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I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
I have a Bell GS and on Bell it works great. Though after a firmware upgrade yesterday is is acting a bit wonky, might have to do reset.
To use it on ATT in the US you would have to buy it outright from Bell or other brick and mortar store that carry Bell phones. ie. Best Buy/FutureShop.
There is an unlock app for GS's and supposedly works on the Bell I9000, haven't tried it myself, no need atm. This will allow you to use a ATT sim card in the phone.
To update, you can use Samsung kies, supposedly what they will be using to push updates to GS, you can get that from samsungs web site. From what I have found so far you need to be in the touch wiz launcher to use kies. only matters if you use 3rd party launchers.
Not sure how the FFC will work for you. That might be dependant on ATT?
Your best bet, if you decide to get one. ROOT and make it your *****!
It would be 100% compatible on AT&T's network. In fact, it's even more compatible because Bell doesn't have a 2G network you can switch to to save battery life.
ROM updates come officially through Kies like normal, although you should also be able to flash most international i9000 ROMs you see floating around here, just make sure before doing so. Flashing a Captivate ROM just because you're on AT&T is a surefire way to brick your phone.
To buy it you will likely need to use something like eBay because even if you purchase it outright almost every store won't let you leave unless you have existing service with Bell. You can unlock it for free though with the method that I am sure is detailed on the Android Development board somewhere.
The obvious downside to buying Bell's Galaxy S is it comes at full retail price (over $500 Canadian) and in all likelihood you're probably going to get a model with the three button download/recovery modes disabled, making flashing ROMs risky. Hold out until the end of this month to see if Samsung Canada announces more about their promised fix for this.
I am using one on AT&T as well and it works fine. Best part is that AT&T doesn't force you on their limited smartphone plans and you can put it on a cheaper unlimited plan.
I got mine in a trade for a BB Torch but you can find one on eBay or maybe talk to a Canadian member here to see about picking one up for you. I would suggest you have them check for the 3 button recovery to make sure it's working before they buy it though.
The downside is warranty issues if it breaks but as long as the 3 button recovery works you should be able to recover from a bad flash and the hardware seems pretty solid so far so no worries there.
Based on the responses, I am definitely going with the Bell/Canadian Vibrant. The only trouble I have now is just finding one to purchase.
How do I post my intentions here to let people that I want one? Who is a reliable dealer here?
Many Thanks
GH
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
send me a PM if you want to buy a Bell SGS with 3 button working tested, and GPS tested before mailing it to your address of choice.
BuddyLee said:
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
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It is unbranded
3 button mode is enabled again with latest firmware
Epic 4G (used as 3G on Bell / Rogers)
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
catalinu said:
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
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the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I use it on Rogers network and it works great. No problem so far.
AllGamer said:
the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
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Thanks for your answer.
I am not a tech, but the 4G/3G is also depending on CDMA? Or CDMA concerns only voice? Is it 4G/3G a standard (the same on Sprint and Bell and Rogers) that doesn't depend neither on CDMA or GSM?
we don't have 4G support yet in Canada
CDMA is for voice, but if you can not register the phone in the network for voice, you will also not get access to data
to have data you must have a voice connection
not a phone requirement but a phone network carrier requirement
Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
catalinu said:
Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
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Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
AllGamer said:
Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
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Yes, but if Bell already sells the dataonly plan for iPad, why they don't sell a dataonly plan also for a smartphone?
because they can claim a Tab is "not a phone" (whatever...)
and a Galaxy is a "phone"
garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I currently have a I9000 and am on ATT's network in southern california. I'm all but satisfied since my coverage is poor indoors and in some areas because of the lack of 850 band support.
I'm looking to move instead to the I9000M from Bell to get the added 850 3g coverage. Were you able to get a phone, root, unlock it and upgrade to froyo 2.2? Can you tell me about your experience so far including testing for 3-button boot into recovery? Where and how much you got the phone for out-the-door? Thanks.
