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Ok, I have a question for everyone out there..
I currently have a Galaxy Nexus and am qualified for an upgrade on Verizon... I was thinking about the HTC One, but the Moto X software (near stock + moto features), but comparing the specs, the Moto X specs are very very similar to that which I already have on the GNex. My question is whether it is really worth the $ to upgrade from a Galaxy Nexus to the Moto X?
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Kaz
Watch some reviews on youtube or read some articles. You will soon realise that its far superior
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Trust me, the specs are not similar at all. This is the best performing phone I've ever owned, and I had both the GS4 and the HTC One.
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Speaking as someone who has owned a Gnex you won't be disappointed unless you're a flashaholic. I had the GSM Gnex so it was a little bit different than the Verizon model but close enough for comparison sake. The X is faster, has better battery life, and just feels better in your hand. Even though the screen is the same size it feels smaller. The connection quality is better both radio and wifi-wise. Camera-wise I haven't taken enough pictures to say.
The Galaxy Nexus and this phone aren't playing in the same league. About the only thing similar between them is that they both offer a stock UI experience. There's just no comparison otherwise. For the record, the Moto X is also noticeably better and faster than the Nexus 4, which I had since November last year, so please don't make the same mistake as the uninformed. Just because its 2 cores vs 2 cores, doesn't mean they're on the same playing field. Its like saying the Intel Core-i7 haswell processor is on par with the Core 2 Quad from a few years ago.
Take everything you think you know about specs and forget it. On paper this phone is a ho hum mid range device, but that's the only place that description holds water. This phone is easily the best device on the market today. The only two things I miss about the one I've replaced with the Moto X are the viewability of the screen when outdoors and the superior front facing stereo speakers. This phone is fast, sips battery, and feels great in my hands. I absolutely love it and have no regrets replacing my one with it
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awesome. thanks, guys!
Far far far superior than the Gnex!
I love my moto x over my gnex.
Gotta agree with everyone. This thing is hands down the best phone I've owned.
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it is leagues better than the gnex.. battery alone blows it out of the water
I agree with all the comments here. There really is no comparison. I have been very impressed. Perhaps most noticeable to me is how quick the Chrome browser is. It was a dog on my GNex.
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Would you trade your 16gb x for a 32gb HTC one? Why or why not
I'm not sure which is better and if I should take the HTC. I haven't opened the x yet
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Would you trade your 16gb x for a 32gb HTC one? Why or why not
I'm not sure which is better and if I should take the HTC. I haven't opened the x yet
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given HTC's track record, the sheer size of the phone and the HTC skin, personally i wouldn't. have you played with one yet? have you played with an X?
i don't understand why people buy anything (let alone phones) without knowing that's the choice they want. i can understand remorse after the latest/greatest, etc., etc., blah blah, but if you've done any research, would that have swayed your decision to start? did you want a One, but couldn't afford it? Did someone hand you an X? are there specs/features on the One you wish the X had that's causing your decision?
I won the x, I didn't buy it.
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I won the x, I didn't buy it.
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and there you have it.
i think the X is a great phone. if someone wants to trade their used One for your brand new X, you should be asking yourself why.
also, if you don't want the X, you can sell it online and get whatever phone you want for full retail.
Hey, ive got a one. I would say if youre more music/want some more rapid dev, go for the one. If you dont want sense, thats cool, just flip to GPe and youre good. Theres an abundance of kernels, ROMs, and just all around great Dev for it. Its already rolling out unofficial 4.4.2. My advice is get the AT&T because thats the dev one.
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If you dont mind me asking, how much would you be willing to sell the X for? I know i can get one for $75 at costco, for the 16gb all black, but id be willing to set up some kind of reasonable deal for more or something, if youd be willing to sell. Since you can buy a One for i think $50 (or something last time i saw at the mall) youd still make a profit no matter what. And get that new phone
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Hey, ive got a one. I would say if youre more music/want some more rapid dev, go for the one. If you dont want sense, thats cool, just flip to GPe and youre good. Theres an abundance of kernels, ROMs, and just all around great Dev for it. Its already rolling out unofficial 4.4.2. My advice is get the AT&T because thats the dev one.
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If you dont mind me asking, how much would you be willing to sell the X for? I know i can get one for $75 at costco, for the 16gb all black, but id be willing to set up some kind of reasonable deal for more or something, if youd be willing to sell. Since you can buy a One for i think $50 (or something last time i saw at the mall) youd still make a profit no matter what. And get that new phone
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just remember, you're talking subsidized, locked contract pricing. OP can sell his X for full retail on eBay or Swappa or something similar.
I have both, and this is what I would say:
I prefer the Moto X as a day to day device overall, though you really can't go wrong with either device. The Moto X excels at being a very useful handset that has features I genuinely use all the time. Active Notifications is the best thing since sliced bread, especially if you use your device for work. It really helps you triage items you need to address quickly, at a glance. The voice activation is also great if you do a lot of driving and can't be holding your device (which is against the law where I live).
The other item worth noting is that the size difference is pretty big. The Moto X is a very, very compact device for its screen size, and is the more easily pocketable of the two, and much easier to use one handed. The One is actually quite big for the screen size it has, though it still rests nicely in the hand. And of course the One is just gorgeous as a device, the aluminum casing is stunning.
Where the One really shines is as a media device. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, probably the best on a mobile device today. The speakers are also amazing, with great volume and clear sound. I like the screen on the Moto X despite the lower resolution (I like amoled screens a lot), and the difference in quality isn't as pronounced unless you are directly comparing them, but the One is clearly in a league of its own here.
Basically, it comes down to what you value and what you plan on doing with your device. If you are looking at more of a day to day tool that has great features that help productivity in a nice compact package, stick with the Moto X.
If you are looking at something more for fun, videos, games and music, and don't mind the extra size, the One may be the better choice.
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just remember, you're talking subsidized, locked contract pricing. OP can sell his X for full retail on eBay or Swappa or something similar.
