Why hasnt anyone tried the z1 with at&t!!! - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?

teamHTC said:
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Are in in the USA?
If you're not under contract, I'd just get a Straightalk t-mobile sim. What Straightalk does is " rent" other carriers networks, includung both AT&T and T-mobile. Straightalk doesn't support LTE. With T-mobile' awesome HSPA+42 speeds and great coverage, you won't miss LTE, plus it's only $45 bucks a month. HSPA+42 is really close to LTE but with better coverage. One of the joys of having an unlocked phone is freedom to choose a cheap carrier.
The reason T-mobile doesn't suck as much as it used to is because of the failed merger of AT&T and T-mobile. It gave them extra money to upgrade their network and more bands.
It seems there is a model that supports AT&T LTE, the C6906, but don't count me on it. Refer to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438443&page=2
If you end up getting a z1 model c6903 which doesn't have LTE on AT&T, and must have AT&T, I'd again recommend a straightalk AT&T sim so you are not paying for LTE which the c6903 can't use. On AT&T HSPA+21 is the fastest you'll get.
If you're close to the end of your contract, I'd just get a C6903 and switch when you finish out the contract.

you will get hspa+ but no lte

That is on AT&T.. On T-Mobile, you can get LTE!

teamHTC said:
I am literally loosing sleep over the z1 ready to buy it but just weary of the fact that it wont support lte in my area.. what can I do?
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Maybe if you searched before making new thread you would have seen that there are at least 3 threads on this topic, which have all answered you question.

I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?

komugi said:
I think the question is, has anyone actually seen a C6906 variant?
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yeah, im just wondering if this even exists. if not then ill go ahead and purchase my z1, because I just prefer the design and quality over any at&t phone and although lte is a big deal, hey im an android guy ill get over it in 2 months when a new phone comes out and I sell it. LOL and as for the galaxy active.......HIDEOUS HIDEOUS HIDEOUS! ill take a z1 with no internet at all over a gs active ....why samsung.... WHY! you make beautiful tvs but why the ugly phones!!!!!

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What US network are you on if you have unlocked note?

