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I've noticed a pretty big difference in battery life and charge time with this application running. The application states that it has improved battery life by 1.75x on my phone. It also seems to lop some charging time off.
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same here, its actually increased my batter life by 2.3x but thats because I put in in constant extreme mode. It saves a ton of battery but because it shuts everything off except texting and calling while the screen is off, when I turn it on to get the text or call it blows up with emails and other notifications... Its kind of funny actually. But yeah this is a great app if your looking to conserve life as long as possible and not worried about getting delayed notifications.

good stuff. i have mine set to aggressive and it's done ok for now.

I think my biggest problem with juice defender is the learning curve. Yeah I want to save battery life. But no, I don't want to miss an IM or email or something. I keep looking for a generally simple walk through on how to set stuff up and select the settings to get the best optimal results.
I have an extended battery and 2 of the regular ones, so battery life has ceased to be an issue. Still I'd like it to be a bit better than it is now.

WWJDD?
I use aggressive on mine and it says that it averages x1.83, it's amazing, I'm actually considering buying the paid version because of how awesome it really is, and that's from someone who has had a Droid for over 2 years and has never paid for a single app, because I thought that it was pointless. Thank you for converting me JD!!!

ufkal said:
I think my biggest problem with juice defender is the learning curve. Yeah I want to save battery life. But no, I don't want to miss an IM or email or something. I keep looking for a generally simple walk through on how to set stuff up and select the settings to get the best optimal results.
I have an extended battery and 2 of the regular ones, so battery life has ceased to be an issue. Still I'd like it to be a bit better than it is now.
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Here's a good place to start reading up on features http://latedroid.com/juicedefender
When you're ready to roll aggressive/custom you can take a look through the settings / help, also this app configuration article on their FAQ looks handy as well http://feedback.latedroid.com/forums/70437-general/suggestions/1409997-faq-configure-apps?ref=title
The auto config is fine but to see some real benefits one needs to set it up. Over time I'm sure the battery life benefit is huge.
For example you could disable data during the night, set it to 15 minute data off during the day, configure the apps you want (i.e. disabling data when using a game that doesn't need it).
My main concern is regarding compatibility with the Revo.
For example I'm getting an error that says: "ROM is not compatible with AOSP helper (3G control is unavailable) - get CyanogenMod"
Not sure how much of the app is compatible, what have you guys found?

JD set on balanced. 52 sms messages, multiple facebook checks, nothing else. good 4g coverage. unplugged at 9am, 30% and falling at 3pm. ok?

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JD set on balanced. 52 sms messages, multiple facebook checks, nothing else. good 4g coverage. unplugged at 9am, 30% and falling at 3pm. ok?
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check how good your service is. when it's not the data draining bettery, it usually means it's spending a lot of energy searching for cell signal

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Root and use SetCPU, and slam into 'on demand' with a minimum of 250mhz clock. battery life is CRAZY good now and i never have to worry about missing a email from gmail or my works outlook server (which goes off like crazy, around 100 emails a day)

bken620 said:
I use aggressive on mine and it says that it averages x1.83, it's amazing, I'm actually considering buying the paid version because of how awesome it really is, and that's from someone who has had a Droid for over 2 years and has never paid for a single app, because I thought that it was pointless. Thank you for converting me JD!!!
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Pointless to buy apps? lol, thats the reason many app developers won't develop for Android. Android owners are generally known to be cheapskates, and this is why the big app developers have avoided Android for the most part. There not going to develop something if they don't think they can make money on it. And that is the biggest reason the iPhone gets the best apps and we get leftovers. The other reason is the amount of different Androids, but the main reason is that they want to make money because they are a business.

smokedkill said:
Pointless to buy apps? lol, thats the reason many app developers won't develop for Android. Android owners are generally known to be cheapskates, and this is why the big app developers have avoided Android for the most part. There not going to develop something if they don't think they can make money on it. And that is the biggest reason the iPhone gets the best apps and we get leftovers. The other reason is the amount of different Androids, but the main reason is that they want to make money because they are a business.
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I actually bought the most expensive of this app, I think it was $5 or $6, my buddy has the itouch and he hacked it, he now can have pretty much any app he wants for FREE. The only things I used my original Motorolla Droid was for taking pictures (stock app), playing angrybirds, and calling/texting people. With this new phone I'm doing a lot more, and very willing to give credit where credit is due, so get off your high horse and buy an iphone if your so worried about getting the bad end of the deal.

