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Most stable ROM for daily use of non techie/dev (STOCK probably best option?)

Hi,
I just got a Razr I 2nd hand. I live in Ireland and believe I'm on the EU/GB version. I'm looking for the most stable ROM as I use my phone for business and need it to be 100% reliable (no bugs if possible!) and have great battery and everything else working. I'm not a techie or dev so have no interest in installing a ROM just to test it out, I need to just be sure the ROM I choose will be reliable and wouldn't plan on ever changing it again unless there's some VAST improvements in future Android versions.
So what I'm looking for is:
Most stable ROM with no bugs and 100% reliable
Latest Android (JB?)
Phone needs to be ROOTED
I would also like to be able to remove bloat ware before installing the ROM so if there was any way I could go into the system app folder of the SD card before flashing the ROM to remove any bloatware it would be great, otherwise, I'd just use ROOT EXPLORER so not vitally important for the pre-flash removal.
Ideally I'd like to stay with stock ROM as I'd just feel more at ease using stock, so if I could somehow get exact files of 4.12 stock, clear a bit of bloatware, flash it and have a stable, rooted phone that would be perfect. I don't see any untouched stock roms of 4.12 available however, there is one "optimised" one but it seems to have a few bugs so I wouldn't be comfortable with this. Also, although I've used some technical terms above, I've absolutely no idea even how to root a phone, I use a guy from The Android Clinic to do all the difficult stuff for me like rooting
Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

cormie said:
Hi,
I just got a Razr I 2nd hand. I live in Ireland and believe I'm on the EU/GB version. I'm looking for the most stable ROM as I use my phone for business and need it to be 100% reliable (no bugs if possible!) and have great battery and everything else working. I'm not a techie or dev so have no interest in installing a ROM just to test it out, I need to just be sure the ROM I choose will be reliable and wouldn't plan on ever changing it again unless there's some VAST improvements in future Android versions.
So what I'm looking for is:
Most stable ROM with no bugs and 100% reliable
Latest Android (JB?)
Phone needs to be ROOTED
I would also like to be able to remove bloat ware before installing the ROM so if there was any way I could go into the system app folder of the SD card before flashing the ROM to remove any bloatware it would be great, otherwise, I'd just use ROOT EXPLORER so not vitally important for the pre-flash removal.
Ideally I'd like to stay with stock ROM as I'd just feel more at ease using stock, so if I could somehow get exact files of 4.12 stock, clear a bit of bloatware, flash it and have a stable, rooted phone that would be perfect. I don't see any untouched stock roms of 4.12 available however, there is one "optimised" one but it seems to have a few bugs so I wouldn't be comfortable with this. Also, although I've used some technical terms above, I've absolutely no idea even how to root a phone, I use a guy from The Android Clinic to do all the difficult stuff for me like rooting
Any feedback or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
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First, this is the wrong section to ask for it, this section its only for development, there is a section called "Questions and answers" for that.
If you want a 100% without bug rom, just use a homemade fastboot of Jb, the come pre-rooted and debloated yourself, its stock so no bugs
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Marco Lomas said:
First, this is the wrong section to ask for it, this section its only for development, there is a section called "Questions and answers" for that.
If you want a 100% without bug rom, just use a homemade fastboot of Jb, the come pre-rooted and debloated yourself, its stock so no bugs
Enviado desde mi XT890 usando Tapatalk 2
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Thanks for the reply. Ooops, didn't know it was in the wrong section, hopefully it won't be an issue.
Thanks for the suggestions, have you any idea where I could find a homemade fastboot of JB? Is that a ROM you're referring to or something else? Is it completely compatible with Razr I do you think?

Until now... as you know (i hope) humans have not yet created a rom 100% bug free, because they are HUMANS, and fail.
Every rom has bugs... including the stock ones..

raz0r1991 said:
Until now... as you know (i hope) humans have not yet created a rom 100% bug free, because they are HUMANS, and fail.
Every rom has bugs... including the stock ones..
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Haha, yes of course I can live with a few minor bugs, I guess I'd just feel safer using stock as I'm a novice with these things
Do you know is there a rooted JB ROM for Razr I that I can just download and flash through recovery? That's about all I know how to do tech wise, for rooting and all that, I need to employ the services of an expert

So I PM'd Marco who pointed me to here for what I'm after: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936512
Thanks!

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[Q] Any other ROMS for the S4 Active?

