I'm torn between purchasing an AT&T Note 3 or a T-Mobile one. I know the AT&T Note 3 bootloader will be locked and I will most likely have to wait for it to be unlocked and rooted if that is even possible since there is no one who has tried yet. The T-Mobile Note 3 will most likely have an unlocked bootloader but I've been reading around the forums and people are saying that you can not purchase the device with out a plan from T-Mobile even if you do pay for the device out right can I get some clarification on that? So which one would be best for my needs? I'm on AT&T currently and would like to stay with them but I do want root and an unlocked bootloader. What do you guys think? I know I posted this on the AT&T sub-forum but do you have any regrets of not pre-ordering a T-Mobile Note 3 instead? Thanks for your help and input!
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I'm torn between purchasing an AT&T Note 3 or a T-Mobile one. I know the AT&T Note 3 bootloader will be locked and I will most likely have to wait for it to be unlocked and rooted if that is even possible since there is no one who has tried yet. The T-Mobile Note 3 will most likely have an unlocked bootloader but I've been reading around the forums and people are saying that you can not purchase the device with out a plan from T-Mobile even if you do pay for the device out right can I get some clarification on that? So which one would be best for my needs? I'm on AT&T currently and would like to stay with them but I do want root and an unlocked bootloader. What do you guys think? I know I posted this on the AT&T sub-forum but do you have any regrets of not pre-ordering a T-Mobile Note 3 instead? Thanks for your help and input!
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I'm in the same boat
What I did was use my upgrade to get a GN3, I am going to sell that then for about 700 and buy and unlocked Tmobile GN3 from Negrielectronics.com so I'm spending around 400 dollars on a GN3 for Tmobile that has an unlocked bootloader and can use ATT's LTE.
Not a bad suggestion. Appreciate the input
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Pikezer1337 said:
I'm in the same boat
What I did was use my upgrade to get a GN3, I am going to sell that then for about 700 and buy and unlocked Tmobile GN3 from Negrielectronics.com so I'm spending around 400 dollars on a GN3 for Tmobile that has an unlocked bootloader and can use ATT's LTE.
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It doesn't seem very promising the idea that T-Mobile's Note 3 has an unlocked bootloader...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456617
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TEKHD said:
It doesn't seem very promising the idea that T-Mobile's Note 3 has an unlocked bootloader...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2456617
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From the screen shots, it does not look like the bootloader is locked.. Its something to do with either flashing or the files used...
Bootloader is definitely unlocked or else we wont be seeing the commands that appear
Yeah I saw that as well. I'm gonna wait until there's proof that it is locked or unlocked. Hoping for the best lol.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
Yeah I saw that as well. I'm gonna wait until there's proof that it is locked or unlocked. Hoping for the best lol.
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Chainfire has released CF auto root for the tmobile variant. It uses the recovery method to root.
I have access to an att demo unit, but am unable to take it out of the store. How would I check the bootloader status in store?
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neubauej said:
I have access to an att demo unit, but am unable to take it out of the store. How would I check the bootloader status in store?
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The AT&T boot loader is locked. No need to check.
neubauej said:
I have access to an att demo unit, but am unable to take it out of the store. How would I check the bootloader status in store?
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You can't. Once the stock firmware has been released for the AT&T version(which it hasn't) a dev like chainfire will modify the recovery from it. If it flashes successfully then it is unlocked. If it fails then it is locked. It is very risky to test flash something without the stock firmware.
ATT version = locked boot loader
T-Mobile version = wireless charging disabled.
Acaibowl said:
T-Mobile version = wireless charging disabled.
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I haven't seen any reports of that yet on the Note 3. The Note 2 did have one of the pins not connected.
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Chainfire has released CF auto root for the tmobile variant. It uses the recovery method to root.
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YAY! That's awesome, would I be able to buy it from T-Mobile out right and then get it unlocked using a third party service? Then use it on AT&T?
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ATT version = locked boot loader
T-Mobile version = wireless charging disabled.
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I was afraid of that ,
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
YAY! That's awesome, would I be able to buy it from T-Mobile out right and then get it unlocked using a third party service? Then use it on AT&T?
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Some people have said they were able to by the phone without service and some have not. Yes you can get it unlocked from a third party like cellunlocker.net. If you have a friend on Tmobile you might take them to lunch or something and stop by Tmobile. The phone doesn't have to be used on their account. I just think some store's are requiring an active account to buy it outright. I bought mine from Negri already unlocked. Still hasn't shipped yet though. For no tax I can wait.
Thanks for the advice! I just went to my local T-mobile and purchased one no questions asked. Granted it was 739$ before taxes and now I'm just waiting for my unlock code to be emailed to me by cellunlocker.net. overall very happy with my purchase.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
Thanks for the advice! I just went to my local T-mobile and purchased one no questions asked. Granted it was 739$ before taxes and now I'm just waiting for my unlock code to be emailed to me by cellunlocker.net. overall very happy with my purchase.