Sorry mate, still waiting on mine, can't believe its been a month. An xda member here indicated that the stores in Canada are out of stock for awhile now.
Hy guys,
I've been reading on that thread for few days and one question raised in my head.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790984
And that post
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8299301&postcount=18
If I buy an International (European or other version) of the Galaxy I9000 that doesn't support frequencies HSPA 850MHz from scratch, do you think it has the same hardware as the Bell Canada one ans that it's just the firmware that enable or disable those frequencies?
If so, it may be interresting to try flashing one Internal version of the I9000 with the CSC and Phone file from firmware UGJH2 and see if it enable the 850MHz HSPA frequency.
If that work, that means that International and/or European unlocked I9000 phone are exactly same hardware and that, We could buy them and use them with Bell and other providers in Canada instead of buying a Bell one.
short answer no
it has been tested and re-tested by several people already
it doesn't work
but feel free to try if you have the time and money to spare
if you want the I9000M (3g 850/1900/2100) you can get it off ebay if you don't care about the 3 button issue, but if you do care about the 3 button thing, you can ping me
Wow thanks alot AllGamer for the quick reply. Sorry if that thread is a double post because I haven't seen one talking about this specifically. I've seen alot about the 850Mhz lost after flashing firmware thow...
So if I understand it correctly... the only option we have is to buy a I9000M from Bell and do the 3 buttons fix from that thread in order to be able to unlock and upgrade...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784704
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
franckqcc said:
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
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correct in all counts
yes, it's kinda stupid they have released more than 8 different variants of the same phone, each of them with just minor changes in hardware/software
like with TV, no TV
with Front Camera, no FC
with Upload speed cut off, Full speed upload (USA AT&T)
with Flash, with no Flash
with more storage, with less storage
with keyboard, without keyboard
with these radio bands, without that radio band
with... bah just too many
I have no clue how they keep up with all the different branches of the same tree
re: Bell...
nope, they do have an activation fee when you purchase it, even when you but it off at full price, the total is roughly $650~680 including all the taxes, activation, shipping materials, shipping, packaging, all the other crazy fees the Bell and the government charges
Just by curiosity.. Do you know a version of that phone that work with 850MHz but include the flash for the camera?
That would be nice to have a flash included with it
The flash is on the CDMA Galaxy S for Verizon only. I don't think this device can be unlocked but anyways I don't think you would want a CDMA smartphone in Canada.
he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
Yep and since CDMA is way slower than HSPA, that would be useless....the only time we use CDMA is in the regions where HSPA isn't working...
Thanks all for your reply
AllGamer said:
he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
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Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
Electroz said:
Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
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not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
is there an easy way to find this out without taking apart the phone?
dawgpound6985 said:
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
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AllGamer said:
not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
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Thats pretty weird then. CDMA phones don't even have an IMEI. That is a gsm/hsdpa specific number.....
Sent from my GT-I9000M using XDA App
you said IMEI people will understand what it is
you tell them ESN they will be like "wuuaaat number?"
cust: "my old number before DC?"
me: NO
Your number under the battery compartment or box that came in...
cust: "wuaaat? where?"
me: ohh... never mind, just give me the phone
cust: "here"
me: where's the sticker?
cust: "i peeled it, it didn't look good" (that happened once)
another time was
me: where's the sticker?, it's all smudged & worn out!
cust: "i dunno"...
needless to say both cases were denied, no IMEI/ESN can't register them
a couple of times we did get some black listed ESN from verizon/sprint, also denied on those cases
most of the time they are okay, and can easily be joined to the network, the only trouble was finding the re-programing instruction for those Odd phones as we knew by memory the models we sold, but anything weird will take some times.
we always charged extra for that.
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
dawgpound6985 said:
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
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ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
AllGamer said:
ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
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Seems to be one part. Check out the pictures here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8395614#post8395614
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
mthiffau said:
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
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Go outside of a large metropolitan area and report back. Or maybe you could even try reading this thread....