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Didnt think of that. Entirely true. For some reasonni assumed he was talking about one for a specific carrier, i dont know why.
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I have both, and this is what I would say:
I prefer the Moto X as a day to day device overall, though you really can't go wrong with either device. The Moto X excels at being a very useful handset that has features I genuinely use all the time. Active Notifications is the best thing since sliced bread, especially if you use your device for work. It really helps you triage items you need to address quickly, at a glance. The voice activation is also great if you do a lot of driving and can't be holding your device (which is against the law where I live).
The other item worth noting is that the size difference is pretty big. The Moto X is a very, very compact device for its screen size, and is the more easily pocketable of the two, and much easier to use one handed. The One is actually quite big for the screen size it has, though it still rests nicely in the hand. And of course the One is just gorgeous as a device, the aluminum casing is stunning.
Where the One really shines is as a media device. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, probably the best on a mobile device today. The speakers are also amazing, with great volume and clear sound. I like the screen on the Moto X despite the lower resolution (I like amoled screens a lot), and the difference in quality isn't as pronounced unless you are directly comparing them, but the One is clearly in a league of its own here.
Basically, it comes down to what you value and what you plan on doing with your device. If you are looking at more of a day to day tool that has great features that help productivity in a nice compact package, stick with the Moto X.
If you are looking at something more for fun, videos, games and music, and don't mind the extra size, the One may be the better choice.
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What is your opinion on the difference between camera and battery life?
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What is your opinion on the difference between camera and battery life?
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I am not a shutterbug, so take anything I say in regards to camera with a grain of salt. My opinion is that the Moto X takes better daytime pictures and the One takes better low light pictures. Neither one produces anything amazing. The One has Zoe, which is a cool feature that helps you get the perfect shot, while the Moto X has the double wrist flick to start the camera.
If I had to pick a winner it would be the Moto X, for my use, which is just the occasional snapshot at get togethers or when I need to remember something.
Battery life is better on the Moto X in most things. Standby time is better on the Moto X. Video is better on the Moto X. Gaming is better on the Moto X. The One does seem to do better when it comes to network related activity like heavy web surfing or streaming music.
Neither one is a best in class when it comes to battery, but either one will likely get any but the heaviest of user through the day.
I just got an X 2 weeks ago.... And am very happy.
What I did... And my advice to you... Read through the one XDA section thoroughly and the X.... You'll get a good feel for each phones strengths and weaknesses.
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It's tough speaking longevity wise too because the x is 16gb and one is 32
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I changed over from a One to an X and I don't have any regrets (aside from some annoyances with 4.4 but that's a different subject), the X is a fantastic phone. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I agree with jellmoo on the camera, the X takes some pretty good pictures in decent lighting, better than the One but the One takes better shots in low light plus it has many more options and settings. The One has the better speakers though the X's speaker is clear and loud as well. The One's screen is very good but I personally prefer the X's OLED; if you value absolute clarity the One's screen is better, if you value color and contrast the X's is better. I personally prefer some of the Sense apps over the X's/Google's/alternatives such as the dialer, SMS, email and the customized Sense browser is far far superior to Chrome in every way. It also has the IR port and TV app plus radio. The X has active notifications which I love, the always listening search, better battery life, stock for all that entails good and bad as well as some useful stuff like Assist. The main reason I got the X over the One is because of its size as well as the fact that the One CANNOT be repaired in any way, once its battery dies it becomes an expensive paperweight which I think HTC should be flogged for personally. I did love my One though.
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I changed over from a One to an X and I don't have any regrets (aside from some annoyances with 4.4 but that's a different subject), the X is a fantastic phone. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I agree with jellmoo on the camera, the X takes some pretty good pictures in decent lighting, better than the One but the One takes better shots in low light plus it has many more options and settings. The One has the better speakers though the X's speaker is clear and loud as well. The One's screen is very good but I personally prefer the X's OLED; if you value absolute clarity the One's screen is better, if you value color and contrast the X's is better. I personally prefer some of the Sense apps over the X's/Google's/alternatives such as the dialer, SMS, email and the customized Sense browser is far far superior to Chrome in every way. It also has the IR port and TV app plus radio. The X has active notifications which I love, the always listening search, better battery life, stock for all that entails good and bad as well as some useful stuff like Assist. The main reason I got the X over the One is because of its size as well as the fact that the One CANNOT be repaired in any way, once its battery dies it becomes an expensive paperweight which I think HTC should be flogged for personally. I did love my One though.
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Do you find yourself actually using the Moto features?
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I use active notifications all the time, it's great. I didn't think I would use the always listening but I have quite a bit, it's actually useful especially for doing things like sending SMS messages hands free or setting alarms.
I'm wondering being a dual core, vs the quad of the HTC, if it will be future proof as apps and games will require more power/computing?
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I'm wondering being a dual core, vs the quad of the HTC, if it will be future proof as apps and games will require more power/computing?
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you're fighting an invalid argument. the X has a quad core gpu and a dual core cpu. plus it has dedicated CPUs for other things like listening service and radio. most phones don't have those additional CPUs and rely solely on the dual/quad core to do all of the work.
there is nothing "yesterday" about the X8's SoC design. its the best in its class.
I had the One and now I have the X. There is no contest, the X is the superior device in every regard. The One has a nice albeit cumbersome body, but aside from that it is just another Android phone. The X on the other hand just oozes innovation. From the X8 chip to the in hand feel to the X specific features- everything has a purpose and nothing is arbitrary. It has superior performance and battery life. Games play better. It's faster in normal use, day to day things. In other words there is no way in hell I would make that trade.
And just a little booster here- I also have the Nexus 5 which is ridiculously fast and just destroys the One all across the board- I prefer the X to the N5.
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I had the One and now I have the X. There is no contest, the X is the superior device in every regard. The One has a nice albeit cumbersome body, but aside from that it is just another Android phone. The X on the other hand just oozes innovation. From the X8 chip to the in hand feel to the X specific features- everything has a purpose and nothing is arbitrary. It has superior performance and battery life. Games play better. It's faster in normal use, day to day things. In other words there is no way in hell I would make that trade.