I bought JD Ultimate. Great buy IMHO. I was using set CPU and Setting Profiles which work well. JDU does all that those do and so much more. I have on demand CPU set. wifi only comes on when I am home based on cell signal GPS not the standalone GPS which chews battery. It also lets you disable individual apps from checking statuses when the screen is off and then enables them as soon as you turn the screen on. GPS standalone only comes on when the screen is on. I have different profiles for work hours and off hours so it does email instantly while at work and only every 15 minutes in the evening. I have more than doubled my battery life.
Revo + De-crap rom + lock scree/battery indicator mod + Juice Defender Ultimate = best phone available today

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I bought JD Ultimate. Great buy IMHO. I was using set CPU and Setting Profiles which work well. JDU does all that those do and so much more. I have on demand CPU set. wifi only comes on when I am home based on cell signal GPS not the standalone GPS which chews battery. It also lets you disable individual apps from checking statuses when the screen is off and then enables them as soon as you turn the screen on. GPS standalone only comes on when the screen is on. I have different profiles for work hours and off hours so it does email instantly while at work and only every 15 minutes in the evening. I have more than doubled my battery life.
Revo + De-crap rom + lock scree/battery indicator mod + Juice Defender Ultimate = best phone available today
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Absolutely agree! All the same for me!
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lag to re-enable mobile data?
i stopped using JD because I couldnt take the lag and inconsistency with which it would restore mobile data connection on unlock
i tried restoring a backup of JD beta and it actually seems to be more consistent.
i'm curious, how long does JD ultimate take to restore data connection for those who have it?
thx

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i stopped using JD because I couldnt take the lag and inconsistency with which it would restore mobile data connection on unlock
i tried restoring a backup of JD beta and it actually seems to be more consistent.
i'm curious, how long does JD ultimate take to restore data connection for those who have it?
thx
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5 seconds... Maybe 10 if I'm in a bad coverage area. This is 3g only though. No 4g here yet.
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It does take a few seconds to restore connections. And it is a little annoying. Probably 5 seconds for everything to be restored and 100% functioning.
With Ultimate version you can make very detailed customization's. So for example you could tell it not to give access to apps like Facebook to update when the screen is off, and to only turn on Wifi when at a certain GPS location (it uses phone radio for location not the GPS radio so it doesn't use battery), and use processor on demand scaling, and you could set it to only turn off radio's during off hours, say in the evening when the 5 second lag might not be as big an issue. Doing those things would still give you significant improvements in battery use while not causing the hassle of waiting for radio's to turn back on. For example I have mine set to sync email in real time during business hours, and at 15 minute intervals in the evening. So I don't get as much battery life as I potentially could, but I also don't have to wait for it to sync things up while I'm at work.
Right now I have been off the charger for 6.5 hours, and have been checking email regularly, and even flashed the clock mod that just got posted in the development forum, and I'm at 80% battery. Not bad.

Doubt he is "hacking" them. There is installius for the iPhone which is the apparently store cracked equivelant which houses many already cracked ipa's. With that being said many developers are in arms in apples lack of piracy for not checking having a more consistent way of checking authenticity of applications. As long as it keeps up you will see less updates for popular applications and developers moving to different platforms.
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Hello all,
I like to use "Green Power Free" for battery savings. You can download it in the market. It's a free app, i suggest it to all my Android friends.

Now I'm going to have to go back on saying green power. It fails to register the lock/unlock correctly and either never shuts down the modems on a screen lock or never turns them back on after an unlock. Green power works well on my friends Streak and on another friends inc2, so must be the LG magic getting things fuzzy for GP. So back to JD for now.
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cm7 should fix a lot of battery issues and extend it a ton

Battery Drain?

When I got the phone my battery was pretty phenomenal (comparatively speaking). But it seems since I took the update that Sprint pushed out a few weeks ago, the battery can't make it more than a few hours with light/moderate use. Its really horrid to be honest. Hoping the eventual 4.2.2 OTA will fix this. But in the meantime I wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue and possibly help identify the source of the problem. (By the way I am not rooted)

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When I got the phone my battery was pretty phenomenal (comparatively speaking). But it seems since I took the update that Sprint pushed out a few weeks ago, the battery can't make it more than a few hours with light/moderate use. Its really horrid to be honest. Hoping the eventual 4.2.2 OTA will fix this. But in the meantime I wanted to know if anyone else was having this issue and possibly help identify the source of the problem. (By the way I am not rooted)
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Have you checked the version of your Google Play Services APK? It can cause a particularly nasty bug on HTC devices.

Rirere said:
Have you checked the version of your Google Play Services APK? It can cause a particularly nasty bug on HTC devices.
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Play Services is v 3.1.36 but the actual Play Store is v 4.1.10 which is said to "fix battery drain issue." Still seems to be draining pretty rapidly. Any fix you know of?