Hi guys, I have a bit of a dilemma. I bought my Milestone secondhand from a guy who had it imported before they were officially sold here in Thailand. I can't get a hold of him but I *assume* it's a Canadian model, as it has a QWERTY keyboard. I'd like to make sure I have the correct baseband on the phone, so that I may be able to get 3G by using a different carrier with a compatible frequency (3G is a big mess here, legal battles between the government and carriers, so each major carrier essentially has its own frequency).
So, how can I be sure which 3G system my phone was designed for?
http://dext3r.komodin.org/
Search in page baseband or Thailand.
But this is basically if you dont have signal, 3g I think it work through apn.
Same things with 3g licences over here so that is nothing unusual about this.
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Hi guys, I have a bit of a dilemma. I bought my Milestone secondhand from a guy who had it imported before they were officially sold here in Thailand. I can't get a hold of him but I *assume* it's a Canadian model, as it has a QWERTY keyboard. I'd like to make sure I have the correct baseband on the phone, so that I may be able to get 3G by using a different carrier with a compatible frequency (3G is a big mess here, legal battles between the government and carriers, so each major carrier essentially has its own frequency).
So, how can I be sure which 3G system my phone was designed for?
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Install ROM, pick a baseband, configure APN. If you can't get a stable connection, then you have the wrong baseband. Try a different frequency set (europe, canada). If 3G never works, then your phone freq are not compatible with your current carrier.
Switch sim/carrier and try again
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@etimago, you can check your baseband type in settings/about phone. What does it say there? Then we can see which one you've got.
I still do not know how to get FastBoot_SU working on my XT907 so these things are just experimental.
Verizon XT907 Razr M US with US T-Mobile using NON-HLOS.bin from AUSSIE ICS
I know Edge and Voice is working with my Sim.
No idea how to get FastBoot_SU working so i did this a bit different.
You will need:
VZW_XT907_4.1.1-9.8.1Q-27-2-4_1FF.xml (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017200)
RSDLite6.1.4_FLASH
MotorolaDeviceManager_2.3.4 DRIVERS
NON-HLOS.bin from AUSSIE Razr M it is 102.400KB compared to the US 49.xxxKB (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8648738/NON-HLOS.bin)
WinRar or any Zip Program
1. Navigate inside VZW_XT907_4.1.1-9.8.1Q-27-2-4_1FF.xml using winrar or winzip and find the original NON-HLOS.Bin over write this with the Aussie Radio 100kb one. Make sure its packed normal again.
2. Use RSDLite, make sure Phone is in Debug mode, flash the new VZW_XT907_4.1.1-9.8.1Q-27-2-4_1FF.xml with the modified Radio.
3. Let the update do its thing, once done insert SIM and enjoy GSM reception.
4. Find a way to gain root access ahhahahaha bc this should wiped ur root access.
There is a way to use FastBoot_SU somehow but it does not work me ...
This is the same modification done to ICS to get it to work with US carriers, except you are on JB or in this case i used JB to flash the entire device.
Some one feel free to clean up these steps or improve this for easy use of tutorial ? You are welcome to edit LOL
followed the steps. but it seems the radio is problematic, because att signal is vey vey weak. I couldnot place call.the same micro sim had 4 bar at my hd2 win phone.
any fix?
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Just tried flashing following your instructions and got stuck.
RSD Lite v5.6 Multi-Flash reports:
Failed flashing process. 16/19 flash "cdrom" -> Phone returned FAIL.; phone connected
Please help!!! Phone now stuck in Fastboot Flash Mode...
Thank you
I did not use 5.6
Also make sure ur battery is above 50% I did have issues flashing when my phone was at about 30-40 ish %
It will show up as low battery.
Get the Stock Verizon JB reflash it with 6.X and up.
Then use a clean version of JB with a modded PJcon Aussie Radio.
And reflash it from there.
To get out of there just Reboot by holding all buttons Power and Volume until reboot.
Thank you!
It only works with version 6 and above.
