Ok so I purchased note 3 at full retail price from att without doing any research. I need custom rom for sure. So should return the att version and get the tmobile version and unlock or do I have some hope of a dev figuring it out. What would you guys have me do. Plz dont say endure master wayne.
I'd return the ATT version and buy the unlocked version
Is there any downside to this other than the voided warranty which is basic. Plz I need some more opinions on this topic any input will be much appreciated even if it is to return it completely and switch to walkie talkie.
If you need something now return it for the T Mobile, but it will void your warranty. The current AT&T root de la vega doesn't void your warranty because it doesn't trip the knox flag, but there are no custom roms. I would bet at some point we will be able to load safestrap with the root de la vega and be able to run custom roms without breaking the warranty on AT&T models, but safestrap is a little more limited than really flashing a ROM and it isn't done yet so there is no guarantee. If they do unlock the AT&T bootloader and we can do a real ROM flash, that will also probably void the warranty and will probably trip the knox flag .. but none of that is known for sure right now or if it will ever be done.
It really depends how fast you need to be able to flash it and how much your warranty matters to you.
I have faith. Where there is a will there is a way. There is too much of a demand for it. Either att will unlock it or the bounty will motivate a dev(s) to figure it out.
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Also I can't think of anything a custom rom will offer that you can't wait a month or two for
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I had a Motorola photon on sprint with a locked bootloader. No one ever figured it out
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sndtubes said:
I had a Motorola photon on sprint with a locked bootloader. No one ever figured it out
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Because no one cared about that phone
Ya know I thought this same thing, but you can modify just about everything through Xposed/wanam you could with a custom rom (status bar icon colors, notification background trans, remove carrier label, battery icon, hold back to kill app, toggle background colors, toggle text colors and the list goes on and on. Even on power saving mode this hardware/phone blows the most modded to the max note 2 out of the water.
Well for starters don't title your thread like an 8 year old who is on fire, that's just rude.
Secondly, the "more opinions" that you desire are discussed over and over in vast depth and in a varitable cornucopia of considerations in nearly every thread on this forum. The pros and cons of tmo now - vs- att later is proposed to a nauseating degree. In other words, spend 30 minutes reading and you will get more than the few comments that you ask for.
Thirdly, decide concretely if what you want from your phone can only be achieved through a custom recovery and rom. There are, as previously stated, numerous ways to change a lot about this phone even with the locked bootloader, but you should seriously consider the strong possibility that it will never be unlocked.
And lastly, take a minute to research the cons of using a tmo note on the att network... There may be none, they may be vast.
Read, read, read.
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I have read through many thread about almost every topic u just said. I m just asking for peoples opinion nothing else. Opinions r a way I can calm myself down a little n relax. Thanks.
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Ok so I purchased note 3 at full retail price from att without doing any research. I need custom rom for sure. So should return the att version and get the tmobile version and unlock or do I have some hope of a dev figuring it out. What would you guys have me do. Plz dont say endure master wayne.
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Depends on how fast you need to be able to flash a custom ROM. (Though I don't really understand an absolute NEED to flash a custom ROM as opposed to just WANTING to flash one.) If you need it quickly, return it, eat the $35 restock fee and buy it unlocked.
Out of morbid curiosity, why do you NEED to put a custom ROM on this? As long as we have root you can do almost anything. Just my opinion.
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I would say eventually there will be a custom ROM and boot loader unlock however not today or tomorrow these things take time. If you dont have patiencr, aren't willing to out money toward developers to build , or do some developing yourself maybe iPhone is a better route.
Not sure about about T-Mobile and its custom ROMs , I wouldn't rush into flashing ROMs til they been tested because you will be doing a lot of debugging
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You guys r perfectly right, dam my brain does not work sometimes when I need something right away. I just dont wanna be stuck with touchwiz for too long bcz I ll get tired of it quick. But the tw on note 3 is bearable for me until something gets worked out so I will just stick to what I have. I didnt even think about xposed at all most of the features i need r hopefully there. Thanks everyone for ur opinions cause u guys really helped me out. So I will be rooting my device tmorrow. Wish me lucks.
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I have read through many thread about almost every topic u just said. I m just asking for peoples opinion nothing else. Opinions r a way I can calm myself down a little n relax. Thanks.
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Well I'm in the same boat as you, I just bought the att n3 and didn't do my due diligence and am now considering taking it back for the tmo n3.
Im leaning towards keeping it for 3 reasons...