And just a little booster here- I also have the Nexus 5 which is ridiculously fast and just destroys the One all across the board- I prefer the X to the N5.
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I have also owned the three phones you mentioned and prefer the X. The Nexus 5 was quite nice but I like the form factor and battery life of the X more. Short of that, you touched on many things that I agree with completely.
I currently have a Note 3 (Verizon) and I'm thinking about selling it and grabbing the Developer Edition Moto X ...
I don't find myself utilizing the Note Series features all that much anymore (SPen, Multi Window, etc) and use very little of the Samsung features offered. Call quality and data connectivity have been ify for me lately and I know Moto can't be beat in that department.
I'm concerned about the reduction in screen real estate for sure (ironic because the larger form factor was my concern when going to the Note 2 LOL). So, I thought I would see if any former Note 3 users made the switch and get their input ...
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Note 3 .... that is all!!
I switched from a Note 3. I bought the X for the hell of it and never picked the Note 3 back up. I just factory reset it and handed it to the wife. You won't miss that thing for a second. We're RVing for the winter and the spot we're in is really iffy on Verizon service. The note 3 is struggling to simply send a text and my X has 1-2 bars of 4g (enough to tether for some Netflix). DO IT!!
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I currently have a Note 3 (Verizon) and I'm thinking about selling it and grabbing the Developer Edition Moto X ...
I don't find myself utilizing the Note Series features all that much anymore (SPen, Multi Window, etc) and use very little of the Samsung features offered. Call quality and data connectivity have been ify for me lately and I know Moto can't be beat in that department.
I'm concerned about the reduction in screen real estate for sure (ironic because the larger form factor was my concern when going to the Note 2 LOL). So, I thought I would see if any former Note 3 users made the switch and get their input ...
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Note 3 .... that is all!!
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I switched from a Note 3. I bought the X for the hell of it and never picked the Note 3 back up. I just factory reset it and handed it to the wife. You won't miss that thing for a second. We're RVing for the winter and the spot we're in is really iffy on Verizon service. The note 3 is struggling to simply send a text and my X has 1-2 bars of 4g (enough to tether for some Netflix). DO IT!!
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Pretty much the same scenario here. Had the Note 3 and gave it to the wife when I got a cyber Monday deal X. Don't get me wrong...a 32gb Note 3 with a 64gb sd and 5.7 inch screen was quite nice (only ever used a little over half available storage) I absolutely prefer the X. It's just perfectly usable.
I picked up one free for my wife with an early upgrade. She is satisfied with her gs3. So only time will tell. I use my lg g2 more than my note 3 anyway.
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I have never personally owned a note 3, but my girlfriend has one so I've played around with it. I used to have an s3 and the only thing i missed was external battery and sd card. Other than that, I wouldn't trade my Moto x for anything. Features like active display and touchless control and Motos almost stock experience and fast updates sure does make it hard for me to like any other phone.
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Good stuff!! Thanks for the feedback all!! I may go to a local Verizon store today and mess around with one ... I'm torn because I really like the N3 (aside from depleted signal as compared to N2) but the form factor of the N3 is not like the N2 either, not as comfortable in the hand as the N2 was. Hard to explain LOL
I may sit tight and see what the KitKat upgrade does for the N3 signal-wise, if anything. Or Sammy and Verizon may drag their feet on the update and piss me off prompting me to get the Moto X LOL
Thanks again for all your thoughts/input!!
I just sold my note 2 and my Moto X dev. edition will be here friday.
I had a Note 2, then an HTC One, then went to my current Note 3. I went back because although I DESPISE Touchwiz, I couldn't overlook the multiwindow/pen window features. For the past few months, I've stopped using those features and tried other apps for that kind of multitasking. Between the apps Viral, NinjaSMS, and Floating Apps (caught it on sale for a dollar, a complete steal), I am completely comfortable not using the Touchwiz multiapp features. And frankly, I'm over 5+ inch phones.
Now I was considering dumping this for a Nexus 5, I completely wrote off the X as a mid-tier forgettable phone. But across the net, people just never stopped talking about it, and after reading about it, I think it will be perfect. I'm looking forward to the Touchless Controls, especially as I've been using Tasker and Autovoice a lot. I have OpenMic+, but it's, of course, no substitute. I was worried about it being too small but I played with it in a Best Buy. It's fine, and the 720p screen is fine. And since I don't need roms anymore with GravityBox, and I've always been a software over hardware guy, I think the X Developer Edition will be perfect.
Sold my n2 for the x. Couldn't be happier
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Question I forgot to ask ... How's the camera on the X? Loved my N2 camera not so pleased with N3 camera. However, I owned Motorola phones before and the camera was always a friggin turd! (I'm looking at you Razr Maxx HD) ... so, has Moto improved their camera yet?
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Question I forgot to ask ... How's the camera on the X? Loved my N2 camera not so pleased with N3 camera. However, I owned Motorola phones before and the camera was always a friggin turd! (I'm looking at you Razr Maxx HD) ... so, has Moto improved their camera yet?
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It's not the best, but I've heard that, since the update, it's no slouch. There's a "Pictures Taken With the X" thread on the next page with some great shots, especially on the last couple pages.
Man, I probably should have went to my local Verizon store and played with the X prior to posting this thread LOL
DAMN that's one tiny phone!! There is no way in the world I can go to a phone that small again after dealing with the Note 2 and now the Note 3!! I may be able to do the Droid Maxx, but even that might be tough ... these phablets have spoiled me I tell ya LOL
I'm looking at selling my Note 3 and moving to the Moto X right now myself so this was a nice thread to find. I like the screen, and the storage (64 gig card here + 32 gig internal) but the signal and gps quality of the Note 3 just cant match anything Moto puts out and the X has some features I think I will really use unlike the features found on the Note 3 that I use some of rarely.