Has anybody been able to find any ROMs for the S4 Active? Preferably, the i537, but I'm willing to try anything for the GT-I9295. I know it's early, as the Safestrap method is fairly new, and the kernel can't be touched right now, so a 4.3 ROM is out of the question. I'm using the ROM listed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2406177
I'm loving stock, but I have Cyanogenmod on my Nexus and love the customization. Does anybody know of anything close to that available for the Active?

Yea I believe its ported from the International version...they call it google edition I think! If I helped ya..it dosent hurt to hit the thanks button! :good:

Actually there is a pre-release 4.3 ROM available, it's the MI2 build for the I537 and yes it's a leak from AT&T (thanks to designgears and you can find it here). Two issues with that one if you choose to use it:
1) You may not be able to update to the official OTA 4.3 expected sometime later this month (according to rumors, that is)
2) There's no working root so if you must have that, don't bother with this build just yet
There is a third issue that appears to be the most common problem with the MI2 build and that's the screenshot feature which isn't working, it's covered in the thread for the MI2 build.
Because it's a pre-release similar to the MF1 pre-release leak, it appears to not allow an OTA but since there hasn't been any 4.3 OTA updates from AT&T as of yet nobody really knows what's going to happen.
Also, if you flash that MI2 build, your only alternative will be to fall all the way back to the MF1 build since no ODIN One-click exists for the MF2 or MF3 builds, but you can switch between the MF1 and MI2 builds (confirmed by others and I've done it several times in the past week myself).
Aside from that "official" ROM leak, the only other current working option is using Safestrap on MF1/MF2/MF3 (with the appropriate kernel modules) along with the AOSP ROM provided by LeJay which you can find here.
That's pretty much it. I have the I537 as noted so I don't muck with the I9295 ROMs but I think there's at least the one CM10.2 build for it, and no, it doesn't work on the I537 even with Safestrap.
EDIT: DOH, forgot about the ROM from d8389 he just released yesterday, also made from the MI2 build and you can find that one here - that's for the I9295, btw.

br0adband said:
Actually there is a pre-release 4.3 ROM available, it's the MI2 build for the I537 and yes it's a leak from AT&T (thanks to designgears and you can find it here). Two issues with that one if you choose to use it:
1) You may not be able to update to the official OTA 4.3 expected sometime later this month (according to rumors, that is)
2) There's no working root so if you must have that, don't bother with this build just yet
There is a third issue that appears to be the most common problem with the MI2 build and that's the screenshot feature which isn't working, it's covered in the thread for the MI2 build.
Because it's a pre-release similar to the MF1 pre-release leak, it appears to not allow an OTA but since there hasn't been any 4.3 OTA updates from AT&T as of yet nobody really knows what's going to happen.
Also, if you flash that MI2 build, your only alternative will be to fall all the way back to the MF1 build since no ODIN One-click exists for the MF2 or MF3 builds, but you can switch between the MF1 and MI2 builds (confirmed by others and I've done it several times in the past week myself).
Aside from that "official" ROM leak, the only other current working option is using Safestrap on MF1/MF2/MF3 (with the appropriate kernel modules) along with the AOSP ROM provided by LeJay which you can find here.
That's pretty much it. I have the I537 as noted so I don't muck with the I9295 ROMs but I think there's at least the one CM10.2 build for it, and no, it doesn't work on the I537 even with Safestrap.
EDIT: DOH, forgot about the ROM from d8389 he just released yesterday, also made from the MI2 build and you can find that one here - that's for the I9295, btw.
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I'll keep playing the waiting game then... Maybe I can submit a request for Cyanogenmod to be made for this device.

Until the bootloader is unlocked, it's most likely not going to happen at all. It's possible that someone with enough talent can put together a CM10.1 ROM which uses the current kernels (I think, I'm not 100% sure on that), but the MI2 4.3 build now is pretty locked down as it is (no known root at the moment and it looks like Safestrap may be a no-go as well for that or future builds).
The honest truth is the GS4A is simply not popular enough to get any reaction from the CM crowd at all, unfortunately, and it's entirely possible it may not even be available for much longer given that unpopularity. It's not selling well, and the few of us that do have them are just that: few and far between.
It's sad because it's a great device; it IS an S4 with a lower resolution camera and the water-resistant aspect as well as the LCD panel (not AMOLED like the S4) which is just fine by me, I can see it better in daylight than an AMOLED anyway. But the locked bootloader basically ensures the level of interest is negligible at best, not much can be done about it unless a miracle comes along at this point.
I'm very happy with mine for many reasons, not just 'cause I got it so cheap.

