into custom roms and start testing a few out; but I have no idea where to start.
Normally I'd pick a guide and work the steps but I'm hesitant now that I've read bits and pieces about this HBOOT thing - I'm not sure what I means, why people are bummed out because they have 1.54 (which I have).
So yeah, I have no idea where to start. Can somebody give me a rundown, some guidelines, what does HBOOT 1.54 mean for me, where do I start?
Thanks,
Michiel.

From what I've read, having HBOOT 1.54 basically means that you can't S-off your device (as this is only available for 1.44). This means that you won't have access to deeper customisation for your phone (flashing different firmware and changing CID). CID determines what region your phone belongs to so this translates to how early you can get official OTA's as some regions get updates earlier than others. Also, if you want to fully transform your phone into a Google Edition HTC One, this is only open to units with a specific CID.
As for firmware, not really clear on what the differences between firmwares are but you can still flash different radios which are a component of firmwares (thus getting some of the benefits of newer firmware anyway).
That being said, you can flash the whole range of custom ROMs and kernels available on these forums provided that you've unlocked your boot loader. Directions for this can be found on the HTC website.
If you want an optimised stock ROM, try ARHD Sense which is basically your stock ROM with many performance improvements (especially when it comes to signal). For more customisation on Sense, you can try ViperOne.
Honestly there are so many excellent ROMs here that you can easily lose days trying every single one. The Google Edition ROMs are excellent too.
Hope this helps!
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Thank you both for detailed replies! This helped me ease my mind on the HBOOT-thing. Thanks!

What no one mentioned is that S-off allows you to remove the ****Tampered**** flag from the boot loader.
With S-off you can lock the boot loader. (With S-on it will show Re-Locked)
With S-off you can flash any RUU to return to stock. Without it you can only flash RUU's that match your CID and are newer than your current firmware.
These may not be important to you, but they're good to know before you jump in.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Michiel0211 said:
So here's the deal: I bought a HTC ONE back when it was released and I've enjoyed every minute of it, I loved the stock rom - it was smooth and worked like a charm. I have a lot of experience with flashing ROMS, had quite a few HTC phones before this one, but so far haven't tried ANYTHING with the ONE.
I got the update to the latest Android and I noticed there's something about HBOOT 1.44 vs. 1.54 - I checked and I have the 4.2.2 ROM running HBOOT 1.54.
I really want to get into custom roms and start testing a few out; but I have no idea where to start.
Normally I'd pick a guide and work the steps but I'm hesitant now that I've read bits and pieces about this HBOOT thing - I'm not sure what I means, why people are bummed out because they have 1.54 (which I have).
So yeah, I have no idea where to start. Can somebody give me a rundown, some guidelines, what does HBOOT 1.54 mean for me, where do I start?
Thanks,
Michiel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All you have to do is unlock your bootloader via htcdev.com (note, this will wipe your data) and then flash a custom recovery. You can use this tool http://d-h.st/mas to simplify the process.

CoryTallman said:
What no one mentioned is that S-off allows you to remove the ****Tampered**** flag from the boot loader.
With S-off you can lock the boot loader. (With S-on it will show Re-Locked)
With S-off you can flash any RUU to return to stock. Without it you can only flash RUU's that match your CID and are newer than your current firmware.
These may not be important to you, but they're good to know before you jump in.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh sweet I think I found something helpful. I just got my HTC one 6 days ago. I'm s-off so no tampered tag. Do I need to change my cid to flash any ruu? Do I need s-on to flash ruu's? I'm with Rogers in Canada. No RUU for me but there are ota's. Can I flash a different ruu and then the Rogers ota to bring be back to stock? I have s off can I leave it off so if the hboot gets updated by a future ota it will be ok? Thanks for any help.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

sixty_oz said:
Oh sweet I think I found something helpful. I just got my HTC one 6 days ago. I'm s-off so no tampered tag. Do I need to change my cid to flash any ruu? Do I need s-on to flash ruu's? I'm with Rogers in Canada. No RUU for me but there are ota's. Can I flash a different ruu and then the Rogers ota to bring be back to stock? I have s off can I leave it off so if the hboot gets updated by a future ota it will be ok? Thanks for any help.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No matter what, you should stay s-off, it does not affect OTA's or RUU's in any way whatsoever. To flash any RUU, you need to be with a cid of 11111111
It's not possible for you to flash an ruu for something else and then flash the rogers ota I don't think