Local market is pretty empty for a 32 gig model Moto X but as soon as I can find one I'm doing a swap + cash or just outright selling the Note 3 and buying the Moto X.
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I'm looking at selling my Note 3 and moving to the Moto X right now myself so this was a nice thread to find. I like the screen, and the storage (64 gig card here + 32 gig internal) but the signal and gps quality of the Note 3 just cant match anything Moto puts out and the X has some features I think I will really use unlike the features found on the Note 3 that I use some of rarely.
Local market is pretty empty for a 32 gig model Moto X but as soon as I can find one I'm doing a swap + cash or just outright selling the Note 3 and buying the Moto X.
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I agree about the many useless (to me anyway) Note 3 features and signal woes, but I just don't think I can go THAT small!
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I agree about the many useless (to me anyway) Note 3 features and signal woes, but I just don't think I can go THAT small!
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That's what she said? Alright, now that I got that out of my system, I know its smaller but I am looking fwd to one handing a device easily again. I'm 6'1" and have gigantic hands (2xl motorcycle gloves) and I have trouble one handing this device. Granted NFL mobile and movies look amazing on the Note 3 but the ability to use one hand to grab the phone, unlock it, click on the dialer, punch in the number and hit call is something I cant do with the Note 3. And the Moto X while smaller, well it isn't like its Droid Eris or iPhone screen sized lol.
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That's what she said? Alright, now that I got that out of my system, I know its smaller but I am looking fwd to one handing a device easily again. I'm 6'1" and have gigantic hands (2xl motorcycle gloves) and I have trouble one handing this device. Granted NFL mobile and movies look amazing on the Note 3 but the ability to use one hand to grab the phone, unlock it, click on the dialer, punch in the number and hit call is something I cant do with the Note 3. And the Moto X while smaller, well it isn't like its Droid Eris or iPhone screen sized lol.
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LOL ... I'm right at 6' tall as well and I've always been told I have large hands (the ladies love large hands HAHA) and, while it's not easy, I can manage to do certain things one handed on the N3. But, when I went into the Verizon store to play with the X there was just no way I could type on that phone! After an typing for too long the hair on my thumb knuckles might catch on fire from all the friction LOL (I'm a hairy Italian LOL)
I liked the feel of the Droid Maxx, but sadly it's priced so high there's no way I could sell the Note 3 at a price that could offset the price of the Maxx ... Guess I have to live with the N3 and pray an update fixes things for me.
Typing is so old school, you should try swiping around the keyboard. The Moto X screen is the perfect size for it, it is very fast and works great one handed.
I'm not a very good speller, so swiping never did work out well for me LOL
I do use voice to text a lot, but that's not convenient at the office
The touchless controls and interactive display of the Moto X is very intriguing! Plus I really like the new direction and approach Motorola has taken lately ... Unlike Samsung which continues with an Apple-like confining experience. (was reading how the KitKat update "broke" third party accessories! Lame!!)
Note 3 .... that is all!!
I know it isn't exactly the same but I've come from a Galaxy Note 1 to Nexus 4 to Moto X. I told myself that I would mess around with the Nexus 4 and root it and have the X as a backup. Boy was I wrong.
Now I really did love the sheer gigantic size of the Note, mostly because it fit in my hands pretty much perfectly, but there is something about the curved back and dimple in the back of the Moto X that just forces me to hold onto it for as long as I can! In a way I do wish the phone was a bit bigger as it is a bit awkward to grasp at times, but at the same time I prefer a smaller phone for single handed use.
Battery life was a HUGE issue for me and I was presently surprised by a good 13-17 hours of use on a slow day (which is perfect!) LTE just made it so much better (4g on Nexus 4 yuck!).
The last and probably the most important reason why I'm not going back is the built in software. Now I really see the appeal of Multi-window on the Note, but from there the Moto X wins. Active notifications are amazing!! I do not think I could go back to and LED or turning on the screen. Touch less controls I find somewhat gimmicky at times (Google now is somewhat limited where I live in Canada) but is really cool when you can tell who is phoning when you are driving. The always listening function makes up for this however. The flicking of the wrist to start the camera is a strange motion that doesn't always work the first time but is extremely convenient.
Personally if I could afford the Note 3 I would probably give it a shot. However as I have a Nexus 7, if I really want a big screen at that moment I just fire up a portable hotspot and go from there. I don't think I would be giving this phone up unless Samsung makes a Note with their version of active notifications and Touch less control. Just my two cents though! Everyone have a good day!
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I know it isn't exactly the same but I've come from a Galaxy Note 1 to Nexus 4 to Moto X. I told myself that I would mess around with the Nexus 4 and root it and have the X as a backup. Boy was I wrong.
Now I really did love the sheer gigantic size of the Note, mostly because it fit in my hands pretty much perfectly, but there is something about the curved back and dimple in the back of the Moto X that just forces me to hold onto it for as long as I can! In a way I do wish the phone was a bit bigger as it is a bit awkward to grasp at times, but at the same time I prefer a smaller phone for single handed use.
Battery life was a HUGE issue for me and I was presently surprised by a good 13-17 hours of use on a slow day (which is perfect!) LTE just made it so much better (4g on Nexus 4 yuck!).
The last and probably the most important reason why I'm not going back is the built in software. Now I really see the appeal of Multi-window on the Note, but from there the Moto X wins. Active notifications are amazing!! I do not think I could go back to and LED or turning on the screen. Touch less controls I find somewhat gimmicky at times (Google now is somewhat limited where I live in Canada) but is really cool when you can tell who is phoning when you are driving. The always listening function makes up for this however. The flicking of the wrist to start the camera is a strange motion that doesn't always work the first time but is extremely convenient.
Personally if I could afford the Note 3 I would probably give it a shot. However as I have a Nexus 7, if I really want a big screen at that moment I just fire up a portable hotspot and go from there. I don't think I would be giving this phone up unless Samsung makes a Note with their version of active notifications and Touch less control. Just my two cents though! Everyone have a good day!
