I was quite surprised to learn that the Tab S series of tablets ships with the aging Snapdragon 800. I find it's a bit out of place on a tablet where all other specs are top notch. The reviews I read specifically say the tabet can be sluggish at times when more CPU power is required.
I guess I hold out on my upgrade a bit longer then...
rodrigorajao said:
I was quite surprised to learn that the Tab S series of tablets ships with the aging Snapdragon 800. I find it's a bit out of place on a tablet where all other specs are top notch. The reviews I read specifically say the tabet can be sluggish at times when more CPU power is required.
I guess I hold out on my upgrade a bit longer then...
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Only the LTE versions come with the Snapdragon 800. Wi-fi gets the Exynos 5420.
how is the 5420 ?
I'm kind of disappointed the UK versions have the 5420 - I find my Snapdragon 800 in my Note 3 phone super quick
is the 5420 just as snappy ? Looks such a good screen on the 8.4 and 10.5 Tab S
Buckster76 said:
how is the 5420 ?
I'm kind of disappointed the UK versions have the 5420 - I find my Snapdragon 800 in my Note 3 phone super quick
is the 5420 just as snappy ? Looks such a good screen on the 8.4 and 10.5 Tab S
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Reviewers are saying the 5420 wi-fi versions are noticeably faster than the 800 in the LTE. I believe benchmarks show the same.
The 5420 is amazing. Uses all 8 cores at the same time if needed now. They fixed the memory dump issue found in the previous iteration as well.
The only thing I'm bummed about, is the 5433 ( coming out soon)destroys Snapdragon's 805 SoC .... In benchmarks. I wish that processor was in the new Samsung flagship device. Ugh.
According to all the reviews I have read the opposite is true and they are recommending the processor in
the LTE version as the faster of the two.
I have to run to work but quick google search..Engadget ( which I hate) has this to say..
"If it's any consolation, the as-yet-unreleased LTE models are supposed to use a Snapdragon 800 chip instead of the Exynos 5, so maybe performance will be snappier there."
Snapdragon seems to get the most development too.
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According to all the reviews I have read the opposite is true and they are recommending the processor in
the LTE version as the faster of the two.
I have to run to work but quick google search..Engadget ( which I hate) has this to say..
"If it's any consolation, the as-yet-unreleased LTE models are supposed to use a Snapdragon 800 chip instead of the Exynos 5, so maybe performance will be snappier there."
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Anandtech clearly said Samsung made a poor choice with Exynos. They should have gone 801 or 805.
oh well - and 16gb too for UK version - grrrr
still prob going to get one though
maybe it will handle streaming video better than the Snapdragon (well the implementation of it on the Note 3) - after lots of updates, I still can't get smooth streamed video on my Note 3 - youtube, netflix, Sky, Iplayer etc - yet download to phone first (latter 2) - or play local content and smooth as silk
There probably won't be a 32gb version. Samsung said there'd be a 32gb 8.4 pro and there never was.
I can confirm there are LTE versions with Exynos processor, at least mine is so, bought in Spain (10.5"). I could change it for a snapdragon version though, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.
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I can confirm there are LTE versions with Exynos processor, at least mine is so, bought in Spain (10.5"). I could change it for a snapdragon version though, but I'm not sure if it is worth it.
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Thanks for your confirmation arbiskar.
It was rumoured the Tab S would be 5420 for WiFi, and 5420 + Intel LTE Modem for LTE models, that seems to coincide with the reports such as yours, that the LTE models is Exynos based only.
I doubt that Snapdragon based LTE models of the Tab S exist, if the LTE model you purchased is 5420, I'm going to assume they all will be...
Model numbers other than the T700, T705, T800 and T805 would need to exist for Snapdragon variants, so I don't believe we will see Qualcomm chips in any of the Tab S models.
Thanks.
Hi,
I ordered a LTE Tab S, in germany it will release on friday the 11 July. Before I ordered I thought all versions will have the Exynos 5 Octa and perhaps an optional LTE Modem. After my order I saw that the LTE version will be a QSD 800
Now you say thete will be LTE and Octa. Is it real? Do you know what version Samsung will sell in germay? I think I have to wait a few weeks before I get my tab S because I bought it with a LTE Contract and the Provider cant give me an info when they get the hardware from Samsung.