I saw a deal for an unlocked "world" version of the note and I am on TmoUS. So if I buy the note, will I be able to use my unlimited data plan with 3g or H? I am confused reading the forums on the att side and this one...they're saying I can only get edge? Because that would really suck.
I'm on tapatalk and can't do a decent search on xda via app so if this had been asked already, just point me to that thread and I will gladly have this one deleted. Also, the desire to get the unlocked note is a spur of the moment kinda thing since the deal is only available for one day. Btw, unlocked note is selling for 585 with shipping from 1saleaday.
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what they said is right you will only get edge speeds on tmobile with the inter.. Note...If you use AT&T then its no big deal.
I am also on tmo. I found an article that says you can run tmo hspa+ on att note so I'm going to try and trade line on Craigslist. Edge is killing me man.
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I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
whocares2k7 said:
Hello, so let me get this right. If I have HSPA+ in my area (which I do in Chicago) then I can run the International Note on non-edge tmobile speeds?
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that depends on the frequency of the 3g network in your area.
however, this is the first I've seen it mentioned that American t mobile has any other 3g bands than 700mhz.
So I'd say no, you most likely will not get 3g speeds.
The N7000 will only run on T-Mobile edge. If you want 4g you have to AT&T or Straight Talk.
This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
Well, EDGE is downright terrible...no one can argue that. If you want to use T-Mobile, you're better off getting the AT-T note, unlocking it, then installing the right modem files to use it on 3g/4g. I use T-Mobile myself, and decided to keep the Int. version...I think it's better, and the development community is WAY better, mainly because the device has been out longer. It's up to you really. Don't hope T-Mobile will be updating it's 1900mhz spectrum in your area anytime soon...it's a process I'm sure will take many years.
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This is true. T-Mobile Sucks! EDGE just blows and I am amazed anyone uses it.
Oh well. I am going to try straight talk in a few weeks to see if that is any better.
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Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
smalmagal said:
I'm thinking of switching to straight talk myself...you know if they will honor the number you already have?
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Yes they do number porting as long as it is not a at&t number because straight talk uses at&t network.
It sucks that it is more difficult to get the inter version to work on 3g or h on tmo. I did read that the inter version is better than att version and I do believe that development will be better with the inter version as it obviously covers more countries and it has been out longer. I really want this note but I'm just gonna wait a bit. I have a feeling those guys working on getting tmo to work on inter version will be able to do it. Wishful thinking probably but it is possible with all the talented devs out there. I guess I'm going to be on sensation for a while until tmo comes up with a phone as awesome as the note. Thanks for all the responses!!
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Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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kotaro_14 said:
Check if your area has the TMO 1900Mhz band and if it does then you're in luck for some 3G TMO goodness.
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Noob question...how can I check? Are you getting 3g with tmo now?
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chadrick.7 said:
Straight Talk is excellent you get around 4-6mbps download speeds.
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FYI and I have heard of this issue before, Straight Talk gets varied reception in Metropolitian areas. Let me explain.
I have had ST for a few months now, on the NT7000. I have had zero issues.