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Nice write up! Lots of interesting points you've made ... thanks for the input!
Multi-Window, Pen Window and pop-up browser are Note 3 features I would truly miss, but honestly, I did without them before and probably could do without them again (but do I want too LOL) ... I really hope Motorola comes out with a larger device that offers the same features as the Moto X ... the size of the X is really the only thing holding me back right now. Even if it were slightly bigger, say the size of the Droid Maxx or Ultra I would not hesitate ...
I've been going back and forth between the Moto X and HTC M8 for a while, and I'm really not sure which one to buy and play around with. I have a $60 off .edu coupon for the X so that would bring it to $390 as compared to $650 for the HTC M8. I've got a pre order for the M8 right now, and I can cancel until Wednesday this week. I'm not sure about the fact that the Moto X is getting kinda old, but the Active Listening is soooo cool. I've used both and I really couldn't pick a favorite.
So the question is:
Is the Moto X still a worthy purchase being a little over halfway through it's life cycle?
Thanks!
I still think my X is the best phone I have. Its responsive, and fits my hand best, and works best for single handed operation. I had a One (M7) 30demo before the X. It was ok, but wasn't comfortable and felt clumsy in my hand. With the One (M8) having a larger screen, single handed use would still be an issue for me.
(I'm 6'1" with average sized hands for someone this height)
Having the faster processor, screen, possibly better camera, makes the One (M8) attractive. but comfort in every day use is main sticking point for me.
As for the X being old. Yeah, its about 1/2 through its life cycle since Moto said they were working on a replacement. But I still think its a great phone.
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I still think my X is the best phone I have. Its responsive, and fits my hand best, and works best for single handed operation. I had a One (M7) 30demo before the X. It was ok, but wasn't comfortable and felt clumsy in my hand. With the One (M8) having a larger screen, single handed use would still be an issue for me.
(I'm 6'1" with average sized hands for someone this height)
Having the faster processor, screen, possibly better camera, makes the One (M8) attractive. but comfort in every day use is main sticking point for me.
As for the X being old. Yeah, its about 1/2 through its life cycle since Moto said they were working on a replacement. But I still think its a great phone.
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Thanks for the insight! I used the M8 at the Verizon store and found it was much easier to use than the M7 one handed. I'm sure the Moto X has better single-hand operation, but it is greatly improved on the M8 (I'm 6'3" with pretty long fingers). I will surely buy the Moto X 2, it's just deciding on the phone that will hold me over until then . With the S801, I think the M8 and X are about the same in responsiveness (Moto was ahead for a while with S600 chips in phones), but the M8 still has a superior screen.
How often do you use the Active Listening voice control?
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Thanks for the insight! I used the M8 at the Verizon store and found it was much easier to use than the M7 one handed. I'm sure the Moto X has better single-hand operation, but it is greatly improved on the M8 (I'm 6'3" with pretty long fingers). I will surely buy the Moto X 2, it's just deciding on the phone that will hold me over until then . With the S801, I think the M8 and X are about the same in responsiveness (Moto was ahead for a while with S600 chips in phones), but the M8 still has a superior screen.
How often do you use the Active Listening voice control?
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I agree with kidjoe, I've used an M7 not M8 and after reading the glowing reviews for the M7. I was shocked how everything was average, from battery life to Ultra Pixel camera
Here are the pros vs cons for my Moto GSM Unlocked version
PROS
-Fits great in hand
-voiceless controls work wonderful even in semi noisy environments
-the contour of the phone
-Active display really is superb
-Battery life, I get 3-5 hours screen on with moderate usage, battery always last a day, and running 4.4 it's a beast in standby! 4.2.2 eeehhh..
-Moto customer service is great! I think they understand they're the underdog and are acting accordingly.
-the price!
-The hardware and software runs smooth
-unlockable bootloader vis Moto's website
CONS
-Inline messaging bug using the email app
-I have been having MMS problems with 3 Moto X I received, most don't send :'( (I wanna blame T-mobile but still am not sure yet)
-Camera doesn't have digital or optical stabilization so you'll need steady hands and patience!
p.s. I've gotten a free case and SOL headphones from talking with Reps, if you have a gripe a bout a deal or one day shipping or something you could manage to get a freebie
Any questions feel free to ask.
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...How often do you use the Active Listening voice control?
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I use it in the car to read me notifications, or "whats up" ... along with calling and stuff. But not much else.
I don't like SPEAKING out loud with my phone in public.
drago10029 said:
I agree with kidjoe, I've used an M7 not M8 and after reading the glowing reviews for the M7. I was shocked how everything was average, from battery life to Ultra Pixel camera
Here are the pros vs cons for my Moto GSM Unlocked version
PROS
-Fits great in hand
-voiceless controls work wonderful even in semi noisy environments
-the contour of the phone
-Active display really is superb
-Battery life, I get 3-5 hours screen on with moderate usage, battery always last a day, and running 4.4 it's a beast in standby! 4.2.2 eeehhh..
-Moto customer service is great! I think they understand they're the underdog and are acting accordingly.
-the price!
-The hardware and software runs smooth
-unlockable bootloader vis Moto's website
CONS
-Inline messaging bug using the email app
-I have been having MMS problems with 3 Moto X I received, most don't send :'( (I wanna blame T-mobile but still am not sure yet)
-Camera doesn't have digital or optical stabilization so you'll need steady hands and patience!
p.s. I've gotten a free case and SOL headphones from talking with Reps, if you have a gripe a bout a deal or one day shipping or something you could manage to get a freebie
Any questions feel free to ask.
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Thanks! From what I've heard, the M8 actually has much better battery life than the M7, and the Moto's camera is probably about as good as the M8's. Your cons seem to be fairly minor and that's a good thing
M8 doesn't have OIS either, so that's a wash.
From some comparisons I've seen, the consensus is that the M8 is better just because it's so much newer and has better hardware. TBH that better hardware probably finally caught it up to the Moto X's stellar performance XD.