All is good now.
BTW I just traveled through the documented refarmed areas in Chicago and Cleveland and still no 3g.
yeah same here.
We still figuring out how to get 3G or 4G
Just to add some "fuel to the fire"...a year or so ago I got bored with my Defy and got an Atrix 4G online from the US (I live in Australia). It was AT&T branded and locked so had to purchase an unlock code. When I got it going on Telstra, the reception was just never that good. People always complained they couldn't hear me and I had similar experiences with hearing them. I even gave it to my bro on the other side of the country and he had the same issues.
I suppose what I'm putting forward is that even if it is 2100mhz band or 850mhz band which the Aussie radio does (I don't know what AT&T/T-Mobile run on), it's possibly more than that? I recall reading a VERY interesting article about how much work carriers do to get phones to work on their selected band - no disrespect to any Devs intended, this is just my thoughts as this may be a ghost we're chasing?
Or is the Electrify M XT905 going to work any better?
Works perfectly fine in Germany though Germany uses Stock Rom for XT907
I am getting Super strong signal everywhere better than my iPhone 4, I am using Aussie radio.
I even get better signal than the AT&T users. So it maybe the area, AT&T been getting worse bc they share some towers with T-mobile now.
By that the same tower rent space T-mobile is allowed to put up their Antenna gear, which sometimes decreases signal strength of AT&T.
Which happened alot in my area, alot of AT&T users loosing more signal... and running a modded phone is probably isn't helping the matter.
But T-Mobile seems to have few more frequencies after the refarm ? Maybe that's why ?
The XT907 Definitively is able to get H+ on GSM with Stock Rom in Europe.
H+ we managed to get it to 2.xMB but her normal area we only get 1.5-1.9MB ish
She also picks up E and 3G here and there.
This is on O2 Germany (DE) in Munich Testing to Frankfurt.
Using Stock Verizon Firmware un-modified stock radio.
I will test Aussie Radio next week in Germany see what happens.
But right now She is enjoying H+ with GSM on a XT907.
Hi guys,
I've read the threads in Q/A and this one about different sim cards in RAZR M, and I must say I'm pretty sad because it doesn't work.
I like this phone very much. It's the best phone I've ever seen. But I won't buy it because I don't have money to pay for expensive plans to Verizon (nor I will be in the US for 2 years which is the minimum contract time), and it doesn't work on T mobile which I would like to use. I guess I will have to stay on my Defy and wait for some new unlocked version of Motorola (never gonna happen imo).
Or should I buy it and try this method so I can use it partially with T mobile? Please advise.
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I am using it with this method with T-Mobile.
Though when i am in Germany I have to take the mod out to get onto 3G in Germany.
With US-T-mobile we only managed to get Edge Connectivity so far.
I like it because i dont use much data and edge is enough for geting GPS to work smooth and surfing is slooow.
Else all is well =)
Thanks for the info~~~!!
It'd be really cool if the dropbox link worked. Unless im doing something wrong. Unless i can pull it out of another stock/rom file
Great info. Is the dropbox link down for good? I cant seem to find any mirrors :-/
This method has been made obsolete by the discovery of a much simpler procedure that edits a single bit in the radio NVM that enables full service on US carriers.
I wrote up the updated method in the Q&A section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2166542
Can someone please reupload AUSSIE RADIO as Radiocomm method is not working for me!
Proda said:
Hi guys,
I've read the threads in Q/A and this one about different sim cards in RAZR M, and I must say I'm pretty sad because it doesn't work.
I like this phone very much. It's the best phone I've ever seen. But I won't buy it because I don't have money to pay for expensive plans to Verizon (nor I will be in the US for 2 years which is the minimum contract time), and it doesn't work on T mobile which I would like to use. I guess I will have to stay on my Defy and wait for some new unlocked version of Motorola (never gonna happen imo).
Or should I buy it and try this method so I can use it partially with T mobile? Please advise.