A couple of caveats
DO NOT use more than 100mb/day or 2gb/month, whichever comes first. People have had their contracts terminated by ST for doing this. So not truly unlimited (but still more than decent deal). This is not a *hard* limit- I have done more without any issues by accident.
I get decent service in the suburb of NYC where I live (few tall buildings), actually much better service than Tmobile had.
However, in NYC itself, the service can be absolutely horrible depending on area. My guess for this phenomenon is that while you are on an ATT MVNO, this doesn't necessarily mean that you have the same roaming rights as regular ATT customers. In a metro area, roaming might be necessary to get signal in certain places.
My download speeds at 2gb down 1 up.
I would just buy a months' worth at first and try it out as prepaid, then port your number in.
From what I understand, you don't even need to buy the e71 like I did anymore
skillz9669 said:
I have T-mo US and I get H in most areas ( I live in Philly area ) as T-mo acquired some 1900mHz, but yes, the natural 700Mhz 3g/4g does not work, sorry.
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Which areas in Philly? I live in Philly but only manage to ever get Edge speeds on mine.
I use RedPocket. It's a MVNO of AT&T ....
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
houstonsveryown said:
so if we get an unlocked version running on att network. we will get hspa+?
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I do. I got it with the SGS II and ow with the Note. up to 3mbs download. Good enough. MediaNet is $10 a month unlimited, I don't use nearly 2GB maybe less than 1 as I am in WiFi most of the time. I am using a Cingular.wap setting. Its different than the "smartphone" APN but the speeds are the same (until LTE is available) I don't need LTE speeds on a phone. I don't even get those speeds at home on cable. maybe 7Mbs DL.

Will I be stuck on EDGE speeds with T-mobile sim?

I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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did you buy the 6603 or 6602 version? if 6603 then yes if 6602, u will get HSPA+
I just got a C6602 replacing my Nexus 4, HSPA+ speeds are the same on a $30 plan T-Mobile SIM.
amdhunter said:
I am planning to pull the trigger, like in 2 minutes.
I currently use T-Mobile ($30 plan) on my Nexus 4 and enjoy HSPA+ speeds in NYC. Does T-Mobile work on the Xperia Z on their 3G network? Or is it like my iPhone 4 and will be stuck on EDGE forever.
Thanks
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Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
E90 Commie said:
Since you are in NYC, head down to Bowery Street and At GSM in order to get the C6602. I bought my device there.
It supports the T-Mobile bands and is the obvious version to get for use in the US. The C6603 should be avoided since it lacks the important bands, not only for T-Mobile but it is also a bit crippled on the AT&T network.
The good thing is that the C6602 can use the same ROMs as C6603. So no need to worry about developer support.
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Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
amdhunter said:
Thanks! I'm pulling the trigger on this guy here.
Any reason I shouldn't? Price? Wrong phone?
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That is a good option so go for it. The only thing I wonder about is how it can have the US warranty since the C6602 isn't sold here, officially. It is an imported unit and they are usually without US warranties. If Sony offers a better policy than Samsung for example and honor the warranty, it is great news for me too. My previous imported phones has been the Note and Note II and Samsung doesn't cover them under the US warranty so that is why I think it is surprising to see it for that C6602.
its never too late?
it may be too late but negri electronics has it for 581.50 plus a $10 coupon that brings it down to 571.50, no tax free shipping
got it on ebay from HK user...free BT lol not that i will use it but gonna bundle with my old phone and sell it. O and its 591 with free shipping, takes a while though :/

[Q] AT&T unlocked work on T-Mobile??