These phones are both so great it's really hard to decide :/
But the question is, is it a worthy purchase? What would you say?
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Thanks! From what I've heard, the M8 actually has much better battery life than the M7, and the Moto's camera is probably about as good as the M8's. Your cons seem to be fairly minor and that's a good thing
M8 doesn't have OIS either, so that's a wash.
From some comparisons I've seen, the consensus is that the M8 is better just because it's so much newer and has better hardware. TBH that better hardware probably finally caught it up to the Moto X's stellar performance XD.
These phones are both so great it's really hard to decide :/
But the question is, is it a worthy purchase? What would you say?
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Honestly there's another factor. an important one. The XDA factor as you would know since you're posting here on XDA.
Price and performance, battery life would always leave me with the Moto X. But as you've seen the development is very quiet around these forums sadly. So if ROMs and such are really important you may want to cancel the pre-order and see what development is like for the M8.
Again this is coming from a guy who values efficiency over everything. I knew Moto X had lower specs but being the genius I am (not really) I know specs don't matter, at least higher specs don't. When a phone boast things like that it usually means it's potentially riding on that for success rather than good software/usability or what I call efficiency.
Again, any question feel free. My moto X is an open book for you and I love helping people make the best choice for them.
Thanks! Honestly, I usually stick with stock on my phones (I only root to enable AdAway and fix SD permissions), so development isn't that big of a deal. I've noticed there's not much Dev action on the Moto X, but again: it isn't too big of a deal for me. Though, from what I've seen in the M8 forum, there is already getting to be a good amount of Dev following.
So some questions now:
How do you like the screen? Are the pixels noticeable when reading text? How is it outdoors?
I'm using the iPhone 5s as my daily driver, and the ~320PPI screen isn't too bad. Thing is, it has one of the highest quality IPS displays on the market.
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If the one and s5 don't do it for you id get a used x to last you the next 5-6 months until the new x's are announced and maybe a new nexus?
I have the $60 off coupon, so I could get an unlocked/Dev 32GB for $390. I'd go that way if I got a Moto.
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Thanks! Honestly, I usually stick with stock on my phones (I only root to enable AdAway and fix SD permissions), so development isn't that big of a deal. I've noticed there's not much Dev action on the Moto X, but again: it isn't too big of a deal for me. Though, from what I've seen in the M8 forum, there is already getting to be a good amount of Dev following.
So some questions now:
How do you like the screen? Are the pixels noticeable when reading text? How is it outdoors?
I'm using the iPhone 5s as my daily driver, and the ~320PPI screen isn't too bad. Thing is, it has one of the highest quality IPS displays on the market.
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The screen looks crisp. I rarely use full brightness outdoors. after about 70% it doesn't make too big a difference to me. And there honestly the 1080p, 720p things are gimmicky. People say they notice the difference but from the S3 to the Moto X to the M7 I've used the sharpness are all on par with each other. Including the IPS on iPhone 5/5S which my girlfriend has. they are all crisp screens.
video look great! The headphone volume is a little low though, i solved that with Viper4android (highly recommend for music lovers). Call quality is actually really really clear! It has 3 mics on it.
That answer your question?
Yep perfectly! But I think I've decided to go with the M8 for these next few months. For a couple of reasons:
1. When I used the Moto X at Verizon, the small screen really reminded me of my iPhone. 5in isn't much bigger than 4.7, but especially with the on screen buttons on a black bar (not always on, but I still noticed), it felt somewhat small to me.
2. My last Android phone was the S4 GPE, and I'm a little tired of the stock-like interface, and being quite reluctant to use ROMs I'd like to give Sense 6 a good try for a while. Moto 360 and X 2 are almost guaranteed to be on my list this year though
Thanks so much for your help!
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Yep perfectly! But I think I've decided to go with the M8 for these next few months. For a couple of reasons:
1. When I used the Moto X at Verizon, the small screen really reminded me of my iPhone. 5in isn't much bigger than 4.7, but especially with the on screen buttons on a black bar (not always on, but I still noticed), it felt somewhat small to me.
2. My last Android phone was the S4 GPE, and I'm a little tired of the stock-like interface, and being quite reluctant to use ROMs I'd like to give Sense 6 a good try for a while. Moto 360 and X 2 are almost guaranteed to be on my list this year though
Thanks so much for your help!
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You got it! glad you found something you like.
SolarTrans said:
I've been going back and forth between the Moto X and HTC M8 for a while, and I'm really not sure which one to buy and play around with. I have a $60 off .edu coupon for the X so that would bring it to $390 as compared to $650 for the HTC M8. I've got a pre order for the M8 right now, and I can cancel until Wednesday this week. I'm not sure about the fact that the Moto X is getting kinda old, but the Active Listening is soooo cool. I've used both and I really couldn't pick a favorite.
So the question is:
Is the Moto X still a worthy purchase being a little over halfway through it's life cycle?
Thanks!
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Ok. So I dropped my dev moto x on concrete and the screen broke, my fault. So I decided I was going to upgrade to an HTC m8 with the Dot Case.
Well. I just sent in my Moto x to be repaired, because I am going to return the m8.
1. The M8 is a GREAT phone. Great camera, speed, memory expansion.
But in the end I love my Moto X (this is only my opinion)
Why I want my Moto X back? Active notifications, Touchless Control, Ability to mute from the power button, ability to root and remove all bloat (I am sure the HTC will be able to do this soon), size (I like a phone I can hold easily) and doesn't feel like a weight in my pocket.
The problems I had with the M8 (this is my opinion )
Rather have Google Experience than BlinkFeed (Yes I installed the APK), The quick gestures were useless to me. The car mode defaulted to the HTC music app, I use Google Music. Hard to hold comfortably. TV was good, but I already have 300 remotes, and 1 universal. Adding one more was just a pain. Sense 6 is nice, but I rather have a pure experience that I can add too, IE: Gravity Module
I always say in my opinion because I think phones are as unique as people. What I find in the M8/Moto X as useless/useful could be 100% different for someone else.
hill180 said:
Ok. So I dropped my dev moto x on concrete and the screen broke, my fault. So I decided I was going to upgrade to an HTC m8 with the Dot Case.