Root my new HTC One

Hey Guys,
I just received my new HTC One. Before i just had Samsung Phones (S3,Note 2,S4,Note3..) and I have no experience on HTC with unlock,root etc..
I just want to:
-Root phone
-Install Custom rom
what is the best way for doing this? I have read that there are methods to root my phone without unlock it with HTCDev. Is that right?
Deatils about my Phone:
HTC One Intl - Hboot Version 1.55.0000

Extended2108 said:
Hey Guys,
I just received my new HTC One. Before i just had Samsung Phones (S3,Note 2,S4,Note3..) and I have no experience on HTC with unlock,root etc..
I just want to:
-Root phone
-Install Custom rom
what is the best way for doing this? I have read that there are methods to root my phone without unlock it with HTCDev. Is that right?
Deatils about my Phone:
HTC One Intl - Hboot Version 1.55.0000
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're going to have to use HTCdev to unlock; on hboot 1.44 you could do it with revone, but not on 1.55

nkk71 said:
You're going to have to use HTCdev to unlock; on hboot 1.44 you could do it with revone, but not on 1.55
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! :good:
That means, that i lose warranty if i unlock via HTCDev, right?

Extended2108 said:
Thanks! :good:
That means, that i lose warranty if i unlock via HTCDev, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No you shouldn't loose warranty, just requesting a unlock tocken, doesnt actually mean you used it (if they actually bother checking??), and there are quite a few guides to go back to 100% stock (including my guide, in my signature... shameless advertising )

This is where I started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus

mitchst2 said:
This is where I started
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's a good guide, but now that the newer tools are out, you can even remove TAMPERED and set to LOCKED not relocked.

Agreed but he has to start somewhere and it's as handy a guide as any.
Sent from my HTC O'ne-xus

I sucesfully rooted my phone. Thanks to you all

nkk71 said:
No you shouldn't loose warranty, just requesting a unlock tocken, doesnt actually mean you used it (if they actually bother checking??), and there are quite a few guides to go back to 100% stock (including my guide, in my signature... shameless advertising )
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
totally correct... no provider or manufacture cares esp htcdev... i had to return my on 3 different times all were unlocked and they never bothered to check. It was because of the camera too. I returned the phone 3 times to sprint they didnt care at all... the last time i didnt even bother returning it to stock. When i got my 4th phone and saw taht the camera was still **** i wrote a letter to htc and sent it to them... they replaced it and never ever ever questioned me why it was unlocked.

Beginner rooting questions

Hey all, I recently acquired an HTC one m7 and I previously had an xperia z1. I had unlocked the bootloader and rooted my previous phone but coming to m7's page I've found that there are many things new here. First is the S-Off business.
I basically wanted to ask if there's a specific order in which I should go. For example S-off first, then root then unlock bootloader or anything like that.
And secondly, for the xperia line, there was a tool called Flashtool that basically did all the things you need to unlock/root your phone. I was wondering if there's something like that for the One M7 so that I can flash stock firmware if need be.
Also, I'm on kitkat 4.4.3 HBOOT 2.49 so should I keep some things in mind?
Also, what is CID?
Sorry for so many questions, any help is appreciated
Thank you!

uhh, I will tell you what i know here related to your questions.
Firstly, if you want to customize your phone, first thing is to unlock your bootloader which is easy to do. Then you need to flash a custom recovery. After that you can do what you like.as to s-off, if you don't have special requirements,I think it's not a must step.
Secondly,there is indeed a tool for htc one.you may find it in one's development forum.
May that help you!
来自我的 HTC M8Et 上的 Tapatalk

If I unlock bootloader before S-off, will I be able to get back "UNLOCKED" status or will it be "RELOCKED"

ggnoobteam said:
If I unlock bootloader before S-off, will I be able to get back "UNLOCKED" status or will it be "RELOCKED"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah you can get back to full locked status, but only with s-off, be careful though, theres not alot about for the dual sim really, you can pretty much find everything in the general section for the dual. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495697
I think for your HBOOT, use Rumrunner to s-off. http://rumrunner.us/
EDIT: sorry for your HBOOT version you needed to use firewater s-off tool, but as thats discontinued, you'll have to try sunshine s-off tool which will cost $25 if it can s-off your device, it will run some checks first, if it can then you pay and it proceeds, if it cant it will let you know why and you dont pay: http://theroot.ninja/
if I remember correctly, CID is carrier identification.
the main things that matter, and that you need to take note of it your planning on changing them are CID, MID, HBOOT version and OS or version main (same thing really)