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Did you have to buy a plan? I went in to a store they said $708 for device plus have to get a plan. And they only had black. I want white!
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Did you have to buy a plan? I went in to a store they said $708 for device plus have to get a plan. And they only had black. I want white!
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I didn't have to buy a plan all I said was I wanted to buy a Note 3 for full retail. She rang my purchase out and I had the box in my hands. It ended up being 739$ plus tax instead of the normal 708$ but it was worth it. The sales associate didn't hassle me or anything about a plan. It's a mixed bag I guess some people on the forums had to get a plan but I was lucky enough not to.
GallardosEggrollShop said:
Thanks for the advice! I just went to my local T-mobile and purchased one no questions asked. Granted it was 739$ before taxes and now I'm just waiting for my unlock code to be emailed to me by cellunlocker.net. overall very happy with my purchase.
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Was it a dealer or corporate store?
It was a corporate store they had one black one left and I took it . Also an update on the unlock. It took about 2 hours but my Note 3 is now unlocked and using AT&T's LTE network. Getting about the same speeds as I was when using my iPhone 5. Extremely happy with my purchase!
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Related
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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You wont get LTE with the international version
barondebxl said:
You wont get LTE with the international version
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I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
Jayster0966 said:
I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
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Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
barondebxl said:
Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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TMO for me and working flawlessly.
Earthdog said:
TMO for me and working flawlessly.
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On my way to the T-MO store then. :fingers-crossed:
Just so I get this straight,
1. Purchase the N900T.
2. Purchase a $10 or $20 SIM card. (then insert it and use the phone) Required?
3. Bring it home and use the service on CellUnlocker.net
4. Wait for the unlock codes then ENJOY! (Change APN settings)
Optional;
Follow the rooting/recovery guides in the T-Mo thread.
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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agent929 said:
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
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Lol no worries. Just get the T-mobile version and you'll be just fine. I unlocked mine for cellunlocker.net ( well technically i havent unlocked it yet as i am waiting for my note 3 to be delivered but i got the unlock code ready to go).
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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Thanks for the update on that. You did not have to put a T-Mo SIM first? I thought that was required for the region unlock issue?
How are the actual LTE speeds? Others have mentioned a drop in speeds due to AT&T not giving top priority to the T-Mo IMEI.
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
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+1 on this question. How is the signal strength as well compared to a true AT&T phone in the same area?
Galaxy Note 3 Active
I was in the T-Mo store today looking at the Note 3. Ready and willing to go ahead and pull the trigger, then the rep says they are all out of the white one. They will have more in by the end of the week. Then mentions, they do have some at another store about 5 miles away though. He looks at me looking all disappointed and says, have you heard the rumor about the N3 active? No, I said. He says, if you can wait to get a new phone you might want to read up as it looks like Samsung is going to be going ahead with the release very soon.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-3-active-models-tipped-20131007/
Now so confused, I think I have to wait and see what developes.
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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That's compete crap. I can't believe they would do that to you. I was under the impression they had to if you bought it outright. Perhaps you'll have to get an unlock code elsewhere.
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Im confused
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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It's because their stock of N900T's have been blacklisted by US carriers. Meaning they were obtained from the gray market. T-Mobile and AT&T have a database of IMEI's that are blocked from their network.
N900T vs N900A
I was reading the thread and was wondering why folks would prefer to buy the N900T vs N900A (especially when they are planning to use if for AT&T and will be required to unlock immediately)? Is there hardware/software advantages for the N900T over the N900A?
I'll add my 2 cents on this. I had originally purchased the T-Mobile variant (N900T) of the Note 3. I loaded up a custom rom and it was perfect. Shortly after that, I noticed my LTE signal (not HSPA) would be very low (-110dbm) in areas where my AT&T branded phones would sit on -94dbm. I flashed back to stock and noticed the same thing. Overall, LTE reception on band 17 on the N900T was very poor. Its probably because the N900T isn't optimized to use Band 17. Using the device with T-Mobile service, I had no LTE issues.
Now using the N900A for AT&T and get great LTE reception.
A buddy of mine has also noticed the TMO Note3 gets a lower reception when compared to my ATT note3. We are both on ATT as well.
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If I buy the AT&T S5 for full price on att.com, will it come unlocked?
Mysteriouskk said:
If I buy the AT&T S5 for full price on att.com, will it come unlocked?
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No. But getting the device unlocked by them won't be a problem.
Sim unlocked or Bootloader unlocked, bl will likely never be unlocked in the near future, sim unlocked u can usually call ATT if not there are unlocking services.
Mysteriouskk said:
If I buy the AT&T S5 for full price on att.com, will it come unlocked?
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go here to unlock:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/?
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go here to unlock:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/client/en_US/?
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Any links for non att users without their service.
charlieb620 said:
Any links for non att users without their service.