Well. I just sent in my Moto x to be repaired, because I am going to return the m8.
1. The M8 is a GREAT phone. Great camera, speed, memory expansion.
But in the end I love my Moto X (this is only my opinion)
Why I want my Moto X back? Active notifications, Touchless Control, Ability to mute from the power button, ability to root and remove all bloat (I am sure the HTC will be able to do this soon), size (I like a phone I can hold easily) and doesn't feel like a weight in my pocket.
The problems I had with the M8 (this is my opinion )
Rather have Google Experience than BlinkFeed (Yes I installed the APK), The quick gestures were useless to me. The car mode defaulted to the HTC music app, I use Google Music. Hard to hold comfortably. TV was good, but I already have 300 remotes, and 1 universal. Adding one more was just a pain. Sense 6 is nice, but I rather have a pure experience that I can add too, IE: Gravity Module
I always say in my opinion because I think phones are as unique as people. What I find in the M8/Moto X as useless/useful could be 100% different for someone else.
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I feel like if you play with the moto x in the store your not getting the full day to day usage and the features that help make it the #1 android phone of 2013. I know spec on sheet is all that people care about now but until you have owned the phone and then go to something else you'll want to come back to this phone.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S 4 (T-Mobile running GPE ROM) and a moto X GSM dev editon. After going back and forth a few times in the past week I keep going back to the X. Which is surprising because I used the S4 as my DD for the better part of a year and loved everything but the size.
I actually found that the performance is similar and the screen on the X looks better because its RGB and not pentile, regardless of the resolution difference.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S 4 (T-Mobile running GPE ROM) and a moto X GSM dev editon. After going back and forth a few times in the past week I keep going back to the X. Which is surprising because I used the S4 as my DD for the better part of a year and loved everything but the size.
I actually found that the performance is similar and the screen on the X looks better because its RGB and not pentile, regardless of the resolution difference.
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Huh didn't know it was RGB. The S5 (while having the best smartphone display ever made according to DisplayMate) still uses PenTile and has 305PPI for red and blue (but 432 for white and green). This is actually less than the Moto X's density, so I was kind of surprised. Displays can't really compare though, as from what I've read the Moto X just isn't as nice as other flagships in the display department
Update on the thread: I actually cancelled my M8 order because after using one again I found I really disliked the whole UI.
Any further comparison for will be with the S5, as that's where I moved my pre-order after canceling.
If one thing were to sway me towards the X from the S5, it'd be the size. The Moto X feels truly amazing (even for the few minutes in store that I tested it). The S5 is quite nice as well, but it doesn't quite match the curve of the X.
From all I've read and felt so far, the S5 and Moto X are both insanely attractive offerings. I haven't seen a single person dissatisfied with their X, and everyone (me included) who's used an S5 thought it was great.
Considering how attached to the X people are, I may just have to spend the $390 and go for it. The S5 may have better specs and be faster, but the overwhelming praise of the X is definitely something I'll consider.
Thanks all for the help so far! If anyone has any further input it'd be much appreciated.
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I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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I'm going to buy a spare moto X as I predict no phone will come come close to it in ergonomics and thin bezel size/aesthetics for a long time.
Moto X2 is almost guaranteed to have a 5 inch screen = automatic disqualification. I have bigger than average hands (can grip a basketball) but I use my phone so little that I really can;t justify carrying around a huge screen 14 hours a day for the 2 minutes it comes in handy for.
Basically all the phones released this year are sh1t aesthetically.
S5 = thick size bezels, looks like a boat
HTC M8 = MASSSSSSSSSSSSSSIVE bottom bezel, huge phone for that small (in comparison) screen
Oppo Find 7 = Too big (that's what she said)
Sony = bezels always too thick
LG G2 = buttons on the back = GTFO LG
Nexus 5 = bezels are thicker than it's twin brother than LG G2 which is unacceptable for me
iphone 6 = as per leaks the side AND top/bottom bezels are very thick
Basically after being addicted to phones since 2011 I have spent close to $4k on this stupid hobby.
Top 3 phones were:
1. Moto X
2. iphone 5
3. Nexus 4
Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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I'm in the situation your in right now. My S4's SIM tray self destructed. Needing a phone immediately and sick of using a large phone, I opted to buy the Moto X for 50 bucks.
Best phone I've ever owned. Period.
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My list of phones -> http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...3-post-your-phone-timeline-2.html#post2949873 and keep in mind, for the "Work" phones, I can pop my personal sim in and used them if I wanted.
Yes, I would still buy the X today.
Size, feel, screen, battery life, over all usability make the X my favorite device. And its great for single handed use.
My Samsungs don't feel right in my hand, and I have to shift them around too much for single handed use. Touchwiz is still too cartoony. There is a lot of bloat I don't use. The built in apps for SMS/MMS have issues when sending to non-samsung phones (S4), as does the calendar when sending invites(Note 2).
I like my BB Z10 more now that it runs Android APK's natively, and has a better camera than the X, but I like widgets and other things on the X better.
The only thing I'd change about the X is its camera in low light. It has gotten better with the software updates but its still not up to where it needs to be. That being said, for outdoors, the software improvements (rom and camera app) have made big improvements.
Oh, but if you want to Root the X, buy the developer edition, or one with an unlockable bootloader!!! It might cost you more, but you can be assured that you can root if you want.
In a heartbeat. I have always loved Motorola phones. If it wasn't for LTE I would have never got my S3. I genuinely feel like my droid x and x2 were better phones than my Galaxy S3, other than the LTE and camera.
I'd by an x right now cause there's nothing better out right now. Once the MotoX replacement comes out that might change. I'm hoping for a removable battery so I can get an extended battery.
I just bought one on eBay rather than a Nexus 5 - because no other manufacturer has really done the Active Notifications, Always-On Voice Command and the human-friendly design together just yet.