Can we see your usage stats?

daltonroland said:
Play Services is v 3.1.36 but the actual Play Store is v 4.1.10 which is said to "fix battery drain issue." Still seems to be draining pretty rapidly. Any fix you know of?
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The Play Store update should have also pushed Play Services, so yeah. Could we see your usage and also your app list/sync settings?

I'm in the same boat, even after the Google Play Store fix.

Seriously, we need usage stats.

Sorry, been working in home WiFi.
Hardly been using the phone since I still have my old Evo LTE and the battery is better on that.
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Wifi used up 43% of 60% of your battery? That's like a quarter of your battery gone! Am I the only one who thinks that's weird? Can we see the graph and awake time etc? (Sorry for the trouble, but it's the only way we can tell)
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Sorry, been working in home WiFi.
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Just wanted to ask, what does that mean? (Not trying to be negative in any way)

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Wifi used up 43% of 60% of your battery? That's like a quarter of your battery gone! Am I the only one who thinks that's weird? Can we see the graph and awake time etc? (Sorry for the trouble, but it's the only way we can tell)
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Just wanted to ask, what does that mean? (Not trying to be negative in any way)
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Well, in fairness for the last week or so I've been charging the phone and leaving it in my room. The screenshot was after like a day and a half in which a hardly used it and had WiFi on.
By working on home WiFi I meant talking to ISP and bumping up speeds, for the second time in a week.
I'll post the graph when I get home from work or early tomorrow as the phone has been unplugged for about 20 minutes.
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It won't hurt if you actually use it. Watching vids/playing games prevents blown up stats like that.
EDIT: Please, also include stats like screen time, awake time, cell reception, Wifi etc.

This was at work. I hardly use my phone at work fyi.
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Dropped 25 ish percent in 6 hours? What seems to be the problem?
With your usage, that would give you a day. I'm happy with 11 hours.

But with no internet connection and hardly any use. It concerns me because usually it would drop 5 maybe 10%. It was great on sleep.
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OK, now that I think about it, you're right. I remember getting more than 2 days on standby with absolutely no use (on wifi).
A day with that kind of usage is really not that good. It's weird because your stats don't show anything odd. I'd like to see some moderate to heavy usage stats though. The kind you say gives you 5 hours. That would help more.

Here you go. About 50% gone in about an hour of use (on WiFi) mostly on YouTube/Twitter or music with regular use of ATK.
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I'm having a serious battery drain issue with my Sprint One also, though I don't remember exactly when it started - it might very well have been that OTA update.
My battery drains when the phone is asleep. The phone will be dead in just over 24 hours from 100%, with less than one hour of screen usage. The integrated "usage" monitor shows that WiFi consumes this power , whether or not WiFi is in use. I have a paid task manager app that can track stats over time, and according to it, the processor appears to be running at ~15% constantly when the screen is off. I've tried disabling WiFi and having the phone sleep on just the cell network, to no avail. I first thought that perhaps the poor service at my house was causing it. However, I watched the battery drain at exactly the same rate when in an area with perfect coverage.
Here's the weird part - I tried airplane mode'ing my phone. Airplane mode doesn't seem to stop it. In fact, airplane mode seemed to accelerate the drain! I find it simply unacceptable that my phone will die like this with almost no usage.
I feel that the problem is not a rogue third-party app I have installed. I've used the "disable" option on Facebook, Twitter, and I've removed several other suspected apps. It makes no difference. I even suspected my task manager app; I tried removing it and looking at the integrated one, and there was no difference.

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I'm having a serious battery drain issue with my Sprint One also, though I don't remember exactly when it started - it might very well have been that OTA update.
My battery drains when the phone is asleep. The phone will be dead in just over 24 hours from 100%, with less than one hour of screen usage. The integrated "usage" monitor shows that WiFi consumes this power , whether or not WiFi is in use. I have a paid task manager app that can track stats over time, and according to it, the processor appears to be running at ~15% constantly when the screen is off. I've tried disabling WiFi and having the phone sleep on just the cell network, to no avail. I first thought that perhaps the poor service at my house was causing it. However, I watched the battery drain at exactly the same rate when in an area with perfect coverage.
Here's the weird part - I tried airplane mode'ing my phone. Airplane mode doesn't seem to stop it. In fact, airplane mode seemed to accelerate the drain! I find it simply unacceptable that my phone will die like this with almost no usage.
I feel that the problem is not a rogue third-party app I have installed. I've used the "disable" option on Facebook, Twitter, and I've removed several other suspected apps. It makes no difference. I even suspected my task manager app; I tried removing it and looking at the integrated one, and there was no difference.
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Check to make sure never auto turn on Wi-Fi is checked in Wi-Fi advanced settings. I was going to suggest poor reception since that kills my battery, but you mentioned trying airplane mode.
With screen off and nothing running, it's not surprising that Wi-Fi is the main battery drain. But it is too fast in my opinion too.
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Is high performance Wi-Fi disabled?
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Nexus 5 BETTER Battery Performance