1. I have faith that the bootloader will be unlocked by some very ingenious man who, upon completion, shall drink copious amounts of beer on my dime.
2. I've heard all the success stories of tmo on att network and I'm left with doubt that I will have as good of coverage that I want/need/demand/deserve given my station in life.
3. I don't think that I can't make my phone 99% perfect with root + exposed framework and all that comes out of that. Though I am a flashaholic, I'm seeing less and less need to do so with this device. It has all the features I want and once I'm rooted I can freeze any bloat ware whilst tweaking my personal particulars.
Now make a personal assessment about what you want/need from your device and put some of personal thought into it.
And edit the title of your post already.
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You guys r perfectly right, dam my brain does not work sometimes when I need something right away. I just dont wanna be stuck with touchwiz for too long bcz I ll get tired of it quick. But the tw on note 3 is bearable for me until something gets worked out so I will just stick to what I have. I didnt even think about xposed at all most of the features i need r hopefully there. Thanks everyone for ur opinions cause u guys really helped me out. So I will be rooting my device tmorrow. Wish me lucks.
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If you get sick of touchwiz there are plenty of other launchers out there that will theme your TW to look like AOSP/AOKP ect. :good:
sticking to the att note 3
Yea I m sticking to to att version of note 3. I ll work with touchwiz for now. Hopefully something happens with the bootloader. Thanks everyone.
If I were you id return it get the tmobile one. If your within the window eat the $35 to have the reassurance of not having to hope for an unlocked bootloader. Are you going to flash roms? Maybe yes maybe no. Will there be a bootloader unlock / exploit? Maybe yes maybe no. But for $35 id pay that to have an option to whether I choose to or not. For me I returned my tmobile note 3 purchased out right cause I bought my friends for $600. For $150 its not worth it
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Because no one cared about that phone
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Not going to be a popular opinion here, but here it goes anyway. When I first started using Android phones, I was switching ROMs almost every other day. Lately I've gotten bored with it. I haven't loaded a custom rom on my last 3 phones. As long as I can root it, I'm good to go. As was said earlier in this thread, most of the mods that customs offer can be done yourself with a little work (and without the minor bugs that always come with custom roms). I just don't see a compelling reason to switch roms at this point. Even if you hate TW, just change your launcher (first thing I always do anyway).
Now, there are SOME reasons to hope the bootloader gets unlocked. Swapping out kernals, radios, etc. But none of that is really essential for me.
I came to this phone knowing full well (having researched) the bootloader was locked and further, being sort of a niche device, developer support might be light (although we lucked out with DG). But I knew it would get rooted, and that was enough for me.
My advice would be, if you absolutely must have custom roms, return it and get the tmo. We may well never get the bootloader unlocked and if that is a must for you, then it seems you have little choice.
switched to tmobile.
Yea I couldnt take it anymore. I went ahead and jumped out the window. Got the tmobile and got it unlocked and rooted. So far everything is working amazing. Lte at 15 mb but I think its bcz of the area. I was scared that I would be getting ****ty service but this is working out better than I thought. I am at 3 to 4 bars all the time. Havent seen it drop yet. I originally bought it retail price so it makes sense for me to do this.
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Hello everyone,
I'm new here,
Starting this thread so that beginners and new users (like me) can know about what people have done with their monsters and what they are capable of!
Tell me about your favorite top 10 apps and must haves!
Reason for choosing Droid 3?
I'd also like to know if some serious droidians can provide links on how to achieve what they have!
Would also like if they can tell users like me what should be done with their Droid 3 if they just took it out of the box!
I have a Motorola Droid 3 Verizon [XT862 (its obvious but still)],
5.6.890.xt862.verizon.en.us (I think its stock rom, but I could be wrong)
Using it in India.
And thats all I know about it.
Its not even rooted.
My reason for choosing Droid 3:
I wanted something solid, which felt like a monster in my hand, not like the new phones being thin and light as a paper, I needed something heavy! The large screen, 8 mp cam, 16+16 Gb memory are just add-ons to the list,
the main reason being the 5 row physical keyboard. I did not find any other phone with k/b with such screen and cam. And Motorola is well known for being modded and customized!
Share anything and everything you can, it is always helpful to someone!
Tell us about different processes of flashing, about roms, latest updates and so on.
Very excited to hear from y'all!
Hope. to get some really interesting and helpful posts!
Don't forget to have fun while doing this and help as many people as you can
Thanks a lot.
Really?
Really guys,
no one?