Now I don`t know if I should cancel the order and buy me a wifi version because the octa is better or will the QSD 800 ok too?
Svendrae said:
Hi,
I ordered a LTE Tab S, in germany it will release on friday the 11 July. Before I ordered I thought all versions will have the Exynos 5 Octa and perhaps an optional LTE Modem. After my order I saw that the LTE version will be a QSD 800
Now you say thete will be LTE and Octa. Is it real? Do you know what version Samsung will sell in germay? I think I have to wait a few weeks before I get my tab S because I bought it with a LTE Contract and the Provider cant give me an info when they get the hardware from Samsung.
Now I don`t know if I should cancel the order and buy me a wifi version because the octa is better or will the QSD 800 ok too?
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The sd800 is slightly better than the octacore, so I wouldn't worry.
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is it confirmed the LTE version in US is also Exynos processor instead of snapdragon 800? Thanks
rankman2004 said:
is it confirmed the LTE version in US is also Exynos processor instead of snapdragon 800? Thanks
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No. Lte is Snapdragon only. Samsung only announced today a new exynos processor with Lte for future products.
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No. Lte is Snapdragon only. Samsung only announced today a new exynos processor with Lte for future products.
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
They announced a new Exynos processor with LTE integrated for future products, but that doesn't mean there isn't a LTE chip in addition to the Exynos SOC in the Tab S LTE versions.
It would be nice if someone could confirm.
I'm also waiting to see if there will be a 32GB.. and which version to get
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
They announced a new Exynos processor with LTE integrated for future products, but that doesn't mean there isn't a LTE chip in addition to the Exynos SOC in the Tab S LTE versions.
It would be nice if someone could confirm.
I'm also waiting to see if there will be a 32GB.. and which version to get
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Would like to see some proof of that. Check out link below.
http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_modap_is_first_samsung_chipset_with_integrated_lte-news-9006.php
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Apparently, some people here have the LTE version with Exynos, so I'm not so sure.
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Someone from Spain said s/he has an Exynos/LTE device. The Spain Samsung site also has the LTE version listed as Exynos.
The announcement yesterday was for a quad-core chip with integrated LTE, not the 5433 next-gen big.LITTLE chip everyone was expecting. Without knowing the GPU of the chip announced yesterday it's hard to say where in the fold it fits (high-end, low-end). There's nothing that's ever prevented Samsung from using Exynos with a stand-alone modem it's just that S-800 with its integrated modem is cheaper. Maybe that's what they're doing in Spain. That or it's a typo and the aforementioned owner "thinks" s/he has Exynos LTE. Everything I've read indicates the S' are using the same S-800/5420 architecture of all Samsung's previously released high-end tablets. So I'm going with typo until someone posts a CPU-Z (available in Play) read out which will say specifically what chip a device is using.
We know there are S-800 SM-T805's because reviewers have tested them. It would be extremely odd that Samsung would give the same model number (Spain's SM-T805 also) to two devices with totally different architectures. They never have before. At a minimum they'd append a letter to it (EG: the N10.1-14 LTE with 700MHz bands sold in Latin America is the "P-SM605M."
As for S-800 being long in tooth, it's not really. The CPU is more than adequate for the workload. Here's a slide from Qualcomm saying 85% of apps don't use two cores better yet four. And the majority of apps never leave the A7 core on 5420.
The challenge is the enormous amount of pixels being pushed on large QHD tablet displays. S-801 uses Adreno 330 just like S-800 so until some SoC with a more powerful GPU is released (released = shipped in a production product) Adreno/Mali is the best we've got and the differences between them performance wise aren't that significant (Mali's about 10% weaker than Adreno when maxed out).
New member here.
Received today my Tab S 8.4 LTE (SM-T705) sold here in Finland. And it is indeed an Exynos 5420.