I have been reading the many battery threads where people are posting screenshots and either complaining or raving about their particular Nexus 5’s battery performance. I am shocked that some people are turning off their Wifi, Mobile Data, GPS, Google Now, Sync, and every other feature that makes these phones so useful and still suffering with poor battery performance.
In this thread, instead of complaining or bragging about your battery performance, I thought that this could be used as a place where you all can post how you use your device and what you are doing to save juice and how it works. I’ll go first.
I have had 3 different Nexus 5’s. The first had the speaker/microphone problem and was RMAed. The second was doing great until it overheated and the LEDs at the bottom of the screen exploded. It was RMAed. My current one seems to have a weaker vibrator motor, but I’m going to live with it.
I use my phone instead of my laptop. It seems the only time I use my laptop these days it to flash my phone. I browse the web (Chrome), watch YouTube (YouTube App), read my email (Gmail), shop Amazon (Amazon App), manage my schedule (Calendar App, Pure Calendar Widget), get my news (Flipboard), participate in groups (Google Plus), Chromecast (Netflix, YouTube), participate in these forums (XDA Premium App), and various others. I don’t really play games and don’t tax the CPU to hard.
To save juice, I…
use LUX to manage my screen brightness and usually can function with the screen below 0% unless I’m outside.
use Tasker to turn on/off my wifi, data, gps, sync, and perform a few other tasks, kind-of-like juice defender, but a lot more reliable.
use Better Battery Stats to keep an eye on my apps and de-install apps with bad behavior. I plan on installing Greenify, but have not gotten around to it.
I usually get 12 to 14 hours with 3-4 hours screen time before I plug my phone in at night and have 25%-50% battery left. And, I don't feel I'm depriving myself of any performance.
Some things I have read…
With these new batteries, you never want to let them fully discharge. In fact, keeping them charged is very important, so having a charger at work, or in your car is a good practice.
When your phone gets hot, give it a rest. A hot phone is not working efficiently, and you can damage the battery permanently if it overheats.
It takes a few days for your phone to reach its best performance. When you first get it, it is working in the background to index files and such, which is keeping the phone from reaching deep sleep and is using juice.
After an update, if your phone just doesn’t seem right, it might not be. Do a factory reset and try again. If something didn’t update correctly, there is no telling what could be affected…even your battery performance.
If you have ideas on how to increase battery performance, or discovered apps or settings that drain your battery, please post them here.
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Make sure your apps are configured properly. For example, make sure apps such as Google + are configured to only backup while charging.
In Settings / Locations, set mode to 'Battery Saving' . It passively detects your location which uses no battery. It has been reported that turning off 'location reporting' has no negative effect on Now and Maps. This is a big juice saver.
Kill apps when done using them. Some apps, if left open, will continue draining your juice.
Turn off 'Scanning Always Available' in Wifi /Advanced Settings.
Things I Have Been Experimenting With...
Greenify is a great app for battery optimization. I have apps on my phone that I don't use often, but seem to keep the phone awake. Greenify them and put the app to bed until you need it.
I've been experimenting with Kernels. After much experimentation, I used Franco Kernel on my GN, so I tried his out and have noticed a battery savings on my screen off time. This is a recommendation for rooted phones because the Franco Updater app on the Play Store does all the heavy lifting.
If you find this information helpful, please hit the 'thanks' button.
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My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.

Wow. On stock I easily get 5 hours screen on time with everything on, but only 14ish hours total. With light usage (2 1/2 hrs) close to 27 hours. However I've seen guys posting over 3 days so now I'm playing around with kernels (Franco at the moment) and multirom. I'm using ART but not sure how much difference honestly.
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maxpower7 said:
My battery life has been fantastic ever since I disabled Google+. It was constantly running in the background all the damn time and just destroying my battery when I wasn't even using it. Ever since I disabled it, I can easily pull down 4-5 hours of screen on time.
That being said, I'm definitely an opportunistic charger. I work from home so it's easy to keep my phone juiced up when I'm not using it. I rarely go below 50%.
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You can also just greenify Google+ and also check if you have the photo backup with it turned to on. I found my app running for half an hour while phone was off and it was due to the backing up of the photos.

Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..