I was hoping to get some really good feedback!
Kinda old phone! I got it because i wanted the original but went with the Droid Incredible for processor. So I saw the droid 3 and it looked just as good.
Phone is end of life. These discussions have been had many times before. People are waiting to upgrade to a better phone.
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Droid Incredible?
Isn't it a cdma phone? With 1Ghz processor?
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Oh, I see.
But buddy, this discussion is not only about the features of the phone but more about what can one do or should do if they just got it.
This phone is not available at the place I'm using it. Specs are incredible, except for the software update.
I do not see a single phone with a keyboard like this with such a screen over here.
Even though it is an old phone, I got it regardless of its lousy software update.
And therefore I wanted to know, what people are doing with their droid3 regarding software?
I wanted to know which rom are they using and what apps are must haves!
Thats all.
Thank you all for reading.
Rom toolbox, safestrap3, thats all i recommend for must have apps.
Run stock for a while, and then put on safestrap and see what roms you like.
You can also use the ubuntu install app in the market if you want a linux distribution, worked ok on my droid3.
If you like at&t or tmobile, use the radio hack to skip verizon.
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Okay so for your info: safestrap 3.0, Mavrom 4.5 on .906 base. Waiting for May for new phone upgrade!
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I just scored a d4 off ebay will be here in 7-13 days lol oh well..lest I can keep my unlimited data and cost less then doing the upgrade lol
ill still be here in the d3 forums though as my wife has a d3 so I keep it current plus I love you guys..
Right back at ya!
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We do too!!
And guys, can any one of you confirm if I flash with any rom, would it affect my unlock?
Using it overseas.
Thanks a lot guys.
Allan Guigan said:
We do too!!
And guys, can any one of you confirm if I flash with any rom, would it affect my unlock?
Using it overseas.
Thanks a lot guys.
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you shouldn't loose unlock but if the rom wasn't dev'd for your specific device..ie..xt862,xt860 ect you might have to flash the proper radio and build prop
yesterday someone made me an offer on my Inspire, so I decided to get summen new.
Was like why not seeing that the person actually seemed like they wanted to Inspire more than I did.
So decided to choose summen in the HTC line that was comparable in price.
So what are you guys feedback about the phone, did I make a good choice
NB I did say for way i can afford now.
thanks
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I love my Vivid. It was pretty good out of the box but after Rooting and installing a ROM of your choice it makes it so much better. Improved battery life, faster speeds, and more options as far as tweaks. Personally, I'm using WCX's rom but there are plenty of others out there floating around that are great. All have positives and negatives just need to find the one that fits you. If you can snag a One X that would be better but the Vivid is just as good. We just don't have a fully functioning Jellybean Rom yet but I don't think we are missing much.
thanks man, what I will do is test it first then root it,. I'll give the WCX rom a try seeing that you were the first one to response and offer some advice.
I was looking at a One X but was $100 or so more than what I paid for the Vivid.
I've been reading some threads where persons were wondering if Vivid would get an official JB update, but from what I gather the roms for this phone would do great,
thanks
G
Just be careful and read a lot before you dive into installing roms. This phone is a little more complicated then some of the other more open phones like the SGS III or Nexus. If you need any help just ask on the board. Plenty of knowledgeable people here to help you from bricking your phone. I'm not trying to scare you but if you don't follow directions it could lead to issues. Again its not hard to root and install a rom but things have to be done in a certain order.
thanks man appreciate it
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It's a good phone and I you loved your inspire and sense, you'll love the vivid. It's a great stock phone, kinda weak on the development side, but a few guys around here are looking to fix that pretty close to a fully working cm10. Until then, definitely unlock your bootloader and root and put wcx's rom on, it is the best out of box experience hands down. In a nutshell our stock ics rom is a bit quirky, buggy, and laggy at times and battery life flat out sucks. Wcx's rom focuses on fixing all that. It's not all that fancy but he gives you the firmware this phone should of had from the factory!
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That sounds real great kind of trying not to get too over excited about it. Well want it to come.
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Got the vivid yesterday and so far so good. Running ICS very fast phone I must say, smooth operation.
I want to root it just wonderit if I should wait a while before doing so?
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Well I will warn you 2 things about rooting this phone. First is the locked bootloader. You can unlock it but it's going to wipe everything. Your internal sd will be fine but you're phone will appear to be straight out of the box, you'll have to install your apps again, you'll loose all game save data, and you'll have to reconfigure your home screen.