I don't have a Micro-SIM card for it yet, but it certainly is the LTE version. Does someone know how to check the LTE chip version?
Took captures with CPU Z, but I can't apparently post outside links yet. See them here: pentsin.portaali.org/samsung/ along a photo of the box also claiming 1.9GHz Quad-Core + 1.3GHz Quad-Core.
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Someone from Spain said s/he has an Exynos/LTE device. The Spain Samsung site also has the LTE version listed as Exynos.
The announcement yesterday was for a quad-core chip with integrated LTE, not the 5433 next-gen big.LITTLE chip everyone was expecting. Without knowing the GPU of the chip announced yesterday it's hard to say where in the fold it fits (high-end, low-end). There's nothing that's ever prevented Samsung from using Exynos with a stand-alone modem it's just that S-800 with its integrated modem is cheaper. Maybe that's what they're doing in Spain. That or it's a typo and the aforementioned owner "thinks" s/he has Exynos LTE. Everything I've read indicates the S' are using the same S-800/5420 architecture of all Samsung's previously released high-end tablets. So I'm going with typo until someone posts a CPU-Z (available in Play) read out which will say specifically what chip a device is using.
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I was looking for the LTE model with Exynos but couldn't find anyone that would ship here so I got the Qualcomm Wifi version from NY. Seems fine but I need LTE so I'll buy another one later. Any reason to look for the Exynos or is the Qualcomm better or are they just trying to save money making them?
The Qualcomm is faster in CPU processing, but slightly slower in graphics (e.g. gaming.) I would get the Qualcomm because it's newer and is more likely to get Android Nougat soon.
Ok, thanks. I guess this one will be ok then if Nougat is any good. Man I wish they would quit using stupid names though it's like they're trying to out-Ubuntu Ubuntu
So our Droid Turbos have quad core Snapdragon 805s clocked at 2.7 ghz. Newer phones like the S7 and Axon 7 have 820s clocked at 2.15 ghz. Does anyone know why this is considered an upgrade, or is this just another case of OEMs doing whatever they want because the average consumer is too ignorant to care?
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So our Droid Turbos have quad core Snapdragon 805s clocked at 2.7 ghz. Newer phones like the S7 and Axon 7 have 820s clocked at 2.15 ghz. Does anyone know why this is considered an upgrade, or is this just another case of OEMs doing whatever they want because the average consumer is too ignorant to care?
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Some of the new CPUs are octo-cores instead of quad core, so 8 x 2.15 would be better than 4 x 2.7.
Also, last year's Snapdragon 810 overheated tremendously and for protection, in real life got throttled down to much slower speeds than what Qualcomm claimed. So, with the 820 Qualcomm is being more realistic. (I'm not mentioning our 805, just the current and last year's)
Yet, due to increased effeciancy, the 820 is 54% faster in benchmark scores than the 810.
The new 14nm Snapdragon 820 has a completely different architecture to its predecessor, the 810. It’s comprised of the X12 LTE modem, Kryo CPU, Adreno 530 GPU, Hexagon DSP, and Spectra ISP.
The 64-bit Kryta CPU is one of the bigger changes and will reportedly offer twice the performance of the 810.
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SNAPDRAGON 820 ANTUTU SCORE – 820 IS 54% FASTER THAN 810
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/snapdragon-820-vs-snapdragon-810
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Some of the new CPUs are octo-cores instead of quad core, so 8 x 2.15 would be better than 4 x 2.7.
Also, last year's Snapdragon 810 overheated tremendously and for protection, in real life got throttled down to much slower speeds than what Qualcomm claimed. So, with the 820 Qualcomm is being more realistic. (I'm not mentioning our 805, just the current and last year's)
Yet, due to increased effeciancy, the 820 is 54% faster in benchmark scores than the 810.
The new 14nm Snapdragon 820 has a completely different architecture to its predecessor, the 810. It’s comprised of the X12 LTE modem, Kryo CPU, Adreno 530 GPU, Hexagon DSP, and Spectra ISP.
The 64-bit Kryta CPU is one of the bigger changes and will reportedly offer twice the performance of the 810.