I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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rayiskon said:
Instead of opening "yet another thread", this could've been posted here, here, here, here, here and probably in many others..
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Yea. But mostly you will read people bragging or complaining. There is a lot of good information in those threads, but to find it, you will have to dig. My intention is that this thread will be a place to find, test, and compile solutions for those suffering with poor performance.
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jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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I greenify most apps, keep screen brightness down, GPS Bluetooth always off, data only on when screen on, etc. I got 1 day 15 hours with over 6 hours screen time with my usage. I mostly use my phone for xda, 9gag, some chrome browsing, and a couple other things.
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JamieFL said:
I also use Google + every day with little impact. I checked my settings and I have it set to only back up while on WiFi and only while charging.
I also use Tasked to turn off sync when the screen is off keeping the phone in deep sleep.
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Yup I use that same setting thanks for pointing that out :good:
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IMO, I shouldn't have to do any of this to "save" battery life. It is what it is.

jbdan said:
I use Google+ every day all day. The impact it has on battery life is zero. Of course that's my experience. If it's murdering your battery them you don't have something set up properly or as they say "you're doing it wrong"
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Google+ kills my battery regardless of what my settings are. I literally only used it as an offline photo gallery - there was no syncing being done at all, no auto-awesome, no photo backups or any of that. I don't know how there could possibly be any user error in my setup.

I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.

muyoso said:
I think literally the only thing that should be done to save battery life is to disable location reporting and to possibly disable autobrightness when indoors. Other than that, nothing needs to be done to get spectacular battery life. All I have is a tasker profile to disable autobrightness when connected to my wifi network and re-enable it when I am not connected, and then location reporting turned off. I get 6 hours screen on time daily.
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Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.

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Location reporting is such a huge battery drain and it doesn't seem to have any real benefits. Google Now works fine without it.
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Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.

For me at least, I went from about half a day on full battery to almost a day and a half by turning off LTE and Wi-Fi scanning with constant usage. I was conflicted a bit for choosing either LTE or battery life but I'm happier with choosing battery life.
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I added the suggestion about setting location reporting off. Thanks.
I've heard that if your area has poor LTE signal, that can cause a big battery drain. Can anyone confirm that? If this is true, this could be a big contributor to unexplained battery drain.

muyoso said:
Yea. I was very surprised that it had absolutely zero impact to turn it off for me. Google Now works perfectly fine. Maps works. Everything works. I guess the only negative is that you are not contributing information into the Google hivemind to help out others with traffic information and crap like that. . . . Otherwise there are no negative effects to turning it off, and doing so squashes the nlp wakelock bug completely.
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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.

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Were you still able to get traffic notifications? It's weird that it doesn't seem to affect weather updates as well.
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Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.

muyoso said:
Not sure about traffic notifications as I work from home and Google cannot comprehend that and thinks I work at the grocery store, but weather notifications work perfectly. Just traveled for Christmas and it was tracking me perfectly from city to city.
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Gotcha. I mean it's not a huge deal. Google often thinks I'm driving to work/class when I'm not actually doing so and it's more useful to check traffic within the Maps app anyway. I'll try the reporting off for a few days though and see how much of a difference it makes.

[Q] Battery Life Issues?

Can anybody here help me diagnose my battery life issues? The battery was incredible for the first couple of days of use, and then suddenly plummeted to what I'm displaying in the screenshots. I know it doesn't look terrible, but it was so much better before, and I haven't downloaded any apps or anything. I had the same problem with sudden droppage on my HTC One too. I don't think it's the fact that Android System is so high because I've seen a lot of other people with this issue and I've had it across two devices as well on 4.3+.

dsass600 said:
Can anybody here help me diagnose my battery life issues? The battery was incredible for the first couple of days of use, and then suddenly plummeted to what I'm displaying in the screenshots. I know it doesn't look terrible, but it was so much better before, and I haven't downloaded any apps or anything. I had the same problem with sudden droppage on my HTC One too. I don't think it's the fact that Android System is so high because I've seen a lot of other people with this issue and I've had it across two devices as well on 4.3+.
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Check out the"how's your battery life" thread in general. Tonnes of info in there. Read through it.
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kj2112 said:
Check out the"how's your battery life" thread in general. Tonnes of info in there. Read through it.
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I have! I don't know what the problem is with every phone I buy. Do any of my app seem rare to you? I have essentially the same setup on every phone I buy and the battery life is only good for the first couple of days.

dsass600 said:
I have! I don't know what the problem is with every phone I buy. Do any of my app seem rare to you? I have essentially the same setup on every phone I buy and the battery life is only good for the first couple of days.
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Can you download Gsam from play store? Then fully charge your phone...Go until you need to charge again, and print screen Gsam main screen?
The screens you have don't tell much.
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dsass600 said:
I have! I don't know what the problem is with every phone I buy. Do any of my app seem rare to you? I have essentially the same setup on every phone I buy and the battery life is only good for the first couple of days.
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your best bet is to downbload an app that can detect wakelocks. if you are on 4.4 and don't have root then you there are no more apps you can use to view these wakelocks because 4.4 removed that ability. If you are in that situation, try googling certain apps you may think are weird. like "chrome beta battery drain issue" and im sure one of your apps will pop up a result that describes how it is screwing up your battery drain.