Secondly your warranty is effectively void. If you relock your bootloader it'll say "relocked" in your bootloader menu. Only way to make it say locked again is to s-off and the process requires removing a screw with a void sticker.
So do so at your own risk. Just thought I'd give you a head up
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Thanks for the heads up.
Your second point I don't mind much as I'm not in the US anyway therefore not using at&t or some provider like that.
I don't mind the reconfiguration as well. Is there anything major you can think about that might affect the phone in any negative way?
And how would you suggest I root it?
Thanks
G
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Nah nothing major, it's hard to brick this thing. Only thing I know for sure that'll brick it is flashing radios. But as far as rooting its pretty straight forward. Also if it doesn't have ics on it, update it first. It been a while since I rooted but their is a whole tutorial on it.
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positiveg said:
Thanks for the heads up.
Your second point I don't mind much as I'm not in the US anyway therefore not using at&t or some provider like that.
I don't mind the reconfiguration as well. Is there anything major you can think about that might affect the phone in any negative way?
And how would you suggest I root it?
Thanks
G
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no. nothing. and after you've root, etc., then flash the PACman ROM in the DEV section. jelly bean rom, amazingly smooth, and almost all bugs except bluetooth are worked out
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tut for rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416836
Yea..once you're unlocked, you'll need to flash custom recovery. Once you have that, you can just flash an already rooted ROM.
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Cool thanks for the advice guys I will take a look and go from there.
What is he best method you'd say is to use to root this phone
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I'm coming from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I was going to wait for the Nexus 5--but everything points to it not being available on Verizon. So...
I enjoy ROM hackery and all that. I don't like the idea of safe strapping specifically because I have to lose available data space. Not even that, but I've heard safestrapping in general is tricky. My brother used to have a Bionic. He safestrapped--he said it was awful the hoops and hurdles he had to get through to use a custom ROM. Luckily, I plan on using the Stock software while using Xposed Framework to be able to customize the things I need. I plan on rooting.
However, I'm going to miss some stuff. To my knowledge, you can't have custom kernels on safestrapped devices (feel free to correct me). I like that since the GNexus had custom kernels and tweaks out the wazzoo, I was able to change the gamma values for the screen to make it look even nicer. I like the GNexus screen. However, I went to the Verizon store today and played around with the MotoX--I enjoy the screen, I love the feel of the phone, it looks great--super fast also. I don't know what to do. I'm looking for some opinions, even if they are biased. Maybe that's what I need.
So.... what do?
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I'm coming from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I was going to wait for the Nexus 5--but everything points to it not being available on Verizon. So...
I enjoy ROM hackery and all that. I don't like the idea of safe strapping specifically because I have to lose available data space. Not even that, but I've heard safestrapping in general is tricky. My brother used to have a Bionic. He safestrapped--he said it was awful the hoops and hurdles he had to get through to use a custom ROM. Luckily, I plan on using the Stock software while using Xposed Framework to be able to customize the things I need. I plan on rooting.
However, I'm going to miss some stuff. To my knowledge, you can't have custom kernels on safestrapped devices (feel free to correct me). I like that since the GNexus had custom kernels and tweaks out the wazzoo, I was able to change the gamma values for the screen to make it look even nicer. I like the GNexus screen. However, I went to the Verizon store today and played around with the MotoX--I enjoy the screen, I love the feel of the phone, it looks great--super fast also. I don't know what to do. I'm looking for some opinions, even if they are biased. Maybe that's what I need.
So.... what do?
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If you get the Dev edition you can unlock the boot loader and flash when things become available. If you get the vzw version there is a chance you'll get it before the ota and you can root. If its updated, root isn't available.
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If you get the Dev edition you can unlock the boot loader and flash when things become available. If you get the vzw version there is a chance you'll get it before the ota and you can root. If its updated, root isn't available.
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But the dev edition is crazy expensive.
kernels are for the most part a no go, on that note once safestrap gets better it is quite easy to use and looks like there will be decent development soon. it wont be anything like the nexus line but even stock with xposed framework mods you can totally customize an already great phone !
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kernels are for the most part a no go, on that note once safestrap gets better it is quite easy to use and looks like there will be decent development soon. it wont be anything like the nexus line but even stock with xposed framework mods you can totally customize an already great phone !
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Will we ever be able to adjust kernel parameters though? Maybe? If I got a dev edition would kernels be plausible?
you can play with the kernel play with speeds and change governor and shceduler probly more im not sure. anything is plausable on a developer edition as long as someone develops for it.