So I have been searching to see if all available T-Mobile bands are open and ready on the moto x for tmobile if I moto Make an AT&T version and then unlock?
I do not want edge so if HSPA and LTE are available then I am leaning towards this route. Anyone know for sure?
I bought an att moto x and unlocked it and using t-mobile from past 20 days and i am getting 4g LTE same as my previous iphone 5 did and signal strength i can say even better than iphone. I dont know about bands and stuff but LTE works on my end
AndreaCristiano said:
So I have been searching to see if all available T-Mobile bands are open and ready on the moto x for tmobile if I moto Make an AT&T version and then unlock?
I do not want edge so if HSPA and LTE are available then I am leaning towards this route. Anyone know for sure?
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If you customize through MotoMaker right now and buy the AT&T version off-contract, then you will default to T-Mobile Edge speeds wherever they haven't yet refarmed to the 1900MHz band, which their 4G (and also the same band AT&T uses). It doesn't have the 1700MHz band that T-mobile uses in conjunction with the 2100MHz band to deliver HSPA+ speeds wherever the refarm hasn't happened (which is a LOT of places as of right now). Save yourself the frustration and just buy the T-Mobile version from Motorola's website, which has support for T-Mobile Edge, HSPA+, and 4G. All your bases will be covered at that point. Plus it works on AT&T as well, so thats an added benefit.
samarth1 said:
If you customize through MotoMaker right now and buy the AT&T version off-contract, then you will default to T-Mobile Edge speeds wherever they haven't yet refarmed to the 1900MHz band, which their 4G (and also the same band AT&T uses). It doesn't have the 1700MHz band that T-mobile uses in conjunction with the 2100MHz band to deliver HSPA+ speeds wherever the refarm hasn't happened (which is a LOT of places as of right now). Save yourself the frustration and just buy the T-Mobile version from Motorola's website, which has support for T-Mobile Edge, HSPA+, and 4G. All your bases will be covered at that point. Plus it works on AT&T as well, so thats an added benefit.
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This here is the correct answer.
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samarth1 said:
If you customize through MotoMaker right now and buy the AT&T version off-contract, then you will default to T-Mobile Edge speeds wherever they haven't yet refarmed to the 1900MHz band, which their 4G (and also the same band AT&T uses). It doesn't have the 1700MHz band that T-mobile uses in conjunction with the 2100MHz band to deliver HSPA+ speeds wherever the refarm hasn't happened (which is a LOT of places as of right now). Save yourself the frustration and just buy the T-Mobile version from Motorola's website, which has support for T-Mobile Edge, HSPA+, and 4G. All your bases will be covered at that point. Plus it works on AT&T as well, so thats an added benefit.
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Thank you this is what I assumed sad though because 600 for a plain black one feels a bit much
AndreaCristiano said:
Thank you this is what I assumed sad though because 600 for a plain black one feels a bit much
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Believe me, I felt the exact same way and ended up doing the MotoMaker Unlocked route; and now I'm waiting to ship it back and just get the T-Mobile one. It really isn't worth all the hassle for the customization in my opinion. Dropping from LTE to Edge is a huge pain
I was having this same LTE drop to edge thing and it sucks. I was aware that this would happen however and since I have an att moto x I'm switching to aio today. The LTE coverage here in Sacramento has too many holes in it. Gotta love no contract freedom!
raiderep said:
I was having this same LTE drop to edge thing and it sucks. I was aware that this would happen however and since I have an att moto x I'm switching to aio today. The LTE coverage here in Sacramento has too many holes in it. Gotta love no contract freedom!
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Thanks for this kind of response. I was just about to pull the trigger on dealing with an ATT motomaker on tmobile, but I think I can wait one more month.
Maratu said:
Thanks for this kind of response. I was just about to pull the trigger on dealing with an ATT motomaker on tmobile, but I think I can wait one more month.
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No worries, if you want to stay with T-Mobile then the wait is worth it, this phone is sweet!
raiderep said:
No worries, if you want to stay with T-Mobile then the wait is worth it, this phone is sweet!
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I actually already have it on Verizon. Took a long look at myself after paying full retail for it to keep my unlimited data, and decided that I'd had enough. It's on its way back now, and my trusty gnex will carry on it's last breath.
AndreaCristiano said:
Thank you this is what I assumed sad though because 600 for a plain black one feels a bit much
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Devilicus said:
Believe me, I felt the exact same way and ended up doing the MotoMaker Unlocked route; and now I'm waiting to ship it back and just get the T-Mobile one. It really isn't worth all the hassle for the customization in my opinion. Dropping from LTE to Edge is a huge pain
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raiderep said:
I was having this same LTE drop to edge thing and it sucks. I was aware that this would happen however and since I have an att moto x I'm switching to aio today. The LTE coverage here in Sacramento has too many holes in it. Gotta love no contract freedom!
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Maratu said:
Thanks for this kind of response. I was just about to pull the trigger on dealing with an ATT motomaker on tmobile, but I think I can wait one more month.
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I've got an unlocked AT&T MotoX on T-Mobile in Chicago, luckily the area downtown and surrounding the city are re-farmed 1900mhz or 4G LTE; guess I'm lucky so far because I haven't had really bad frustration dropping to edge.
Does anybody know if its confirmed when AT&T's exclusivity ends that T-Mobile will be able to have custom MotoMaker ability (in a month)?
haroonie said:
I've got an unlocked AT&T MotoX on T-Mobile in Chicago, luckily the area downtown and surrounding the city are re-farmed 1900mhz or 4G LTE; guess I'm lucky so far because I haven't had really bad frustration dropping to edge.
Does anybody know if its confirmed when AT&T's exclusivity ends that T-Mobile will be able to have custom MotoMaker ability (in a month)?
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45977175#post45977175
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45977175#post45977175
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If that's true, that sounds absolutely awesome.
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45977175#post45977175
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samarth1 said:
The wood backs and the custom engraving will be going live at that time as well, barring any unforeseen issues. They're actually already ready with the wood backs, but are taking their time to get it right so that when the floodgates open in November, they don't run into any issues. Verizon and Sprint are locked in for immediate MotoMaker availability. With the T-Mobile variant, since its the true unbranded & unlocked Moto X, Motorola will just be offering it as an option during the MotoMaker checkout.
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Sweet, thanks for that. A combo of the white with wood backing would be pretty sweet!