br0adband said:
Until the bootloader is unlocked, it's most likely not going to happen at all. It's possible that someone with enough talent can put together a CM10.1 ROM which uses the current kernels (I think, I'm not 100% sure on that), but the MI2 4.3 build now is pretty locked down as it is (no known root at the moment and it looks like Safestrap may be a no-go as well for that or future builds).
The honest truth is the GS4A is simply not popular enough to get any reaction from the CM crowd at all, unfortunately, and it's entirely possible it may not even be available for much longer given that unpopularity. It's not selling well, and the few of us that do have them are just that: few and far between.
It's sad because it's a great device; it IS an S4 with a lower resolution camera and the water-resistant aspect as well as the LCD panel (not AMOLED like the S4) which is just fine by me, I can see it better in daylight than an AMOLED anyway. But the locked bootloader basically ensures the level of interest is negligible at best, not much can be done about it unless a miracle comes along at this point.
I'm very happy with mine for many reasons, not just 'cause I got it so cheap.
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I think our best hope is for @Hashcode to get kexec working with SafeStrap. Then we will be able to use ROMs with any kernel. Until then we're stuck with GPE 4.2.2.

Hashcode made a post or two at his blog/site stating that things are becoming incredibly tough to make such workarounds viable anymore, even to the point where it's not even worth the time and trouble to make the effort at all in some situations. I think with the GS4A, more specifically the AT&T I537 model, we could just have a device that simply isn't going to get itself cracked wide open without some small miracle happening.
Come on, someone working at Samsung... have some pity on us and drop us something to help out, will ya?

I've started a request forum here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/80004-cyanogenmod-for-the-s4-active/
If anyone would like to back me up, it'd be much appreciated.

Decided it wasn't worth the BS of heading back to Best Buy so I'll stick with MF1 for now. I did make a reply at the CM forum about the potential of someone building CM10.1 as a flashable zip for us and provided the link to the kernel source for the I537, maybe someone with some spare time might be able to create something.
I really wish I'd spent more time learning how to do that; if I had the necessary skill set I'd build it myself I suppose but I've never been into that side of the device firmware/ROM stuff.
But who knows...

I'm running Shostock v2.3 on my I537 with one of my rom slots in safestrap. i'm on MF2. of the S4 ROMs, i've only tried Shostock and Goldeneye, but i'm sure other S4 ROMs will work too. when you install one, you also have to install the modules pack and camera fix from the ported google edition thread. the only other problem is the menu and back buttons don't work out of the box with an S4 ROM because our buttons aren't capacitive. thankfully, Darkman was kind enough to show me how to fix those so they work like normal.

hokeymcf said:
I'm running Shostock v2.3 on my I537 with one of my rom slots in safestrap. i'm on MF2. of the S4 ROMs, i've only tried Shostock and Goldeneye, but i'm sure other S4 ROMs will work too. when you install one, you also have to install the modules pack and camera fix from the ported google edition thread. the only other problem is the menu and back buttons don't work out of the box with an S4 ROM because our buttons aren't capacitive. thankfully, Darkman was kind enough to show me how to fix those so they work like normal.
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Can you share how to edit ROMs to add the physical back and menu buttons? Thanks
GT-i9295(i537) running SafeStrap

yankeesfan714 said:
Can you share how to edit ROMs to add the physical back and menu buttons? Thanks
GT-i9295(i537) running SafeStrap
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well, i don't edit the ROM before flashing it. after flashing the ROM, any updates for it, the modules pack, and the camera patch, i go into /system/usr/keylayout using a file explorer, and add:
key 139 MENU
key 158 BACK
to gpio-keys.kl with a text editor. after that, reboot and they work like they should.

hokeymcf said:
well, i don't edit the ROM before flashing it. after flashing the ROM, any updates for it, the modules pack, and the camera patch, i go into /system/usr/keylayout using a file explorer, and add:
key 139 MENU
key 158 BACK
to gpio-keys.kl with a text editor. after that, reboot and they work like they should.
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Is it possible to add this to either the modules zip or the camera fix to make it easier for users? Ideally this would be added to the camera fix since I think @Hashcode is going to automate the modules in SafeStrap eventually.
On another note, I had no idea we could flash regular GS4 ROMs, this opens up a world of possibilities. I assume we can only flash 4.2.2 ROMs though?