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you can play with the kernel play with speeds and change governor and shceduler probly more im not sure. anything is plausable on a developer edition as long as someone develops for it.
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But what about the non-dev version? Would we be able to change kernel stuff too? I can't afford the Dev edition unfortunately.
Here my experience.
I came from an sgs3, before that I had the sgs2, HTC vivid and infuse... With each one I was a flashaholic, I enjoyed tweaking with the phones, rooting, flashing custom roms, building my own... Both stock based and cm.
I was a little concerned about the locked bl on the moto x. But, I quickly came to realize that this phone was damn near perfect right out of the box, basically what I have tried to achieve on all my other devices, yet failing to do so. Yes, there are a few things I miss, but it pales in comparison to having a phone that I trust to "just simply work" but it doesn't "just simply work" it "fu**ing works brilliantly"
I can now say that I do not miss flashing Roms and kernels, I don't miss backing up and restoring data through nandroids every other day, I don't miss soft bricks and bootloops, I don't miss flashing cm/aosp and breaking functionality... Simply put, i don't miss feeling like I need to consistently flash to have an enjoyable experience. I have found a new enjoyment... Having a phone that is innovative, reliably and comfortable, that works as intended... The battery life is amazing, I don't think I could live without active notifications now and always listening and the accuracy of voice recognition makes hands free use actually enjoyable and practical, every other past phone just made hands free a headache and stress inducing.
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Sry the first part of that statement was about the consumer edition lol. You can change some stuff with the kernel but I usually don't mess with that to much. The phone is smooth as hell and just needs minor visual tweeks IMO.
theraffman said:
Here my experience.
I came from an sgs3, before that I had the sgs2, HTC vivid and infuse... With each one I was a flashaholic, I enjoyed tweaking with the phones, rooting, flashing custom roms, building my own... Both stock based and cm.
I was a little concerned about the locked bl on the moto x. But, I quickly came to realize that this phone was damn near perfect right out of the box, basically what I have tried to achieve on all my other devices, yet failing to do so. Yes, there are a few things I miss, but it pales in comparison to having a phone that I trust to "just simply work" but it doesn't "just simply work" it "fu**ing works brilliantly"
I can now say that I do not miss flashing Roms and kernels, I don't miss backing up and restoring data through nandroids every other day, I don't miss soft bricks and bootloops, I don't miss flashing cm/aosp and breaking functionality... Simply put, i don't miss feeling like I need to consistently flash to have an enjoyable experience. I have found a new enjoyment... Having a phone that is innovative, reliably and comfortable, that works as intended... The battery life is amazing, I don't think I could live without active notifications now and always listening and the accuracy of voice recognition makes hands free use actually enjoyable and practical, every other past phone just made hands free a headache and stress inducing.
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Sry the first part of that statement was about the consumer edition lol. You can change some stuff with the kernel but I usually don't mess with that to much. The phone is smooth as hell and just needs minor visual tweeks IMO.
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I figured it was.
That's what I've heard. It sounds incredible. The only thing I'm going to need to change is the Quick Settings. I also really need quick replies from the SMS app--I don't think there is anyway to get those. :|
I was in the same situation and I decided to switch to AT&T for the moto x. If the Nexus 5 is sweet i can just sell the moto x and buy it off contract...
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yes in safestrap..hashcode has kexec tools built in. but the kernel will have to have kexec patches to boot with Safestrap. i know Hashcode is planning on working on that for the consumer version
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What I'd do if I were you is buy a 5s with my upgrade . sell it and get Dev edition
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natezire71 said:
I figured it was.
That's what I've heard. It sounds incredible. The only thing I'm going to need to change is the Quick Settings. I also really need quick replies from the SMS app--I don't think there is anyway to get those. :|
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Slide messaging can do it unrooted
Rooted you can replace stock messaging with cyanogen messaging
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What I'd do if I were you is buy a 5s with my upgrade . sell it and get Dev edition
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Oh **** that's smart. That's REALLY smart. I was thinking maybe get a G2 and sell it.
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Rooted you can replace stock messaging with cyanogen messaging
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Oh yeah. Duh... Lol.
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Oh **** that's smart. That's REALLY smart. I was thinking maybe get a G2 and sell it.
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yeah if you are trying to effectively sell your upgrade, its almost always best to get an apple product.
i mean if you got a gold one right now who knows you could probably do pretty well.