[Q] Moto X GSM Unlocked T-Mobile works outside the US?

Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
aricris said:
Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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joemon871 said:
Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked
joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
aricris said:
Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works
Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.

US X Performance & VoLTE on T-Mobile (or AT&T)???

PLEASE only respond if you live in the US and use T-Mobile (preferred) or AT&T AND have purchased the US version of the XP.................
Not sure if the US Xperia X Performance has been made available yet, but if so, can anyone tell me if it can get VoLTE on either T-Mobile or AT&T? Just wonder if radio/signal-wise it's any different than the int'l XP I have now.
Thanks!
what is the model of the intl version? we can lookup the whitepaper on them and compare the radios
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what is the model of the intl version? we can lookup the whitepaper on them and compare the radios
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Same model #s: F8132 for dual SIM (mine), F8131 for single-SIM.
they're the exact same radio according to Sony. so hardware wise if intl can do it so can us version. but do the carriers allow it is a whole other issue.
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they're the exact same radio according to Sony. so hardware wise if intl can do it so can us version. but do the carriers allow it is a whole other issue.
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Ok thanks for checking acme! Well the XP has all the same bands as T-Mobile, so they should! Though I found out that XPs used in other countries like Hong Kong DO get VoLTE (I've seen screenshots too), but in the US, both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM cards don't enable that. Weird! I'd still like someone WITH a US XP to confirm that they do or don't have VoLTE though on AT&T and/or T-Mobile.
Yeah like today I was in downtown Chicago with family, and like my parents have the Sony Xperia Z1s (locked phone from T-Mobile). We were down by Navy Pier (by Lake Michigan), and my dad's Z1s (released Jan 2014) was getting better reception than my brand new int'l XP (unlocked not through T-Mobile but from Sony b/c Sony are idiots who don't release phones through carriers anymore and I hate them for it lol).
Now, I thought this was maybe b/c their phones were from T-Mobile so they'd been "configured" to their network, but then my sister's b/f was saying that some of the older model phones have better radio reception than the newer ones b/c the newer ones have more crap CRAMMED into them, which can impede radio reception, despite the XP having a polycarbonate (aka plastic lol) frame which is supposed give you better reception than metal would.
You think that's it? Or do you think it has something to do with the XP not being "configured" by T-Mobile??
Thanks.
RockStar2005 said:
Ok thanks for checking acme! Well the XP has all the same bands as T-Mobile, so they should! Though I found out that XPs used in other countries like Hong Kong DO get VoLTE (I've seen screenshots too), but in the US, both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM cards don't enable that. Weird! I'd still like someone WITH a US XP to confirm that they do or don't have VoLTE though on AT&T and/or T-Mobile.
Yeah like today I was in downtown Chicago with family, and like my parents have the Sony Xperia Z1s (locked phone from T-Mobile). We were down by Navy Pier (by Lake Michigan), and my dad's Z1s (released Jan 2014) was getting better reception than my brand new int'l XP (unlocked not through T-Mobile but from Sony b/c Sony are idiots who don't release phones through carriers anymore and I hate them for it lol).
Now, I thought this was maybe b/c their phones were from T-Mobile so they'd been "configured" to their network, but then my sister's b/f was saying that some of the older model phones have better radio reception than the newer ones b/c the newer ones have more crap CRAMMED into them, which can impede radio reception, despite the XP having a polycarbonate (aka plastic lol) frame which is supposed give you better reception than metal would.
You think that's it? Or do you think it has something to do with the XP not being "configured" by T-Mobile??
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i'd bet money it has something to do with a configuration. If Sony already designed a phone where all the radios work why would they break it in later iterations, doesn't make sense. it's also illegal to say the phone can do this and that when it actually can't.
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i'd bet money it has something to do with a configuration. If Sony already designed a phone where all the radios work why would they break it in later iterations, doesn't make sense. it's also illegal to say the phone can do this and that when it actually can't.
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Ok then how do I reconfigure it? lol If it was that the radio was just better/stronger on the Z1s that's one thing, but if it was that my XP somehow wasn't configured "well enough" to T-Mobile's network, despite having all the same bands, then how do I fix that? lol
It could be that the phones are designed a certain way but then the carriers (when they get them to sell) do some extra configuring or tweaking too?
I remember being again in another part of downtown 2 years ago and 2 friends of mine who both had Sprint and the same phone (Galaxy S3) had differing reception. One had all 5 bars lit up, while the other who was only sitting 5 feet away, had like no reception. WTF? lol That's what happened yest except 2 different phones though both are Sony, oh and mine of course is unlocked int'l version.