Devo7v said:
Is it possible to add this to either the modules zip or the camera fix to make it easier for users? Ideally this would be added to the camera fix since I think @Hashcode is going to automate the modules in SafeStrap eventually.
On another note, I had no idea we could flash regular GS4 ROMs, this opens up a world of possibilities. I assume we can only flash 4.2.2 ROMs though?
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i have no idea. i could try, but it's probably a job better suited to someone who really knows what they're doing, since i'm only as good as the tutorials i find on the internet.
once again, i dunno. i'm on MF2, but shostock is MF3. so since that's different but still works, it might be possible to flash a 4.3 ROM, but the fact that i read that there's no going back once you do flash it, i haven't tried it.
i agree that it's awesome we can actually use regular s4 ROMs.

yankeesfan714 said:
Can you share how to edit ROMs to add the physical back and menu buttons? Thanks
GT-i9295(i537) running SafeStrap
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So in theory any stock based s4 4.2.2 ROM will run with this buildprop modification?
GT-i9295(i537) running SafeStrap

It's not a build.prop edit, but yeah, I think any S4 4.2.2 ROM would work.

S-Beam
Set them next to each other and use S-Beam, it's what it was designed for. Or even Bluetooth would work.

Just so everybody is aware @my-blue-snog-box has created a flashable zip file that will edit the keyboard file and get the hard keys working. It can be found here. If you try any S4 ROMs please post the functionality of them so we can create an index of ROMs working with SafeStrap.
I've posted over there that I got Hyperdrive ROM working, you just need to be careful during setup.

CM Unofficial 2013 10 10 fkosa's reply
I am running CM 20131010 Unoffical - jactiveltxxx from, ofcourse it is 4.3 and it is running smothly.
Havn't found any anoying errors yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395242&page=11
I tried to make some roms for myself and found out the following:
from: CM 20131017 Nightly - jltxxx - was a bit slow, and it felt like the touch was a bit delayed verry anoying
from: CM 20131021 Nightly - jltxxx - here there was something wrong with the screen.
But then again the nightly builds tends to a bit unstable from time to time.

Any Galaxy S4 Rom
I just recently got the galaxy note 2 and loving everything about it inside and out. But I was just wondering if there are or will be any rom or ports of a galaxy s4 rom to our galaxy note 2? Ive look in the android forums but did not see anything besides the hawkish rom which I am now currently using...

[Q] Sgh-i537 recommended Roms

I am trying to get the AT&T stuff out of my phone, and to have updates and bug fixes every now and then.
Untill now, found only the safestrap but i did not find any ROM that seems to have android 4.4.4. Is there anything like cyanogenmod?

eliuha said:
I am trying to get the AT&T stuff out of my phone, and to have updates and bug fixes every now and then.
Untill now, found only the safestrap but i did not find any ROM that seems to have android 4.4.4. Is there anything like cyanogenmod?
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Can't use a ROM with custom kernel, yet. I recommend 4.4.2 and HyperDrive 19. It works really well, has a nice installer with lots of extras, good battery life... All around, it's a really well built ROM.

eliuha said:
I am trying to get the AT&T stuff out of my phone, and to have updates and bug fixes every now and then.
Untill now, found only the safestrap but i did not find any ROM that seems to have android 4.4.4. Is there anything like cyanogenmod?
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As someone who was blindsided and crestfallen to find out about the locked bootloader (no cyanogenmod for us,we're S.O.L.) let me make some recommendations to at least get some of that stock android (i.e. cyanogenmod) feel back (I'm assuming you're already rooted, if not, google towelroot and follow directions):
Get SafeStrap
Flash this mod to drastically improve battery life and general performance
Get rid of KNOX
De-Odex your stock ROM (it's easy and allows a lot more customization)
And enter the exciting world of SMALI editing. This takes a little practice, and still doesn't afford the full freedom of CM, but you can customize the look and feel of your phone, still feel like a champ, and just learn about android in general. I've used a bunch of these successfully, with virtually no prior coding experience. E.g. I hated those battery/charger cover notifications, thanks to this thread, they're gone and not coming back.
Also, get rid of the stock launcher and replace it with NOVA launcher. More customization, smoother, better performance, looks more like CM. You can (and should) use Titanium Backup to either freeze or uninstall bloatware (at the very least any app with AT&T in the name).
AdAway is your friend.
Quick and easy mobile data toggle mod

I would recommend the Knox_Out zip in my post here since the one in the OP hasn't been updated since July and removes an apk you might actually need.

[Q] Most Pure Rom?