SNAPDRAGON 820 ANTUTU SCORE – 820 IS 54% FASTER THAN 810
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/snapdragon-820-vs-snapdragon-810
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The 820s are quad core, so that can't be it. I guess it's just the different architecture. Man, are those Axon 7s tempting. It's got all the right bands to run on Verizon and an unlocked bootloader upon request. I have no legitimate reason to get a new phone right now...but I wish I did.
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Man, are those Axon 7s tempting. It's got all the right bands to run on Verizon and an unlocked bootloader upon request. I have no legitimate reason to get a new phone right now...but I wish I did.
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I just wish it had Qi wireless...
Also for you a Verizon user, even though it has Verizon's and Sprint's bands supposedly Verizon has not yet "approved" it on the network yet? I'm not sure how that works. Is the "approval" process for new SIM cards? But if you stick an already activated SIM card in, will it still work?
ZTE is asking nicely and hoping Verizon will cooperate.
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I just wish it had Qi wireless...
Also for you a Verizon user, even though it has Verizon's and Sprint's bands supposedly Verizon has not yet "approved" it on the network yet? I'm not sure how that works. Is the "approval" process for new SIM cards? But if you stick an already activated SIM card in, will it still work?
ZTE is asking nicely and hoping Verizon will cooperate.
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I've done some reading and it seems like the phone mostly works on Verizon, with a few issues that require a reboot to solve. Obviously, things like VoLTE and mms over Wi-Fi don't work, but that doesn't bother me. But yeah, I'd have to re use my activated SIM.
Also, I noticed that on GSM arena it said that the phone had both the same CDMA bands as the Turbo, but I found another site (signal checker or something like that) that said it only had one of them. I'm not sure which is more reliable.
The Sanpdragon 845 can also be rooted but no one cares. Why?
TWRP supported devices (as of this comment)
Exynos: N960F/FD/X/N (All exynos variants have an unlockable bootloader)
Snapdragon: N9600 (I assume this is the only 845 variant of the device with an unlockable bootloader)
Although it is possible for someone to port a custom rom or support the 845 further, probably 80% of note 9 users would have an exynos (for EMEA markets), while 20% maybe have the snapdragon (USA/LATAM and China), and even less so if you're just refering to one model only (N9600), so it is more efficient and better for a dev to support a device with a larger percentage of people using it. I mean, I'm surprised the snapdragon version of the note 9 even got TWRP
This is purely my assumption, correct me if I'm wrong.
there is a difference in a locked bootloader vs one that is not regardless of cpu architecture.
this is the real problem more than the cpu.
so in this case OP's comprehension is more at fault than contents of his question. Probably after realizing the differences, the answer will become self evident to him.
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there is a difference in a locked bootlaoder vs one that is not regardless if cpu architecture.
this is the real problem more than the cpu.
so in this case OP's comprehension is more at fault than contents of his question. Probably after realizing the differences, the answer will become self evident to him.
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Lol nice answer. Not that I understand
I'm seriously unsure if it's better to go for the snapdragon, but If buy that version will I get as update as quick as the Exynos version?
No, Exynos will get updates earlier. Also Exynos version can record a calls
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I'm seriously unsure if it's better to go for the snapdragon, but If buy that version will I get as update as quick as the Exynos version?
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What are the advantages of the Exynos variant? Only one I'm aware of, you'll have a larger selection of Custom ROM'S. Snapdragon SoC is now faster, better optimized for gaming, AI, 5G and is offered with an unlocked bootloader. Do you plan on rooting or flashing your device? If not Snapdragon is your best bet.
Yeah, it seems to boil down to whether you want/need an unlocked bootloader. While there have been some unlocked Snapdragon S models in the past, they are in limited markets and have had very little development compared to the Exynos models. For my usage, the Exynos is the only option, and some of the performance difference will be clawed back by custom kernels/ROMs. And since I'm coming from a rooted Exynos S7, the S10e will be a solid performance jump. But if rooting didn't matter to me, I'd go with the Snapdragon.