RockStar2005 said:
Ok then how do I reconfigure it? lol If it was that the radio was just better/stronger on the Z1s that's one thing, but if it was that my XP somehow wasn't configured "well enough" to T-Mobile's network, despite having all the same bands, then how do I fix that? lol
It could be that the phones are designed a certain way but then the carriers (when they get them to sell) do some extra configuring or tweaking too?
I remember being again in another part of downtown 2 years ago and 2 friends of mine who both had Sprint and the same phone (Galaxy S3) had differing reception. One had all 5 bars lit up, while the other who was only sitting 5 feet away, had like no reception. WTF? lol That's what happened yest except 2 different phones though both are Sony, oh and mine of course is unlocked int'l version.
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you probably can't do anything. it'd be on the carrier end.
acme64 said:
you probably can't do anything. it'd be on the carrier end.
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F'ers!! lol
Thanks anyway acme.
RockStar2005 said:
F'ers!! lol
Thanks anyway acme.
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Just clarify, volte is locked only to tmobile phones unless the company goes get the phone certified (zte axon 7 went this route and HTC 10)
SovPanda said:
Just clarify, volte is locked only to tmobile phones unless the company goes get the phone certified (zte axon 7 went this route and HTC 10)
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Sov,
Yeah I know. All I REALLY care about is that I can get Band 12 for data from T-Mobile on my int'l Sony Xperia X Performance phone. I think I can, b/c that has NOTHING to do with VoLTE, which only is used DURING phone calls. I don't care about having Band 12 during phone calls, but I DO care about having it when not on a call.
RockStar2005 said:
Sov,
Yeah I know. All I REALLY care about is that I can get Band 12 for data from T-Mobile on my int'l Sony Xperia X Performance phone. I think I can, b/c that has NOTHING to do with VoLTE, which only is used DURING phone calls. I don't care about having Band 12 during phone calls, but I DO care about having it when not on a call.
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Band 12 works but you gotta find it like a unicorn
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Band 12 works but you gotta find it like a unicorn
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Haha..........so you have the int'l Sony Xperia X Perf on T-Mobile AND live in the U.S.??? Or know someone that does?
Well I live in Chicago which right now doesn't have Band 12 from T-Mobile. HOWEVER, a few mos ago T-Mobile bought a ton of Band 12 from an AT&T subsidiary, and so now it's only a matter of time before my entire area gets it (pending FCC approval). They say it could be as early as later this year or latest is prob next June. I'll know when it's available b/c T-Mobile will announce but I can also check their spectrum map too. When the area covered by the green circle around Chicago becomes "magenta" and has a bunch of circled 12s put into it, then that'll mean it's live. Can't wait!!
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Haha..........so you have the int'l Sony Xperia X Perf on T-Mobile AND live in the U.S.??? Or know someone that does?
Well I live in Chicago which right now doesn't have Band 12 from T-Mobile. HOWEVER, a few mos ago T-Mobile bought a ton of Band 12 from an AT&T subsidiary, and so now it's only a matter of time before my entire area gets it (pending FCC approval). They say it could be as early as later this year or latest is prob next June. I'll know when it's available b/c T-Mobile will announce but I can also check their spectrum map too. When the area covered by the green circle around Chicago becomes "magenta" and has a bunch of circled 12s put into it, then that'll mean it's live. Can't wait!!
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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Oh wow! That's great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have T-Mobile too though????!
I just wanna be able to get reception (data) in certain areas in downtown like at the Ogilvie Metra Station basement, Untitled club on Kinzie, etc. I'm hoping that Band 12/700 MHz will make that happen. But also for when I'm indoors in certain places in the suburbs.
Thanks for sharing this great info!! I figured it would but wasn't sure. I think the ppl who said no were thinking of VoLTE, or aka having 4G LTE data and/or voice DURING calls.
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Xperia z5 international in Chicago as well :0 but the areas that does have band 12 does support the Xperia phones
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So do you have T-Mobile too?
RockStar2005 said:
So do you have T-Mobile too?
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Yes sir, going to complain though to Sony, if a brand like zte can get certified to use t-mobile's volte than they should be able to >:/
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Yes sir, going to complain though to Sony, if a brand like zte can get certified to use t-mobile's volte than they should be able to >:/
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Awesome! Good to know!!
Haha...........I already tried doing that. I even had someone at T-Mobile's "Network team" contact their "contact" over at Sony Mobile about that issue. Last I heard, they never heard back from the Sony guy. lol But go ahead.........can't hurt!
I couldn't agree more. It's ****ing BS. It's the least they could do after not giving the US Z5 and X Perf a working fingerprint sensor. lol

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