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yeah if you are trying to effectively sell your upgrade, its almost always best to get an apple product.
i mean if you got a gold one right now who knows you could probably do pretty well.
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The thing is, I didn't want to spend $200 or whatever the 5s costs. I wanted to spend $100 on Amazon for the upgrade to the Moto X. However, if I paid $20 more, I could get a G2.
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The thing is, I didn't want to spend $200 or whatever the 5s costs. I wanted to spend $100 on Amazon for the upgrade to the Moto X. However, if I paid $20 more, I could get a G2.
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valid point.
but i think you'll get more for a iphone.
and i think the market for itis bigger . i mean if the G2 costs $80 less, but someone pays you $100 more for the iphone.. i tend to like doign the iphone route, just because theres so many "THE HOTTEST ANDROID" phone that they drop in price fast. with the iphone if you are slow to sell it, you arent gonna immediately lose value.
if you can upgrade using verizonwireless.com you acn do the VERIZON30 code on say the note 3 and get 30% off. dont know if that works on iphone. and then sell the note 3 possibly is another idea.
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yeah if you are trying to effectively sell your upgrade, its almost always best to get an apple product.
i mean if you got a gold one right now who knows you could probably do pretty well.
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This and also do everything you can to keep them from even opening the box the phone it in, with the plastic still on it it's worth more
I'm to the point where I don't care about Samsung warranty no more. I have a custom recovery that's Clock Work Mod tar file. Odin won't flash is there another way I can do this? Like I said I'm ready to move onto overclocking and such. And could care less about warranty. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! The recovery I have says for the SM-N900A.
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I'm to the point where I don't care about Samsung warranty no more. I have a custom recovery that's Clock Work Mod tar file. Odin won't flash is there another way I can do this? Like I said I'm ready to move onto overclocking and such. And could care less about warranty. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! The recovery I have says for the SM-N900A.
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impossible at the moment unless you want a nice paper weight..... wait it out.....
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impossible at the moment unless you want a nice paper weight..... wait it out.....
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I was thinking the same thing with the locked bootloader. Figured it was worth a shot asking since I had found that zip file. I though maybe someone had found a way to do it. Thanks for the response!
So now I am confused. I thought even with the locked bootloader we could flash ROMS at the loss of warranty due to KNOX tripping. I was under the impression the only reason no one was flashing was due to KNOX and the fact it would void your warranty.
So if one does not care about warranty or tripping KNOX, is there still no way to flash other than SS?
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So now I am confused. I thought even with the locked bootloader we could flash ROMS at the loss of warranty due to KNOX tripping. I was under the impression the only reason no one was flashing was due to KNOX and the fact it
So if one does not care about warranty or tripping KNOX, is there still no way to flash other than SS?
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So now I am confused. I thought even with the locked bootloader we could flash ROMS at the loss of warranty due to KNOX tripping. I was under the impression the only reason no one was flashing was due to KNOX and the fact it would void your warranty.
So if one does not care about warranty or tripping KNOX, is there still no way to flash other than SS?
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It does suck. You can flash with SS Rdlv etc. Without tripping Knox. You just can't ever be able to flash custom kernels so add to have all the extra functions. Overclocking etc. I really hate my AT&T note 3 it sucks!
alwayslookingforanswers said:
It does suck. You can flash with SS Rdlv etc. Without tripping Knox. You just can't ever be able to flash custom kernels so add to have all the extra functions. Overclocking etc. I really hate my AT&T note 3 it sucks!
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People are making a huge fuss over this whole locked bootloader ordeal. At first, I was too. But at this point, there isn't anything you can do about it and we just have to suck it up. With SafeStrap and Xposed Framework modules, and debloating apps, there is so much we can still do to TouchWiz.
Wanam Xposed mod used on the Note 3 and a simple free launcher from the Play Store can very easily modify most of what people want on a phone.
People need to start taking advantage of these things and modifying their phone the way they want. We can't get 100% customization like we want but why not take the 90% (or whatever you can get) Most people are unaware you can do some of this. The only huge thing we can't do is flash a kernel that may add battery life and some hardware improvements, but at least it's something. Using BetterBatteryStats to find our Wakelocks and using Root to fix those - that's a great alternative.
Checkout these threads to help:
Xposed Framework
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383484
Other Framework Mods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327541
BetterBatteryStats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
FourPointedFreak said:
People are making a huge fuss over this whole locked bootloader ordeal. At first, I was too. But at this point, there isn't anything you can do about it and we just have to suck it up. With SafeStrap and Xposed Framework modules, and debloating apps, there is so much we can still do to TouchWiz.