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May I suggest buying the RAZR i
Germanese said:
I still do not know how to get FastBoot_SU working on my XT907 so these things are just experimental.
Verizon XT907 Razr M US with US T-Mobile using NON-HLOS.bin from AUSSIE ICS
I know Edge and Voice is working with my Sim.
No idea how to get FastBoot_SU working so i did this a bit different.
You will need:
VZW_XT907_4.1.1-9.8.1Q-27-2-4_1FF.xml (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017200)
RSDLite6.1.4_FLASH
MotorolaDeviceManager_2.3.4 DRIVERS
NON-HLOS.bin from AUSSIE Razr M it is 102.400KB compared to the US 49.xxxKB (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8648738/NON-HLOS.bin)
WinRar or any Zip Program
1. Navigate inside VZW_XT907_4.1.1-9.8.1Q-27-2-4_1FF.xml using winrar or winzip and find the original NON-HLOS.Bin over write this with the Aussie Radio 100kb one. Make sure its packed normal again.
2. Use RSDLite, make sure Phone is in Debug mode, flash the new VZW_XT907_4.1.1-9.8.1Q-27-2-4_1FF.xml with the modified Radio.
3. Let the update do its thing, once done insert SIM and enjoy GSM reception.
4. Find a way to gain root access ahhahahaha bc this should wiped ur root access.
There is a way to use FastBoot_SU somehow but it does not work me ...
This is the same modification done to ICS to get it to work with US carriers, except you are on JB or in this case i used JB to flash the entire device.
Some one feel free to clean up these steps or improve this for easy use of tutorial ? You are welcome to edit LOL
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is there a way to flash it in a RAZR-M with JB 4.1.2 ?
toroloco73 said:
is there a way to flash it in a RAZR-M with JB 4.1.2 ?
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Yes it is.
Though I am not sure if it is possible on the 98.18.78.
Earlier ones will work.
Germanese said:
Yes it is.
Though I am not sure if it is possible on the 98.18.78.
Earlier ones will work.
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now i'm on xt907_stock_deodex_98.16.3
i can't find NON-HLOS.bin from AUSSIE Razr M file
I just purchased an unlocked Optimus black, I have inserted my sim card and can connect, however it doesn't seem to go into 3g mode. My Carrier is Rogers, (Canada). When I look in the Settings/.../Network Mode the options I have are GSM/WCDMA (auto mode) or WCDMA only or GSM only. Does this mean the phone will not do 3G on Rogers? Rogers is a GSM Carrier.
When I checked the frequencies (@gsmarena) for the phone prior to purchasing, it listed 2 "HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100" & "HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100" my current phone matches the second one so I assumed all was good, have I erred in assuming the phone supports both when in actuality it only supports one depending on which 'sub' model you get?
Accept my apologies if I have asked this question in the wrong area, and tell me to bugger off after pointing me in the right direction.
Tia...
bolloc said:
I just purchased an unlocked Optimus black, I have inserted my sim card and can connect, however it doesn't seem to go into 3g mode. My Carrier is Rogers, (Canada). When I look in the Settings/.../Network Mode the options I have are GSM/WCDMA (auto mode) or WCDMA only or GSM only. Does this mean the phone will not do 3G on Rogers? Rogers is a GSM Carrier.
When I checked the frequencies (@gsmarena) for the phone prior to purchasing, it listed 2 "HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100" & "HSDPA 900 / 1900 / 2100" my current phone matches the second one so I assumed all was good, have I erred in assuming the phone supports both when in actuality it only supports one depending on which 'sub' model you get?
Accept my apologies if I have asked this question in the wrong area, and tell me to bugger off after pointing me in the right direction.
Tia...
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What do you mean by unlocked OB? Is it other than P970?
The P970 (Normal OB) can't be networked locked in the first place.
And yes it's in the right place .
xonar_ said:
What do you mean by unlocked OB? Is it other than P970?
The P970 (Normal OB) can't be networked locked in the first place.
And yes it's in the right place .