Again tho....the battery thread has all kinds of trouble shooting help.....I'd just be repeating it all here.
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YEAH! Go read those 150+ pages like a normal person with a life!
But one thing I've found that helped a ton: Go into Settings --> Accounts --> Google --> (your google account) --> unsync anything you don't use.
Google Keep was keeping my phone awake for about an hour a day.
Battery life has GREATLY improved for me.

TheBungle said:
YEAH! Go read those 150+ pages like a normal person with a life!
But one thing I've found that helped a ton: Go into Settings --> Accounts --> Google --> (your google account) --> unsync anything you don't use.
Google Keep was keeping my phone awake for about an hour a day.
Battery life has GREATLY improved for me.
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Already done. Believe me I've exhausted all the obvious possible fixes. Anything else you think could help short of turning off my mobile data?

TheBungle said:
YEAH! Go read those 150+ pages like a normal person with a life!
But one thing I've found that helped a ton: Go into Settings --> Accounts --> Google --> (your google account) --> unsync anything you don't use.
Google Keep was keeping my phone awake for about an hour a day.
Battery life has GREATLY improved for me.
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Well, let's see.. .this thread has been open 11 hours as of now...and still ongoing. I'd say you could read the whole battery thread in an hour....which has every battery saving tip there is mentioned in it. As well as how to trouble shoot. ...Gsam for example. (Which I mentioned here hours ago even)
Seems to me that's a lot of time saved.
You can lead a horse to water....But.....
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dsass600 said:
Can anybody here help me diagnose my battery life issues? The battery was incredible for the first couple of days of use, and then suddenly plummeted to what I'm displaying in the screenshots. I know it doesn't look terrible, but it was so much better before, and I haven't downloaded any apps or anything. I had the same problem with sudden droppage on my HTC One too. I don't think it's the fact that Android System is so high because I've seen a lot of other people with this issue and I've had it across two devices as well on 4.3+.
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just a guess, but the issue could be your mobile signal. notice in the screen shot that there is some green/yellow there - indicating that your signal was weak/not connected. a weak/no signal would cause significant battery drain.
also, I'm fairly certain that any app related to FB consumes a lot of battery life.
also, get the CPUSpy app - that tells you if your phone has been entering deep sleep or not.
hope this helps.

I figured it out. Installed a CPU monitoring application since I'm not rooted and saw that the phone was barely sleeping. Purely by chance I guessed it was Snapchat, greenified the application, and it worked! Thanks for your help guys.

dsass600 said:
I figured it out. Installed a CPU monitoring application since I'm not rooted and saw that the phone was barely sleeping. Purely by chance I guessed it was Snapchat, greenified the application, and it worked! Thanks for your help guys.
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Which CPU monitor application did you use? Does Greenify work without root?

amarguli said:
Which CPU monitor application did you use? Does Greenify work without root?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.systemmonitor
Yes, but it doesn't automatically hibernate your applications.

Battery drain - at&t note 9

Hi guys,
Have been using my new note 9 after replacing it with my s8+. So far it's a pretty good phone. One of the primary reasons for me to get was the large battery such that it will last m even more longer. But I have been noticing poor performance everyday. At the end of the day, I am bleeding to 10%. The s8+ was given to my wife and I compared her usage vs mine and for same amount of screen time I ended up at 30% and she was at 67%. I have less amount of apps installed than hers and she is heavy user of all social media apps. I have been observing my battery performance and what seems to be draining the most is the Android system, Google play services and Android OS. They claim all together half of my battery life. I noticed that there was an update right after I setup my note 9 initially and not sure if that could have caused it. Is there any way I can reverse it to see if it was the update? I have already tried wiping out the cache and shutting down all background activities on those items and blocked notification on pretty much most of the apps. How is everyone else's experience on the battery? I forgot to capture screen shot but will do it at the end of today.