Here's to hoping Nexus 6 has all of those, though Active Notifications are unlikely on non-AMOLED phones.
Just got my X yesterday, so I guess I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase...but I'll be honest with you...I love this phone.
I have been around XDA for a while now and have owned 6 consecutive Android phones (goes without saying, I will have a sex change before I ever get an iPhone). I used to theme for several Moto phones back in the day (BIONIC/RAZR/DX). Motorola phones, in my opinion, are the best built phones out there. Mix that with Google and it's just a whole lot of awesome. From the day I rooted my original DROID I knew that I would never own another phone that I didn't root. 5 or so years later I have found myself with a phone that may never see the beautiful world of root and/or unlocked bootloaders. While that sucks, it says something about this phone. The fact that I am not regretting my decision to buy it should tell you how awesome it is. Everything about it is just sexy (besides the camera, which is nothing to write home about). As already mentioned, it is ergonomically stellar. By far the best in-hand feeling phone I've ever owned. Love the vibrant display and the nearly-vanilla android stock ROM.
To put it simply: I hate that it is locked down. But this is an incredibly solid and fun device and I could not be happier that I went with it. :good::good:
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Just got my X yesterday, so I guess I'm still in the "honeymoon" phase...but I'll be honest with you...I love this phone.
I have been around XDA for a while now and have owned 6 consecutive Android phones (goes without saying, I will have a sex change before I ever get an iPhone). I used to theme for several Moto phones back in the day (BIONIC/RAZR/DX). Motorola phones, in my opinion, are the best built phones out there. Mix that with Google and it's just a whole lot of awesome. From the day I rooted my original DROID I knew that I would never own another phone that I didn't root. 5 or so years later I have found myself with a phone that may never see the beautiful world of root and/or unlocked bootloaders. While that sucks, it says something about this phone. The fact that I am not regretting my decision to buy it should tell you how awesome it is. Everything about it is just sexy (besides the camera, which is nothing to write home about). As already mentioned, it is ergonomically stellar. By far the best in-hand feeling phone I've ever owned. Love the vibrant display and the nearly-vanilla android stock ROM.
To put it simply: I hate that it is locked down. But this is an incredibly solid and fun device and I could not be happier that I went with it. :good::good:
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You know about buying unlock codes? May not last long. If your phone is on his list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
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You know about buying unlock codes? May not last long. If your phone is on his list.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
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Yeah, mine was manufactured in September so I'm not going to go through the hassle to find out it's a no go. Thanks for looking out though!
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I actually did just receive my Moto X today. Coming from a rooted Galaxy S3 running CarbonROM and KT Kernel.
With my GS3's governor set to Interactive and the go_hispeed_load set to 50, the GS3 has smoother scrolling. But the unrooted, stock Moto X has faster app opening speed, which was pleasantly surprising.
Like many other users have said, all newer phones are simply just too big. All VZW phones are also locked, so it makes software considerations important. Moto X is as close to stock Android as you can get on-contract with Verizon and that is a huge plus IMO.
The touchless controls work surprisingly well, sometimes it doesn't fire, but it works consistently enough to be useful.
Negative:
Can't find a way to completely silence the phone. Even if I turn all volumes down to 0, if I accidentally trigger the Google Now hotword, it will beep. Bad during a test or interview.
The screen is a bit too warm. Even though the PPI is a tad higher than the GS3 and is a non-PenTile screen, white text on dark background on the Moto X looks weird. It's hard to describe but it almost seems liek as if the edges of the letters are bleeding.
My GS3 earbuds wire controls don't work.
Non-removable battery or microSD.
Camera.
I take it from what a few of you are saying is that no Moto X I buy now from the Moto Creator site or Verizon is going to be rootable if it's not a developer version, correct? If this is the case, how much extra am I going to have to spend? I need root for my root call blocker and greenify.
Also, I have been considering getting one of the wood back ones. I think they look super slick from the pictures I've see. Never seen one in person though. Any positives or negatives someone could share about the wood backs?
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jamesino said:
Can't find a way to completely silence the phone. Even if I turn all volumes down to 0, if I accidentally trigger the Google Now hotword, it will beep. Bad during a test or interview.
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Settings -> Touchless Controls ->Launch Phrase Sound [Unchecked]
Problem solved.
Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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Yes. It's by far the best phone ever made.
The only phone you should consider waiting for is the Moto X+1 or LG G3
Yes if you can find a good deal on a used one. No because its been out for 9 months already which is like 5 years in phone time. If my X broke now I would get a beater phone for summer until iPhone6 or X+1 came out.
You ask a question like this in a Moto X forum, what answer do you expect?
I have a Moto X, and if the X2 is 5 inches, I will keep using my X. Best phone I ever had.
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Hmmm, Well if I get a brighter screen on my next DE X (warranty) then yes.
I have used the S4 and unless you put CyanogenMod to it, Touchwiz is just horrible and overall it's much slower than the Moto X. It's just a night and day difference in experience. You'll find much more useful features with the Moto X. The camera is not as good, but it's the only thing you'll miss. The Moto X is still a great device, there isn't any other device out now that make me want to switch to it probably until the Moto X+1 come out.
Active notifications are just a show stopper. Being able to pull your phone out of pocket abs it shows the time without even having to wake it. Also if its sitting on the desk , just nudge it and the time appears. It's brilliant
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I've had my motox for 7 months now and I can honestly say I would buy this phone again if I had to.
It's the only phone on the market that has the features I want.
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Slayers said:
I have broke my screen on my S4 and being the way I am about phones I can't handle it anymore.
I have looked at the X because the price and I have liked Moto phones.
With all the new phones being announced would you still buy the X right now or would you wait for something else?
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The answer is yes, just ordered mine yesterday. Cant wait to get it. Moving from a HTC One.
After reading through all these comments I'm even more excited to get it. I was able to get a student discount on it and I chatted with them so they sent me a free skip.