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The phone was advertised as unlocked and that it could be used with any GSM carrier. In the past when I had called a different carrier searching for better rates I was told it was ok to use my phone on their networks if it was unlocked so I made sure I didn't purchase a locked phone. So was that really redundant, this model can't be locked?
I think the problem I have is this phone doesn't appear to work on one of the frequencies I need (HSDPA/HSUPA 850). I compared the specs at gsmarena for my existing phone and for the OB, like I said in the first post, I thought they had similar frequencies. After posting this question I looked into it more, the specs for my existing phone at the manufacturers website differ, they show HSDPA/HSUPA at 900/1900/2100 MHz or 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. Then I researched the networks used by the carriers and sure enough Rogers is UMTS 850/1900 as are the other carriers here.
bolloc said:
The phone was advertised as unlocked and that it could be used with any GSM carrier. In the past when I had called a different carrier searching for better rates I was told it was ok to use my phone on their networks if it was unlocked so I made sure I didn't purchase a locked phone. So was that really redundant, this model can't be locked?
I think the problem I have is this phone doesn't appear to work on one of the frequencies I need (HSDPA/HSUPA 850). I compared the specs at gsmarena for my existing phone and for the OB, like I said in the first post, I thought they had similar frequencies. After posting this question I looked into it more, the specs for my existing phone at the manufacturers website differ, they show HSDPA/HSUPA at 900/1900/2100 MHz or 850/900/1900/2100 MHz. Then I researched the networks used by the carriers and sure enough Rogers is UMTS 850/1900 as are the other carriers here.
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P970 can't be locked.
The sprint variant (LG Marquee) of the OB can be locked though, not sure about the Japanese and Korean variants though.
What firmware are you using? Perhaps it will be a good idea to use your countries firmware.
Just use the official LG Updater to install the firmware.
xonar_ said:
P970 can't be locked.
The sprint variant (LG Marquee) of the OB can be locked though, not sure about the Japanese and Korean variants though.
What firmware are you using? Perhaps it will be a good idea to use your countries firmware.
Just use the official LG Updater to install the firmware.
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I forget now what the original version (V10something) was because since then I have managed to totally mess it up, it now has no imei# ...
As I said in my first post the issue was with 'data' performance it was pathetic, I did not see this phone show a 3g icon when connected and when I measured the speed it was reminiscent of performance we experienced a few years ago prior to 3g.
So I flashed it, with a patched V20J... oops, this is where things went from bad to worse. Somewhere during my troubleshooting research I noticed that this wasn't a P970. Although this is what was advertised in the sale, it is in fact a KU5900. I thought no problem I will download a korean firmware, that sounds easier than the reality though, I can't download the korean firmware from lg-phone-firmware.com probably because I am in Canada, I even tried to do it through a korean proxy, didn't work.
I found a link here to the V30I firmware that I could download, flashed that, bricked the sucker. Fixed the brick by putting the V20J back, found your post re. dd the imei to mmcblk0p11, it didn't work, perhaps this is one of the differences in the KU5900? And yes I did see your heading warning it was for a P970 only but figured what have I got to loose
I did try the LG updater it failed, come to think of it this is where I found out it was a KU5900, of course I tried that after the fact, and I found your thread about re-writing the nvram with advise to back it up first, after the fact.
Now to address the locking portion of your reply, I purchased a P970 on the day you replied to this thread. From a different carrier, they had a great deal on their plans and I needed to jump on it then and there, although I had purchased a new phone the deal also included a phone so I grabbed the 'same' an optimus black. This phone will only work with the sim they provided, when I put in my Rogers sim it wouldn't work, I tried setting it up manually, nothing. This is what I understand as being locked, whether the correct terminology is network locked or not I have no idea.
On a side note, the seller has agreed to replace the phone, unfortunately I believe that even though they have confirmed it will be a P970, I will end up with another KU5900, I couldn't care less providing I have access to KU5900 firmware which seems to be a bit of a challenge.