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not that I know of. it seems to me that any unlocking service outside of the carriers is quite pricey and takes a while. but I could be wrong.
I don't know what their current Sim unlock policy is. But I remember to receive a unlock code you must be with AT&T for 90 days first. But they could of had changed that. If you pay full retail it won't be unlock. You just won't be on a contract. Meaning you could cancel their service at any time.
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I don't know what their current Sim unlock policy is. But I remember to receive a unlock code you must be with AT&T for 90 days first. But they could of had changed that. If you pay full retail it won't be unlock. You just won't be on a contract. Meaning you could cancel their service at any time.
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I currently have been with AT&T using a iphone for move than 2 years. Should I be able to get it unlocked day 1?
Mysteriouskk said:
I currently have been with AT&T using a iphone for move than 2 years. Should I be able to get it unlocked day 1?
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Yeah you should. Just call them and see what's up
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Hey there, do you hear fantastic news that unlocking services cut down price ranges for AT&T iPhone unlock?
The President of USA has signed the law enabling third-party companies to unlock locked mobile phone handset in U . s .. Another good information is that prices reduce and the cheapest unlock certainly is the unlock for AT&T iPhone. You can now unlock clean and out of contract AT&T iPhone 4, 4S for $15 only! This is certainly impressive because only one week ago the fee was $10 larger.
I expect to buy the new T Mobile Note 4 on or about the day it comes out but about 10 days later I will be out of the country for several weeks. Will I be able to get the unlock code from some 3rd party before I leave. I believe TM requires you use the phone for at least 40 days or more before they will unlock it, even when I pay full price for it.
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Bill
give them a call. im not 100% sure, but i believe you can get a temp unlock code, and the phone will re-lock when it comes back to USA.
T-mobile can help you with that.
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I'll be in a similar boat as well, instead leaving 20 days later.
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I'm active duty military, and when I bought the N2, I left on deployment soon afterwards. I spent 4 months in Singapore, and T-Mobile would NOT unlock my phone until I'd been a customer for 90 days, or paid off half the device cost. With that said, I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release. I suspended my plan with no problems, and picked up where I left off when I got back. My phone worked great with Singapore's network, though because I had to be prepaid, data was expensive.
Could someone please clarify the post above about "I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release..."
What is the exploit to unlock T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4?
c627627 said:
Could someone please clarify the post above about "I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release..."
What is the exploit to unlock T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4?
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None
BAD ASS NOTE 4
c627627 said:
Could someone please clarify the post above about "I ended up unlocking it myself using an exploit in the 4.1.1 T-Mobile Android release..."
What is the exploit to unlock T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4?
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He was referencing the Galaxy Note 2.
Quick question i want to buy the nexus 6 and get it quick i see amazon has it and i can buy it today and get it tomorrow now its the At&t version of it unlocked when you buy the 649.99 price tag? I want to use it on cricket... thank you
No its not. It is locked. They can unlock it for you if you have an active contract with them or unlock it online.
You can probably use it with cricket without being unlocked because they are owned by at&t. They use the same network. If you can I would suggest getting the T-Mobile version because its factory unlocked and its not branded.
mexiking713 said:
You can probably use it with cricket without being unlocked because they are owned by at&t. They use the same network. If you can I would suggest getting the T-Mobile version because its factory unlocked and its not branded.
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Really?? Oh that sounds awesome.
xxjrsmith3xx said:
Really?? Oh that sounds awesome.
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Yup and if for some reason they can't activate it then unlock it online for about $15.
You can use any AT&T phone that's not unlocked on cricket just find. I'm using a Nexus 6 on Cricket right now with there 20GB plan.
In person specifically, eg walmart, best buy, target
edit: I know I can order it online I am hella impatient
I think the ones at Best Buy are carrier unlocked.
wumboisms said:
In person specifically, eg walmart, best buy, target
edit: I know I can order it online I am hella impatient
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Bestbuy if you choose the unlocked version, but will miss out on the $400 carrier discount for Black Friday.
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I'm not worried about that I'm returning my T-Mobile phone because even after fully paying it off they're not making it easy to carrier unlock it
wumboisms said:
I'm not worried about that I'm returning my T-Mobile phone because even after fully paying it off they're not making it easy to carrier unlock it
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yeah no, their policy is around 40 days usage on their network, as I'm sure you've heard by now. They might give a temporary unlock sooner if you make a fuss about traveling internationally.
Phoenix591 said:
yeah no, their policy is around 40 days usage on their network, as I'm sure you've heard by now. They might give a temporary unlock sooner if you make a fuss about traveling internationally.
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I'm approved for device unlock but the app doesn't seem to register that.. Oh well, I'm going back to visible anyway, 40$/mo for unlimited everything is perf
Bestbuy is your best bet, just make sure you request an unlocked device.
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Att.Fan1982 said:
Bestbuy is your best bet, just make sure you request an unlocked device.
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haha yep, that's what I did.