Excuse my ignorance, I'm trying to learn more about this device and scene.
What is the most "Vanilla" rom available for this device? I don't need or want any extra functionally and want as pure as android kitkat can get on the device.
Thanks.

Can't argue that ignorance is present.
Didn't care about this advice http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25164221 last time same question http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29632006 came to mind?
Btw, thread got locked by moderator usually has a reason...
Anyway, to inspire away from your self acclaimed ignorance not even bother to tell what model of Active, let me put it this way:
If
'this device' = i537 AT&T
Then
Locked bootloader
Goto Safestrap in xda General forum section
'this device' = i9295 international
Then
Unlocked bootloader
AOSP 4.4.4

jbenci said:
Excuse my ignorance, I'm trying to learn more about this device and scene.
What is the most "Vanilla" rom available for this device? I don't need or want any extra functionally and want as pure as android kitkat can get on the device.
Thanks.
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I don't know about the international version, so if that's what you have ignore this post. If you're on the i537, there's no AOSP or CM based ROMS, and the ROMS out there seem to be more trouble than they're worth. Not trying to badmouth, it's just there's always hacks necessary to even make them work properly in the first place, and no noticeable improvement. Instead, I'd recommend the advice I just gave someone else (tldr: replace launcher with Nova, freeze/uninstall bloat w/ TiBu, flash galaxy_mod, flash knoxout, and then start learning smali editing):
Get SafeStrap
Flash this mod to drastically improve battery life and general performance
Get rid of KNOX
De-Odex your stock ROM (it's easy and allows a lot more customization)
And enter the exciting world of SMALI editing. This takes a little practice, and still doesn't afford the full freedom of CM, but you can customize the look and feel of your phone, still feel like a champ, and just learn about android in general. I've used a bunch of these successfully, with virtually no prior coding experience. E.g. I hated those battery/charger cover notifications, thanks to this thread, they're gone and not coming back.
Also, get rid of the stock launcher and replace it with NOVA launcher. More customization, smoother, better performance, looks more like CM. You can (and should) use Titanium Backup to either freeze or uninstall bloatware (at the very least any app with AT&T in the name).
AdAway is your friend.
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Interest check on a stock GPE build for the Sprint S4

The title says it all. Is anybody interested in a Stock GPE Build for the Sprint S4? The purpose of this build would be a Stock GPE ROM with changes only needed to make it function correctly.
Basically, Keeping it as close as possible to stock GPE for the device with the exception of root/supersu and busybox.
The reason for this would be so dirty flashes work better and be somewhat supported and tested.
Danvdh's GPE build is awesome with many features however there is people like me that need a somewhat stable phone and don't feel like re-building and wiping the phone every time for a new flash.
Let me know what you think.

I think it would definitely be a good idea. Everyone has different needs and as you can see from reading the threads, it seems each phone acts differently on each of these Roms. Thank you for taking time to work on it if you do. If you need someone to test to see if your work causes a phone to glow in the dark, let me know!

pclov3r said:
Mods: If this is not the correct place for this please move it.
The title says it all. Is anybody interested in a Stock GPE Build for the Sprint S4? The purpose of this build would be a Stock GPE image with changes only needed to make it function correctly.
Basically, Keeping it as close as possible to stock GPE for the device with the exception of root/supersu and busybox.
The reason for this would be so dirty flashes work better and be somewhat supported and tested.
Danvdh's GPE build is awesome with many features however there is people like me that need a somewhat stable phone and don't feel like re-building and wiping the phone every time for a new flash.
Let me know what you think.
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Ahhhh was wondering why dirty flash wasn't working. I'm gonna go with Yes! but it's honestly not much of a hassle either way.

As long as I can get voice-mail.
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Go for it just as long data,voice, sms and mms work and it does say sprint not digital roam or no service or insert sim

As long as everything works and there aren't any crapola CM add-ons, I'm in for a try.

troyboytn said:
As long as everything works and there aren't any crapola CM add-ons, I'm in for a try.
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Thanks you made me laugh with that comment.

It exists...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557353&highlight=modem

No, it doesn't. That rom has been modded to hell and back and has nore issues with each release (which usually requires a complete wipe to even function). The OP of this thread is asking if we are interested in a more closely stock, more stable GPE rom without the mods and CM junk.

Would be nice if there was a actual source of the GPE I have a pure stock aosp build for jflte but its kk no mods no CM crap

Hey guys sadly this idea will have to be placed on hold for now. Somewhat busy with life. Sorry

I have one and love it. Do not know if voicemail works though...