Wanam Xposed mod used on the Note 3 and a simple free launcher from the Play Store can very easily modify most of what people want on a phone.
People need to start taking advantage of these things and modifying their phone the way they want. We can't get 100% customization like we want but why not take the 90% (or whatever you can get) Most people are unaware you can do some of this. The only huge thing we can't do is flash a kernel that may add battery life and some hardware improvements, but at least it's something. Using BetterBatteryStats to find our Wakelocks and using Root to fix those - that's a great alternative.
Checkout these threads to help:
Xposed Framework
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383484
Other Framework Mods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327541
BetterBatteryStats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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That's one of the reasons I have like my Android system. The 100% of the functionsib used to have. I made a mistake by just jumping in and buying this device without thinking of what the future may hold. I'd is had been smart I would of waited a little too see what was going to happen. I should of went with the T - mobile platform and then all would have been good. It's like buying a Corvette and being able to just put a performance exhaust on it but can't do nothing else to it. No one's fault but my own. I won't make the same mistake again. Yeah I'm using SS. And can flash 5 different roms one after another. And exposed framework, to me that's about as boring as you can get. If that's enough for you then so be it but to me is not enough.
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That's one of the reasons I have like my Android system. The 100% of the functionsib used to have. I made a mistake by just jumping in and buying this device without thinking of what the future may hold. I'd is had been smart I would of waited a little too see what was going to happen. I should of went with the T - mobile platform and then all would have been good. It's like buying a Corvette and being able to just put a performance exhaust on it but can't do nothing else to it. No one's fault but my own. I won't make the same mistake again. Yeah I'm using SS. And can flash 5 different roms one after another. And exposed framework, to me that's about as boring as you can get. If that's enough for you then so be it but to me is not enough.
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lol it's not that bad. Hopefully you get what you're looking for.
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lol it's not that bad. Hopefully you get what you're looking for.
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Lol no I know not that terrible. Just really letting my frustrations out about AT&T. It's shameful I've been with them for ten years. And they have the best service out there. But I do think I'm going to have to go to T mobile when the Note 4 comes out. I feel like I'm handcuffed with one hand behind my back. I have no right to complain really about anything. I've been very blessed recently in life and there is lots of people in this world that have nothing. So your right no reason to *****. Thanks for making me realize that one.
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Lol no I know not that terrible. Just really letting my frustrations out about AT&T. It's shameful I've been with them for ten years. And they have the best service out there. But I do think I'm going to have to go to T mobile when the Note 4 comes out. I feel like I'm handcuffed with one hand behind my back. I have no right to complain really about anything. I've been very blessed recently in life and there is lots of people in this world that have nothing. So your right no reason to *****. Thanks for making me realize that one.
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Hey, I hear ya. I wish we had the option of custom recovery for our Note 3's and I've been with AT&T a long time but they're making it hard to support them now.
Hello all. First off, congratulations on being the proud owners of this "DOPE'TASTIC" device.
I was hoping that this request would be heard by the sites MOD's and possibly even implemented.
But I was hoping that maybe someone would be so kind as to start a Canadian Carrier thread? Sprint, AT&T, T-mo all have their own and from what I have heard they all (or most) have locked boot loaders (may be horribly wrong on that, please don't crucify me). But perhaps in the goodness of the sites MOD's hearts they would consider my request. Just got this device today, AM SUPER EXCITED TO GET TWEEKING. But admittedly the many variants of the device have... complicated the research process.
Anyone agree with me???
Also, the software update which has been prompted from the point I turned this thing on. Should that be avoided allowing to begin? I bought this last night, and unfortunately am working today so I do not have the time to research that I usually would right out of the gate. Any input would be GREATLY APPRECIATED.
There is already a "Note 4 - Canadian Thread" that has a lot of information.
Ohhh, well then. Mod's please delete this thread. My apologies. :-/
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Umm where is the Canadian Note 4 thread. I get a 404 error \
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note-4-canadian-thread-t2891613/post57117489
Dingchow said:
Umm where is the Canadian Note 4 thread. I get a 404 error \
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note-4-canadian-thread-t2891613/post57117489
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Ummm what the.. What happened to the Canadian thread? says it was deleted why?
celkin said:
Ohhh, well then. Mod's please delete this thread. My apologies. :-/
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Well since our thread has disappeared without explanation (being a bastard child in every galaxy) , just to answer few of yours.