WIZARDfan said:
Hi guys,
Have been using my new note 9 after replacing it with my s8+. So far it's a pretty good phone. One of the primary reasons for me to get was the large battery such that it will last m even more longer. But I have been noticing poor performance everyday. At the end of the day, I am bleeding to 10%. The s8+ was given to my wife and I compared her usage vs mine and for same amount of screen time I ended up at 30% and she was at 67%. I have less amount of apps installed than hers and she is heavy user of all social media apps. I have been observing my battery performance and what seems to be draining the most is the Android system, Google play services and Android OS. They claim all together half of my battery life. I noticed that there was an update right after I setup my note 9 initially and not sure if that could have caused it. Is there any way I can reverse it to see if it was the update? I have already tried wiping out the cache and shutting down all background activities on those items and blocked notification on pretty much most of the apps. How is everyone else's experience on the battery? I forgot to capture screen shot but will do it at the end of today.
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I'm chiming in because I'm currently using the Note 9 ATT variant. My battery life has been pretty decent, but it's tough because the usage and even my "all day" and your "all day" can differ so much. Are you using 1080 resolution or did you set it to the higher resolution? I'm also running the ATT update you mentioned. But I'm also using wifi calling, not sure if that hurts or helps battery life, I haven't used it on my previous unlocked international HTC devices, so I'm just starting to experiment.
Have you enabled any of the battery optimization?
You can go to settings/device maintenance and click on battery on the bottom. I have it set to off in the "presets" but at the lower part of the page you can see "app power monitor" and see the app's power usage per hour. If you've got some that are higher, you can click on just those apps to check them on the list, and then click "save power" and see if your battery life gets better.
Possibly if you're using always on display you can modify that, if it's not something you really need and have already addressed.

Thanks for your reply. I am not running any battery optimization. I wanted to try default. Yes, I looked at battery usage per app and don't find anything bothering or consuming extra battery. Resolution is set to 1080 and always on display is off. Also. Wifi calling is on at all times. I am not sure if I am expecting too much but after using s8+ for over a year I was expecting much decent battery life with less than half of the apps installed on s8+ and having a bigger battery on this beast. I will need to find out how to lower down those Android system, os and Google play services.

My device is unlocked but on AT&T's network and I'm running my screen at max resolution and close to max brightness. My screen and AOD are always one and two with the O/S running a distant third or fourth sometimes fifth. If Google Play Services is consuming that much battery it is constantly running in the background trying to sync or pull data which it's not getting. Focus on that application and you should be fine, my phone is typically at greater than 50% at the end of the day and I use it all the time.

Birdsfan said:
My device is unlocked but on AT&T's network and I'm running my screen at max resolution and close to max brightness. My screen and AOD are always one and two with the O/S running a distant third or fourth sometimes fifth. If Google Play Services is consuming that much battery it is constantly running in the background trying to sync or pull data which it's not getting. Focus on that application and you should be fine, my phone is typically at greater than 50% at the end of the day and I use it all the time.
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How do you find which app or service is running in background which is trying to pull or sync data?

Just a note, I had to drop t-mobile to make a point with them for screwing with my account. Houston has good coverage but the network is congested and that is an understatement. My battery life went down on my V20 and my note4 when on ATT's network. Not that the reception was always poor, because it is very poor at my house, but speeds and latency on ATTs LTE were like going back to HSPA. Sometimes it was better to turn off LTE and just put up with the super high latency to get decent speeds on ATT.

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How do you find which app or service is running in background which is trying to pull or sync data?
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Go into settings/apps/Google Play Services/Battery and see what it's been doing. You can restrict the app as well from there I believe, also clear the cache. As I stated I would focus on that app specifically.

My experience was rough when I first got the phone as well. I factory restored with Odin and used ADB to remove all the apps I was not going to use. I then i stalled all my apps and the battery life took a hit again. I'd come home from a 9 hour day of work and be in the 40s. I downloaded betterbatterystats and let it monitor my phone overnight. I found that com.att.iqi was running all the time and constantly causing wake locks. I downloaded package disabler pro and disabled that package. Now when I leave work I am at 75% battery for the past two days. By bed time my phone has been off the charger for 18 hours with about 4 hours screen on time and I'm between 25%-35% which is outstanding. I made a thread with my complaint comparing the battery to my iPhone X and was called a troll because android can do no wrong. In short get betterbatterystats and package disabler pro.