Don't worry about first boot update. Allow it. It will not hamper rooting or modding. You will trip Knox.
Basically tmobile model is closest to ours, so let that be your guide, although there are some Canadian specifics that should be followed. Roms in tmobile section have Canadian instructions if they're made with us in mind in adition to tmobile.
The rest is up to you to read.
Euro firmwares are compatible as well, but more reading and specific rules to be followed are a must.
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Nice! Thats exactly what I needed to know. Most devices ive used in the last 2 years were AT&T varients. Therefore i was surprised when I realized Note4 was not. Note 1+2 through Rogers were, as was the S4. So was surprised to see this is not.
Thanks for the starting point, especially with the firmware update. With Note 2 (if i remember correctly) if you accepted the initial FW update you were in trouble.
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Even for s4, starting from kernel, our model was more similar to tmobile. It just happened that att had Devs that supported us more, and was root able at the beginning.
Now, due to bootloader, they don't even deserve a thread, yet they got a section. A ghost town.
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Idan73 said:
Even for s4, starting from kernel, our model was more similar to tmobile. It just happened that att had Devs that supported us more, and was root able at the beginning.
Now, due to bootloader, they don't even deserve a thread, yet they got a section. A ghost town.
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lol, Yeah I noticed that. Its... The way it is I guess...
Was BLOWN AWAY buy how many variants are out there on Note 4. Was a little over whelming on the first day reading through all the forums. I really do feel that there are enough people with Canadian devises to warrant a device specific thread however. But at the very least the T-mo thread seems to cater to Canadians pretty well. iB4sTiD is in there, a name i know WELL from the AT&T S4 forums, Actually I am SUPER excited to see him working for Note4. REally solid guy, and he always builds both American and Canadian roms.
To be honest I'm little disillusioned with the custom tw rom scene. So for a while I'm keeping it stock, with my own slim down, and xposed.
See no reason to load custom rom at this time as they are basically doing what I can do for myself without someone else deciding.
Good old times when patches and hacks and customization is done on framework itself (xposed does impact performance, compared to stock, no matter what. I live with it and am happy that it's there, but it's a fact) with jkay, etc. Now custom roms are slim with xposed, which I basically explained above.
Even custom kernels are making me lose more in features than I gain in performance.
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I believe we require an explanation of why our thread was deleted. There was lots of information pertaining to "our" note 4.
would just like to know at least why? our thread have been deleted too....
Guess you can message mods for answer.
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Idan73 said:
To be honest I'm little disillusioned with the custom tw rom scene. So for a while I'm keeping it stock, with my own slim down, and xposed.
See no reason to load custom rom at this time as they are basically doing what I can do for myself without someone else deciding.
Good old times when patches and hacks and customization is done on framework itself (xposed does impact performance, compared to stock, no matter what. I live with it and am happy that it's there, but it's a fact) with jkay, etc. Now custom roms are slim with xposed, which I basically explained above.
Even custom kernels are making me lose more in features than I gain in performance.
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I think after doing a crapload of reading that i understand what you are saying. Honestly i used to HATE touchwiz but it seems so smooth and fast on this phone that it almost feels right?
I never in my life thought I would say that I would like A TW ROM... But, it appears to work with this phone and with exposed being what it is...
Strange feeling, not immediately flashing a custom build...
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Why the hell did the Canadian thread get deleted.....FFS!
@celkin please note you either have to use option in wanam module, or do a build prop edit to get rid of extreme lag once you install xposed first time.
Important note. Never turn on secure boot in security if you're loading custom recovery in the future.
Explanation to the rest. @celkin asked which modules I'm using, but couldn't post Screenshots in pm.
Thanks man. I have noticed wynham is... Strange. Thanks for the tip
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Has anyone figured out a way to get XNote or other custom roms working on our Canadian Note 4's?
Always get a baseband/sim error....love that rom!!
faultlog said:
Has anyone figured out a way to get XNote or other custom roms working on our Canadian Note 4's?
Always get a baseband/sim error....love that rom!!
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It will install but no one has been able to get baseband to work.
I have message the forum mods for this section (KennyG123;jcase;oka1;jayharper08;DutchDogg54) and asked for it to be restored.
My bad guys.. I was deleting something else and the thread (earlier marked for subscription) got deleted inadvertently.
Its live now : http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note-4-canadian-thread-t2891613
I am closing this one.
Thanks
PG101