Thanks for this, I was wondering if betterbatterystats would work on my Note 9, but hadn't researched it yet. It's a great app specifically for targeting issues like this, but I've always used it on rooted devices so I didn't recall if it worked on unrooted devices. I'm looking forward to trying it over the next few days and slimming this thing down.
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CharliesTheMan said:
Thanks for this, I was wondering if betterbatterystats would work on my Note 9, but hadn't researched it yet. It's a great app specifically for targeting issues like this, but I've always used it on rooted devices so I didn't recall if it worked on unrooted devices. I'm looking forward to trying it over the next few days and slimming this thing down.
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Try Wake lock detector lite. One simple adb command allows you see wakeup locks etc ..
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My battery life on the ATT version has been garbage too. I was going to return it, but I missed my 14 day window. Thus far, my S9+ was a better device, but I'm hoping the little bugs get squashed in an upcoming update.

One thing I'm wondering about is Bixby. My battery life seems to be pretty decent with ATT. I don't use Bixby, although I haven't disabled the app, I don't have it set up or signed in.
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TechSilver13 said:
My experience was rough when I first got the phone as well. I factory restored with Odin and used ADB to remove all the apps I was not going to use. I then i stalled all my apps and the battery life took a hit again. I'd come home from a 9 hour day of work and be in the 40s. I downloaded betterbatterystats and let it monitor my phone overnight. I found that com.att.iqi was running all the time and constantly causing wake locks. I downloaded package disabler pro and disabled that package. Now when I leave work I am at 75% battery for the past two days. By bed time my phone has been off the charger for 18 hours with about 4 hours screen on time and I'm between 25%-35% which is outstanding. I made a thread with my complaint comparing the battery to my iPhone X and was called a troll because android can do no wrong. In short get betterbatterystats and package disabler pro.
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Thanks. I will try out betterbatterystats.

ClubDownforce said:
My battery life on the ATT version has been garbage too. I was going to return it, but I missed my 14 day window. Thus far, my S9+ was a better device, but I'm hoping the little bugs get squashed in an upcoming update.
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I actually managed to return mine and got another note 9 thinking that I would try it without doing the first update. Unfortunately that software update thing popped up while I was using the phone and I hit continue by mistake. I am kind of thinking about returning this one and getting the s9 plus if I still have this crappy battery life.

WIZARDfan said:
I actually managed to return mine and got another note 9 thinking that I would try it without doing the first update. Unfortunately that software update thing popped up while I was using the phone and I hit continue by mistake. I am kind of thinking about returning this one and getting the s9 plus if I still have this crappy battery life.
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I'm not a battery life hawk,but,there's a few things you can do without crippling your phone (some already mentioned) before throwing in the towel.
1) Go to each app in SETTINGS > APPS > MOBILE DATA & turn off ALLOW BACKGROUND DATA USAGE on apps that have this option & where you're absolutely sure this will not impact something important to your usage.
2) Package Disabler Pro was already mentioned,it's well worth the price of admission. This is where you'll likely see the biggest improvement,surely no one here uses every single feature/app on any phone,force stop & disable what you're not using.
3) Again,I'm not a battery stat ninja,I just use my phone as I see fit,but,others have suggested try using FHD instead of WQHD for screen resolution. I myself use WQHD,but,I'm content with my battery life,however,I'd give it a try if I felt the need.
4) If you have NFC on,turn it off until you need to use it,access to it is quick & easy. I myself do not use NFC,but,even if I did,I can't imagine I'd use it to the point to where I'd leave it on 24/7 for convenience of use.
What's important to your usage is in the eye of the beholder,so,that's the extent of my recommendations for battery recommendations. The few I've mentioned should net some improvement without negatively affecting your routine usage.

Limeybastard said:
Try Wake lock detector lite. One simple adb command allows you see wakeup locks etc ..
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Is this the app you're speaking of:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot&hl=en_US

KOLIOSIS said:
Is this the app you're speaking of:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot&hl=en_US
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Yes. But it seems to stop working once the battery level reaches a certain point. I think it was somewhere below 80% , probably 60% . I installed it last night.
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Limeybastard said:
Yes. But it seems to stop working once the battery level reaches a certain point. I think it was somewhere below 80% , probably 60% . I installed it last night.
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THX,gonna give it a go. :good:
I may drop the developer a line,since the app hasn't been updated in a while.
Perhaps there's been some changes in Android 8 that haven't been addressed.
Regardless,I'm gonna try it out.

KOLIOSIS said:
Is this the app you're speaking of:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector.noroot&hl=en_US
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I'm trying to ascertain which one to use. Apparently this app shows all wakelocks whereas better battery stats only shows partial wakelocks, from the small amount of research that I've done.
The dev apparently doesn't respond and has abandoned the app, again from research I've done
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I am trying a rundown tomorrow with power save. Just CPU and screen brightness. I left resolution and network usage on. I don't think brightness does much. It is supposed to be -10% but I have trained my auto brightness some and I have been having to turn it up. So I think only speed limiter CPU 70% is at play.